Normies think suicide is terrible as they do not know what it is like to have anything but meme depression. lets list their arguments and dismantle them.
Biggest one they use first. >suicide is selfish Well, I actually think living in perpetual pain for others so they dont feel bad is selfless, it is selfish for otehrs to expect someone to be in agony, an agony they DONT AND CANNOT understand just so they dont feel bad you are not around anymore.
>you have so much to live for 1.You dont feel you do if you are depressed and always have been and always will be. (clinical depression) 2.Why do I have to live? (ill get into this later)
>suicide is for cowards and is stupid 1.if you went to a cafe everyday and they shit in your sandwich would you keep going?, so why is it different in life? 2.It actually takes balls to an hero in a way that kills you and isnt a meme way like roasties do. 3.this statement relies on normies who have no idea at all what it is like to feel this way.
The bottom line is this, and normies cant refute this as it BTFO all their arguments. >if you are an adult, and choose to an hero that should be 100% fine because the only thing you ever actually own in life is yourself and if you want to die and you are an adult you definitely should be allowed to.
Anyone disagree? Keep in mind im not talking about kids with meme depression I mean clinically depressed people or just anyone who wants to end it, hell you own your life you dont need a good reason to kill yourself if you are an adult.
desu I'd just like it if people stopped using 'an hero'. I mean I get it, it's a memo, it's been around since before Jow Forums was a secret clubhouse, but seriously, wtf.
Anyways, I challenge anyone who doesn't want to kill themselves to name one good reason why I shouldn't. There is literally no reason I'm still alive aside from the fact that alcohol exists and forces me to make irrational decisions like continuing to slave away on this shitty muddy planet.
David Hill
>desu I'd just like it if people stopped using 'an hero'. I mean I get it, it's a memo,
It makes it a lot easier to discuss the topic when you are talking with anons especially when you arent a user like on discord ect.
It is just a non perjorative word more than a meme
Holy shit I remember when I was that deep into it and some girl irl said I was being selfish for being serious about going through with ending it, why do they do that? Wouldn't they be afraid to say that sort of thing in case they make the situation worse or something? When I think back to it now it makes absolutely no sense
>you have so much to live for People who say this usually have no idea why or how you've gotten to that point and are preaching that sentence off of feelings instead of facts about the situation (or their own personal views, eg. 'there is always something to live for user!).
It is just really weird, normies have this weird value on life. when old people die they act like its all G because quality of life is bad but when it is an adult with mental illness they condemn them dying and escaping.
If you fail to find a purpose greater than yourself in life and live by hedonist principles there's no flaw in your argument. Existentialists discuss this incredibly in-depth and I'd suggest revisiting them.
Julian Moore
Ah, jesus, the TOP MIND of Jow Forums is here to Grace Us With His Philosophical Presence.
My fellow Dean, Existentialists kill themselves too once they get to the end of the road like we do - your philosophy really doesn't matter in any sense of the word.
Aiden Cook
Ill do it on tuesday got the exit bag ready and everything
Aaron Wright
Why on Tuesday?
Justin Diaz
>Existentialists kill themselves too once they get to the end of the road like we do - your philosophy really doesn't matter in any sense of the word. Go ahead and try to actually refute Nietzsche's stance on suicide.
Ayden Barnes
why should tehy stick around if they feel life is shit.
GG user, can you explain what made you decide to end it?
INB4 moral fags try to tell you that you should stick around. user, how did you make sure you got the good felium? will you stream it?
What do you guys think it'll be like? In the last moments i mean that transition from living to nonexistent. Do you think time will slow and you'll realize it's the last second of existence or do you think it'll be instant and you won't realize what even happened? Obviously method influences it a bit but I'm thinking gun
Robert Rivera
WIth a gun im thinking instant, if you blow your head of everything should be gone.
But seriously who the fuck knows what will happen when you do die, I am hoping there is like an after life and you will be happy....
I am not one for religion at all but the thought of a perpetual torture session or some shit would be bad.
We just want to stop feeling so shit, would be nice if we do get a nice after life
>wishful thinking the post
Aaron Allen
I just like to imagine what it'll be like to actually transition from living to nothing. I assume it'll be like the transition from awake to asleep. You don't notice or feel it at all it's just click and you're out. As for the afterlife I don't believe anything is after. If there is anything after to me the most plausible is repeat or rebirth in general. I can't rule out another run at existence considering it happened once with our birth currently. Nothing seemingly stops it from going again and again and again. I sure hope that's not the case though.
Luke Lee
Suicide is for quitters. It's selfish to an extent because we all live to serve others. Those who only serve their self are never fulfilled in life.
Charles Russell
Then, by that reasoning, suicide is for those who wish to serve no one.
Luke Sanders
>Suicide is for quitters Correct, people who want to quit feeling like shit and dealing with bullshit in this life they never asked for.
>Those who only serve their self are never fulfilled in life. So, it is our fault that some of us feel terrible? I am to blame, nothings beyond our control or our fucked brain.
Thanks user im sure blaming people who want to die by saying it is all their fault will make them not want to die, as I assume you are virtue signalling?
I've tried to get pure helium before, you can't buy it off the internet (anywhere I've seen) and the only chemical supplier required some sort of permit for purchase. Also, it was like 400$ for a tank of it, and even more for argon. Would be genuinely interested to know where you got it.
Aiden Hall
Its possible in aus i got it for 75 aus pure and everything only fucking benifit of living in this liberal infested shithole
Matthew Adams
Hi man im an aussi user, can you give me more info?
Thanks for the catgirl. God damn, this is a nice picture.
Chase King
Will 80% helium not kill you?
Jeremiah Hall
The earth is 20% ogygen. Take a guess.
Nathan Stewart
Damn I was hoping for a "peaceful" way out but I guess a gun will have to do.
Adam Taylor
Is it necessary to come whining about (You)r shitty lives anons?, if you can't go on just fkng end it, why do you need the approval of the contrarians?, It's just evidentiate your cry for attention. I wouldn't do it but kinda respect those who just did it because they couldn't cope, without a single word or hesitation.
They deliverd to melbourne so it should work in other parts where i at user?
Jason Scott
>It's just evidentiate your cry for attention Actually this thread is not a whiny thread it is for discussion of the subject.
im NT fag thats ok, I know you like your cat girls :)
Luis King
The only thing I can really say against it is that there may be something more interesting that you could do. Like maybe try to learn piano or something. I'm not saying that it's a cure all but I mean what's the worst that happens, you die? I guess pursuing random interests and maybe getting a change in scenery could be interesting so I try it. And I mean, I can kill myself anytime.
Jacob Johnson
Fucking scared of the afterlife, I hate life but I wish I could live it again idk. I'm fucking scared and can't stop thinking about this shit. Start being more mindful of how time passes so fast, I want it to fucking stop. My brain keeps running in circles, I'm losing my fucking shit.
Julian Baker
I guess at the end of the day I feel none of it really matters, so why not give it all a try, you know? Maybe try to burn out this existence with a laugh or two, it's all a joke at the end of the day anyways
Michael Long
Everyday life gets worst recently made a hole in my roof so I can hang myself just working out how to not have a funeral or have people see my body.
I've been thinking about using train tracks for quite some time now which is definitely one of the more instant and available options that I have living in a no gunz country
Anons, quick question: Is it allowed to post detailed suivide methods in this thread? Cuz if it's fine by you, I'll gladly provide a nice method I'm looking forward to use myself
Jace Evans
>Is it allowed to post detailed suivide methods in this thread? Cuz if it's fine by you, I'll gladly provide a nice method I'm looking forward to use myself FBI or mods can legitimately report your post to the police and you could be detained and locked in the loony bin.
Liam Campbell
post pic of roof I am curious what you mean. I decided I dont want my senpai to see me when I die but then I know burying the body helps people get over the death so IDK man.
>finally a good thread Hey thanks man, I try to make decent threads to make up for my Waifu threads :)
>I've been thinking about using train tracks for quite some time now which is definitely one of the more instant and available options that I have living in a no gunz country
Yeah man, this seems like a good option, I am also in no guns country...You in aus?
man that is fine and what this thread is about. as long as it doesnt involve hurting people other than yourself the mods wont care. fuck off man.
UK? ha! Good luck you'll be waiting so long you'll die of natural causes!
Grayson Perry
nah britbong here
I've been scouting the train station at night and noting the train times and where I can lie down and not be seen by the driver. As long as I can keep my head down for long enough I'll free myself from this hell
Okay, so y'all know nikotin right? The shit inside tobacco? It's pretty poisonous, so just harvest it from regular tobacco. It's literally one of the easiest ways to ohtain actual poison, let alone the most legal way. Could tell you how, but i'll just wait for some responses
Ayden Phillips
Guess how much 50G of rolling tobacco costs in australia. $80
Ayden Stewart
Wish there is a review of tents and which to buy and which not in regards of generating CO insides the tent.
Grayson Scott
Well, why tf is it so expensive? Back here, it's only 30-40 euros for around 200g
Brandon Brooks
Its getting more expensive as well. it will cost $40 for 20 smokes soon. its all TAX like all TAX
Dominic Barnes
suicide is illegal go get beaten up by niggers
Wyatt Ward
Since when? It's not illegal to kill yourself, it's just illegal to actively help.
Nathaniel Robinson
Fuck. Huh, I guess my method doesn't really work under 200g of tobacco
James Sullivan
singapore, cyprus, new guinea and a few others mark suicide as illegal
It's ironic. If you make it legal, people might actually consider not doing it so fast, they might actually take time before doing it, thinking if this is good or not. But nah, make them shoot themselves out of fear of getting jailed
Aaron Brooks
>Suicide is for quitters. It's selfish to an extent because we all live to serve others. Those who only serve their self are never fulfilled in life.
I've spent 32 years toiling to serve others I'm 49 and began working as a teen in dangerous difficult conditions. My ex wife is a bat bitch, my children are inconsiderate shits, I have paid enough in taxes to buy ten houses but have to live in rental supporting a society around me that I loathe. I love my dog and because I know 90% o people are basically evil I don't want him to be lost without me and when he dies I will an hero. I have been deciding this and reached my decision.
Nathaniel Long
I will use nitrogen gas and a pneumatic rod through the brain on a 15 minute timer
Jordan Lewis
There should be facility's where you can suicide. You sound really nice man, I hope find peace.
I'd wish we live in a society in which suicide is wildly accepted and thus suicide booths are even installed and you can go inside and be finished with everything.
Joseph Cox
We all live to serve others, which means others live to serve us. Not wanting other people to serve us means that they can serve others, suicide filtering out the trash of society who need to rely on others.
Cooper Roberts
>suicide is selfish People not supporting and taking care of their friends and family is selfish. Shouldn't have to announce you're depressed for someone to care about you.
The whole idea of an afterlife is flawed. Think about it. For everything that defines you, your feelings and memories, you need a living body. Brain for memories and emotions, a nervous system for feelings. When you die and your brain is dead - no more feelings, memories and emotions. You stop existing, there is no more a 'you'.
Ethan Allen
>hurr durr muh depression >what is psichiatry You're all attentionwhores who never even went to a doctor for an actual diagnose. I wish you actually an-hero'd. >inb4 I-I'm so special that n-no drugs work on me!
Zachary Ward
All it takes to get an "official diagnosis" from a psych is to just tell them "I feel depressed all the time." They'll put you on some numbing ssri that won't actually make your life any better. Nothing special about it. No special tests or anything. They only give you a different drug if you tell them "this one isn't working." It's all self reporting.
I think it's selfish to stay alive in pain just so others can feel good about themselves
Lincoln Diaz
Ah, 3rd world user-kun or burger-kun, here it is easy as booting your PC to get a diagnosis about your mental state.
Christopher Cook
This should've been /thread
Brandon Perez
This gave me a half chub, am I a pedo now?
Bentley Gomez
>suicide is selfish It's not like those hypocritical normies even care about you living. They all pretend to be "affected" when someone heros just for attention >you have so much to live for I clearly don't if I want to end it, once and for all >suicide is for cowards Suicide/depression got pretty much normalised by attention whores, everyone who is sad today claims to be depressed. I get so fucking angry when I see those dumb fuck stacies or sadbois with cut wrists who keep saying "I wanna die I hate life :(((((((". They are the true cowards. They cut across just to survive long enough to be found and rescued. True and real suicide takes actual balls to do (especially shooting yourself or hanging). >you are an adult Yeah and you are the one who shoukd get to choose your fate. You want to die? Go for it. Euthanasia should be allowed, especially for disabled people. I had a friend who got into accident, had his spine damaged and can't move anything below his tummy. He's working a dead end job in his shithole village, is barely able to cover all the expenses. He lives next to his family and they literally treat him like a deadweight, yet when he tried to hero they "saved him".
Tl;dr everyone deserves the right to kill themselves. It's an act of bravery. Normies turned depression and suicide into a meme.
Camden Hughes
>So it's our fault some of us feel terrible.
Essentially, yes. Even if you aren't responsible for how your misery began, it's on you for not fixing it.
