Why are you all so obsessed with having a virgin GF...

And here we see a toastie roastie trying to go under cover. Isn't it cute?

It's the matter of how many gallons of seed she's had before me. How many times she's said "I love you" and then changed her mind before me.

Fuck off with your roastie memes

Because there are things I value far more than how "fun" it is to have sex with her.

> I'm an ex-robot who got the fuck out of the house and in the intervening year have fucked women of various levels of experience from virgin to roastie, and yet I keep going back to the roasties.
Okay, so you're a degenerate having a ton of casual sex without commitment?
No wonder you don't care, you're not trying to build a relationship, you're trying to make your penis feel good.

>You're fucking an organ
No, I'm being intimate with a person I love.

It's because most people browsing here have small dicks. So the first one she sees wouldnt think they have a small one.

>Im an ex-robot

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I put a lot of time and effort into sex. And I always pull the girl, after about 2 mins most ask me if I'm going to cum yet? Like they've never had anyone last that long.
Point I'm making here is, most guys are fucking terrible at sex, like hilariously bad. You don't have to worry about Chad user, he gets in and gets out...Chad doesn't need to prove himself.

>statistics clearly show
Here we go again. Jow Forums is the most gullible board on Jow Forums confirmed.

Roasties are the most desperate to keep and make a relationship work and settle for less, trust me. Virgins or less experienced females always crave for something new because they havent tried it yet, and they never settle for less than chad. And so the cycle continues

. >Okay, so you're a degenerate having a ton of casual sex without commitment?

Apparently, yes. The fact you think it's degenerate where most people would regard it as normal perhaps speaks more of you than it does of the societal problems you love to scapegoat.

>No, I'm being intimate with a person I love.

I would argue that if you truly loved someone their past would be little concern to you. Love is unconditional, lust has requisites.

>here we see a toastie roastie trying to go under cover. Isn't it cute?

I'm a dude. Not sure how to prove, but I'm a dude

>>It's not about physical virginity or quality of sex

That's about the only well-reasoned response so far. I suppose you're statistically correct but I find Jow Forums's reliance on dubious statistics and this intense requirement to categorise everyone under labels produces a broken, paranoid and highly pessimistic worldview. Let us say you met and hit it off with a girl. She's all you can think about, and then you find out she once took a guy home from a nightclub or some shit. That would really be a deal-breaker for you? I mean you're entitled to your own preferences but it seems you're willingly denying yourself happiness there.

>The idea of her thinking "Chad was so much better than this loser" would never leave my mind. It's like I'm getting cucked by my own paranoia.

That was something I suffered BADLY from too, but at crunch time it's much less of a problem than you'd imagine because the concept of 'good sex' differs wildly between those who never or rarely have it and those who often do. Good sex is disgusting, sweaty, intense, passionate and fucking great, bad sex is robotic, pornographic and just downright depressing. In my experience, women love it when you love it, and we love it when she loves it. It won't be a problem when the time comes, friend. Believe me. You won't be having sex with someone who regards you as a loser, anyway.

>perhaps speaks more of you than it does of the societal problems you love to scapegoat.

No it doesn't, you platitude spouting faggot.

maybe logic and facts don't mean anything to you, but they do to smart people.

Incels aren't smart people. That's why logic and facts don't work on them.

Did you ever think that it's because the virgins are usually muslim or christian fundamentalists who think a flaming meteorite will fall on their head if they even think about something like that, and not because girls that get laid are brought up to find someone and divorce them asap? Your post reeks of insecurity, if you can't measure up to a real man your marriage will be a shitshow regardless.

If your view places you in an extreme minority and you refuse to accept that then you're just stupid. I firmly believe that salt stems from jealousy of your peers who are participating in that sort of behaviour. Thinking of yourself as 'above' that is such a fucking cope. I don't understand why you people volcel yourselves and hate women because you're looking for something which literally doesn't exist - a mentally sound and physically attractive 20+ virgin. People like to do fun things, and sex is about as fun as it gets. Call it leddit mentality or whatever but you're only making life worse for yourself user.

>If your view places you in an extreme minority and you refuse to accept that

What makes you think I don't accept that my views are held by a minority?
I'm well aware of it.

>if you truly loved someone their past would be little concern to you.
No, it's the exact opposite actually. When you're in love with someone and you don't care about their past, you don't care about their personality, you don't care about who they are, that's infatuation. That's lust.

>I went to prison.
>I don't care. I love you.
>For murder.
>Don't care. I love you.
>And bestiality.
>Don't care. I love you.
>In college I majored in--
>Don't care. I love you.
>I was born in--
>Don't care. I love you.
Sounds like a mental illness. Doesn't it?

You're the one ignoring facts and statistics.

Who cares? I'm dying alone either way, my preferences don't matter.

Most people grow out of thinking that they're profoundly intelligent in comparison to the unthinking masses when they're about 12 or 13. It's an important facet of human psychology. Yet you think everyone is degenerate and you're the noble upholder of some arbitrary sexual commandment. What is there to gain from thinking people doing normal things are degenerate? I just don't get it. No well-adjusted girl or indeed human for that matter is going to touch you with a bargepole - leaving you with religious fanatics, autists and deformed people. Bravo.

Spotted the cuckoriginallo

>sounds like a mental illness, doesn't it?

You're actually quoted the Merovingian in a serious discussion hahahaha. I can only assume you're 14 and just discovering how shitty life really is.

Like you people always do when justifying your opinions you've quoted some pretty extreme examples there. I wouldn't get into a relationship with someone who'd been to jail for murder or engaged in bestiality because people who're mentally unwell are draining to be in a relationship with. Couldn't give a shit what they studied. Couldn't give a shit about age or nationality as long as I'm physically attracted to em.

Explain clearly why that post makes you think I'm a cuck.

>I wouldn't get into a relationship with someone who'd been to jail for murder or engaged in bestiality
but if you really loved them, you would. After all, the past doesn't matter.

It depends what you want. Are you looking for long term relationship / wife? Or, are you just looking to empty your balls with cock-craving women?

You can't turn a ho into a housewife. If you are looking for a stable long-term relationship, you get diminishing returns if you are not her first.

I was a virgin until I was 24. Khv even. And I strongly believe the lack of experience and experimentation has stunted my ability to enjoy sex. Now just get anxious about it and have no fucking idea what to do.

Best to have a girl of an average amount of partners. If a girl is a virgin at a certain later age it's rarely by personal conviction or purity. It's because we are mentally fucked up/ugly and just took it to the other extreme. I never even really see guys would fuck me early on. I thought I was repulsive to everyone

>yet I keep going back to the roasties

and a wild cuckold faggot with aids appears. here is your trophy for being a good little cuckfag.

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you know the statistics are against you and promiscuous women make terrible long term partners.

Statistics also show virgin women make terrible partners.

when you really love someone, their past doesnt matter. love is irrational. ideally you should love a certain type of person, but you may end up loving a total degenerate. ive never loved a degenerate guy, but it gets complicated. i love my bf so much that he could call me names everyday and i would forgive him and love him still.

This is what it boils down to.

If she was fucking other men before you, then you are just another man to her. After some time, she will get bored, and continue down the same path of promiscuity and either cheat on you, or if you were dumb enough to marry her, then she will file divorce. Voila. She gets the kids, and the house.

As a man today, you have two options, really:
a) You never get married or enter serious long-term relationships
b) Your religious/cultural ethnic community helps to arrange a girl for you, OR, if white, then you get lucky as shit and somehow find a unicorn who then falls in love with you, after which you manage to keep her on a leash and domesticate her

Since option b isn't applicable to most men, you only really have option a.

If he turned out to be drug-dealer Tyrone or antisocial abusive Chad, you are telling me that you would still love him?

What the fuck is wrong with you? Don't you have a brain?

>What the fuck is wrong with you? Don't you have a brain?
It's just your average female

Shallow fag casual sex is degenerate have fun getting cheated on and skeeted on your whole life unfortunately people are made up of experiences and memories from their past they kinda matter

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c) Fall for the virgin meme and marry a virgin girl. Have a miserable marriage she turns out to be frigid and never wants to have sex except when attempting to procreate. After having 4 children, she suddenly decides she wants something new and cheats on you with Tyrone who gets her pregnant.

So it ends up being the same as a regular marriage but less sex? Damn that sucks.

Did your grandmother cheat on your granddad with Tyrone after having 4 kids?

Fuck no.

I'd think the opposite, won't a virgin be likely to leave you because she hasn't lived and will want to experience the wild life

Most unoriginal post ever.

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You're either a roast or a whiteknight, either ways, fuck off.

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You think wrong. Is this your first time here?

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You're right, I didn't think it through, it would never get through to marriage with virgins, they would leave you well before that to have their experiences.

How new are you? You're not supposed to believe those meme graphs with fake data.

Have fun being a hate-filled virgin your whole life

Statistically speaking a virgin is by far the worst choice if you want a lasting relationship. Only about 2-3% of virgins you have sex with actually end up marrying you.

Ok, dear shlomo noseberg.

Not surprising. Not surprising very promiscuous people have the hardest time staying faithful either.
Best to go with someone who's had their fun, but too much, and is ready to settle down.

Best is to date without preconceptions. If you like her date her and see where it goes. Maybe it will go all the way to marriage or a break up. But the only way to find out is to try.

>thinking what a bunch of pasty, oddly shaped nerds think about women's purity

why even make this thread? it's not like anyone on r9k will procreate, so their opinions hold 0 weight in the grand scheme of things

its literally just virgins having tantrums

>Statistically speaking a virgin is by far the worst choice if you want a lasting relationship.
Statistically speaking, the exact opposite is true.

If a virgin resulted in the most lasting relationship, then why isn't everyone together with their first? Why is the opposite true, that literally no one ends up marrying their first?

>not fucking a girl until she learns and experiences with you

>and then leaves you

>I'm a dude. Not sure how to prove, but I'm a dude
post boi butt with sharpie in pooper and time stamp.

Proud owner of a virgin I deflowered. It's worth it, the lack of baggage is worth the shitty sex for the first few months. If you're in it for the long haul, a virgin is the best option.
(Had mine for 5 years now. Haven't even had an argument)

I have a fetish for girls that are experiencing sex for the first time. Especially if they are nervous/embarrassed. I think that solidifying sex as something youve only experienced with one person is healthy, so you will grow more attached to your real partner.

[Spoiler]I have a virgin gf. Probably not gonna fuck her till marriage for a few reasons. We can still do everything that doesnt involve sticking a dick in a vagina and i wish penis in vagina sex were more sacred. Sure im cool with hookups but not if it ends in actual intercourse.

have fun being an incel