Bulk up

>bulk up
>get strong and a bit swole
>too much fat on belly and chest though
>time to cut!
>look like a dyel barely starting out again

Natty lifting is a fucking joke

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Obviously you had no muscle from your half ass bulk and cut way too early

Possibly this, but I think when you cut you lose a lot of volume in your muscles because the muscle glycogen is depleted and glycogen binds 1 to 4 with water (this is where most of the water weight comes from) so you look even smaller

You're right. Natty lifting is a joke. Maintaining an autistic diet and exercise regiment + a simple test cycle gives 5x better results than without the test.

No I had muscle I just lost them in my cut.

basically I'm the same, except whenever I try to cut, I do a minicut for 2 weeks then immediately start "gotta eat big to get big"

pros: I look huge whenever I switch from mini cut to maintainence/small surplus

con: bodyfat is way too fucking high. I just want ab veins desu.

You actually have to lift while bulking, not just spend all of your time in a McDonald’s parking lot.

Cut until abs show then bulk

>Lift for two years
>Do a series of lean bulks and cuts ultimately gaining about ~7 kg total
>Lifts are all shit
>Look way better anyways
It's retarded slow compared to juicing, but it's better than nothing

You just cut like a retard. Cutting just means less sugar and more cardio.