>read people's lamentations about women on r9k
>find myself agreeing with a lot of it
>really feeling their anger
>wait
>remember I'm a woman and a human
>dial it back, still agree on some things, but a lot of it is stupid
>realize the reason people point fingers on both sides is because they deal with different problems
>problems for one gender don't exist for the other, so the other has it so easy
>tfw everything is just "the grass is always greener"
why can't we all
get along
Read people's lamentations about women on r9k
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>agreeing with a lot of it
good good
just date girls instead
>remember I'm a woman
you were doing so well up until this point
Statistically men are more miserable than women. Don't pretend like you'll ever have to seriously worry about providing for yourself or your family.
>b-but I get looked at by guys on the street
Not even comparable.
I fucking wish
this is probably true in first world countries, probably not the case in shitholes
>teehee, I'm a female, please give me attention
Why did you even post that you are a female? Could have had the same impact in speech if you stayed 'genderless'.
>I fucking wish
did you ever try?
>this is probably true in first world countries, probably not the case in shitholes
Anywhere in the world, a man's job is to work and provide and a woman's job is to marry a guy that will provide for her and pump out babies. This is truer in "shitholes" than the West actually.
where do you live op? are you in a place that women dont have rights?
>Another roastie plays handmaiden for virtue signal points and fucks off to lolcow/cc once she's had her feel
>Continues to berate men and besmirch anything masculine with her hyena buddies.
I legitimately want you to die in a painful manner. I do not know you, but the very fact that you have the gall to placate and patronize people makes me livid. You are absolute scum. No one wants your coddling, kill yourself.
>going to die alone and unloved
>"women have problems just as bad as yours, you just think the grass is greener"
yeah sure OP, must be real awful being female
in this situation I didn't want to look like an apologist but that I would know for a fact
I live in gay city but I'm retarded
men are more likely to stick around and provide for her but her liberties as a human are also usually extremely limited. Not to mention rape and child marriage/molestation. They are treated more like trophies.
>I live in gay city but I'm retarded
just go to lesbo bars and stuff and tell girls they are cute
getting a normal gf is easier than getting an ok bf
Iv said for a long time I wish there was some dating site for people like us (even just as practice gf(s) and bf(s)), between R9K and CC the differences are minimal besides R9K being a bit more toxic due to the nature of the chins.
If only we were able to talk instead of "ROASTIE GET OUT" or "you cant sit with us" mayB some of us would actually be happy for once, it's so painfully obvious it hurts to watch...
Oh well, I guess at the end of the day it's what makes r9k and cc their own unique communities, but it's still to bad we cant hang out because woman/man hating aside I bet we would get along if we just started talking to each other.
but I'm not 21 yet
it's the worst
there are girls who come here and don't understand lurking and blending in, their posts are also usually shit
like the female equivalent of cross-siters
but something between r9k and cc could just work
How delusional are you?
pic related.
oh that kinda sucks if you live in the US
maybe try dating apps or something and probably not someone from Jow Forums desu
>CC less toxic than r9k
no. Besides they can do better than you because they're all normalfags despite being crazy
windows phones are shitty. Sounds more terrifying than in person. But I might be getting a new phone soon so I might try it out.
>I'm a woman
>and a human
This does not fempute.
>their human liberty is limited
Translation
>they aren't allowed to be whores
Wow, must suck for them.
Because of indentity politics
The mainstream is nothing but hating white males for being white and male
kind of what I mean, going from soaking in a lot of stuff from here to realizing it isn't necessarily all like that. Sure there's those girls, just like there's shitty guys, but there are girls that are just people. Like driving a car, walking by yourself, having a job, etc. Regular people stuff is limited to women, to different extents, in such countries.
this is true and very unfortunate. Many people are too quick to react and retaliate, but they're also loud. There are sensible and level-headed people too.
I'm almost certain it would work, we are both a lonely group that doesn't really understand each other because we are quick to judge.
But it seems we all generally enjoy
>anime
>vidia
>memes
>NEET life
>shitposting
>ect.
Like you dont want a 10/10 stacy faggot, we all want the best and if you loser neckbeards lost 200+ pounds you might find out 5-6/10s would date you (assuming your face isn't fucked up somehow)
I agree women are more vocal about wanting Chad but I believe they have realistic expectations if you talk with them
T. Former normer who is 185 6'0" formerly known as guy who was 270lbs
I'm a failed normie but because of a series of unfortunate events my I cant trust anymore so I will probably die alone, doesn't mean you faggots cant try a little harder and get the 5-6/10 girl of your dream.
Assuming your face isn't fucked up I could take any one of your r9kers and in a year have you pulling minimum of 5-6/10 grills and that's a God damned guarantee, if you have a pretty face I'll have you pulling stacies. it's not hard, only took me a year to remake myself.
>Regular people stuff is limited to women, to different extents, in such countries.
Implying virtue-signaling white middle class roasties actually gave a shit about actual issues affecting women's liberty in the developing world, or even in their own communities such as the high rate of single motherhood, violence and poverty which disproportionately affects blacks and latinas, ho ho that's fucking rich.
Are legitimately retarded?
There are HUGE movements about women's rights, anti slutshaming, anti-rape bullshit, QUOTAS, AFFIRMATIVE ACTION even though women outnumber men in universities, FAMILY COURT system. I could go on.
Jow Forums is DEIFYING and ORBITTING women all the time.
Meanwhile cc and lc OPENLY MOCK, BELITTLE and MAKE FUN of men INCESSANTLY.
You are a fucking child and you are fucking stupid. Save some face and go back to your echo chamber.
>implying
I am 29 years old you teenage fuck. I have been with 26 women in my life and I am not even into ONS. You have no idea how the world works.
Also I'll add 5-6/10 is the dream grill, 10/10s are so full of themselves they are fucking trash. I doubt you will EVER find a decent 10/10.
But 10/10s do not go on CC, probably 7s are the highest you will find but shit I would take a wifeable 5-6/10 VS. A instawhore 10/10 any day of the week, pic somewhat related.
ofc it's an animeposting airhead.
You will die alone, unhappy and oblivious.
Oh really? Only a set amount of females are whores? Take a look outside, you nonce. Every female wearing yoga pants - not even going to a yoga class once - and showing their deviancy to the world. Females losing their virginity at 14. Females no longer finding sex as a sacred act, but rather, as an owned property.
Freedom is all relative. Women living in the third world do not want your freedom. See, females are unscrupulous creators; they rely on men to act scrupulous.
Observe the wild, and you will see females wanting - no - forced to copulate with a male counterpart - why? Because it's in their nature to reproduce. In the wild, females have to be careful to find the right mate, otherwise, the offspring may be inefficient - so to speak. However, in western countries, women rely on welfare, and cucks to bequeath them of their wealth. Females are whores by default, and must be restrained.
R9k is virgin neets. They'll never have to provide for a family either
The only way can find common ground and unify both genders is an intense group orgy.
imagine the loud sloshing noises, the thumping noises of numerous robots/femanons body thrusting and pounding into one another.
Maximum lewdness and blowing off so much pent-up frustration
but that will never happen.
>misses point completely and falls back to personal bias
if you were a femanon or a normie you'd still think you have mad problems because the vast majority of all people lack the capacity for sustained happiness or contentment, and most of those who do have the capacity for such sustained positive emotion don't have the resources to achieve it. A lot of the whining that goes on here is just the flipside of SJWs whining about who has it worse. Everyone has it bad because humans are generally neurotic, and weather you like it or not theres some rich fucko with everything you could ever want who still suffers more than you in their subjective experience. The only way to ascend is to stop using retard pity party logic and establish your own goals and meaning, instead of trying to take it out on people with different problems than you
You are so pathetic.
They don't see you as a sexual creature, you degenerate, warped, filthy lowlife.
I'm not a normalfag like you so no I can not
I have provided you with examples you FUCKING cunt.
I expect counter-arguments and not drivel.
Provide actual arguments on how women have it bad. What are womens issues in 2018? And how do they compare to mens issues.
Go ahead.
I was talking about third world countries. Such movements are just about obsolete in the U.S., but not so in other places.
In some first world countries like Japan even, there is need for some of this.
Also, different genders, different problems. For example, much of those movements here have had the counter-effect of people not taking females seriously. I don't want to be lumped in with them, but I don't want people thinking I can't do my job either.
Please read threads before you post in them.
got me there.
This is what I mean. I'd almost agree with some of it but then remember I'm female and not like that, and I'm not at all alone.
I admit I'm not great with explanations but I hope my meaning is coming across.
>why can't we all get along
this, why do we have to hate each other? Shouldn't we support each other instead?
I think a group therapy discord with scheduled meetings would be a great way to start.
stop trying to recruit you fucking creep.
lesbians beat each other like bongo drums, you and i both know this.
>just people
my sister says this often, i ask her how just people behave, since i have seen neither hide nor hair.
as for getting along, it isn't possible. not just because of men/women but because of the entire format of imageboards.
only takes a handful of irritating cunts to sink a thread, often they do it to be contrarian, or some pretentious sense that they're above the rest of the posters, mostly like them, and consider that since the board is wrecked already leaking more shit won't change much.
see a thread that nobody has shat on yet, plop out some low-effort bait, watch it fall to bits and everyone attack one another then whinge about how shit every board on the site has become and how much better things were in the 00's.
FUCKING NAME women's problems, name some. Name inequalities and how they compare to mens.
You mention 3rd world. Women have no rights there.
They dont get to vote = they don't get drafted
They don't leave the house = male work related mortality is 1/468 in developing countries
They raise children = average workday for males in developing countries is 14 hours.
They cant get an education = male life expectancy is 62 in developing countries, female life expectancy is 69.
NAME FUCKING WOMENS ISSUES. BULLETPOINTS. ANYTHING.
>discord
absolutely not. This is not what I wanted at all.
Sometimes just setting a good example for others on imageboards can lead to more positive results. It isn't perfect, but everyone giving into a "can't beat 'em, join 'em" sihtposter mentality is what would crash the internet with no survivors, as you said. I still have faith.
I already have, but those are general shithole human rights problems. Men and women both contribute to the betterment of a society and limiting them and their education is what creates problems.
Women shouldn't be forced to have children, however, as they often are. Women should be allowed to have jobs so males don't have to work so much. They don't get to vote, they don't get to contribute their voice to change things. I am of the opinion everyone gets drafted or no one gets drafted.
I agree man, idk why we cant all just get along and join up, I mean shit even if only 25% of you got grills to date you it would be progress.
Neither side has it bad buddy..... christ only people who have it bad are facelets who look like they just got mugged.
>women
>all you have to do is not eat like a hog
>men
>you have it SLIGHTLY harder
>you have to workout 1-3 hours 6 days a week
This is IT, do this and you will pull a 5-6/10 if your face isn't fucked up, it's not rocket science. Also dont act like a sperg and shout "ROASTIE GET OUT, REEEEE".
I mean jesus you people make it sound like to even be able to get a gf you have to be a navy seal superman chadthundercuck alpha when in reality you have to be a sub-200lb omega with a decent attitude and similar interests who has good hygiene.
there's also people who've been with women but no longer want anything to do with them.
You are NOT providing any actual points, I keep asking you for actual arguments and you have yet to provide any.
>women are required to bear children
No they don't, what do you think happens with infertile women in Chad or Quatar? They kill them off?
Women live in relative safety, enjoy long lives in the comfort of their home and never have to worry about food, water or shelter.
Meanwhile men slave away, die and get health issues from manual labor.
Point refuted.
>women should have jobs
Women having jobs slashed wages to half. Women having jobs created USELESS positions, MADE-UP university degrees and LOSS of productivity/braindrain.
Women FORCE companies and institutions to HIRE them via AFFIRMATIVE ACTION. This is not meritocracy, is it? Do you find it fair that private companies are FORCED to hire employees?
>no one gets drafted
If there is no draft then any outside force will just walk in and RAPE YOU and KILL YOUR FAMILY. These men are born with a NOOSE around their neck that states that they are EXPENDABLE and they have to die in your place.
How can I tell you are a teenager and you are still a parasyte to your parents.
Give it a few years, champ.
a small percentage might user we will never know unless we try.
>Discord
no, what can be said can be said here.
Answer me this
Both groups want something from one another and have completely different point of views, so what do you truly want to gain? What's your definition of getting along?
That would be me, I still enjoy hanging out with them and post on CC on and off. Some things are just better to talk about with women like romance anime. Not once have I talked to other dudes about Anohana or Toradors, females are better in this regard, but I doubt I could trust them again relationshipwise due to a terrible experience but I still enjoy them as friends.
It would make me genuinely happy though to see some of you lonely R9Kers get a good grill though because I unironically think of you faggots as my family.
>no, what can be said can be said here
no, anonymity skews what you might say. Typing to someone on Jow Forums is nothing like actually talking to someone .
Everyone has it bad you retard
Half of all poor people are women, they have all the problems of poor folk, like lower IQ, less access to opportunity, etc.
Everyone across society is growing more depressed
Drug addiction neatly covers both sexes fairly equally
You imply those examples cover women as a monolith when the truth is most of your problems simply cross apply to women as well. Your examples cover slim ground in the grand scheme of things, and your end goal is the establishment of your own victim status. What are you trying to accomplish? The SJWs have it all the way wrong fighting over whose victim status is most severe, and you're just playing by their rule book backwards. Your life will never benefit from the line of thought you're establishing.
I'm 26 champ I just havnt given up hope like you blackpilled faggots. I resized my faggot bat image so i could reuse it because one faggot bat wasnt enough for you.
Required if they can. It is expected, in some places forced.
>jobs slashed waged to half
I need a source on this, but also sounds like another human rights issue if true. Women create businesses and hire their own employees. They have crafts they've learned and if are allowed, they sell them. I agree with you on affirmative action being bullshit. Another example of movements producing results having the counter effect.
I also said all draft or no draft. Preferably we'd live in a world where it isn't necessary, either because there's no war or they are very small scale, but all draft is fine.
It's hard to say. My initial response would've been just for everyone to get along like in a good imageboard thread, where there are people of both genders posting but it isn't relevant and isn't said and everyone's having a good time.
However, I get along with men better irl and it's probably girls similar to me who blend in on this site. I don't know how other girls would act. There is also the problem of people starting to pull their punches if they know girls are around, reddit-style, so everyone would really actually have to understand each other on a gritty inner level, all emotions bared.
but people are too polite or erratic in person.
That said, I wouldn't really want normalfag girls to suddenly come here. So I don't know what can be done.
>less access to opportunity
Quotas, affirmative action, female-only homeless shelters, female-only rehad, female-only parking lots to sleep in their car, female-only free contraception, female-only free obgyn, female-only battered-wife day-centers.
C'mon, I have adressed all your points.
>Sometimes just setting a good example for others on imageboards can lead to more positive results.
i've been trying this for years. will just wear on your nerves. trying to get men on Jow Forums to accept women without either raging at them or trying their luck is a futile endeavour.
just pretend you are a man, or rather go without mentioning that you're female.
i don't explicitly state i'm a man on cc because that's fucking dumb, i go there to give textual headpats to hopeless women who bumble in and out of laughably one sided relationshit, not to try and trawl for cunt.
unless you are likewise cruising for that gud incel dicc then i'd suggest following my advice.
You double the number of workers, you effectively drive wages to half, you LITERAL FUCKING RETARD. It's like I am talking to a child.
A single income was enough to sustain a middle-class lifestyle in the 50s, now 2 are barely enough.
>crafts, female companies
Crafts might be .0000000000001% of GDP and women had part-time jobs before the suffrage.
Female CEOs and business owners avoid hiring women, there's a plethora of documentation.
Women are in service industries, they produce nothing whatsoever. High-risk jobs and blue collar jobs are still exclusively male. Why are there no women garbage collectors? What about sewer cleaners? I bet there are women carpenters at least! What, none? Wow.
>In an ideal society there would be no draft
We are presently LIVING IN AN ACTUAL SOCIETY YOU FUCKING MOUTHBREATHER, in an ideal society it be legal to euthanize you. What sort of argument is that?
In our preset world no country can exist without a draft, so I take it you want women to be drafted, right? Right?
oh, well I didn't mean like trying to play jesus or anything. I meant more post quality, like checking yourself and if you're contributing anything to a thread or not, all that.
But yeah, generally not a good idea to bring up your gender, especially since 9.9999 times /10 it isn't relevant and will derail the thread. The occasional problem comes when you want to discuss something gender specific really, but like you said, what can you do.
Those examples do not cover all women. I'm saying your argument's logical conclusion is flawed m8, in he same way anyone's claim and reverence to victim-hood is flawed. It's retarded and a waste of time. Ok, so YOU'RE really the bigger victim of society than women. What have we accomplished now? Are you saying you want the affirmative action? If so, get ahold of yourself and stop acting like a pussy. The people you're arguing against here aren't the victimhood claiming feminists that established the thing's you're complaining about. You're arguing against people who believe the idea that mutual cooperation and dialogue serves the purpose of mutual benefit and enrichment for everyone between the sexes. Saying we can't do that because you're too big of a victim and you need help is as autistic coming from you as it is coming from the feminists.
Except economics isn't that simple. It is true that mostly risky jobs are exclusively male, and that all-women workplaces generally don't work out. But as to the former, most risky jobs shouldn't even be a problem in today's society, but there are people with not enough access to education, unwilling to change their old ways, and people too greedy to spend money to improve the human condition. It shouldn't be anyone's problem.
To the latter, there are men who can't stand being around men all the time either, however. They are less gossipy and might work better than an all-female group, but that may depend on the job itself and the methods of hiring as well. Workplaces with both, if both are competent, are best.
However, considering that you keep harping on about the draft even though I already said
>so I take it you want women to be drafted, right? Right?
was fine, I'm guessing you won't read any of this anyways. You make some points but do actually read.
So you are basically saying I am correct and you were full of shit.
>not all women!
Yeah, all women have access to those services and institutions in western countries, especially socialist countries like most of europe. Even in 3rd world countries they enjoy higher quality of life and lower mortality rates than men.
Then you go on to attack my person, unsurprisingly. This is part and parcel with being a sore loser. Go on, call me an incel next.
>OP's getting consistently btfo, post after post, user after user
Kek I knew all women wanted to be degraded in gangbangs and this thread is proof
Your post can be summed up to
>in an ideal society men wouldn't be expendable, die early deaths, work themselves to an early grave, systematically spit out by the system and the bulk of his taxes being syphoned by women for free abortions, contraceptive pills, obgyn and test-paps.
Yeah, in an ideal society you'd be killed at birth when they detected you have a double digit IQ. We are not living in an ideal society though, we are living in this society and women are literal parasytes.
I already said women are more privileged in many modern societies but not all, and that they face actual problems there. You say things like
>longer life span than men even in shitholes
but what's the point of living a life where you're raped and beaten and abused? Where you can't exercise basic human liberties. Why live a caged life.
I did just realize that this all strays far from the topic however. Men and women have different problems, and sometimes can't get along because of it. It creates bitter people on both sides.
>inb4 you're quitting
You haven't actually listed any "actual problems" that women face in developed countries. I've asked you to, repeatedly.
Come on, list some problems you face in today's society.
No, I'm saying that the way you're trying to argue this point makes you inherently wrong and unreasonable. You understand that cooperation is good for the benefit of all right? So why are you doing the SJW thing where you're essentially saying "Aha! I was the BIGGEST VICTIM all along! That makes me the most special, the best opinion! I'm MORE OPPRESSED than WOMEN!" Like, sure dude, MRAs have some good points, but that's neither here nor there. I feel like you're deliberately misunderstanding me. It doesn't matter who the biggest victim is, because we can't fix anyone's problems by arguing about it. I'm saying your logic is the flipside of feminist logic and its incorrect in it's presuppositions, not in it's execution.
Men are factually more victimized, it has nothing to do with identity politics. It's elementary statistics.
The only way to make someone with an opposing viewpoint understand and align with your viewpoint, is by presenting compelling arguments.
Feminists do not use logic to argue, they are using leverage, hysteria, misinformation and terrorism.
You can put your head back in the sand and die though.
women-exclusive problems in a first world country?
being generally weaker and thus more vulnerable to men.
not being taken seriously, but at this point it's somewhat modern feminists' fault.
metoo memes aside, a disproportionate amount of females are raped and sexually assaulted, approximately 1 in 5. It's unfortunate that men's problems on this are still being swept under the rug though.
people are more likely to vote men into office because they are assumed more competent.
there are places in the U.S., usually red states/districts, that don't have women health clinics or education, and as a result women there face more health problems. When it's a women-only problem, it's "socialist".
the wage gap is still very much present in many occupations, but not all of them. Please don't just start meme-ing about this.
"men age like fine wine" has truth to it. Older men are more desirable than older women.
as you grow older, people are always asking about children. Though women are given choice nowadays here, there is still the expectation of prioritizing building a family over building a career.
I'm not saying any of this is worse than men's problems in the U.S., just that they're women's problems.
>"I'm part of the biggest victim group"
It isn't a contest, and if you think it is, no matter weather you think you're the winner of that contest, society loses.
Can't you see how that victim complex you've got there is personally detrimental to you though, is my point?
I am presenting the facts. Do you have an issue with objective reality? How do you propose we solve the issue of suicide? It's quite literally 40:1 in europe and 36:1 in the US compared to women.
Out of 6639 suicides in the UK in 2015, 4997 were men.
Propose a solution.
So, you have a problem with biology. You have a problem with lower upper-body strength. You have a problem with more agreeable demeanor, you have a problem with 1 standard deviation lower IQ.
You then went on to claim that 1 in 5 women are raped.
en.wikipedia.org
You then went on to claim there is a wage gap.
forbes.com
Shame on you. I didn't expect much, but I certainly didn't expect feminist drivel that's been debunked and ridiculed ages ago.
I am disappointed in you. Every single time, you never fail to disappoint me.
She claimed 1 in 5 women are raped and there is a wage gap, even though women demonstrably earn more than men in aggregate. Even though due to affirmative action over 60% of college graduates are women, and companies are forced to hire then and minorities, ergo white men hijack planes and crash into islands.
You are acussing ME of victim complex. You are in a thread were these things are said and you posit that I have a victim complex.
Fascinating.
I'm not saying someone else deserves the victim complex more or less, I'm saying it's a detriment to the potential betterment of any person that ANYONE should have a victim complex and use it as an excuse for anything. You can't social plan your way out of larger statistical problems you have with society, you have to address them on a near individual basis or else some group of people will always be falling through the cracks disproportionately and you'll always be trying to work from the top down ineffectually to mitigate these issues. It's far more beneficial and thus superior to ignore the allure of feeling like a victim altogether and sort your own chaotic life out, and then spread the ideal of personally rejecting victimhood using your own attained status or happiness as both evidence of your mentality's superiority and a platform from which to spread the idea of individual accountability for ones self as opposed to being made a victim by statistics and arguing with women like they're on the other team. It's childish, usless, and counter-productive.
Propose a cause. It's obvious women and men have some inherent generalized differences, but you can't use generalized data as a tool to fix anyone's individual problems. At best it obfuscates any one person's individual concerns by allowing you to tell them that in fact they should shut up because they could have it worse (read: be a part of the most victimized group), but that idea advice is functionally useless. It solves nothing for anyone. Thats the core of my argument, it doesn't matter whose wrong or right by general societal statistics because you can't make a top down solution that proactively solves anyone's issues. The proper level of analysis for these problems to solve them is obviously the individual level, and a victim complex doesnt help anyone solve anything.
Misleading propaganda, but in many occupations they still earn less than the median for men. Not to mention I do think affirmative action is a problem, not only because it's retarded on principle, but it teaches women that hard work means shit. It means women get shitty "girls who code" workshops instead of proper education. It's a women's problem. Modern feminism is a women's problem.
Basically, we all have problems. No one gender has it worse than another as a whole. We shouldn't be bitter about each other. But learning requires taking shit. Many women hate to hear stuff from this place, it's cringy when they talk about the hot new insult out of Jow Forums for what they deem losers as if they know what they're talking about. Then of course people here get angry. It's a cycle.
Vaginas do not exist. Why does your kind continue to lie to us?
Shit. Forgot to mention, of course I have a problem about genetic differences. It isn't fun being weaker. If this was Star Trek, well who cares, but since it isn't being assaulted is a very real possibility.
I have been talking about gender exclusive problems this whole time. It was kind of my whole point of this thread.
There is no discrepancy on wages in the same positions with the same work hours.
Provide 1 example. Just 1 fucking example of this happening. 1.
Men suicide rates spike after 40 and about half of the 5000 suicide victims in UK in 2015 where recently divorced with all that implies.
How is that for a cause? Is it good enough for you? Propose a solution, I gave you the cause.
www150.statcan.gc.ca
quora.com
Men are more at risk of assault and they are the victims of aggravated assult more often than women.
Again, shame on you.
It's short for (boi)vagina, just as pussy is short for (boipussy). All us girls(boy) know this.
>claims misleading propaganda
>uses misleading propaganda to try to counter actual facts
Look up the studies done by the government, there was about an 8% difference between men and women for the same position, this was shown to be the difference in people who negotiate their pay more up front and those who do not. They then found women are more likely to accept the first offer and not negotiate for more pay, thereby explaining that difference. The problem is your own fault and it is nearly non-existent. If companies could get the exact same work for cheaper, they would hire women exclusively, labor is one of the largest business expenses and anything you can cut out of it increases earnings.
This is actually some interesting reading.
scholar.harvard.edu
>women experience more sexual assault
>men experience more violent assault
What's your point? If you've been reading this whole time, this is all about how men and women have some different problems that causes misunderstanding and conflict.
>Socialist countries
>Like Europe
Sorry, but Social Democrocy is not Socialism. It's just regulated Capitalism.
Meant to sage for off-topic.
>but since it isn't being assaulted is a very real possibility.
Men are much more likely than women to be assaulted physically. But you know what? We don't really think about it that much.
Because we aren't HYSTERICAL. (Word choice is deliberate.)
Your complaint isn't really a complaint about weakness, it's an unselfaware complaint about your own tendency to hysteria.
So why did those men get divorced?
Nice, being a pedant is constructive. Moron
>meant to sage for OT
This is not cc or lc you doofus.
You claimed 1 in 5 women are raped. The HIGHEST EVER RECORDED IN THE WHOLE OF EUROPE WAS 80000 incidents in ONE WHOLE YEAR.
You are more likely to be hit by a car than to be raped, statistically. This argument NEEDS TO FUCKING DIE. Oh, and by the way, the shitskins YOU ARE IMPORTING are doing most of the raping. Have fun.
Over 80% of the divorce cases were instigated by women. Ask women. They got out with half their spouse's networth and assets, their children and probably got their fuckbuddies to move in their spouse's own house after he was kicked out by the state.
When it happens to you, I hope you react like a gentleman though.
Okay, I wasn't clear. I was meaning that the 70 cents on the dollar or whatever is misleading propaganda, not what you were saying. That's my fault, I'm sorry.
And yes, I know the negotiation is part of it. Doesn't make it any less of a women problem. I wasn't blaming men, I just said it existed. I also wonder if the reason female managers get way less is a humanitarian thing on their part, but I don't want to assume all women are so compassionate and not as greedy. Maybe they just don't publicy flaunt it, I don't know.
As someone who doesn't really get along with a lot of other women, I am pretty critical of them. But the fact is I'm also a woman. My mom's a woman. My grandma is a woman, and she and her longtime guy friend are probably the smartest people I personally know. Getting along isn't turning men into weak sissies as the upboat site likes to do, and neither isn't quiet complacence of third world wives. I've seen what it looks like, and I wish it was more widespread.
Because if you can't tell me, I couldn't have helped any of them and neither could you. And if you're implying men are getting divorced more because woman bad and thus the suicides also fall on the women, that's conjecture. There's no evidence for that but your personal worldview. All that statistic implies is that men probably have it worse in divorce court, which adds up when you consider they also have more resources. The only real solution to that problem already exists:It's called a pre-nup, and it's individual protection against an individual's own risks, which prove my point. The proper level of analysis is individual. Justifying your victim complex with statistics is still useless and counterproductive.
Did you chuckfuck link me a study that proves my point and demolishes yours?
Are you that intellectually bankrupt? Did you read what you linked me? Holy shit.
The solution to that problem is called a prenup and it's only possible to deploy it on the individual level, not from a top-down societal perspective.
PRENUPS FALL UNDER JUDICIARY DISCRETION YOU CRETIN. THEY ARE FACTUALLY INADMISSIBLE UNLESS THE JUDGE ACTS BONA FIDE.
You have much more wisdom than is normally attributed to your sex. I have in mind a potential solution to these problems: What if we were to genetically engineer women to be equally strong and physically capable as men, and to also have male mindsets, and a predisposition for loyalty and honor and such things? Basically turn women into men with vaginas and wombs.
*neither is
>europe
>including Nordic countries with ridiculously high qol
>not to mention the earlier source posted by what I assume to be you but at least wasn't even me about how 1 in 5 women in the U.S. will be raped in their lifetime
I don't mind talking about all this but please stop pretending to be retarded.
Here we go with the anecdotes
>not all women are like that!
>I know women that are not like that!
>my mom is a saint!
Those don't actually count, hon.
>including Nordic countries
>high QOL
SWEEDEN IN NUMBER 1 IN RAPES YOU FUCKING CUNT, READ THE SOURCES I POST.
You know economics isn't clear cut and you have to actually read the whole thing?
I read the relevant parts. Women avoid OT, work flexible hours, work less hours and are a liability due to pregnancy.
Next.
You are not a female. I dont believe you.
What is an omega man to you? As in what is your personal definition.
There's a quote about how you can't just say all women suck if you love your mother. Because most people love their mother, who are just average women.
And Sweden isn't the only Nordic country, nor is it relevant since we're talking about the U.S., the rape statistics of which you posted before.
Yes, because even in 2018 plenty of women have children they primarily take care of. There are many single mothers who have children to take care of (not always rightfully so, so don't bother going there). Doesn't mean they should be making less money.