Thread for all vegans and people interested in the vegan lifestyle. Meateaters and vegetarians allowed as long as they don't push their morally unacceptable ideology. Only CIVIL discussions are allowed.
FAQ:
>Are there things you absolutely cannot get on a vegan diet?
No.
>Does it really make a difference for the environment once I stop eating meat?
Yes, watch Earthlings if you do not believe it.
>Is veganism better for my health?
Yes, watch What The Health for more information.
Other urls found in this thread:
youtube.com
healthline.com
en.wikipedia.org
ourworldindata.org
circ.ahajournals.org
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
roguehealthandfitness.com
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I'm a vegetarian of 15-20 years, I'll try transitioning slowly.
I'll still eat cheese once, when having pizza or pasta, but otherwise I don't really enjoy cheese anymore, and milk I can also live without.
Meanwhile, I love all legumes.
Sorry but why do you still continue to eat cheese even though you claim to understand the reasons behind veganism?
Lamb shanks are tasty desu
Taste is a bad argument to justify eating poisonous food (aka meat).
The same reason you're using a modem/phone with unethically sourced materials in it, made by children in China.
We all have our standards on how unethical we can allow ourselves to be based on our convenience.
It helps that I'm from a country where there's virtually no factory farming.
Fuck almond "milk".
Why don't you use a chart that doesn't cherry-pick so hard?
Your example is retarded and you know it. You are forced to use a phone in the modern world but you are never ever forced to eat diary or need to eat diary. There is literally no reason to do so.
Please educate yourself about the horrors of the diary industry before continuing to eat/drink diary products.
Thank you.
You are free to prove it wrong if you want (and can) but there are millions of other reasons to go vegan.
i mean, he did say he's going to try to transition slowly, no need to be a dick to him. and at the end of the day he's right though about convenience. it's why you see more vegans in places where more types of food are available, it's easier to consider the ethical impact of your actions if it won't cause as much of an impact on your life/routine.
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>you are forced to use a phone
are you autistic my man?
Seconding this. And don't bother posting any """vegan""" roiders to prove you are anything but a DYEL, OP.
Sorry but not sorry. I will not tolerate people who claim to have understood the reasons for veganism but still participate in the torture and murdering of animals.
Plants are the most cool beings in nature, I prefer to eat these shitty animals
Fuck vegans
Shill your starvation diet somewhere else.
Another shit vegan thread. Watch as OP will post nothing other than pic related.
dayum, anyone got his forehead workout?
how do I ban you from this forum?
Vegans play directly into the production of similis and supplements feeding pollution like no other.
Dont go vegan. Just consume less.
is bread healthy
Funny, the countries on the right also have another thing in common, they are all dyel manlets and the countries on the left breed tall/strong men. Kinda like how women live longer cause of their low test.
It is better to live one day as a lion than 100 years as a lamb
Nice stats. Here's something I found on my own.
Veganism is cool, but this is the shittiest documentary people use to prove it. Dont ever recommend that to anyone intelligent or they will (understandably) dismiss the entire idea. Theres so much flawed in that film, I hear Forks and Knives is better
Laos is borderline third world whatdya expect
Vegan's not to use fabricated stats? I forgot they are mentally ill though.
What if i eat a whole foods plant based diet but im minimally concerned about animal welfare?
France, Australia, Switzerland and Israel, 4 out of the top 5 countries with the lowest rates of heart disease have relatively high meat consumption per capita.
India, the country with the second lowest meat consumption per capita, almost 1/30 of Australia, has a rate of heart disease that is higher than the world wide average and also gone up by 14% since 1990 while meat consumption has stayed almost constant.
healthline.com
en.wikipedia.org
ourworldindata.org
circ.ahajournals.org
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Alright Ive been trying to go vegetarian for a year now. Moved out on my own. Im ready. Reading all these infographics. Any tips on someone pretty serious about the change?
>Meateaters and vegetarians allowed as long as they don't push their morally unacceptable ideology
Vegans and vegetarians are the same shit. They don't eat meat...duh!
Favourite vegan protein powders?
I completely expected shit flinging in this thread and I'm still upset there's so much of it
Stop buying animal products and adapt to the change, you could try phasing out certain items at a time as well to wean yourself off
Some may argue this is no good because using ANY animal products is evil so you should cease using any immediately but this is very unfeasible for many, so it may be easier to climb down the stairs rather than leap and hope for the best. Maybe it would work for you though so hey
>rape cow?
>pus cells
Retarded pictures like this are making it really hard to like or agree with vegans
I’ve been a vegan for a while now and have made some pretty good gains. I put on about 20lbs in roughly a year and 3 months and have cut ~2% of my body fat in the process.
Lentils are great. 1 cup is like 50 grams of protein. Eat them with brown rice to meet this amino acid requirements for a complete protein.
Beans are your friend. They can make you fart but black beans and garbanzos have god-tier protein levels.
Try to avoid processed onions, like tofu or onions milk or onions protein. Instead, try to find some good pea protein if you’re into protein powder.
Oats and peanut butter in smoothies are great for bulking, and tasty when you add a frozen banana and some protein powder.
Don’t neglect your veggies at all. Even though your diet will be 100% plants, you still need all the nutrients you can get. Spinach, kale, carrots, lettuce, beets, potatoes, corn, avocados, you name it are all super important because of their vitamin content.
Supplement b12. You can’t get everything from a vegan diet.
If you’re concerned about calcium intake for them strong bones and musclular contractions drink almond milk. It has way more calcium than dairy milk.
Invest in a good blender because smoothies are a good way to get everything you need. If you don’t have the money or don’t like smoothies, just try to eat a diverse amount of food.
Fruit is fucking great. It doesn’t fuck with your blood sugar (am diabetic I would know this) and doesn’t make you fat. I eat a big bowl of fruit along with my breakfast before a workout. Helps with any cramping and gives you plenty of energy.
Nuts are a great source of omega 3’s, protein and fat.
Cook with olive oil.
Hope that helped
what if they like it?
vegan here for almost a year, was vegetarian for 10 years before than slowly transitioning.
the animal rights portion of the movement is cool and all, but I really did it for health. I've never been more healthy and have always focused hard on cardio, but in the past 6 months iv'e picked up weight lifting and have made great gains. it's an amazing life style and I can't wait in a year or two and see how far my body has come with my new weight lifting regimen.
anyone curious about a vegan diet, I implore you to try it out, even for a little while. you'll blow people out of the water in the gym with your fast recovery and your body will all around feel great.
I'm glad it's becoming more mainstream to post vegan content on Jow Forums. a few years ago you would never see a thread like this one. been vegan 5 years at this point!
who cares about animals
faggots
Whats a good vegan lunch? I googled vegan sandwiches and got dissapointed very quickly
Am I going to be eating pasta forever
Also is it true that a vegan diet gives you way too much carbs?
There are tons of veggie deli meats if that’s what you want, or just make a vegetable sandwich.
Carbs are a good thing, they are your body’s go to when it comes to energy so you can be more effective in the gym. Keto-cucks will lose 10lbs of water weight and do 1 set of bench press and think their diet is the best.
Soups? Salads? Leftovers from a vegan based dinner?
There's lots of options outside sandwiches.
This video is full of breatharian nut jobs and people with eating disorders. One of the dudes including was fasting on his own urine for quite some time.
I remember that time I ate one single atom of cooked meat and was immediately rushed to the hospital for a severe aorta rupture.
This has to be bait, created for some retard to repost and get called out for posting an incorrect photo. I am not saying black beans aren't healthier but the serving sizes/macros are all fucked up.
He even included people who are quite open about the fact that they're recovering from an eating disorder on their channels.
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>France, Australia, Switzerland and Israel, 4 out of 5 top countries have the lowest rates of heart disease
No actual data given, but the article you cite also makes a point of the many US states with high saturated fat diets and resulting high rates of heart disease. France has been studied a lot due to the "french paradox" which has been found to be due to a few misleading factors, including misreporting by french physicians and the time difference between when the French began eating more fat and the amount of time it takes for heart disease to develop.
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
This could apply to the other countries as well.
>India, the country with the second lowest meat consumption per capita, almost 1/30 of Australia, has a rate of heart disease that is higher than the world wide average
As your link says, smoking rates have increased and fruit and vegetable intakes have decreased. Indians eat tons of dairy fat and refined carbs. The fact that they prefer dairy to meat and still are unhealthy isn't much of an argument to eat meat.
this
so is this new shitposting general?
No. This thread is for discussion on a plant based vegan diet.
>feed cow antibiotics to treat infections
>boil milk to kill blood, shit and pus
What is the problem here? Do you want the cows to be infected? Do you want shit blood and pus in milk?
Lmao you roasted that dude
what sort of diet plan do you have to maintain atleast 2500+ a day?
347 suck dicks per day
grow up
Fuck off and die a horrible death you vegan faggots. In my homeland,we murdered tons of vegan kids by stabbing and shooting them. We eliminated entire families by burning them all alive. You all MUST die
The gluten in the bread is unhealthy cause can't digest it
Have fun cooking those 4 ounces of beans and then being full after 120 kcals
How can a vegan be actually active at a healthy weight and consume 3000-4000 kcals a day without having 80% of his diet be dairy?
Retarded starvation diet
Avacados along with nuts and seeds are great for a calorie boost, but I usually make a post-workout shake that is like 700-900 calories and eat a small meal with it. Bananas and other fruit in the shake.
Now do grams of protein per 100 grams of each
>heterocyclic amines
Braindead vegans see a big scary chemistry word and assume it's unhealthy
i think there are genuine benefits to veganism: it is good for the environment, is morally impressive, and it is possible to be healthy with a vegan diet. but what the health is one of the biggest pieces of shit ive ever seen. you are just hurting the cause by promoting that movie. its nothing but lies and propaganda, which only serves to make people like vegans less, and makes them ignore the genuine positive aspects of veganism.
Derek is 5'6 though, the other dudes are on gear
Why should I go vegan if there is benefit in eating meat and other animal products? I'm not gonna gimp myself because of some retarded animal's feelings.
My wellbeing takes precedent
Honestly? Nuts, seeds and nutbutters mostly. Bulkpowders has these amazing hazelnut and almond nutbutters with dark chocolate that taste like Nutella, so I use that to bulk up. Also avocados, shredded coconuts, tahini and the like. There are some very nutritious high caloric vegan foods, but they are also easily avoided, hence the diet is great for cutting but still good for bulking.
>Avocados
>Great caloric boost
>160kcal per 100g
>Expensive as hell
Why are vegans so dishonest?
>that pic
Roids aren't vegan and are far worse morally than anything you can say about meat consumption
Am i allowed to eat bugs on a vegan diet?
Based crack nigger skull poster
what are the unique properties found in animal products? ill wait
They taste really fucking good
Carnitine and various saturated fats. Good macros and easily digestible. Organ foods also have really good micronutrient profiles, containing pretty much everything we need in our own bodies since other animals are very similar to us on a molecular level.
hehe
Veganism is horrible for you and meat isn't actually
Because they're cultists. The have no facts, so everything has to boil down to a moral argument. Their morality is just a man made religion.
carnitine is derived from ordinary lysine and saturated fats raise serum cholesterol which in turn causes atherosclerosis. the rest of your post is so irretrievably retarded that i wont even bother with a retort
Hungary also consumes more alcohol and tobacco than the rest of the countries listed combined but I'm sure it's the meat bud
t. Hung Aryan
Sv3rige might be crazy but at least he has a healthier physique than any vegcuck (aside from steroid users). On the other hand, most people are more worthless than animals so they should be vegan
If you are vegan you are probably one of those people who subconsciously know you're more worthless than animals, so I support your decision to eat like a peasant
Those that are high IQ, honourable, high test, and a have a real mission in life know better than to have such a shitty diet
Just switch to using almond cheese, tastes pretty much the same (although normally has a different texture)
What a dumb picture
eating/drinking plant is retarded
Fuck veganism
now cook the beans and realize those 4oz became 12oz but the proteins are still 24g
also, eat lean cuts of meat, that reduces the cholesterol, te aidity and the calories to about 180cal
>carnitine is derived from ordinary lysine
Your body can synthesize carnitine out of lysine if you do not get it from your diet. This prevents you from getting severe carnitine deficency but you benefit from higher levels of carnitine, which you get only from animal products.
>and saturated fats raise serum cholesterol which in turn causes atherosclerosis
Fuck off with this outdated boomer science. You're literally an advocate of a fucking mom science myth that has been around since the 1960s. Cholesterol doesn't cause atherosclerosis, low density lipoprotein consumed in conjunction with high GI carbs cause atherosclerosis. Basically LDL lingers in your blood stream when your body primarily metabolizes simple carbs for energy and eventually form plaques. Take a look at this lecture regarding fat intake and atherosclerosis
youtube.com
>the rest of your post is so irretrievably retarded that i wont even bother with a retort
Nice argument you fucking mong. Organ meat is really nutrient dense and so is a very practical (and cheap) addition to anyone's diet.
>implying children matter as much as animals
It's the calcium that may lead to osteoporosis you dongleberry.
Also, the anti-biotics only apply to US and 3rd world produced milk, not the EU.
I just like meat to be honest.
your general fails because all you fucking do is post shitty comics and fall for bait. theres no actual useful info. you tell people WHY they should be vegan, but not HOW to be vegan
post recipes or even better MEAL PLANS
what do I eat that has
>5000+ calories
>covers all micro nutrients
>costs ~£15 a week
>is easy to prepare
>doesnt make me bloated from eating 2kg of fucking beans and lentils a day
because I can do all of this with beef. provide info faggot
How will vegays recover?
>Forced to use technology
Sorry m8 maybe you should go back to eating meat, your brain clearly isn't work at max
this.
it's morally unacceptable to eat a being literally responsible for sustaining all forms of life on earth
I eat the animals who eat them, those fuckers
think of me me as the plant avenger
Cows only produce milk during and shortly after pregnancy, so they artificially impregnate the cow, sell the calf off to a veal farm and take the milk
>watch What The Health
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btw pesco-vegetarians are proven to be healthier