Before you ask your retarded question about babbys first cycle, make sure to read the fucking wiki. Yes it’s reddit, post a better one or shut the FUCK up nerd.
Also, include: >e-stats >age >time wasted lifting natty >height >weight >BF% >Amount of time you've been on gear without coming off, cruising or getting any form of bloodwork done >Penis Girth >Penis Length >Testicular volume (on/off) >Rice purity test score (ricepuritytest.com/)
Oral only cycles are cringe and bluepilled and you're a retard for considering them.
We can't help you dose your AI, it's different for everybody and there's a lot of factors at play. Figure it out yourself.
And most importantly,
NO SOURCE TALK (this isn't up for debate, you will be banned.)
previously on autists pretending to have BDD when they're really just skinnyfat:
My favorite chinese source shut down. Rip $25 for 10ml Test-E This makes me consider homebrewing. All I need is Deca and Test-E anyways. Is it worth it? The raws for those 2 seem CRAZY cheap compared to how much I pay even the cheap places. ($1 per gram of Test-E raw)
and if by the off chance you do knock someone up while on anything the deformity that will come out that womb will be unlike anything you've seen
Caleb Barnes
Can you kind fellas redpill me on steroids. The cons seem to outweigh the pros. >Getting big
But at what cost?
Juan Baker
none srs just do it pussy
Adam Roberts
early onset alzheimer's, heart failure, stroke, brain lesions, multiple sclerosis, ALS, prostate cancer, renal disease, diabetes, high cholesterol, high blood pressure, erectile dysfunction, cystic acne, hair loss, gynecomastia, Bell's palsy, etc.
yolo
Jace Mitchell
so reddit banned SST? what's the alternative these days
Justin Walker
google sst
Brody Adams
Guys please help I got a gram of MK677, but I read that it caused signs of congestive heart failure in some old fucks with history of heart problems. So how dangerous is MK677 compared to regular roids/growth hormone?
Asher Collins
lol if your heart can't stand babby sarms then just give up
Elijah Green
>chinese source holy shit you are a brave man hat off to you
no source talk you fucking retard delete this comment for your own good before you get b& var and HGH and some peptides are also neuroprotective, do you run those with it?
just luck or the effects are vastly overblown and you need to be running something like 250 test 1400 tren for years on end for it to even be noticeable
Lincoln Carter
It still gets metabolised, but much slower, instead of having it sit in your hepatic portal vein taking a big shit on your liver all at once
Like having two beers every day instead of having nothing during the week and fifteen shots in an hour on Friday night
Jaxson Young
Ur brain is alrdy mush you autistic anime poster kys. No sane person is that fixated on fkin anime
Daniel Gonzalez
Being insane is leagues different from being a dumbass. My brain's probably a bit squishy from all the anime.
Joked aside, if you're into fat, good for you enjoy it what you want but don't force it down everyone's throat.
Robert Phillips
Mathematically speaking, I'll have a robot body and computer brain by the time my body gives out. Better to live like a king and become a God than to live like a slob and then become a god
Brayden Thompson
>*THE OTHER LOVER >Why I vetted my wife's affair fucking hell I'm gonna start believing (((they))) have an agenda
Hunter Diaz
>88 kek I'm a huge degenerate and have fucked all kinds of nigs, chinks, ethnics, etc done all sorts of drugs and all that shit but I would happily have a far right regime come in and cleanse all the real scum at this point even if it means I have to live a more boring life
>cheating unless you compete in a drug tested sport using PEDs isn't "cheating" at anything this dyel natty SJW cope needs to end already
Matthew Edwards
Thanks lol, saved me the effort If you inject orals trust me you'll feel the difference, much easier on the body for longer. Just more expensive.
kek y?
Kevin Young
tren makes me happy and i do not think i want to stop after 10 weeks also if tren E takes some time to build up does it mean I also get the effect more time after I stop it?
Eli Kelly
only for like a week if that run it for 20 weeks to get that bodybuilder look like GH15 recommends
Angel Hall
I noticed the tren effects wore off in about a week After 2 it felt like it was completely out
Lucas Stewart
daily reminder you don't need more than 400mg/wk test to get big and jacked as fuck hell, 300mgs will make you superhuman by itself, if you do it long enough
you've used tren? no offence but you don't look like it >actually believing the self reported doses of people in the industry who are "open" about their gear use yeah and Larry Wheels only uses 500mg of test with 100mg adrol
Camden Gonzalez
Did you watched the video? 300-400 To maintain the muscles. Not to get to the point where they are now. Basically a long cruise
Fucking retard
Joshua Myers
This guy is a hero spreading white genes through africa.
Josiah Gonzalez
elite levels of test are like 1000ng/dl. 400mgs should put you over 3000ng/dl.
If you can't get big and ripped with 3x elite level test running through you, then you fail at lifting.
Should get to like 230lbs, 10% bf, at 6'0.
Nathan Robinson
230 10% at 6' isn't big or ripped you fucking dyel
Brody Flores
they're maintaining mass monster, elite level bodybuilder size with 400mgs....
Jaxon Richardson
>230 10% at 6' isn't big or ripped you fucking dyel The absolute state of body dysmorphia on /fraud/
This guy is 230 10% at 6'0, and anyone in their right mind would consider him big and ripped, for day to day purposes and for any sport. He's not gonna win bodybuilding shows, but he's gonna mog 99.9% of the population.
Alright kind of a stupid question and not actually *roid* related per se but I'm considering falling for the SARM meme, probably once I hit 600lbs DL which should happen in a few months, just so I can say I did it natty, beltless, strapless, on a stiff bar, the whole thing. I just want to be strong and I'm realizing there's really no point in lifting natty, It's as stupid as lifting food or sleep deprived. Every source says S4 is the best SARM for strength, so I'll probably do that.
My question is, do you people just order these things online? SARMs are illegal where I live (france) yet there are websites that sell them. Are those scams? Is my package gonna get inspected? I mean I know you can order shrooms and all kinds of drugs on some not-hard-to-find websites so I guess this is not different? Don't post sources obviously but how the fuck am I supposed to get that stuff? (you)s appreciated from EU-cucks in particular.
I could also just ask the biggest guy at my gym but chances are he doesn't have access to that particular chemical compound...
Gavin Davis
but the "look" roids give you is way superior, even if you're at the same height/weight/bf
Robert Phillips
research chems are legal to buy/sell in most countries but illegal to consume, not for human consumption
sarms are garbage, weak and the long-term sides aren't understood well, also they are made by shady companies who underdose, overdose and mix crap in them
Parker Gomez
just use solo test, its clean and healthy go get pharma grade or dont bother
Jordan Anderson
>research chems are legal to buy/sell in most countries but illegal to consume, not for human consumption not in mine I don't think t b h I just read that I didn't risk getting ED or becoming a baldcel from SARMs, I haven't looked a lot into it and might change my mind since I'm not there yet yeah but do you know if it can be bought online in the EU? like, personally, do you guys buy them from a guy you know or off the internet?
Joseph Young
You'll probably kill yourself.
Sounds very scientific to me. The point stands, you don't need steroids at all to get big and jacked. If you want to roid look obviously you need roids but that wasn't the original statement.
99% of people who do roids/SARMs order them online. SARMs are not illegal in most countries, they're a grey area.
1 week in sdrol and I got mired by my escort. feelsgoodman
Nathan Hill
basically the muscle gains will be non-existent after 4 years, snail pace, except minor strength gains. You'll look the same year to year.
if you want to get hard/ripped you will look dyel in a t-shirt.
if you want to be big, you'll look bloated and soft.
it's no fun lifting for decades to simply mainting a "natural physique"
also roids give you other benefits, in terms of mood, libido and appetite, injury recovery and so forth
Thomas Gomez
#goals
Parker Nguyen
post impressive nattys over 6 feet tall i'll wait
>inb4 bugen
William Harris
Body dysmorphia at it's finest. Most people at their natty peak I would say could impress 99% of people. Taking steroids just to impress that extra 1% is not advisable.
All the 'other benefits' you describe are subjective and can be had with TRT not supraphysiological doses. Steroids are a pandora's box. They cost money, they're illegal, they hurt your health, they require other drugs to keep sides in check and they require constant monitoring.
TRT at a high natural dose you could say is advisable. It is advisable for people who want more past their natural limit but suggesting everyone after 3-4 years go on steroids is dumb.
>99% of people who do roids/SARMs order them online. SARMs are not illegal in most countries, they're a grey area. thanks, I'll try it when the time comes then. although apparently Jow Forums's general consensus on S-4 is that it's not worth it? I know that during a cycle you can get weird sight related side effects, but what's the issue other than that?
>get more test because you started running out >open new vial of test >inject >get pip >second pin of the week >get pip >your wrists are starting to hurt
Coincidence? Now im afraid that my test is bunk. My last shot of "legit" gear was last thursday. Should i do bloods tommorow or wait it out or something? I could check e2 only and if it's too low it would be obvious that gear is bunk because i've got my ai doses dialed in but new ai might be stronger or gear is weaker or any other combination of these. What do?
>impregnated 600 Based Pierre doing his part to bleach the gene pol
Aaron Turner
so what are the odds i will find a woman like this again now that my gf is leaving me?
>cooks, cleans, does laundry, packs my meals, i dont need to lift a finger at home, i dont even need to walk over to the fridge or kitchen
>good fucking
>frugal spends almost no money at all
>supports my bodybuilding/roiding hobby
serious question, are there a lot of women like that out there? she's not that beautiful
William Powell
literally my current gf she's from south east asia, and pretty good looking but a womanlet. my friend married a thai girl, very similar. again also short as heck.
only downside is they are super clingy/jealous, merely saying "hi" and smiling at other females in public gets them on edge.
and the prospect of making manlet babies is lame...but overall ive had good experiences with women raised in south east asia.
Dominic Scott
how do I get a black gf? there's this 5'11" massai huntress in one of my classes and I fear it has ignited something within me.
Liam Walker
do you want to be superhuman or not
Jacob Ross
the good looking, smart black girls usually have white boyfriends already.
the other black girls are literal hookers, psychos and soulless machines you should stay away from. There's no middle ground with them.
Camden Evans
>non-existent after 4 years, snail pace, except minor strength gains. You'll look the same year to year.
user, 2-5 years depending on how hard you train is not your "natural peak". You natural peak is when you simply are not putting on muscle no matter what and you are going down hill with age. That's your peak
What you and most other people are describing is the end of the fun easy noob gains where you just can do any old dumb bullshit and gain muscle and strength. That's not your peak. That's where lifting, where training, where the road to becoming a better you actually begins. The gains you get after the always fun and exciting honeymoon phase of training is over are the ones that will last you forever. The ones that will be there even when all of the rest of that shit is gone. You'll still gain mass, you'll still gain strength. It will be slower but it will be hard earned and hard to lose and will put you above nearly all men.
If you get on gear when you are 2-5 even 10 years deep into your REAL TRAINING then you'll speed past every single boston loyd and zyzz tier dumbfuck wimp who just jumped on gear in their first month in the gym or when playing sports.
That's a fact.
Brayden Roberts
hence I said Put in 3-4 years of actual gains lifting (after 1-2 years of learning/messing around noob stuff), then stop messing around with "natty lifting", it's a waste of time and effort. Like a farmer trying to grow crops without using fertilizer.
Jose Williams
Goin on gear after not spending another few years struggling to cement gains and learn how to train correctly and reaping the small benefits from that is more like a farmer trying to grow crops in only fertilizer.
Carson Campbell
that's retarded and you know it.
Bentley Watson
>pinning left quad >quad fully tenses up like 5 times while pinning Every fuckin time. Time to grab the heating pack and lay there for an hour
