Men: what do you offer besides money, sperm, and protection?

Men: what do you offer besides money, sperm, and protection?

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No responses? That means men offer nothing.

basically nothing and I don't even offer two of those things. I'm not relationship material and I don't think a majority of people are but they get relationships anyways because they want them more than i do.

That is literally all women have ever required. Don't even attempt to deny it.

im not offering anything.

MGTOW is really a pathetic meme. It's really just a giant coping mechanism and anytime who says otherwise is delusional.

But doesnt it offend you if women want those things?

And??? Whats your problem with it? What else do men offer?

Amen

Please be my rich, sterile, wimpy BF!?!

what are you gonna do about it? nothing, because its not your decision.

They're funny when they're not totally retarded.

He wont answer because hes lying.

Let's just cut to the chase. What do you want men to offer you?

SOMEONE GIVE ME FREE STUFF JUST FOR BEING FEMALE.

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>And??? Whats your problem with it? What else do men offer?
The question is moot because we offer everything that women need. They're in no position to ask or anything else.

> money, sperm, and protection
The "men" on this board can only offer one of these things. Wanna guess which one? Here is a hint. Robots don't have job and can't fight.

An ass whoopin

Women take in far more welfare than men.
guess having that night with Tyrone wasn't so great when Tyrone Jr needs to go to the doctor again and Tyrone is 3 states away living under a different name.

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Be a good father (which makes men upset as evidenced by the OP)

Be a good provider (see above)

A protector (see above)

Love unconditionally

Loyalty

What I offer:

Good mother

A good job to supplement and to provide if needed

Submission (no BDSM bullshit)

Unconditional love

Loyalty.

And what is it?

You are not giving specific answers.

No most are infertile
And what do men offer

Yeah, I know right. Real men get divorced raped and spend time dealing with women's bullshit!

Not exactly unconditional love if you need all those conditions before you love a man.
Funny how that works out, innit?

I offer nothing, including all three listed, except for what I pay in taxes and whatever the organization I work for values in my work.

Don't have much faith in people these days. Rather be left to my own devices so long as I have the resources to provide for myself.

>You are not giving specific answers.
THE. QUESTION. IS. MOOT. THE. ANSWER. DOES. NOT. MATTER.
That "specific" enough for you, dumbass?

I provide emocional support until i get tired and then not.

>Money
>Babies
>Houses
Aren't those the three most important thing to women?

woman can work hard and make money, less and less want children and they can work out and take martial arts. so i think the only thing men can really offer you is what you lack most.

a personality.

This. Hey op, we may know eachother, go fuck yourself S

>Men: what do you offer besides money, sperm, and protection?
A peace of mind, hoe.

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Do not marry Stacy if you dont want to be divorce raped

Would you stay with your wife if she gained 100 lbs and abandoned the kids?

Ok

So the answer is nothing.

Men offer nothing.

And you believe that is good enough??

So?

No I want kids and a family and house.

No.

No you dont. Not peaceful if you call me a hoe.

I'm going to assume you are OP for this. Please let me know if you aren't

This list seems fair enough. However, and I'm not saying this to be an ass, what I'm understanding is that what you want is money (the ability to provide food and a home), sperm ( In order to have a child) and protection (security from threats physical, mental, and societal). Loyalty being a given since a relationship implies exclusivity and I'm assuming that's what we are talking about here.So basically you want that with a competent father figure available for the children right?

>what else can men offer
Men build the roads, we build houses, stores, and everything else.
That food you eat? Men grew it.
That water you drink? Men made it safe to drink.
The power you need to use the computer to complain online that men offer very little? Made by a man. Men made the computer you're using too.
Perfection from criminals and foreign threats? Almost all cops and troops are men.
Dumb. Fuck.

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>Do not marry Stacy if you dont want to be divorce raped
>not knowing that AWALT and it's not just confined to certain types of women

Yes. The horror.

Fuck off they got paid. I do a job which serves society but I dont delude myself that I am a hero. Any of those men working those jobs would easily be replaced by 5 other applicants, both male and female, especially in this economy.

I'd help her loose the weight and find out why she was abandoning the kids.
If it's some awful reason like she was abusing them or some shit then that's grounds for a divorce, because I can't have my kids harmed.

Do tell what exactly you do that's so much more useful to society than the ones who form the literal backbone of it.

> unconditional love.

Men stop loving their wives the moment she turns 40

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Men were the vast majority of industrial labor in history, men take care of waste disposal, construction, engineering, probably the worst thing is corporatism, and well that was inevitable.

I work full time as a nurse practitioner. You can thank me for not having an infectious disease.

If construction work paid $120k a year, I would do it too.

If you pay women to do it, they would do it too.

Yes, those lucky ducks who get to clear out shit clogs in the sewer, who break their backs growing food, who mine coal and oil, who make everything that makes your life possible.
And don't delude yourself into thinking a female military is viable. The vast majority can barely keep up with the men on a march.

>you can thank me for not having an infectious disease
>nurse practitioner
Alright you got me, good b8, I r8 it 8/10 m8.

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It takes a certain willingness to do jobs that noone else will, have you ever seen Bear gryll's island series?

IF THEY PAID $120k A YEAR I WOULD DO THEM TOO AND I AM A WOMAN.

>full time nurse practitioner
>posting on r9k
Great bait mate, I rate 8/8.

Well, it's illegal to pay women less, and jobs are always open in the sector.
So why aren't women applying?
I'm sorry you think sewer work is below you.

Mgtow is effectively men nobody wants convincing themselves they're not rejects by cherry picking the worst case scenario risks in relationships and presenting them as justifications for staying single. Not to mention the terrible attention seeking.

It's embarrassing. Shut the fuck up and have some dignity.

Nope. Real

Because I make $120k a year as a nurse practitioner.

You can thank me for not having syphilis

is me and I'll use a name for easier recognition

In regards to what men offer outside of money, sperm, and protection if that isn't enough, is that men offer the position of father in a family as you said you wanted. They provide a balance in conjunction with a mother that traditionally provide a balance for raising children. In a crude way is right. In the world as it is right now a man offers hard labor. While both genders can labor, men are in the position of being the go to's for this kind of work and on the whole have more muscle to take care of it.

also has a point in that it is mostly men that provide for most nations securities. Men provide this and are more willing to as most societies expect men to be soldiers

In the end, while there are examples of these jobs being done by both genders. Men offer a more convenient source of labor for these jobs and due to that creates a society where women don't have to if they don't want to. In terms of wages that's more of a economic and political topic rather than a gender topic.

I would like to hear if anyone has any questions or counter points though

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Something tells me they wouldn't

Making children is literally what women were created for you dumbass

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>Mgtow is effectively men nobody wants convincing themselves they're not rejects
False. Plenty of MGTOW are guys who got divorce raped or burned in previous relationships.
>cherry picking the worst case scenario risks in relationships and presenting them as justifications for staying single.
They happen more often than you'd think. I mean c'mon, do you honestly think modern women are the worth the time?
>Not to mention the terrible attention seeking.
This I actually agree with. Although you can also view it as advice or simply sharing experiences so other men won't go through the same things.
>It's embarrassing. Shut the fuck up and have some dignity.
It's simply having a different perspective. There's nothing embarrassing at all about wanting to avoid relationships. Not everyone wants that.

Emotional support, big dick, friends that aren't phonies, humor, vidya gaems. I could name more if you'd like

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what does it matter what else i can offer, these are the only things taht are important to women. not saying thats wrong, whatever a woman does is her choice and all taht shit. a girl can have anything a guy can offer her and they wont stop rubbing taht in their faces, again, more power to them. i dont have to remind u where we are, but we all know how girls look at guys whoa rent chads. all in all, im too old and tired to care about the opinions of women who wouldnt look twice at me

I don't think it's a meme but it's definitely a coping mechanism. Let's be honest with ourselves now. Dating of 2018 is a complete shit show.

1.Muscle power to do things like move moving boxes
2. What do women have to offer besides babies?

to have a gf that's willing to be held during sleep. also to know where the fuck my ultra moon cartidge went. also skill in fps.

Now that I think about it, most people want to be loved granted, but why do you want men to offer anything else? Why do you want men to offer you a father position, providence, and protection?

>Plenty of MGTOW are guys who got divorce raped or burned in previous relationships.

So... Men nobody wants who can't maintain healthy relationships?

>They happen more often than you'd think.

Yeah, people make poor choices and / or break up. Life goes on and being a whinging faggot about it is boring.

>I mean c'mon, do you honestly think modern women are the worth the time?

Most of us don't seem to have a problem with them, and if we do, we move on ajd get over it.

>There's nothing embarrassing at all about wanting to avoid relationships.

What's embarrassing is being a pathetic, attention seeking bitch about it. Don't want a GF, marriage, fine... Want to take every opportunity to moan about it - absolutely embarrassing.

How many times are you going to fail to accept I'm not the medical user?

You're pretty fucking dumb, aren't you? No wonder you're struggling with how people can have a job and be able to post.

>So... Men nobody wants who can't maintain healthy relationships?
They got into relationships, so they were wanted. It's absurd to think that just because it ended it's entirely the guy's fault and that's a sign he's undesirable. Relationships can end for a whole bunch of different reasons.
>Yeah, people make poor choices and / or break up. Life goes on and being a whinging faggot about it is boring.
People go through shit and react to it. MGTOW is a just a reaction to the current state and nature of the dating market/women.
>Most of us don't seem to have a problem with them, and if we do, we move on ajd get over it.
Except you can't simply get over it some of the time because some of this stuff can affect you legally or ruin your life. MGTOW is just raising awareness.
>What's embarrassing is being a pathetic, attention seeking bitch about it. Don't want a GF, marriage, fine... Want to take every opportunity to moan about it - absolutely embarrassing.
Agreed 100%. I think you're describing different things here. When I'm talking MGTOW I simply mean the core idea of avoiding relationships and recognizing things are rigged against men. The guys who bitch about women all the time are indeed insufferable.

if you still care I have no money and can't protect anyone, but as far as I know I'm not sterile.

>women are only incubators by that logic

>But doesnt it offend you if women want those things?
Lol who gives a fly1ng fuck w4t w0m3n want dey can smoek mai poel

In reality most MGTOW are either men who have already been used by women and now decide they have had enough in which case they are already cucks who lost the game, or are men who would never get a women in the first place and are thus irrelevant. It's when functioning, high value men in society that start dropping out that it will become a problem. Which won't be a while, because as long as you are above average you have more than your fair share of women to go around. The idea of a wealthy but otherwise unnattractive man deciding to remain bachelor indefinitely is hardly a new thing, and not worthy of being a political movement. It's these strange attention seeking men who want it to seem like it's some huge rebellion against society that just turns the whole thing in to a joke.

Nigga MGTOW is playing the long game of saying fuck you to roasties, unless they are the kind to focus on a career alongside fucking chad, once they hit the wall it'll be harder for them to find a beta bux provider.

Like I said, this has been going on for quite a while. Men with money but nothing else realizing that any women interested in them would only be so for their money choosing to remain alone. As long as submissive beta-bux continues to provide safety for those who missed the timing to be Chads trophy wife, nothing will ever change. When Chad chooses to stop slaying (unlikely) or beta-bux Bills stop being sissies (even more unlikely), then women will worry. Until then, MGTOW just continues to shout it's irrelevance to the world.

yall are delusional as fuck

thats some woefully low quality b8 m8

lol we don't owe those bitches a damn thing.

However, men do get shit done without needing an emotional circle jerk. We at least have that going for us.

It's so relaxing knowing that any of this stupid shit involving females and relationships will never be your problem.

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Lmao a female thinks she could do hard labor 5 days a week

mgtow Its basically Beta coping.
Yes, some women are shit. Yes, some men are shit. That doesnt mean that you can't engage a meaningful relation in your life if you treat a woman right.
Also: 'treating her right' does not mean some faggy Bruno Mars shit, but how you treat a girl so she says with you. And that includes clear articulation of what you want from her and why you want her in particular.

MGTOW is mostly ugly dudes who were so spineless and boring that their wife ran away to suck chads cock.
Guess what, if you are Chad, that stuff won't happen!

I agree with the sentiment that the vast majority of the movement is a pathetic meme. The constant need to focus on (some) women and their actions, assuming the worst in everything outside their group (especially women and men in relationships), the desire to continuously spout their rather skewed opinions as if they're enlightened messages in need of spreading; it all just seems like a clusterfuck of frustrated men not actually going their own way but trying to convince themselves that living life as a bachelor is the best thing possible for everyone - themselves in particular - without actually enjoying it at all. The whole focus on hate and resentment from the vocal majority just makes the whole group seem like shitty "incels".

That said, I'm all for men actually going their own way when they don't like the (perceived) risks, effort, or bias that may come with the average or bad-case scenario relationships.
If other people want to still date and be happy, good on them. If others are willing to nigh-guaranteed deal with added drama in their lives, it's their choice.
I prefer to avoid the risk of ending up in a mediocre relationship, I'm enjoying my bachelor life as I can easily avoid most sources of negative stimulus without issue, I can spend my money exactly how I want without having to consider someone else's life as potential financial drain, and I don't have to worry about drama hitting me without the ability to just walk away from that source of drama.
I enjoy living my life single, and have some successful friends enjoying similar lives, without the need to hate people for choosing a different lifestyle. To each their own; a sentiment that seems severely lacking with MGTOW's vocal members, and what makes them a pathetic meme in my opinion.

I ain't offering you shit, faggot

woah

original

Companionship, access to a good family, laughter, orgasms, and good cooking. Also, money, sperm, and protection.
Fuck feminism and fuck MGTOW.
MARRY AND REPRODUCE

Mgtow makes sense if youre ugly. Women are nothing but trouble in youre life if youre unattractive.

I can fix your computer for a cheap price.

What do women offer besides being a hole?

Sucking off a non virgin man is like using someone else's toothbrush

Don't worry. Human population is still increasing.
Save your worries for a time when it will decline.

Because having a 40 year old wife makes men feel old. Men don't love women. They just love the way women make them feel.
Men have Peter Pan syndrome and want to remain young forever. Men hate feeling old.

I have the power of being a dank edgy ganweed memer (teleports behind chad)

Men are attention whores that's why they have MGTOW. When women avoid men and dating they simply avoid men and dating. Women don't invent labels and terms to draw attention to themselves. They simply continue live their lives without men.
Men on the other hand stomp their feet and scream that they're MGTOW to get attention.
Men are vapid, hollow and narcissistic.

Acknowledge and validate that you simply exist. So you won't feel like you live in vain. Which is completely not true.

Life and relationships are not transactions. Not in the new world and in the future where we as a human race are flourishing and visiting other planets.
In that reality relationship between men and women are equal, childlike play and comfort of each other, exchange of ideas and perspectives while still working together and even more still being equally individuals.

In this moment in time we are living half a life. A limbo state between old stone age ideas and instincts that are becoming more unbearable for a modern world to live by. Things of these nature, like protests agiesnt a provider gatherer idea, are bubbling up to the surface of our society.
While feminists actually protest the same thing from their point of view.
Though the sad part is that still many people just want to live the old way of assertive man and passive woman. But no one wants to say that that is true. They just want to get away with that lifestyle under the cover of strong independent woman and MGTOW actually want to be a protector father buy will cover it up with MGTOW as far as they can. Which they could do longer than what women can try to suppress their mother and nurturing role.

But these are instincts and the war inside our head and amongst each other outwardly in a society. These aggressive man roles and nurturing female roles and the revolting groups.
We can't live like cavemen acting on instincts but in a 2018 world with iPhone and new evolving technology and spirituality. And we can't oppose each others genders. We have to find a middle that tales us more forward than to just get to he next iPhone upgrade.
We have to look further.

as a rad fem this is extremely based. i imagine there are definitely chads out there being pressured to marry some chick and ~settle down~ when they shouldn't have to, or they may not want to.

I don't offer anything nothing is free in this world

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