This might be useful to some of you >be depressed and low energy for years >in and out of shitty low end jobs >live at my parents >skinny fat >low sex drive and confidence >got to doctor to get help. puts me on anti-depressants, they make me feel like a zombie and take away my ability to orgasm so I drop them, but then try a different one later because of how shit I feel with the same result >finally one day read about symptoms of low testosterone >they match me >go to doctor to ask him to test me for low testosterone >he won't do it and suggests a new (((anti-depressant))) >fuck that >order hormone test off the internet and go get my blood taken >get results >I'm in the low end of normal range >*"normal range" is that of all men, not men my age >my actual level is typical for a man in his 70s >decide to fix it >order testosterone online and start using it >within a short time start to notice dramatic changes >confidence through the roof, become a walking hardon >much more social >absolutely full of energy - hadn't planned to get Jow Forums but start going to gym and lifting and seeing results rapidly >get a new well paying job that I never would have even thought about applying for before >move out and finally feel that the future is bright for me
I don't know how typical my results are, but for me at least it really has been an absolute wonder drug. The above happened only over the course of a few months. Hopefully it might help someone else
I am wondering why low-T is so common these days. Is it something in the water? The food? Is it just the sedentary lifestyle? If so why are many people who work out still low T? How do we solve this besides getting test injections?
Leo Stewart
>t is 383 better than onions, worse than normal though, and about two times as much as you'd need to have to get prescribed testosterone. i've recently thought about just saying fuck it and eating raw onions til i have a man face.
Gabriel Perez
It's caused by fapping too much. You'll feel a big boost of testosterone around day 5-7 of no fap.
Camden Gray
Most "Low-T" is self diagnosed bullshit like OP's. If a guy actually has "Low-T" in his 20s, there is something medically wrong. But no... OP is sooo much smarter than a board certified MD who went to school for 8 years + residency because youtube.
Benjamin Stewart
>You'll feel a big boost of testosterone around day 5-7 of no fap.
yeah... then it disappears entirely.
Jaxson Gonzalez
yeah obviously you shouldn't fap for a while before testing your t if you're serious, also take the blood sample at 10 am in the morning when your t is at it's highest, but the doctor will probs insist on that anyway.
Ethan Young
>fan fiction nope Picture related, my results before I started taking it
>look up journals to see the range of what is normal for my age >it's well and truly outside that range But I'm the dr who didn't even run a test knows that I'm not low t
Camden Murphy
OP is a shill for testosterone supplement companies and / or InfoWars.
Michael Parker
Low Testosterone is a fucking crisis and its been planned by (((THEM))). Its a huge fucking crisis. Its shit in the water, food, sedentary lifestyle, and even cookingware, certain plastics contain shit that mess with our hormones go look it up. Plus you have the indoctrination, "toxic masculinity" etc etc. There is absolutely an effort to lower men's Testosterone. TRT is the real deal and helps bigtime. It's basically a lite form of steroids.
No you brainlet, TRT is actual steroids that work. It's not some herbal supplement that affects you minimally. Shoot 200mg of Test-E into yourself and you'll feel like a new man.
The situation is so bad, that the CDC actually had to lower the safe levels of normal testosterone. We're living in a fucking dystopia. Testosterone affects everything you do as a man. If we had normal T levels we would have already revolted by now.
Justin Green
it's not a lite form user. once you're on t you're on t forever.
Levi Cook
>liquor >overweight/obesity >sedentary lifestyle 24/7 with maximum 3 hours of exercise per day even with athletes >garbage food choices >garbage male role models so you can't make up for the lack of parents in children lives. >pleasure is so easy to get that working for it is actually just kind of stupid and the reward is bad compared to the easy pleasures >any athlete who is worth his weight is on some form of drug while also telling you not to do drugs, yet again making male role models hard to imitate do to their hypocrisy I could go on and on but its all rather pointless. The short of it is this, you are in charge of yourself and can't rely or find motivation in others. Some fag from Jow Forums is going to jump in on this like they always do but even Jow Forums is a shit can that you should avoid at all costs due to its self trolling culture and in general need for outside attention because it does not allow self recognition or growth to be acknowledged.
If you want to take testosterone or roids make sure you study up on it some but otherwise you have to begin to change your lifestyle so that you are more active if you want any T in your body.
Luke Wood
nah that's all fake shit. chads are way over 600 t dude. that mega russian chad has almost a thousand.
Bentley Howard
>mega russian chad what? Also of course most chads have alot of T they live athletic lifestyles for the majority of their life and then hit 20 and stop caring so they go from Chad to, fat chad, to 25 year old dad, to 30 year old "glory days" loser, and then they become one of the statistics for old men who kill themselves after they retire (which is where the majority of suicides occur).
>Order testosterone through reputable chinese drug company online >Get hooked on Fentanyl
Levi Hughes
>ordering test from china >getting hooked on opiod I want to ask you why before i jump on the train of kicking the shit out of you while you are down
Samuel Allen
No you're not brainlet. You can stop at anytime. Its just that most guys wont stop because they are getting normal, healthy levels of T that few men actually feel nowadays. Real levels of T that healthy men should have.
Josiah Lewis
So user what have you done physically up until this day? What is your current body weight and BMI, and how often do you exercise (no your walk to work or up stairs didnt count)
Asher Collins
>>he won't do it and suggests a new (((anti-depressant)))
Fucking this. What's up with those fucks never having problem to prescribe you new antidepressant but anything else, like for example ritalin is an obsolute no. Even when i used to have acne, dermatologist did not prescribe accutane no matter what and instead i have got some fucking ointment. Whole teenage and early twenties with acne on face. Fuck them.
Mason Howard
Did you read what I wrote? The range includes all men, so if you have a level that is normal for a 90 year old man you are classified as normal
Exactly, no one can achieve optimum levels of T. If you look at the decline of T its been on the decline for fucking years. This has absolutely been done by design.
I dont even blame most men for having low T, everything is stacked against us especially if you are White. Literally everything is designed to suppress your T levels. Every guy should be on TRT imo...every single dude.
Isaiah Collins
Those numbers are fucked too. All levels classified as normal are artificial and the real levels should be way higher, I would say even double of what is shown. The CDC lowered "healthy" levels.
John Richardson
I think the damage is already done for me. Poor nutrition + low test + sedentary lifestyle during puberty caused me to have an effeminate, twinky body with thin and narrow bones and severe gyno. I can't imagine anything would help now.
Jaxson Mitchell
i've always wondered what it would be like to suck on gyno tits. Are yours sensitive like a girls?
Lucas Jackson
>mac 2/10
Gavin Barnes
I expect you are right. Sperm counts are dropping massively, testosterone levels are dropping massively and all the coverage it ever gets is an occasional "isn't that curious?" article
Angel Davis
tfw going to get mine tested soon if that isn't the reason for my depression I've no idea what I'm going to do
Even in liberal college they talk about it so i have no idea how you have not known. The only thing that is curious is your ignorance on the subject
Blake Kelly
Linux you wincuck I lift weights three times a week (stronglifts 5x5) that's about all the exercise I get other than walking the dog. Haven't weighed myself in a while but the last time I did was about 75kg and 23.5 BMI
Ryder Perez
>its a novice bitching about his god damn T every fucking time
Aiden Gray
It's talked about, but generally as a curiousity rather than anything particularly significant
I didn't do this to get Jow Forums you faggot. The desire to get Jow Forums came afterwards. I did it because I have the fucking T levels of a 90 year old man
Oliver James
I'd rather not since I know that right now I have literally 0 T because I'm coming off cycle. I'll get the blood work done in a month from now just to see if its slowly reproducing.
Nathan Campbell
Jesus christ you took T to start a fucking novice program because you wanted motivation?
Wyatt Clark
>Jesus christ you took a medication to correct your levels to the normal range for your age what sort of freak are you?
Grayson Gonzalez
I can't imagine even trying to solve the problem, i mean look at this post . Can you imagine trying to force a whole country of people like OP to exercise, eat well, avoid liquor, and in general live a lifestyle that would help them grow?
Grayson Taylor
You do what you want user and if makes your life better im happy for it but your T levels are your fault alone
Josiah Phillips
>be trans >get hormones and hormone blockers >be mentally sane, high achieving western male >TESTOSTERONE IS DANGEROUS >almost half the world is overweight/obese, hundreds of millionaires alcoholics or smokers >TESTOSTERONE IS DANGEROUS
I really question if where is some conspiracy to keep western men weak and subservient, it really makes no sense. There surely would be benefits to society if young men had more energy and could work more, do more (and hence consume more), even from an economic standpoint it would have benefits.
>lose ability to orgasm This was intended and is intended as a side effect of having to increase your threshold so that mastrubation and sex is no longer the monkey-button-slam dopamine hit to the brain. The short circuit is your chronic masturbation. Give the antidepressants another chance for 6 months. It will help you look for other things to get that dopamine hit back and oh god the sex can be amazing and much more worth it in the end, euphoric.
Hunter Sullivan
>>be mentally sane, high achieving western male >>TESTOSTERONE IS DANGEROUS >>almost half the world is overweight/obese, hundreds of millionaires alcoholics or smokers >>TESTOSTERONE IS DANGEROUS the origin of this is Arnold wanting to please the Kennedy and pushing to end to legal testosterone
Christian Adams
I took SSRIs for years, it not only kills your orgasm it kills your libido entirely, this is pretty much scientifically proven. I always recommend to stop watching porn, but if you're on SSRIs and having dick problems, it's the SSRIs.
Evan Cooper
>don't use that nicotine patch, your smoking is your fault >don't use that insulin, your diabetes is your fault >don't take that aspirin, your hangover is your fault
I'm not blaming anyone for my testosterone levels, I'm suggesting something that might help others in a similar situation. I will say though that I've never been particularly sedentary. This job I have now is the first sedentary job I've ever had, everything I've had before has been labouring (builder's labourer, labourer at recycling plant, factory hand), and I've never eaten crap either
Cameron Smith
>don't use that nicotine patch, your smoking is your fault it is >don't use that insulin, your diabetes is your fault If type 2 than yes it is your fault >don't take that aspirin, your hangover is your fault again yes it is your fault
You are free to do what you want user but its still comical that you felt you needed a physical need to change yourself instead of simply forcing yourself to make a change. But arguing with you is pointless, i hope the rest of your life meets your expectations and more.
Adrian Fisher
It's your fault, that doesn't mean you shouldn't do anything about it. But if you're some sort of anti-medicine hippy that's cool as well
Julian Price
BPA, throw out your plastic and restructure society to dodge it. Even receipts are coated in the stuff. Even toilet paper. Skin exposure gets it into you.
I unironically believe this too.
Xavier Russell
idk man the whole steroid thing seems super fishy to me. the consequences are too high, but if you could achieve more testosterone naturally that would be nice
Owen Anderson
>its hardest to be white
Every time. You virgins really need to take responsibility for your own fuckups.
