With Alex Jones' ban from almost all social media platforms at the hands of the left...

>There is a very real and important distinction between what is happening to Alex Jones and censorship.

It's a deliberate ploy to try and force the overton window to the left. Slowly start chipping away at "right-wing extremism" and continue to go after more and more moderate speakers until even people firmly on the left side of the graph are considered Hoppean.

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Dude I think you need to fuckin' go outside for a couple days. Getting this into the internet is kinda sad.

Ah yes, the "leftist" giant mega corporations.

It's just as easy to say that trump's extensive and unwarranted attack on the media is just him sticking his toe in the water to see if Americans can accept media control.

See how this works?

It's not deliberate. It's just that women can vote, they hold all the power, and men are being feminized like in bonobos.

If this nutcase wants to go and slander people on his show, which presents itself as a news program, then what the fuck did you think was going to happen? He literally calls people by name and makes up stories about how they are pedos. Free speech is NOT freedom to slander individuals.

The problem with this whole thing is that they didn't publicly justify it in the right way, so now conservatives think he was censored because of his political beliefs.

Corporations have always had the power to suppress messages they don't like on their platforms, it just has to be a publicly acceptable suppression so the general public doesn't collectively flip a bitch and boycott

Citation needed origggginaldo mcgee?

>banning a blowhard who is so divorced from the reality and truth that its essentially comedy
>"DIS IS WHERE DA APPRESSHUN BEGINS"

If you actually understood American and world history beyond the shit you see on Jow Forums you would understand we have a long ways to go before civil war breaks out.

newsweek.com/alex-jones-threatens-shoot-pedophile-robert-mueller-accuses-zuckerberg-1038500

There you go, fuck this guy.

Gee oh gee,

I wonder who could be behind this post?

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>preventing someone from using a public platform is okay because their ideas are crazy
not only is that retarded on its own, but if you want to get ideological, you need crazy people to be able to nonviolently speak publicly so others can prove them wrong.

I should add that I'm sad to see him go from youtube, he was a good source of entertainment. But we also have to keep in mind the kind of retards who watch his channel and take it seriously. Spouting blatant, slanderous misinformation can be dangerous.

The platforms Jones is being banned from are not public. Facebook, Youtube, and Spotify are all private entities. This would be a separate matter entirely if his site was getting ripped up by the feds, or his public ravings were shut down police, but that isn't happening. Try again.

The supreme court agrees with me.
qz.com/1009546/the-us-supreme-court-just-decided-access-to-facebook-twitter-or-snapchat-is-fundamental-to-free-speech/

And you're an idiot.

texasmonthly.com/politics/alex-joness-attorneys-defamation-suit-argue-no-reasonable-person-believe-says/

No, the supreme court didn't. The decision restricts the GOVERNMENT from restricting access to social media, something you and I both agree is a bad thing. It has nothing to do with platforms banning groups or individuals that violate their terms of service.

Listen guys, i never watched alex jones. But i saw he was a right leaning talk show. This guy is an asshole. Now i see that. But still i believe that the left will drag this country down.

>The platforms Jones is being banned from are not public. Facebook, Youtube, and Spotify are all private entities.

You say that as if these are just some small insignificant websites. He was banned from the absolute core of our information and idea spreading networks. We should be worried because a small group of people have a monopoly on what goes and what doesn't on the websites that receive the most traffic and have the most influence on our society. Maybe they were right to ban him, but its still a dangerous amount of power and influence to have in the hands a select few.

>bloody 2nd Civil War.
lmao but liberals are against owning firearms.

It'd be the most one-sided war ever. Guns vs fat Nazi punchers.

You are absolutely correct, but a raving lunatic who sells onions-based supplements is not the hill you want to die on. Keep your powder dry for someone who actually matters.

I don't give a fuck about Alex Jones, right or wrong, hes just an example how much power they have and what they can do with in terms of controlling the flow of information on the busiest social medea sites. Maybe its just our fault as a society for backing ourselves into a corner where a small group of people have this much power and the right to use it as the please, but its still a worrying situation to be in.

>The next left leaning president we have will immediately throw this country into civil conflict. A civil strife that will tear families apart,communities, and the country. And thus lead to a bloody 2nd Civil War.
Shit, I guess I'm a leftist now. Anything that disrupts the normalfag's lives, and breaks the monotony of mine is welcome.

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>believe that this country will fall into a state of censorship
The US already has full on censorship.
A lot of places rank way higher in terms of press freedom.
The country already went down the drain after WW2

>therefore he shouldn't be allowed to speak?

Corporations are people under the US constitution, and have first amendment rights. With these rights come first amendment responsibilities like not infringing on others' first amendment.

>wants slaves
>practices white supremacy
>Nazi

"CENSORSHIP"
>gets triggered

BAN ASSAULT WATER FILTERS

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there will be a great awakening. spread the word.

-muad'dib

Obvious shitpost, but please tell me how you back these accusations.

The kind of society you're describing has been the case for the entirety of human history. Every functional society has been controlled by a small elite with a monopoly on resources. The idea that society *shouldnt* work this way is a comparatively recent construct.

If you're concerned, you're paying attention, but I'd argue that even now things are more decentralized than they have ever been.

>trafficking in information is far easier
>internet enables access to a plethora of "sensitive" subjects: (weapons, survival, warfare, etc)
>crytocurrency - outside of being a meme - challenges traditional banking
>hacking and cyberwarfare gives smaller actors the ability to do a disproportionate amount of damage
>etc

Now you're just making shit up. The first amendment only applies to GOVERNMENT ENTITIES. Private groups or individuals are generally not beholden to the same rules unless they a) receive government funding, or b) slide into narrow instances of unprotected speech.

They banned him because he kept bringing up sandy hook families and telling his viewers to harass them

You fucking retard

politics is for normies who give a shit about the country and its future.

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>First they came for the communists and I did not speak out because I was not a communist.

I agree with the overall sentiment. I do believe that private businesses, especially those of the size and influence of something like Facebook or YouTube (Google) should uphold the ideals of the first amendment as a matter of principle. However, they are under no obligation to do so. Alex Jones has for years made himself such a toxic and insanity spouting ass that he is now more unprofitable to host than to host. The man shills water filters and spouts insanity. He is not a voice of civil discourse and reason.

You may disagree with Ben Shapiro or Jordan Peterson but they present their arguments in a logical and consistent manner. You can engage with them and their thoughts. Alex Jones spouts nonsense and the most utter lunacy. However, once again, the US Government has not forced him to take down Infowars. The first amendment only protects an individual from the GOVERNMENT not private industries.

As for the previously mentioned right wing voices such as Shapiro or Peterson they continue to have a platform on social media. Because they are not lunatics.

The mindset of "us vs. them" "red vs. blue" is very harmful. Just because Alex Jones isn't a weeping SJW radical left leaning Antifa doesn't mean he deserves protection or support. He is a madman and is doing more harm than good to these industries, so they shut him down. He is doing more harm than good to the cause of conservatism in America, and we honestly need to stop defending him. There are fully rational and very good arguments for things like the right to bear arms that do not resort to calling a shooting at a school a false flag and the parents crisis actors.

>politics is for normies who think they give a shit about the country and its future.
FTFY

It's all a game to normies, which one can appear more righteous and 'woke'.

Its what we gotta do to prevent fascism! you can't argue with them so you have to use force!
WHAT DO YOU MEAN THATS EXACTLY WHAT FASCISTS DO? WHAT DO YOU MEAN NOT EVERY RIGHT WINGER IS FASCIST? REEEEEEEEEEEE

>This is censorship!
>Rules? YouTube doesn't have rules LOOOOL
>Jones said something about Sandy Hook one time, but he's just kind of silly
>Hate speech is such a broad term, he doesn't directly hurl insults at anybody in particular
>We should put government agents into YouTube so that they have to contact a government agency before they ever ban a channel

You people are retarded.

youtube.com/watch?v=uWd6XgBVIcg

I think it was stupid for those companies to ban Alex Jones, but this is completely ridiculous. Grow up. Alex Jones hasn't been silenced. More people are probably listening to him today than were a few weeks ago.

>act like a hateful genocidal neo nazi
>WHAT THIS MEANS IT HAS CONSEQUENCES?

fuck off incels

*masturbates furiously*

Wrong term

You don't have to tolerate the intolerant

alt right thinks they're clever when they bring this up but anyone who isn't an echochamber pepe retard knows it is completely right

And you think you're so clever for saying nothing more than my first sentence.
Free speech is not only permitted to the most "tolerant".

>You don't have to tolerate the intolerant
What specifically do you mean by this statement? At what point do you think something should become intolerable to a functioning society?

see this pic related user

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There's nothing wrong with that

Why would a peaceful society accept the unpeaceful who seek to oppress the lot of you and prop themselves up in a racist hierarchy

You can fuck off now

That "philosopher" must have aspergers or something because that is fucking retarded

Germany accepted the national socialist party with open arms because they were our last hope before, before what we have today...

Don't waste my time with this. That comic doesn't do anything more than beg the question. I understand that you think that we "shouldn't tolerate intolerance." I don't need that point to be recapitulated in picture form.

I'm asking you for some specific and clear rule that dictates when an idea become intolerable in civil society.

i'm sorry that you can't think and need everything spelled out for you user. good luck.

So you can't answer the question?

there is only the good fight. what else is there to life? you either distract yourself or you fight evil.

Look what tolarance got you
youtu.be/upFX1bTM5gQ

>c'mon guys
>they dindu muffin
>be tolarant
>you wouldnt want me to threaten you with public shaming would you?

so you need it answered?

fucking retard, it's not like anyone's prohibited from typing infowars.com into their address bar.

Yes, clearly. I have my opinion on the subject, but I'm asking for yours.

>caring about the health of your race and country makes you a bad person
>sit down and shutup while we fuck your homeland
>be a good cuck
This is why you live a sad life

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Not op, but I'm just going to say: It's the precedent set. It's easy for these colluding companies to flex their muscles on Jones because nobody wants to defend him. Even people coming out in his favour always preface it with "now, I don't like him and he's a meme etc etc"

Now that they've gotten away with working together to unperson somebody they'll get bolder. There's more to it than just infowars, you're a fool if you don't think they'll be trying this shit on more people in the future

Free speech is not the same as giving a fascist the crown to dictatorship.
>accept the unpeaceful
Free speech is not the same as acceptance.

youtu.be/tRldCjbV6MI
Here is to all you faggot Jews in this thread preaching tolarance and fading away without a fight

Here is something to change you fence sitters minds on who to become
youtu.be/JEyNNCn9Z5M

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I suppose they've all just evaporated Infinity War-style, have they?

No, you imbecile, they've gone further underground. This legitimate conspiracy only enforces their belief

>censorship
Privately owned social media company. They can do what they like. Don't like it? Make your own. Thought you liked freedom?

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Hitler was a National Socialist.
That is not fascism.
But is close

In any case National Socialism is the future. You just havent realized it yet.
Take off the blindfold white man

So what if the internet became a massive social media network that is owned by one company.
Would you say the same?

You lolbertarian nigs are the same as communists, even jews

Except that's been happening for years now, and there's been no recent spoke to prompt -every- corporate monopoly to shadowban him

If you actually believe their bullshit you're an idiot.

I don't see why they need to ban him. Just lock "conspiracy" type content behind a 18+ sign in wall and label it as such. I thought youtube was already doing that.

He got banned from private corporations. It's funny you right-wingers now want the government to step in and save him. Then you say the opposite when christians won't bake fags cake.

It's centralized corporate social media. You can simply choose not to use it and move to decentralized social media like gnusocial, bitchute, etc.

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Freedom of speech laws are relative to public space, social media companies are private spaces. His presence drives away people, leading to lower ad revenue and site hits. He is affecting their bottom line.

>libertarian
Lefty actually. JUST reminding you of how private property works, because nobody on the right seems to have a clue.

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Ppl consider fascism the opposite of freedom and nothing more, maybe you have some weird specific definition.

there's a difference between online tech monopolies and some no-name bakery with another fifty bakeries in a mile radius

The size of the company is irrelevant to the argument. It doesn't matter if it's a non-name bakery with ten customers or a mega-bakery caking across the globe. Either they're allowed to choose who they provide their goods and services to or they aren't. You don't get to have it both ways depending on whether or not you agree with the person being denied.

Alex Jones is a Zionist shill who sold pit in the 90s
I have no say in the matter
This whole ordeal is probably a publicity stunt
I may be wrong, but he still was a Zionist shill

When the technocrat pigs have control over the entire internet (not counting the dark web) they will remove any strand if truth and effectively put a bullet in the generations to come.
The future will only become more digital

People consider refugees and Jews their best and greatest allies
People consider getting genocided by their own "government" okay

Humans didnt make fascism
We discovered it

What is the difference exactly? I think the argument for the regulation of social media companies vis-a-vis freedom of speech would be that they perform some utility like function and provide some social good. Therefore they can be regulated like a utility. However I fail to see how that's the case here. Is there anyone who used to listen to Alex Jones who cannot do so today? Is there any undo hardship imposed on people who want to listen to Alex Jones today that didn't exist a few weeks ago?

Once the government or megacorporations start censoring indivdual servers and websites, I'll be pissed. I'll be pissed if infowars gets taken down, eventhough I hate Alex Jones. But idk what private companies do to their users. It's le great capitalism. Just choose another product and company.

>lefty actually
What else did I expect.
After all it is Jow Forums
This fucking bord is an abomination and needs removal

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Capitalism is a Jewish ideology that only supports a corporations freedom and not the individuals

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Thank god we have blockchain

And that has already started
Notice that iron March and other websites (including Jow Forums, pol specifically) are being scrubbed from the search results

ok that does not sound very relevant friend I am sympathetic to nazis but I think burning books and rounding up jews is fascism. I don't stand for it

>national socialism
>everyone owning a gun

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Search engines are owned by corporations, not the government. There's no inalienable right to have your website returned in search results.

>REE JEWS AND REDDIT AND HITLER BEING RIGHT ETC

Isn't Infowars actually getting sued by people like the 2012 Sandy Hook shooting victim's families? I'm not exactly celebrating this shutdown, but I can see why these big social media companies would want to drop something that could get them in trouble as well.

I'm not saying that I really agree with the people who want the state to intervene, but that to compare it to the faggot cake is missing the point entirely. One no-name bakery in Buttfuck, USA refusing to bake a cake isn't a big deal, since they could've just gone elsewhere. Alex Jones was banned by several social media titans on the same day, meaning that they essentially conspired against him and mass-censored him and InfoWars. The thought that the main social media sites, which are all far too big to fall, have been able to wipe out someone who they all disagree with for "violating their terms of service" which are loosly defined and selectively enforced, in reality because they just don't like him, is pretty scary. I think that censorship, purely for the sake of censorship, by several social media monopolies at once is just as bad as censorship by the Government.

I'm not saying that the Gov should intervene, but that this is a legitimate problem that everyone should be concerned about. If it were some left-wing nut who had been censored, then checkmark twitter would be in a state of war by now.

Are you familiar with the attempted communist revolution in Germany in 1919?
Are you familiar with the communist revolution in Russia?
Are you familiar with Zionism?

If you dont snuff out the enemy working within your system you will never accomplish anything.

That's sounds great.
I hope the New American Reich will support my indivdual freedom to eat pizza, some weed, and fap to furry vore with my loli onaholes, while wearing
a buttplug.

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You sound like my brother. Except a few years ago. He was super convinced the 2nd civil war would happen, bought guns and everything, and then he got a little older and realized how stupid he was.
I learned a very important lesson from that though. People always think that there is; civil strife, the other side of the political spectrum getting too powerful, and that there is hard times, possibly even a civil war, around the corner. Or just a war with a country (my mom thought that American army was heavily crippled by the Obama admin and that NK or China would attack us, until I showed her that we were no. 1 for military power in the world, and that China has no precise reason to attack us).
Sometimes I wonder if maybe it's the right that's stupid, instead of just my family
Also, I'm centrist. Not left.
>inb4 fucking leftist ANTIFA commie just spitting lies for his dumb friend Karl

>I have no argument but I'm going to post anyway

see you on the other side accelerationist-bro
>t. ancap

>not understanding what i was doing