I have not lived a meaningful life, and I will not die a meaningful death. What can I do?

I have not lived a meaningful life, and I will not die a meaningful death. What can I do?

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live a meaningful life from this point on, it shouldn't be that hard right?

>meaningful
Fucking grow up. Why do you think life has meaning and that everyone is entitled to some larger purpose and meaning? Fuck off. We live to reproduce and the only thing that keeps us going is the will to live and reproduce.

He means personally meaningful dumbass, what kind of fucking retards reads the OP and thinks he means hurr durr meaning of life.

Kill yourself you huge autist.

>fucking grow up
You should take your own words to heart, moron.

why are you mad about it though

There is not much you can do except explore reality


there is no real meaning, only meaning people create. You could become religious, but it only works if you really believe in the lie.


The danger of the modern world is we've realized as individuals we are meaningless.

>personally meaningful
>hurr durr meaning of life.
Same shit.

No it isn't you sperg.

that's the million dollar question,if any robot knew it i doubt we would still be here unless he had no compassion whatsoever or his discovery was lost through the annals of time.If you do not suffer from lethargy then your best chance is to revel on present stimulus while trying his best to be aware of the consequences of his actions.

let me fugg you to death so you can be immortalised like mr. hands

Ironic that you will never achieve that goal autist

Meaningful means nothing. You don't have to be Chad to find happiness in life. Do what makes you happy and don't let society tell you how to live

Nobody on Earth lives a meaningful life. I wouldn't worry too much about it.

Unless you can convince yourself that one of the many religions is true. How would you even begin to decide between them though, I guess most just pick the most culturally relevant one. You could also convince yourself that some self made meaning actually matters, but that requires an enormous ego, bordering on insanity.

>There is not much you can do except explore reality
this is the truth but you really took the luster out of it, particularly by robbing the potential and nigh certain higher power who created it

what if you can't be happy until someone tells you how to live

>you really took the luster out of it
yeah, i'm good at doing that.


just for context i'm a scientist and a psychedelic drug enthusiast.. both are forms of exploration...

but I should add i'm also super depressed and have been for the last 20 years or so.
Unfortunately being aware, intelligent, and gaining knowledge does not pacify the deep questions and yearning for meaning. :(

No one made a decision to exist in this reality. So don't blame yourself or feel like you've done something 'wrong'. Shit (existence) happened for some incomprehensible reason and we just have to put up with it until its over. Whatever that means.

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surely you've come to some conclusions about man's place in the universe, some trajectory that would maximize exploratory efforts?

It genuinely is not you absolute brainlet.

The only "meaning" if for us to have fun and love each other
The rest we hallucinate

Read strongest man kurosawa user

>surely you've come to some conclusions about man's place in the universe

Not enough information to come to any conclusion about our place in the universe.
Simply because we do not understand the universe. We need to observe more, much more. We are very young in terms of the realization of the vastness of the universe itself.

A trajectory to maximize exploratory efforts? Yeah sure, I think about this often, and it makes me particularly depressed.
Most people care more about social media and their cellphones than philosophy and exploring the meaning of the universe.
Now this has always been the case, but our population is so vast now and the resources taken up by individuals so large we will decimate this planet before we come to any real conclusions.

i struggle with these realities daily
i'm a very sad person

>Not enough information to come to any conclusion about our place in the universe
i meant personally. you proposed a marginally objective goal for humanity, surely there are conclusions about humanity you have made with that in mind

>Most people care more about...
>Now this has always been the case, but our population...
you align with me very closely, but i think our personal circumstances are different. as for me, im not content with my personal situation and when i daydream about what i want it to be, what i have in mind is a lifestyle that i think, if everyone followed, would result in more people having a respect for humanity such that they have a zeal to spread it to places where explorations can be done. i think psychedelics can lead you to conclusions like this as well, as for why they havent, i would have to assume you're fairly comfortable with your lifestyle?

Alright, i'll try to sum this up meaningfully in text.

Some conclusions about humanity: On an individual level, most people are good, empathetic and want the best (in their understanding) for most life around them. As a collective species, we are deeply flawed, focused on consumption and exploitation. We are unfocused and nobody is really in charge of our progression. This is exacerbated by large bureaucratic organizations (governments, companies etc) which are also only focused on consumption and exploitation. So my view of humanity is very dismal, but we still have potential.

> i think our personal circumstances are different
Not as different as you may think user.
I am on my second postdoc. I even won an prestigious award to get this one. I get paid a few bucks over minimum wage (because people want burgers, not science). I have met with some of the most influential scientists in chemistry and physics and the more I know the more I want to leave the system behind entirely. Everything at the top level truly is a political circle jerk of big ego's. Sensationalism and who you know is more important than your intent and the actual results. The golden age of science ended decades ago and now it is about funding, grant applications, bureaucrats and knowing the right people. Exploration and knowledge generation are at the bottom of the list.

I got my phd because I enjoyed exploring reality. As it turns out this is the wrong mindset to be successful, because nobody cares about reality any more.
in conclusion, i'm poor as shit and I am depressed and angry on a daily basis because the selfish nature of humans has corrupted my career path.

just to add to that, the most successful 'scientists' I know, don't actually do any experiments. They are professors that manage labs and they are typically sociopathic and rule via bullying and itimidation. It is about winning for them and nothing else. There is no love, nor empathy in modern science :(

Write more meaningless posts, try to get some meaningless sex.

have you thought about how that culture might change, or even how you might change it? do you not believe in the 'be the change you want to see' type shit? or do you just hope it will get better, or dont even bother hoping

I would change things if I could, but if you don't play their game, you get pushed out.

There are always initiatives to change funding structure etc, but they only last as long as whatever government put them in place.

Not surprisingly the trouble with science is actually rooted in politics and the way government policy works. Of course these are also contingent on public view and what people vote for and more importantly the wishes and goals of industry. It's a massive sprawling system where everyone has their own interests in mind.

In short, Science and scientists aren't really the problem, nor are they the solution.
Social reform is the only real answer, but populism is on the rise, which will only hasten disaster.

I contemplate becoming a politician often, because perhaps I'd have a chance to positively impact humanity, but thinking of this career path dramatically increases my thoughts of suicide.

politics is exactly their game, and even if you were successful that would definitely take the form of populism

anyways i find it funny how we see the same problems, yet have very different approaches. i cant imagine wanting to become a politician, all i think would satisfy me as far as my impact on society would be a family and thats not even on the horizon

I'll probably have kids in a few years.
I would like to have some sort of stable job first

but is that enough?
I fear watching the destruction of our planet, and knowing it is only going to get worse will take its toll on my mental state.

anyway
i'm out, good discussion.

By meaningful, I meant meaningful to me. I have not been the person I wanted to be. My life is meaningless not just to the universe but to me as well. I never cared about mattering to the universe, but to realize that I don't matter to myself is pretty disappointing.

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Don't die. Also, live better.