Who /minimalist/ here?

>The nostalgiac things are the hardest to let go of.

That's my problem too. I've got a trillion knick-knacks and things that are mementos of the better times that I can't let go of. Other than that it's a pretty bare-bones lifestyle.

How do you make friends or girlfriend with such a boring life

I like the sound of that OP, I recently donated my entire bookshelf to a charity shop and got a kindle instead, kind of sad to see them go, having huge collections of things is nice, but the kindle is much more convinient

I'm into luxury minimalism. Like having a very clear and easy to clean home with long lasting aesthetic furniture and one or two signature pieces that stand out. Nothing on countertops either. I like a clean minimalist luxury look that's hard to get messy.

I don't use phones if that counts, outside of important calls and alarms.

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It saves you money from generally consuming less stuff, especially shit like cars. However my rent is high because biking distance to downtown, and replacing many shitty items with one good quality item costs money since you usually can't sell the shitty items. Like instead of 10 mediocre work shits you have just 2 good quality ones.
I still spend less overall than normalfags though.
>boring
Not having a bunch of junk around is boring? My apartment doesn't look like a fleamarket or a hoarder grandmother's house so it's boring? Nice to admit you don't have a personality.
My place looks like a magazine picture and people love it, so stay jelly.
Nice bruh. Kindles are great, though I usually do audiobooks while I wageslave. Collecting physical books is expensive and takes forever, it could take weeks to find the book I want and wait for it to be shipped here. Instead I can download whatever the hell I want in 3 seconds.

For me it's about cleanliness and aesthetic. About being clear headed and having a place that's easy to look good. Instead of spending on million knick knacks I'd rather have unique furniture and a few signature pieces that pop out. A home is a sanctuary and a piece of art.

Yep, free books, also the dictionary and notes are a godsend, much better than fumbling around with sticky notes

>all white
I don't use bleach very often and white shows stains easily so I just go without bleach and buy everything in black and blue
>moving is easy
I got everything moved out pretty fast last month when I was forced to move with 10 minutes notice so I think I'm doing okay not amazing though

I get it, man. My place cleans up in 10 minutes. I hate people with a ton of "decorations" and all of them look like absolute shit. The only decorations I have are bottles of alcohol and candles, if they count, and I actually use the candles. My floor is this beautiful darkwood and I think the way it contrasts with my pure white super-fluffy bed and the white walls is art in itself. I do have a dividing screen that's pretty artistic, has a plum blossom tree on it. But that's to block the light from the kitchen and keep my bed area dark and calm, so it's functional.
Less is more. As opposed to 90000 cheap plastic gag items from walmart crammed into every surface.
I feel it.
I deleted all my social media and other shit. Phones have great utility though. Navigation, banking, etc.

Am I minimalist if I care about saving space and time but not money? I want easy to clean rooms with mostly bare tables, bare countertops, floors, and walls with unique furniture and one or two signature pieces per room.

Yep, that's rich man's minimalism.

>do nothing but sleep on cumsoaked mattress, eat plain boiled macarons, no wipe pooping and browse Jow Forums for 18 hours with public wifi

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Yes exactly. When you're minimalist cleaning is easy. No more having to deal with clutter all over. No more overwhelming rooms. Less stress. When you're not minimalist cleaning is a nightmare.

Rust's apartment from true detective has the best decoration there is. Books, a mattress and a box full of weapons and some whiskey.

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by subscribing to popular minimalism you have made yourself more focused on your possessions, which is the exact opposite of the point of minimalism desu

I think the key is spending like you're poor for many things so you can afford select luxuries of the rich.

The point for me is not to end up like the hoarders I know.

I'm hoping to be able to fit all my sentimental items into a shoe box.

You can also just photograph all the stuff you want to remember and keep it on a harddrives. So if you have big photo albums or wood work projects you did as a kid. You can scan or take photos of them to keep on your computer instead.

I don't know. I like having things a lot. Comfy cushions, soft blankets, candles, pictures of pets (don't get on with family) books, my butterfly collection, my creepy retro soft toys, just stuff. I probably do place too much value on it all. I definitely need a clear out of clothes in particular,

Bare rooms make me anxious. I somewhat agree on the no pet thing if you're happier with no responsibility (and my god the stress and messes I've dealt with) but I couldn't go without that affection.

Damn. You just described my ideal life as I have been imagining for years now. I fucking envy you, you lucky motherfucker. Congradulations on building such a life for yourself, my man. I don't know you, but if we're as similar as our ideal life, then I'm fucking proud of you. You must have went through a lot of shit to achieve that.

>tfw living with parents
>parents keep hoarding things in the house
>furniture is everywhere
>feel extremely anxious just living in this house
This is torture

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Both my parents were hoarders. My dad owns a 3 story house with full attic, full basement, and TWO sheds. He lives alone. It's all full to the brim with junk. I mean rusted tetanus looking garbage piles of junk. Piles in the yard, piles in the living room, piles in the hallways. When I was a kid he'd use my closet to store shit because the rest of the house was filled up. And I'm an only kid so I get to inherit all of that, and i'll probably pay some nigger to set it on fire and then collect the insurance payout from it.

I spend very little money on things and only have some subscriptions because I use my parents accounts. I'll likely only end up spending about 750 a month total once I move out on my own.

Why not invest? It's like spending big but if you do it right you make it back.

Do you like to invest in the market?

Yes, it makes me feel like a high roller, rather than just leaving it in the bank.

>move out
>get a real job so you never feel poor, feeling poor triggers hoarding because "what if"
>start getting rid of shit, because you probably had to drag along a ton of shit with you to escape your parents, or they foisted it all on you after (my dad mailed me boxes of shit that I asked him to drop off at goodwill for me. It all went in the trash and it cost him $50 in shipping.) Had to ask parents repeatedly to stop buying me shit, because even though I moved across the country they still want to send me heaps of junk all the time. Had to repeat it to the point of being utterly mean because they wouldn't stop. Had to kill my feelings of guilt about throwing stuff away. Had to stop giving a shit what people think about my only wearing like 10 outfits.
You can do it, just get the fuck out of there, your parents are poisoning you.
Bonus, I told my mom about konmari, and she finally downsized (slightly) from hoarder to merely a packrat.
I'm pretty ruined on pets. My mom had like 5 cats and the house stank, there were fleas, always shit or puke or piss all over the place, everything was always destroyed or covered in hair. I can't think about pets without wanting to puke. My grandmother had 30 cats in a one story, 2 bd house. It stank from 40 yards away, not even kidding. Even normal people with pets, there's still so much filth that it's disgusting.
I'm not a germaphobe, either. If food falls on my floor I pick it up and eat it. I use baking soda instead of dish soap and refuse to use antibacterial soap or other bullshit and my cleaning product is...baking soda, for everything. Animals are just filthy and it triggers this revulsion in me. I like visiting zoos and aquariums though.
I can't even own fish because my dad had two tanks when I was a kid and one day he stopped taking care of the fish and they all slowly died, and as a kid it was somewhat traumatic to see those beautiful creatures die and the dead bodies float there for months.

>I can't even own fish because my dad had two tanks when I was a kid and one day he stopped taking care of the fish and they all slowly died, and as a kid it was somewhat traumatic to see those beautiful creatures die and the dead bodies float there for months.
Haha wtf

>>one load of laundry a week, which includes my sheets
Wasting water isnt very minimalist

Your family is gross, the whole lot of them. I've bet you've got a whole bunch of stories about their filthy ways.

>Creepy retro soft toys
Can you post pics user? Kinda curious to see

Define essentials tho

I don't know user, I get that Kindles are convenient and all but I really don't like the plastic fake feel of them. Paper just feels so much nicer plus I love the sentimental/almost mystic value of old books.

>Mattress on floor

This makes it get dirtier due to the increased exposure to dust and the restricted airflow makes it build up mould and mildew faster. I choose not to do this because I don't want to inhale mycotoxins for over a third of my life as I sleep.

Anyways I'm semi-minimalist but I don't believe in taking things to autistic degrees. I just have a philosophy that the more things you have, the less utility each one has. You have to spend more of your time cleaning, organising, storing, maintaining, and fucking around with them. At some point you need to get a place with more sqftage just to store your shit which means you're working just to accumulate more stuff, and that of course means you're enjoying the stuff you do have less.

However I don't believe this means you need to become a fucking ascetic, too little stuff can be as limiting as too much. It's more about thinking carefully about what you want to invest your time and money into.

I own two computers because my computer is how I make a living so the redundancy is extremely practical. I use multiple monitors because it improves the type of workflows I do. I own a good microphone + headset to allow voice chat and listening to music at night, and speakers to allow me to listen to music while roaming around during the day and because headphones get uncomfortable after awhile. I own a lot of board games that rarely get used because the reason they rarely get used isn't that I don't really enjoy them, it's that I have nobody to play with which is a circumstance that may change. I own several single-use kitchen gadgets because they save me time in dishes I enjoy that I frequently cook. I also own a printer/scanner, e-reader, pay for cloud storage, and ask for electronic originals of documents. These possessions themselves are burdens but I've eliminated a bunch of files, books, and sentimental items like greeting cards that were just gathering dust without having to lose them.

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>explaining everything away
missing the point.

Can you posr pics of your apartment op?

God don't I. I had fleas when I was a kid because my mom's fucking cats. Have you ever had fleas? It's unpleasant.
I was pretty much neglected as a kid. It was squalor, they're literally hoarders. I've posted stories before, not gonna repeat, you may have read them already. Anyway I'm an adult now and can do what I want. I want my place impeccably clean and nearly empty. I don't use chemical cleaning products though, just a broom, a rag, water, and maybe baking soda.
>adding sentimental value to physical items
Not gonna make it. The point of a book is to read it. The paper or plastic is just the delivery system.

It's kind of funny how little we really need. I'm sleeping on the floor since 2 years and it's really comfy. Just knowing that you're not dependent on your material possesions and that you can fit them in one bag is somehow calming.
Definitely would advice trying out minimalistic lifestyle.

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This is one the most irresponsible and fucked up uses of money I've ever read.

I'm down with getting rid of useless shit and not buying stuff for no reason

but i love physical books. my room is crammed with them, i go to the library and check out tons at a time, i love reading and kindles give me a headache.

The Kobo (fug Jeff Bezos :DDD) is amazing IF YOU ACTUALLY READ BOOKS because of the amount of fucking space, time, and money it saves you. Pirating e-books, taking out loans from the library, and buying e-books are all trivially easy. I'll always try to borrow from the library first in the interest of social responsibility. The more people borrowing, the more the government will give them in order to pay authors for more books. Otherwise I pirate, and if I can't pirate I'll buy

The only books I tend to buy are textbooks and cookbooks. The former because textbooks tend to work better with large full colour pages and memory retention is improved with paper. The latter because cookbooks by authors I like are rarely available in e-book form, paper has sanitary advantages, and there are so many retarded recipes on the internet it takes time to dig through to find good ones and it's easy to get memed.

No it's just that I have a different and better philosophy than you do in regards to keeping possessions. I believe in a middle way between being a mindless consumer whore and being a minimalist.

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i feel like minimalism is supposed to make you chiller but this dude is exactly the opposite and has some stick up his ass about people not being "pure" minimal or something

Yeah, you get used to it though, it's also much comfier to read, no more problems holding open 1000 pages with one hand in bed. Also the screen on the paperwhite looks amazing.
Woah user, that looks and appears to work just like a kindle, probably should've gotten one, oh well.
Sleeping bag life does seem comfy, I always got a great night's sleep camping, maybe it's because I was tired from walking though
>konmari
they're just boxes though?

Minimalism was one of the best memes I've ever gotten into.

>Me and my sibling have always had issues with keeping our spaces clean
>I was bad, but my sibling is one of those mild cases in that show TLC: Hoarders
>Later make friends with somebody who is a complete minimalist
>We always hung out in their space because it was always clean and smelt nice
>He mooched drugs off of us, but we never complained because his always tidy room was so essential to us having a good time
>Really made me think
>Get into minimalism

>Meanwhile sibling has a fucking GIANT collection of clothing they never wear, manga they never read, and low quality collectables, subscribes to stupid shit like lootcrate
>Go into siblings place one day, it's a disaster, smells bad, fire hazard, serious concern it will lead to eviction.
>They're embarrassed and ashamed.
>I'm one of the few people they'll invite over because of my history of being messy. It hurts their social life
>I realised what inspired me to become cleaner wasn't anybody lecturing me, but seeing the value of a clean space in practice.
>Make sure I ALWAYS have a clean space when sibling comes over.
>We start hanging out together more because we have a clean space to go to now.

>Years later they start giving me advice on some problem I had that they solved
>Conversation flips, they ask me how I managed to become so much cleaner
>JUST AS PLANNED
>Start talking about minimalism and how it's the key to becoming a cleaner person
>Months pass
>Starts talking to me about all the stuff they've thrown out
>Months pass
>Go to their house, it's still untidy, but smells okay, is way less crowded
>They proudly talk about how they've been keeping on top of being clean.
>They start inviting parents and friends they've been keeping away from their house out of shame
>They're happier
>MFW I helped my sibling

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Is this a can of milk? How much does the average Japanese drink to maintain this kind of thing? They have everything in a can pretty much in every store

>they
What's the point in this again? Reading this makes me triggered.

I did the Konmari method. It's a good starting point but I felt some of the suggestions like the clothes folding method were autistic so I skipped them. It's a good framework for how to break down minimalism into manageable chunks though.

I do advise the part of the Konmari method where the author talks about getting rid of clothes first, then books, etc. Also the part of the Konmari method where they talk about pulling EVERYTHING out and only putting things back if you really want to. It makes it easier to throw things out psychologically when it's less effort to throw something out than it is to put it back, and it helps you grasp the scale of the amount of useless shit you have. The concepts of "Does this bring me joy" and thinking of how long its been since you used something are also good. As I started to realize keeping a repository of shit had its own cost, I started being less afraid of throwing things out that I knew I MIGHT use a few years down the line, because I realised it's just better to buy shit again than it is to keep a huge collection of junk in order to save money.

Minimalism became big in Japan before it became big in the west because they've had years of experience in dealing with how to cope with small spaces. Minimalism is exponentially more useful the smaller space you live in. So they're the pros.

>What's the point in this again?

Vagueness because I'm paranoid and also I find it hilarious how much Jow Forums and peterson worshippers get triggered by singular they.

>I find it hilarious how much Jow Forums and peterson worshippers get triggered by singular they.
I know! 'You' is the plural of 'thou', but people started using it to be polite, the same as in French, you use 'vous' for a plural or formal 'you'. It's also good for when you don't know the gender of someone

That's a nice story user, my mother has a big problem with hoarding, and it used to really show in myself. I'd even horde in video games too. I've gotten at throwing things out now though, no more books and useless shit that I "might need in three years in case x happens to y"

It says milk coffee.
I don't use the clothes folding method exactly but I have an interpretation of it. It's pretty top tier for keeping your clothing free of wrinkles.
I love the whole "dump ALL the x on the floor" part. When shit is tucked off you never understand but when it's all in a heap on the floor you're like, oh, shit I have a lot of shit.
I just tidied my bathroom and condensed 4 90% empty lotions down to one mason jar that I'll actually use. It's so impossible to get that last bit of lotion out of the bottle. Gonna tidy my closet and do laundry next.
Over time I'm slowly replacing my old crappy belongings with nicer stuff. So today my new sheets arrived so I can toss my embarrassing stained old sheets. I want a new work shirt to replace the crappy ones I tossed, been looking in stores but haven't found any I liked yet. Might drop real money on one of those fancy no-stain no-wrinkle shirts so it will last like 10 years and I never need to deal with a shitty stained one again. I had a shitty stinky falling apart old duffel bag I hated and I replaced it with a new one.
It's better to have one good x than 10 crappy x.

im gonna dump everything that doesn't fit me, gonna get rid of everything I possibly can minus some boxes where I hide my dildos. Will spend a bit replacing the clothes, get rid of any books I've read/never gonna read. Maybe a nice plant for my room too?

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Also to mention, I don't have a real dresser. I use a fabric shelf from amazon and a shoe organizer hanger. But if you are tight on space, back when I had a dresser, using konmari method to fold clothes saved 40% of the space over normal folding. I did it myself to see and it's true. Magic japanese folding or some shit but it's great. Also works for /trv/ so you can onebag and never pay to check a bag.

I have a huge collection of VHS tapes and cassettes and old vidya, it's kind of a hassle moving it to different houses

Do it bro. I had a lot of shitty "professional" clothes I bought through college from goodwill when I didn't know any better. Wore them, felt crappy and poor. One day wearing a particularly bad outfit and the boss passes by and I look and feel like crap and he gave me a look. Purged all my work clothes after that and bought some new, nice ones. Properly fitting, good, clean clothing is important for your confidence.
Prices of good shit drives me insane though. Quality is ridiculously expensive.
>plant
I used to have a ton of houseplants, about 30 of them. Then I had to move out of state. Drove them all to my parents' house and they put them in the yard there (huge rural property.) Now I don't own plants because I move frequently. They're nice if you have only 1 or 2 but more than that it becomes a chore. Constantly trimming them, wiping the leaves clean (dust accumulation will kill the plant over time), maintaining proper water level, fertilizer, etc. It's a bother in my opinion. I love the look of a ton of indoor plants to the point it's a jungle, but it's bothersome. I wouldn't do it unless I meaned to live in the house permanently, and I don't forsee that anytime soon.

What do you guys think of my shelf. I think I have it organized quite well untill you get to the bottom

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Wow, well aren't you just better than everyone else? Want a medal?

Everything about that makes me want to peel my face off.

>Want a medal?
No, that's the point. I'd have to minimise the medal and sell it for gold content.

Why? aside from the wiring near my computer I think all of it looks good

i have a phone, laptop, ereader, and i allow myself one games console (right now i have a switch)

i can personally vouch for the effectiveness of ereaders, i can pretty easily read a book every week or so now that i don't have to worry about tracking down a physical copy

i can't really think of a more frugal and fulfilling hobby

>sanitary advantages
>implying you can sanitize paper

xDDDD SO FUNNY AND QUIRKY BAZINGA! XDDDD

is that milk coffee?

I really like the idea of a minimalist life. my mom is a hoarder and I'm scared of becoming like her, needless clutter causes so many problems

I still live with my parents and I've always been interested in growing plants on a small scale, like 1-3 on the window sill. As for buying new clothes, I'm gonna wait until I've lost a few lbs so I can wear them without feeling insecure as hell. How many 'outfits' should I have? I own like 5 shirts that fit me and 2 pairs of trousers

cook books use glossy paper that you can wipe clean, though you can just wipe your hands before using the ereader

except you're still a cattle wage slave to the jew.... but you're on the right path...

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You know how much bacteria is on your average tablet or laptop? You basically have to wash your hands every time you use your device or you have to use a sanitising wipe beforehand. Yes you could open up a recipe on your tablet before you wash your hands, but often recipes don't completely fit on the tablet screen in practice, so you often have to touch it again.

Now realise with regular books, even library books, the bacteria on them that transfers to your hands is negligible enough it won't make you sick. After a few weeks on the shelf enough bacteria will die that the amount that transfers to your hand may not even be detectable. Now realise with a cookbook, you can wash your hands before you touch the cookbook and open it to the appropriate page which usually fits the entire recipe. Realistically how much bacteria is going to be on them?

I dunno, I've kept a few of my favourite paper cookbooks around. There's a lot of little things I like about them compared to electronics, some of which I haven't listed. I don't think they're by any means necessary.

e-readers are fucking awful for cooking. Tablet is best followed by laptops if you want to use electronics.

I'm into being minimalist lite. I believe in not owning anything you won't use and can't fit into organized storage out of sight. If you have no place to put it, you have too much stuff. I'm into bare walls, floors, tables, and dresser tops with few exceptions. The goal is to have the stuff out of sight and organized.

I miss this lifestyle. When yoy live with a woman, everything takes forever. When i was a bachelor grocery shopping was 15 mins, cooking was 15 mins, cleaning was 15cmins. Now those things take an hour

YOU DON'T OWN NOTHIN GOYIM

that's a cute can.

You sound boring and stupid

You sound like you've just adopted this lifestyle. I've been doing those things forever. Good on you anyways user.

I used to bike everywhere but a car is much more convenient for even less hassle if you live in a flat imo.

Pro-tip: organize everything into labeled cupboards for added /comf/ factor.

Did you notice a difference in the way your boss treats you after you changed your wardrobe?

Realizing how nasty they can be, you are empowered to sanitize your devices properly. You do realize that's an option, right? I'm not saying e-readers are better, just that they can be more sanitary if you choose to make them more sanitary

I've had a long journey of increasing stages of minimalism, now I'm going balls deep in it.
I think so, everyone seems to be taking me more seriously now and I get compliments on my clothing.

fucking kek my dude

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It's not really minimalist though, I suppose if you play on a console physical games are going to be a thing, but really you don't need most of those magazines down there, when was the last time you played some of those games or watched those movies? If you don't use it, scrap it.
It is a very nicely organised shelf though user, your desk is nice and clutter free too, maybe try and find room for your PC on your floor if you can.

That's my goal honestly.
I want a small apartment in a nice location with minimal objects in it. Maybe just a futon, a small bookshelf, and the necessities. No computer, no TV, none of that shit. Seems like a comfy and clean aesthetic.

Just out of curiousity, where'd you take all your excess stuff? Did you sell it all online or what?

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Living frugally isn't necessarily minimalist. Minimalism is living with the essentials, and that varies from person to person.

Cheap furniture is about $10 used on OfferUp and Craigslist all the time. Going without a chair or table seems ridiculous, even as someone who gave most of their furniture away unless you live in an incredibly tight space. I need a place to work comfortably. I'm not screwing up my back over $10.

Netflix is one of the cheapest ways to go for entertainment, and there's no physical clutter if you stream online. for me, digital subscription services are a great idea.

As far as heat and air, I'm on the same boat, but only because I live in an area where the weather isn't too bad so I can get away with it.

Sold on apps (using offerup right now), ebay, craigslist, etc.
Given to goodwill
Just plain trashed
I need my laptop. It's my everything. Study, entertainment, work, fun, porn, information. Feels good man, all that in four pounds of metal and plastic.
>just sold one more item (I put together a pile in my final push)
>guy came in
>bro you could use some furniture
>nah brah
Floor is great man. Those japanese don't need no damn chairs. I have a floor-desk and lean against the wall.

There's a whole lot of total shit on this board but sometimes I read posts like this and know I'm in the right place.

Fucking this user. I still live with my parents, though. They're great people but we do have a bit much. I really want to move out and live a minimalist lifestyle.

I'd prefer blood flow to my legs. Sitting on the floor is very unpleasant for me past an hour; I'm at my desk to draw a lot.

Until I hit around 19 I was pretty uncaring. I had the zoomer attitude of "it has no functional difference" but I slowly realized the benefits of having less and keeping everything tidy. I would describe myself as functionally minimalist, I don't insist everything has to be hidden out of sight and I don't mind storage areas being 60% full as long as the items inside belong to me.

Even if there is no real mental benefit to keeping the bed made, I think I feel better. So it's a win win, it either is a real benefit or I've convinced myself. A lot of small tasks seem to help, I feel more serious when I'm in proper clothes so I shower and change into one of my four shirts and pants everyday. I sleep with underwear only, pajamas and loose pants make me feel slobbish.

I feel it's more a state of mind. For example I don't keep any browser history, I don't keep any files besides the ones I need, etc

Forgive the filter, the wall is clean but the paint isn't perfect.

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googled "konmari method" but I'm just getting pages and pages of listicle journoblog bullshit

please advise

It's a book, get it from the library.

that's not very minimalist

sounds like you are regressing in life and becoming a retarded simpleton

Never building a nest
>sounds good
Thats because the female that decorates yours is telling you she wants to stay for more of the good-you.