>The acronym for ""Not in Education, Employment, or Training"
>Hikikomori
>The term Hikikomori comes from Japan, meaning: A shut-in that does not leave their home or bedroom for prolonged periods usually for about 6 months or longer. Most Hikikomori are also Neet although, technically if you are employed remotely at home but still do not leave your house/room for months or even years at a time you are still A hikikomori (but not a NEET.)
>A NEET isn't necessarily a Hikikomori nor vice versa. You could be a Hikikomori NEET. But if you are a NEET that does spend a moderate amount of time outside your house/room you are still a NEET but you are not a Hikikomori.
I have been a shut-in neet hermit since age 16, I am turning 31 soon.
I have spent most of it in my room, but I do goto other rooms in the house, and I do sometimes go for walks during the day or at night when nobody is around.
I only started seeing Doctors/Mental health professionals at 30 in 2017, first time since age 16, other than that I have not been anywhere else other than the above mentioned walks here and there around my area.
I guess I am considered just a Shut-In NEET Hermit, and not a Hikikomori? Does the Hikki have to specifically been in the room and not have left the room?
I don't know about that, most of the Hikkis Ive seen in the documentaries have mostly only been that way for 6-12 months, not 10+ years.
Aaron Watson
>I guess I am considered just a Shut-In NEET Hermit, and not a Hikikomori? Does the Hikki have to specifically been in the room and not have left the room?
The degree of the phenomenon varies on an individual basis, However in the most extreme cases, some people remain in isolation for years or even decades a Hikikomori can still leave the house for food or to take walk i'm a Hikikomori i leave the house once a month for groceries and once or twice every other week for fast food and i go to the doctor once a year.
>Why are you a Neet or a Hikikomori Jow Forums? I think I am genuinely too retarded to properly function in society. I got fired from 3 jobs, the longest one went for one month. I can't go to college because my grades are shit. I can barely help around the house. My parents have completly given up on me, the only think they ask of me is to do groceries, some chores and give half of my neetbux. So I guess it makes me a neet since I do leave the house every so often-
Can't stop endlessly going back and forth between suicidal nihilism and feeling like I'm gonna make it and wanting to get my shit together.
Moved abroad hoping I could just get away from everything and reinvent myself but here I am spending all my time in my room, wasting all my savings
Blake Clark
>why are you NEET Anxiety and I'm easily stressed. I don't hate work, just the stress that comes with working with people and deadlines.
I'm trying to get my act together now after 3 years of living the NEET life.
Jonathan Lewis
>want to leave my room and do fun things like a normal person >get horrible anxiety thinking about it even though I keep telling myself it's all in my head
How can a room be so comforting yet so unhealthy and depressing at the same time?
>tfw after thinking about it for 3 years you think you're truly at the root of all your problems >know what I need to do to get better >but my time as a NEET has run out
Juan Bennett
>9 months neet >finally got a job but only work twice a week >dont work enough to make much money >work is stressful enough to ruin all my free time
>the work or education ultimatum makes its return Apparently otherwise I have to have a doctor tell me I'm too disabled to work, like that every happens outside of perusing disability. I wish I just had a fortune stored away so I could live in some shitty apartment for the rest of my life. I feeling so behind on life and I hate these pushes to move forward that ultimately change nothing, even if they're probably well intended. It feels like being punished for not existing well enough
Jordan Reed
Maybe I can help some of you out. I became a total shut in for about 1.5 years after a 2.5 year relationship that ended when I found out about a bunch of cheating she had done. I had fucking pretty much zero confidence, my place was a mess and was living in my moms basement and all I did outside of work was vidya and drink like a fish.
Avoid being a shut in cuz that shit will kill your soul. I recently went back to school and am establishing my own career, currently 23 and on track to be clearing ~120k a year before I'm 30. I got a great place recently with two roomies and I've been way more active, even just walking around my neighbourhood helps me think and feel like less of a fat bastard. Started hanging out with someone I knew from way back in school so I at least have some friends. I've gone on a few dates with a total qt who has a heart of gold.
I'm no Chad but I know what it's like to feel like a depressed mess. There is hope anons, just make the choice to start living your life the way you want to, set goals for yourself and work for them. No one is gonna magically drop a gf in your lap, focus on making YOU better and you'll see the ladies come, and stay. Believe in yourselves
Jack Hill
I think I understand the deadline bit. My stress levels just spike up and I feel like I can only run efficiently in a relaxed state. Stress sensitivity might as well be a condition in my eyes, because shit people don't bat an eye at would break me down nearly completely
Ian Nelson
>I became a total shut in for about 1.5 years after a 2.5 year relationship that ended when I found out about a bunch of cheating she had done
GET OUT NORMALFAG YOURE NORMAL LEAVE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.
Come on now part of why I love this place is because it's a nice break from usual board dynamics. This guy seems well intentioned even if his problems differ from full neet/hikki stuff. It's not like what he went through doesn't sound rough either
Gavin Wilson
>There's no out, is there.
Indeed.
Juan Perry
>Why are you a Neet or a Hikikomori Jow Forums? I'm not even sure, I guess because of issues developed from bullying. I just stopped going to school and very quickly became afraid and mistrusting of people. I've mostly gotten over that but I still dread having to go outside where I will be around others, I know I'm pathetic and not normal and I feel judged whenever I do, I get anxious just thinking about it. I don't know why I'm like this, I don't mind people anymore and know rationally that they're generally friendly and not out to get me like I used to think, though I still avoid them as much as possible. It's been several years now since I last went anywhere in public.
Justin Myers
Should I join the military for the rest of my life particularly something front line and dangerous like infantry, medic, combat engineer, EOD? I'm a NEET. I don't really value my life and care if a die. You just follow orders and get free housing, healthcare, and a paycheck. I just don't want to be dependent on my parents.
life is simply too difficult for me, I'd get a job if one landed in my lap but I'd probably just fuck it up. I much rather take it easy
Nolan Sanchez
How to do a CV and cover letter fellow NEET.
Camden Brown
I guess I'm hikikomori but not NEET. I'm in college and specifically choose classes I can do remotely and only show up for exams. Spend all day in my 1-person dorm room. Leave for food once or twice a day
Samuel Butler
Is that your blog?
John Scott
You are not hikikomori
Eli Martin
>I'm in college
You're not a hikikomori idiot.
Matthew Gomez
>Is that your blog?
Yes
Cooper Johnson
>>they immediately ask what experience I have and why I've been unemployed for so long this is a sign that you have to steer clear of them if they ask this question to you, it means they don't want to use resources to train you on the job, no matter how much of a help you end up being to them after that.
John Sullivan
>was a hikimori for over 4 years >now a neet, but being a degenerate with drugs, strippers and fist fights with random people And this shit happens daily, how do i fix myself at 25? Is it too late?
Blake Roberts
>Why are you a Neet or a Hikikomori Jow Forums? I couldn't handle real life, i kept being told it would get better without being told how to make it better so when it never did (middle school, highschool, college, vocational school, my first job) i just gave up on lifeso i could hide. I burned through all my savings and skipped out on paying back the schools until I got stuck inpatient. Now im comically in debt to several places and back home in a place with no jobs at all (not that i could get one when i lived in a bigger population area).
Connor Morgan
Maybe it'll get better in prison. It's a good place for a lot of thinking. You get a ton of free time.
John Harris
>Maybe it'll get better in prison. It's a good place for a lot of thinking. You get a ton of free time. thinking doesn't do anything beneficial and you can't go to prison for debt in the usa to my knowledge. If you can i'll just kill myself
Yeah it is, Asanagi got pissed that someome made bootleg meme shirts with his art, so he made his own.
Brayden Mitchell
But did Kojima really wear it too?
Anthony James
>no computer >trapped in a cage with violent mentality ill criminals doesnt sound comfy
Carter Campbell
>you can't go to prison for debt in the usa what 4 realz? I find it strange since you can go to jail if you owe 120k+ to the state
Levi Gutierrez
That's not Kojima that's hideo
Chase Davis
Originalitaly yes
Evan Flores
There's not much I want out of society, and I'm fortunate enough to live in one of the best countries for welfare. I've had girlfriends, gotten promotions, belonged to groups like a weekly Latin dance class. Rode a motorcycle (only a 250 nighthawk but still...)
I just found being around others exhausting. I didn't like being part of a family even, so I just shut myself off to play video games, watch stuff, eat crap food, and sleep.
I have no problems going to buy groceries, or taking walks - but my walks are usually around midnight - not because I can't sleep, but because no one's out that time of night. Rarely I'll be invited into a party in a game, and I'll join the discord, but it's typically a one-off and I don't talk much.
Dylan Brooks
I feel like I'm somewhere on the NEET/Hikomori spectrum despite being neither. I work very part time, under 10 hours a week, and usually between the hours of 5am-8am. I'm typically home before other wageslaves leave the house and don't really interact with anyone in my job. The rest of the time I tend to spend indoors. In other people's eyes, I may as well be an unemployed shut in. Do I have any place in this thread?
Luis Reyes
>Do I have any place in this thread?
No go back to your wagecuck threads you're in employment retard.you're not a Neet and you leave the house regularly not a Hikikomori ether.
Levi Garcia
I speak with basically no one and society treats me as a total drop out. I might have different experiences to you but I'm sure the feels are exactly the same.
Elijah Long
>Why are you a Neet or a Hikikomori Jow Forums?
Because mental health reasons, I was under a lot of stress and then I had a violent home invasion and I just didnt go outside once for 2 years. I go out once a month to NEETbux meetings now though... I never go out if I dont have to, and I get sick when I have to talk to people outside that are relevant to me (social workers ect) Out is killing yourself and I think most of us will do that.. we cant get out of this hole.
Ary? You became depressed ect because you broke up with a GF, you had it in you to be normal and happy. Your advice wont help those that are just flat out defective.
Zachary Butler
OP thanks for making a NEET hikki thread. Sad that some people dont get what a hikki is ect...
>I feel like I'm somewhere on the NEET/Hikomori spectrum
> I work very part time, under 10 hours a week,
Why is it so hard tio udnerstand a hikki DOESNT go outside unless needed for surivival and that doesnt mean working.
>Why is it so hard tio udnerstand a hikki DOESNT go outside unless needed for surivival and that doesnt mean working. It's not hard to understand, I understand it find and explicitly said I wasn't one. That said see , I'm sure as fuck closer to this than I am normality or anything. Feels bad being an outsider from both perspectives desu
Oliver Hill
>I speak with basically no one and society treats me as a total drop out. I might have different experiences to you but I'm sure the feels are exactly the same.
>work >go outside >feelz are the same?
Well some of us get sick when we go outside, we are also in a hole where suicide is the only option aside from being homeless.
how are the feelz the same? you know what its like to be disconnected from society? you know what it is like to not reconize your own city when you do go outside because it changed so much while you where shut in?
>we are also in a hole where suicide is the only option aside from being homeless I was in this whole for the better part of 5 years. Why do you think I live like I do? I still have issues with feeling an hero. >you know what its like to be disconnected from society? For the most part yeah. I might see the buildings more often than you, but I speak to no one.
As I keep saying I'm neither NEET or Hikki and I'm not trying to be. I'm just looking for a place where other people feel as alienated as I do. I guess I'm not even welcome among outsiders, which is a real shame honestly. Have a good day
Isaac Gray
>guess I'm not even welcome among outsiders
Actually, you are not welcome in the NEET/Hikki thread. plenty of otehr threads for you.
actual Hikkis get annoyed when people say they are a hikki and they are not
>For the most part yeah. I might see the buildings more often than you, but I speak to no one. Imagine not understanding the world around you as it has changed while you where not looking. imagine getting sick when you go outside, and not even being able to eat outside as you cant.
im sorry that you are lonely... I made a thread for you man. Hikkis are lonely anyway unless they magically have friends somehow...
>Actually, you are not welcome in the NEET/Hikki thread. I mean I was only ever asking desu, wasn't coming here like HEY GUYS I AM ONE OF YOU LEL but yeah I get your point. That does sound like a hard time and I can relate on some level, just from times where I was in a worse place than I am now, but perhaps not to the same extent. Hope things get easier for you someday. Might post in that thread later on, cheers
Lincoln Stewart
>Actually, you are not welcome in the NEET/Hikki thread.
I know right i actually wrote an entire rant about that.
I never said I was a hikki, in fact I explicitly said I'm not. What I asked was if my situation warranted posting in this thread, and I got my answer to that.
Samuel Evans
I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS NO LEEWAY WHEN IT COMES TO THIS HIKKI THING, BUT GOD DAMN! DID YOU HAVE TO BULLY THE KID? YOU EVEN MADE A THREAD FOR HIM TO F*CK OFF TOO? THATS PRETTY RUDE
Mason Torres
S'alright I'm thick skinned but thanks for the thought all the same. Don't want to intrude on something so glad they were forward about how they felt. Will be going back to lurking once this has blown over.
Camden Kelly
thought about doing the same but get a real job first bevor you quit and become a pawn.
remember you cant do drugs in the military.
Jason Adams
hey, read pic related it wouldnt let me post man. yeah I made a thread to be nice man, Ifeel bad and I feel he wants to chat to lonely anons.. all hikkis are lonely or alone anyway, so its not a bad idea.
Hey I found out why it does this. Its some new update from a while back that automatically changes your apostrophe which should just be a standard symbol. Just delete that and its good to post.
Eli Myers
Gunjyguy#4537
man, can you add me please
thanks man for helping a robot
John Watson
Lainchan isn't for us at all, it's for people into tech/cyberpunk/SEL and they generally reject Jow Forums culture since most of them have friends and sex lives.
Jaxon Hughes
Just quickly wanted to say as a non-hikikomori lurker who enjoys reading about the phenomenon (because I've been very close to it at times) that this is a great blog and I appreciate the work you're doing.
I'll show myself out now but I'm going to bookmark your site.
William Parker
>Just quickly wanted to say as a non-hikikomori lurker who enjoys reading about the phenomenon (because I've been very close to it at times) that this is a great blog and I appreciate the work you're doing. >I'll show myself out now but I'm going to bookmark your site.
Thank you very much user.
Cameron Russell
Anyone settled into being a hikki.??
Josiah Miller
me, i even got a hikki bf
Zachary Gutierrez
>i even got a hikki bf
Fuck off
Henry Roberts
i dont know why youre so hostile, having a bf doesnt exclude me from beiing a hikkineet
>horny beta virgin >yet didn't want to fug quite yet because i was nervous so the chick pins me down instead and tries to force my cock inside of her instantly noped out >dunno how close my penis came to her vagina or if it went in it all goes black from that point on >I dropped out of HS because of being accused of rape despite being raped >pretty much ruined my life from that point onward now i'm 25 close to being homeless close to being an alcoholic dropout jobless waste of skin.
Benjamin Edwards
>having a bf doesnt exclude me from beiing a hikkineet
Unless the relationship is online yes it does.
Dylan Richardson
your gatekeeping definitions dont say that relationships are forbidden though and we dont go out
Charles Diaz
NEET here god damnit I thought I was hiki for a while but that definition is INCREDIBLE I didn't know this shit happened anywhere even Japan WWOOOOWWW 6months literally a while 6 months without leaving your room I wish you well guys holy shit
>6months literally a while 6 months without leaving your room I wish you well guys holy shit
That's only in the more extreme cases.
Zachary Howard
Its alot easier than you think. For some of me, I just don't feel compatible with society, so I've been cooped up in my room being somewhat happy. I might have it easier than some hikkis since my family brings me food once or twice a month and i have my own bathroom so i don't need to use piss jugs
Gavin Gray
I went 2 years but now its monthly as I HAVE to for NEETbux.
REEEEE FUCKING NORMALFAG jk this actually gave me hope big ups for making it
Ryan Brown
I do not believe this makes you a hikki, but this might leave you at risk to become one. Best of luck to you in your college endeavors and onward my friend
Oliver Butler
I just went on the uboa board, it's really slow though and there can be a lot of fruitless advicefagging. I'd like to find one that isn't too r9k-ish because I feel like the board culture here doesn't make for very good neet/hikki discussion. Thankfully though these threads are pretty good in that regard mostly
