Males Pyschologists are a meme

Talking about your feelings with someone who understands actually is healthy for you. That part is not psuedoscience.

The problem is therapists don't understand. They're just there for money and would have no problem reporting you to the cops if you say the wrong thing. You can't open with them.

Don't be an idiot. Opening up to people on r9k is only going to get you doxxed. Internet people tend to be nasty.

Clinical Psychologists charge a little extra. I pay $180 and get back $125 from the gov within 48 hours.

Theyre helpful for 1 thing, disability. You can't get disability for mental health reasons without evidence from Clinical Psychologist or Psychiatrist.

I mean this whole board is a general ""help"" board/make fun of ourselves and problems. As long as you don't provide username/email/name/ip/location etc you'll be fine

it's normie advice and normie emotional hand-holding for normies that can't into introspection

Stay closed up and broken if you want faggot.

This board is detrimental for your mental health. It's all trap/sissy shit, orbiting, shitposting, and people telling each other to kill themselves

Better than "well maybe you should try harder" "be yourself" *reports you as a threat to yourself/others*

LMFT here, you Robots are some of the most frustrating cases.

>Hey user, what do you want to set as a goal?
>"I want to go out, meet women, have a life." etc
>Ok, let's try doing those things!
>"Oh, but I don't want to change anything about my life." :^(
>Aaand that's that, do you have $20 for your co-pay?

You guys are fun to watch though. I like this forum.

True. Feels like there is no one in the worle who can help you.

>Talking about your feelings with someone who understands actually is healthy for you. That part is not psuedoscience.
So Jow Forums is actually healthy for you.

>True. Feels like there is no one in the worle who can help you.
There is. (You).

What is an LMFT?

I like my current Clinical Psychologist because she has a soothing voice and talks to me calmly and nicely, which is really good for me because

1. This is the only time I get to talk to a female
2. This is the only experience I get being spoken calmly to
3. This is the only experience I have being fully honest with someone in real life

It might not do much to help my problems but its a nice experience to have

Its so addicting having someone talk to you in a calm and caring manner, I have never experience it before until going to a female psychologist

>wymyn thurrupists r bettur then men thurrupists
no, they're both retarded fucking double-digit IQ normies

i hope that in the future, they're obliged to be injected with some kind of chip in their brain, as part of their training, that simulates every possible debilitating mental condition, and are forced to live with each and every single one of these, for 1 week each

without actual understanding, there is no way to really help a person

>I had 1 guy literally tell me that the 15 years ( 15-30) Ive spent as a shut-in neet hermit "doesn't even matter bro, just leave the house bro, get a job bro haha its easy".

Redpill time: He's completely fucking right.

I went from having not stepped past my front door in a straight decade to full time employment in a dead-end minimum wage job. I hated work but just the task of needing to maintain a daily schedule, eat sleep and shower regularly improved my physical and mental health in less than a month.

Personal time at home became a finite resource and that actually made it valuable. Before, I pissed away entire days, entire weeks, entire months doing next to nothing but staring at Jow Forums and youtube all day. Employed, the idea of spending my 6 hours after work doing that became pure insanity, and I found myself engaging in hobbies that I'd ignored for years. Weekends actually meant something and became enjoyable again. 'It's Friday Night Motherfucker' became a real feeling.

Get a fucking job, OP. And that goes for the rest of you NEET shut-ins who think this is bullshit normie advice from people who don't know what it's like to be in your situation.

It's not.

>works a dead-end minimum wage job
>hates it
>coming back here is pure insanity
>still shitposts here

yeah you're a great role model, and someone whose advice should be taken seriously

Stay a depressed faggot who makes shitty threads on imageboards then

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I dont beleive you

How did you actually pass the interview with zero employment history and zero references?

How do you get to your job without a drivers license? Oh you have one?

Seems youre leaving a lot of information out. Normalfag.

>coming back here is pure insanity
>still shitposts here

Only while the paint is drying on my miniatures, user. One of those old hobbies I suddenly found myself able to enjoy again.

why are you even going to a therapist? you get mad at a male therapist for telling you to un-fuck your pathetic life. what do you want, someone to tell you that it's not your fault, as you continue to fester and fail?

>How did you actually pass the interview with zero employment history and zero references?

The 'interview' for data entry is 'show us how fast you can type' and 'dont have a criminal record'.

They employ 3rd world immigrants here, they'll employ anyone.

>How do you get to your job without a drivers license?

Why would I need a driver's license to get to a place 5 miles away?

Also, getting a driver's license is easy as piss, especially in America.

you want a change in your mental state without changing your lifestyle. You are a therapists nightmare and you probably exaggerated the bro tier advice thing. Sorry if you actually have a shitty therapist, find a new one.

Because he's full of shit. Working hard makes you tired, not happy. I've been working full time since 2007 and it has destroyed my body and mind.

>you want a change in your mental state without changing your lifestyle.

This is the fundamental fucking problem.

People think their mental state is gonna change just by being told something. They don't think they're actually going to have DO something and take real, physical action.

They think they can change their lives without actually changing their lives.

The reality is that that they all secretly want to be able to stay at home shitposting all day while a hot girl comes and fills the role of their mother.

>working hard
>data entry

My job is easy as piss, I can do it in my sleep. I hate it because the pay is shit and I'm surrounded by 3rd world human garbage.

Here's the basic gestalt OP:
ALL female psychomemeists are trash. In fact the majority are downright evil.
Many male psychomemeists try to help but only due to a sense of professionalism, they don't actually care and don't actually have the capacity to help.
Most male psychomemeists are shit but at least virtually none of them are downright evil the way the women are.
Evil means breaking the law for a chance to mock someone by sharing information protected by doctor-patient privilege with people who aren't allowed to have that information.

Significant lifestyle changes require money. Money to move, money to gain skills, money to solve whatever medical problems you have.

Most people sit and bitch without doing anything because that's all they can do.

Over 80% of psychologists are women. Women are on average less intelligent than men.

Based on those two premises alone, male psychologists that enter the workforce, get their license and muster a sizeable clientele are statistically significantly better than female psychologists, based on the invisible hand of the market.

Ergo, your anecdotes do not mean anything.

Lemme hit you with one of me own, I have an MSc in evolutionary psychology, an MSc in computational neuroscience and I am working on my PhD dissertation on computational phylogenetics. I have spent some 10 years in academia, my personal experience has been that men are leagues above females in these disciplines.

My anecdote versus yours.

>tfw told my therapist would give me normal advice
>tfw he is giving me horrible non-normie advice
pls help

>he is giving me horrible non-normie advice
Example?

You like the females more because you're a pussy and relate to them better. Kys.

What do you like about your therapist the most? How, in your experience, does therapy help you? What would a therapist need to do to be succesful?

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>i have trouble approaching women
>user i think you should try sucking some dick. then maybe even take it in the ass. it's called exposure therapy. that way, when you've done a lot of gay shit, your brain will try to compensate by making you super straight and you'll feel forced to pursue women to prove to yourself that you aren't really gay

>Significant lifestyle changes require money.

It costs nothing to exercising.

It's about changing thought patterns.

1- nothing, they've all been horrible
2- not in the slightest, even when I try exactly what they tell me not once, not twice, but 7 times, when I tell them their shit didn't work and even tell them in great details everything I did exactly, they tell me I'm making things up and I never tried.
3- give advice that actually works and not pretend that if it doesn't work it's because I'm making things up

Unfortunately it didn't cost you your life to be clinically retarded either.

>be me
>be child sexual abuse survivor
>tell male therapist that
>"interesting, and who did this?"
>interesting, really nigga
>"my aunt."
>"are you sure you were raped?"
>"yeah."
>"are you really sure?"
>"pretty sure."
At least female therapists believed me before offering normie advice.

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>be me
>decide to finally see a therapist after years of depression/suicide
>am warned ahead of time by a friend not to reveal suicidal tendencies
regret even going.

>1st session
>1 hour of being interviewed on shit i could have filled out a form for instead

>2nd session
>talking about how i felt that week, he pulls out the DSM-5 halfway through the conversation and starts trying to diagnose me with ADHD and a shitton of other stuff that doesnt apply to me
im distracted/absent-minded a lot because im too depressed to even process anything else. not because i have ADHD.

>3rd-6th session
>starting to sink in that this isnt going anywhere, in all these sessions the only thing hes done is basically tell me to google some breathing exercises to help with panic attacks

>6 month mark
"hey user lets have you get a psych eval"
>have eval with someone else
>they spend an hour and a half basically going over what i already went over in the past 6 months with my therapist
cont?

Sounds like you are a massive fucking faggot. Everyone has mental issues, the meaning of adulthood is finding out how to cope/hide them you fucking child.

Yeah i bets its good till sje eats you alive with her labia majora

Fucked my female psych up the ass.
Insurance covered everything.
Definetly no problem with female therapists.

>cont?
No desu senpai, we all know how this is going to go because it's been the same for every single last one of us. Therapist is another word for scam artist. Or perhaps the rapist.

I am more myself and open on imageboards than with anyone in RL.

I can only bee myself on the internet, I am more real here.

Sounds like you are a massive fucking faggot. Everyone has debt, the meaning of adulthood is finding out how to pay/hide it you fucking child.

Mine might be only $1,000 and yours might be $100,000 but it's the same thing lmao. Fucking kids I swear. Just grow up already.

>Or perhaps the rapist.
It's apt. They rape your wallet.

honestly, the main reason to see a doctor for your mental problems is that it will support you getting autismbux if you need it.

>ctrl+f mental illness not found
your anecdotes don't apply to everyone.
why didn't you just skip out of work after 3 days of starting? where did the motivation to keep going come from? really you shouldn't speak as if you know what the fuck you're talking about. it makes you look dumb.

What kind of advice would work for you?

i had a male psychiatrist who they are still trying to force me to see tell me to fucking lift. 430 usd and all i got was troll advice i got for free on Jow Forums.

Why would you want a lame normie male psych or therapist when you could get a hottie female psych or therapist who you don't want to let down?
Seeking mental health help from attractive women (assuming you're a straight man) is gr8 because you want to impress attractive women, but you also know they're very accepting hotties because they deal with the mentally ill all day.

>I didn't like my life before
>I made it more miserable and I like it now

Kill yourself dumb retard, having infinite free time is amazing and I miss being neet.

in that case the tl;dr of what happened was:
>therapist lied about the pretenses of the psych eval
>tells me if i dont take schizo meds im gonna get labeled a threat to myself/others
>try taking them
>makes me realize no matter how depressed i was i always at least felt something before
seriously fuck schizo meds

>The meaning of life is how to slave away for an artificially created system to keep you in check from doing anything dangerous

holy brainlets shits

If I already knew that I wouldn't need to go to a therapist in the first place and therefore therapists would be useless. The most precise I can be is:
- it's something actionable
- which doesn't require resources I don't have
- and cannot incur life-ending consequences under normal circumstances.
Things that fail 1 include "just bee yourself bro". Things that fail 2 include "just buy a manor and 50 yachts bro". Things that fail 3 include "just choose a girl at random on the street, demand she goes out with you, and don't take no for an answer bro".
Advice that succeeds the 3 criteria include the made up example, "everytime you see a coworker, think "cloudy weather"", or "say "hello" to at least one coworker every day". However there's no point if these advice do nothing.

>why didn't you just skip out of work after 3 days of starting?
>where did the motivation to keep going come from?

The knowledge that if I cannot function as an adult human being, I will be completely fucked the second mummy and daddy can't support me.

Just imagine yourself committing suicide because you were too useless to hold down a job like everyone else. That's good motivation.

I'm honestly surprised it was a male therapist though. I mean, every single woman therapist pulls shit like that, but while some men do, they're rare.

lmao this never happened user

You have confirmed everything he was saying by making this most abhorrent of posts.

>I made it more miserable

I didn't do that at all. I made my free time actually enjoyable.

You can't pull the ' WAKEY WAKEY, WAGIE' meme on me. I know it's bullshit. I've BEEN on the NEET side of the fence. I'm 31. I was there for over a decade. I know it's nothing more than the ego defending itself, and that the reality of NEET life is a slow, empty, miserable road to homelessness and suicide.

the weirdest part of it is that it works

i have tried a lot of therapists and have found that for the most part, it's fucking useless for my personality type or whatever. talking about your feelings may work for some, but not for me. HOWEVER, what i do highly recommend is finding a therapist that will do EMDR (Eye movement desensitization and reprocessing), or better yet, do it to you and then teach you how to do it to yourself. it's extremely useful for changing thought patterns, etc. if you are like me and feel that spending money to sit with someone who you cant truly open up to is a waste of time and money, give EMDR a shot and see if you like it. i'll keep the thread open if any of you anons have questions.

People who hold jobs are useless though

i'm pretty nervous about getting shot so i've been doing some exposure therapy and just getting knifed a bit every time i go outside. now i'm not really that scared of getting shot.

I was a full hikki for a year and it was the happiest time of my entire life. Every day I dream of being able to go back to that life.

You could just lie about taking your schizo medicine.

Oh shit i told my psychiatrist that im suicidal aswell. Shit

It depends on your connection with person, not gender.

That's unironically really fucking bad. Your best chance is to invent a new hobby you picked up and say how it made you all happy and you don't need help anymore, and then go to another therapist.

>I was a full hikki for a year
>a year

That's fucking nothing. That's a gap a year. That'a fucking vacation.

It is NOTHING like waking up one morning and realizing that while your classmates from highschool were launching themselves toward six figure careers, starting families and buying their first homes, you spent ten years of your life sitting on Jow Forums whining about how nobody understands what its' like to not wanna go to work in the morning. How 10 years have gone buy and all you have to show for it is some grey hairs and extra wrinkle on your forehead.

Well i did it so that i may qualify for neetbux

You don't just casually slip slip out something that gets you reported to the authorities. It should be pretty clear when you cross that line long before you do so

lel
love the exposure therapy meme for stuff you DON'T like
>hey doc i have a phobia of going to the places that i hated going to even before getting the phobia
>YOU MUST EXPOSE YOURSELF VIA SUFFERING BY GOING TO THOSE PLACES
>but doc i don't even gain anything from go...
>YOU MUST DO IT YOU FAGGOT, IT'S THE ONLY WAY TO BEAT THE PHOBIA. BUT IF YOU STOP EXPOSING YOURSELF EVERY DAY EVEN AFTER YOU'VE BEAT IT, YOU'RE GONNA RELAPSE
>sooo... lemme get this straight. i have to subject myself to literal misery EVERY DAY in order to beat a phobia of places that i hate?
>DASS RITE
>that's like being forced to walk 50 miles a day on glass shard-filled sand, otherwise you won't be able to walk on roads made of nigger pubis...
>...
>JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP, STOP PHILOSOPHIZING AND DO IT YOU PUSSY

You really are a complete normalfag. You truly don't understand even the first thing about what robot even mean. You're truly addicted to projecting your ego everywhere huh. It's almost amazing, but really it's truly sad. You normalniggers and your self-centered view of the world. The world doesn't revolve around you. Not everyone is a copy-pasta of you and we're certainly not pawns whose existence's purpose is to submit to your ilk.

I don't think the post 2008 hellscape can be wasted. It's not like the 90s. You're missed out on a sucky decade.

Exercise does not fix your life. It helps but it's not even close to a solution to absolutely anything

The funny thing is that i tried to approach women for 7 months and still could not do it. Remember these people are normies.
If you were ostracized in your youth, you will almost never recover.

Its a good thing society is trash

That's the exact opposite of what's going to happen. First, literally nobody suicidal qualifies for neetbux. You know what you should have capitalized on? Your outrageously low IQ. After all it's the only way you could possibly have thought that being suicidal is any kind of disability, let alone that you're not going to be interned for the next several months.

This. What's more, not everyone is blessed with the fortune of having no permanent wounds preventing virtually any kind of exercise.

>love the exposure therapy meme for stuff you DON'T like
Exposure therapy does work though because after a while you'll get desensitized to the stimuli.

Here is one thing I did in therapy: I was made to have scripted conversations with her and practiced over and over. You were made to say exactly the right things and lines like it was a movie. If you said something wrong you'd go over it again. Saying the right things was drilled into me. Eye contact and vocal tone were corrected. What do you all think of this? Good or bad?

>What do you all think of this? Good or bad?
CBT?

I know it does, I've experienced it myself.

It sucks when you have to do it so that you can do stuff that you absolutely hate. It's kind of like eating shit so that you can drink piss.

>used to be afraid of spiders
>have to get some ladders out of garage rafters
>they've been up there for years
>literally covered from end to end in cobwebs FULL of spiders
>no option but to get covered in fucking spiders
>suffer 10 minutes of heart-pounding anxiety
>spiders all over me, thick gunky strands of matted spider webs and insect carcasses dangling in my face
>takes me 20 minutes to carefully maneuver them them down and out the door
>not even remotely afraid of spiders anymore
>can literally sleep with one crawling up the wall right next to me

Shit works, faggot.

Yeah dude totally XDDDD
>go to social events
>get panic attack
>go more
>get panic attack even faster
>go more
>get generalized panic
>turn into a hikki as a result
it just werkz

The problem is that you leave the moment you get a panic attack.

It works when you let the panic take you over, and then you ride it out till it leaves you, and stay put.

>You really are a complete normalfag

What kind of normalfag spent the entirety of their 20's locked in their bedroom, shitposting all day and showering less than once a week?

I'm 31 years old. One day, you will be too. And you'll know that I was right.

I used to sweat going to the grocery store and being seen in public. Had tummy aches in high school every other day because of social anxiety. Used to be scared of talking on the mic in videogames. Now ten years later I don't. What do you think happened in those years? After a while my brain simply couldn't give a fuck. Probably wouldn't have taken ten years if I left the house more often.

I was sent there in middle school so I don't know.

Sounds like it would be good if and only if these aspects are very outside the norm, and only if in follow-ups you do unscripted conversations following the same basic concepts (no script, but eye contact and tone must be correct). Finally, full unscripted, undirected, topic-free conversations must be had and practiced (in both the latter cases, no restarts on failures, you must continue). In particular, the therapist should appropriately bring back up situations that caused trouble before in a natural way ("drill" the patient).
Chances are this is nobody's problem, though.

>autists don't exist
>the ones that might exist don't have issues with knowing what they shouldn't say around other people

i just wanted to discuss why there seems to be such an anti-suicide attitude in this country so that i could better understand why everybody gets mad at me when i say i support the right of suicide but then i was locked up for being a danger to myself and others.

I can't even tell if it's a pretty funny post or if it's serious anymore. Therapists are so fucked.