ITT: We post contradictions that normies say:

user, you're not a communist are you?

>people are selfish and attention-seeking
>people need to feel that they are worth something

>people sleep around and don't commit
>people are afraid that they'll regret their choice of partner later in life

here's something irritating about normies, there is duality in people when they want but everything is black and white when it comes to racist sexist overweight incel virgins.

now you're just strawmanning me. what you're saying is basically
>people can't be sad and happy, they are either sad all the time or happy all the time

i was saying you guys give everyone the benefit of the doubt except those who cannot get laid, those who cannot get laid you hypocritically assume the worst of to support your beliefs about the world being a fair enough place and you working for what you have.

I have not said anything about virgins in this thread.

Be nice to other people. But beat out the competition!

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fair, i'm kind of projecting on you, sorry.

i have observed the same, i agree with everything you posted
normalfags piss me off

How?

Current neoliberal economies says that cooperation is a weakness, not a strength. Competitions make better competitors. Current society is self-destructive and reinforces one over the other by default.

Thus what you're saying is a contradiction of terms.

>"The grass only appears greener on the other side. Be yourself and work hard and you'll find happiness within."
>"Money doesn't mean a lot."
- People who live on the greener side and were born owning everything and never had to work for anything

What I am saying is that people are both self-interested and social. So to a degree they will work together and to a degree they will compete. You can't completely remove either.

Please think before you post you brain dead shit

t. whiny bitch

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You're mixing up self-interest and individuality with competition and greed.

One is self respect, the other is a social ill, like murder (which is caused by competition and greed).

Greed and competetion are symptoms of self-interest.

I care about animals.
I eat animal products.

>sex isn't important
>sex is just as important as eating or sleeping

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This is only true if you're a vain, narcissistic bully edgelord with a giant ego and a taste for violence, sure.

But that wouldn't happen to be you, would it? :^)

Cooperation is also a symptom of self-interest and arguably the better one because you're not always trying to crush your enemies in a death match. Cooperating is obviously the smarter path for survival.

>"men and women are equals"
>"user, women are just different"

No, it's true for normal human beings. It is how we developed evolutionarily.

>just be yourself
>not that much though

>looks don't matter
>everyone has their preferences

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>"men and women are equal."
>"feminism."

Yeah >normies

Competition stops being useful for self-interest once you fight someone you can't win against (usually requiring a group). Then its not very respectful for the individual and a bad, bad idea.

Also humans evolved in cooperative structures, even when they had to compete against outsiders. No man is an island.

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Yeah people have both traits.

they glow in the dark
good meme

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>yeah i'm right even when i was proven wrong
stop and leave the thread pls

>proven wrong
You are really dense, aren't you? Sometimes people work together, sometimes they compete. That's what I have been saying and you basically said it yourself in your last post.
I was being polite to you by humoring your stupidity, but it's clear to everyone, I'd imagine, that you are brain dead.

No, people work together to compete. At best, they don't compete "alone" unless you live your entire life inside a boxing ring.

You're missing the point dingalingdong.

People also compete within a group.

Which brings us to the contradiction you fail to acknowledge.

It's not a contradiction. I can work together with one person against a third person and later compete with the guy I was working together with.
Human behavior is not just what you want it to be.

>Morality is a spook, individuals should work in their own interest
>Capitalist exploitation of labour is bad

>greed and competition
>ripping a society apart
see, the problem with you commie brainlets is you have an adolescent view of the world

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AKA you're a backstabber. No problem.

But that means that you're only competing, not cooperating.

"Own interest" with other egoists.

Not really. Let's say you're ooga boogas and your tribe work together to bring down a mammoth. That's cooperation. Now there's also a really cute female ooga booga and you and your cousin are both interested in her, so you compete with each other to win her favor. That's competition.

What's wrong with exploiting the workers with my fellow egoists if it's in my own interest though?

Because its in their own interest is not to be exploited in the first place, which makes them egoists working together to fight asshats like you.

>ooga boogas
>bring down mammoth

21st century problems.

>implying you both just can't fuck her
There's plenty of holes for everyone.

What if me and my other fellow egoists recruit an army of egoists to enslave the workers and exploit their labour? That's completely fine?

No, obviously.

You're just recreating wage slavery / slavery / capitalism and should expect resistance aka egoists.

But what's wrong with slavery?

Another trait humans have evolved is they don't like sharing mates. They get jealous.

It's not a contradiction. Competition is part of socialization as is knowing when to compete, when to cooperate, and they're how you earn respect. Socializing doesn't mean everyone holding hands around to campfire singing kumbaya all the time, agression in the appropriate forms at the appropriate times are very much part of our societies well within social norms.

>But what's wrong with slavery?
10/10 I laughed.

No, really. What's wrong with slavery?

so it turns out you weren't actually able to get over morality. sad.

Another brainlet tried this.
See:

Slavery is not freedom ya big dummies. This has nothing to do with morality.

Also Stiner quotes explain this:

>"Now, on the contrary, when every one is to cultivate himself into man, condemning a man to machine-like labor amounts to the same thing as slavery. If a factory-worker must tire himself to death twelve hours and more, he is cut off from becoming man. Every labor is to have the intent that the man be satisfied. [...] His labor is nothing taken by itself, has no object in itself, is nothing complete in itself; he labors only into another's hands, and is used (exploited) by this other."

tl;dr you're just anarcho-capitalists / propertarians who try to be clever and fail

What about the freedom of the slaver to enslave?

all he is saying is that working for someone is akin to slavery. he is not saying anything about slavery being bad. you really are stupid.

>he labors only into another's hands, and is used (exploited) by this other."
What's wrong with this? If I were to "assert myself as holder" of a person then surely I am the "I am the proprietor of the thing"

You do not have the freedom to deny others freedom without being an authoritarian, which you obviously are.

Pretty pathetic m8, just delve back into nazism or something.

>you do not have freedom to deny others freedom
you're contradicting yourself, idiot. you either have freedom or you don't.

Slavery =/= freedom.

You're just making the same capitalist claim that people are voluntarily slaves in the free market, ignoring inequality and state oppression.

You are a dummy. Go reread Stiner or Henry Ford or whatever it is you do.

Yeah for the one enslaved. It's not like my freedom is dependent on your freedom.

>You do not have the freedom to deny others freedom
What's stopping me? The only limit on the rights of me enslaving people is my power to obtain what I desire.

he's gonna call you a bad person and pretend that's an argument.

Wrong.
Double wrong.

Your freedom isn't boundless, but one met in equality, solidarity and common affinity, especially with regards to the class struggle. Which is why there is a "union" of egoists - as in the entire population.

You can only be as free as your fellow man.

For example, today the goal is to be as rich as Jeff Bezos, but even he is bound by the rules, morality and laws of the state and capitalism. Therefore, he is ultimately unfree.

God damn brainlets like you need more study.

What's stopping you is the freedom of individuals to resist authority and oppression.

>Your freedom isn't boundless, but one met in equality, solidarity and common affinity, especially with regards to the class struggle.
You sound like a preacher. I say no to all your rules. I'm free to fuck you over. You are free to play word games and pretend it matters to anyone. You are nothing but a moralist.

>What's stopping you is the freedom of individuals to resist authority and oppression.
Got it, "nothing". There is absolutely nothing stopping me from enslaving and raping people except for the fact that "they can resist".

It's not rules but one you'll find in practice and action.

You're free to fuck anyone over but for those who can cooperate in mutual association, you'll get fucked over.

With that isolationist attitude, you won't even make it past capitalist or state slavery which is enemy number one. toplel

Ah, but you see user I'm working with other individuals who have deemed it in their interest to work with me to enslave people and force them to do labour for us. And because we have the power to do this there is nothing stopping us.

I don't know how a moronic retard like you is going to prevent anyone from anything.

I think I have the right to be bitter being handed the shorter end of the stick at all walks of my life unlike everyone else who'd won the lottery ticket to a better life right from the start.
All civilisations in history were built off the backbone of a disposable labour force. Unlike the feudal era, modern slavery takes the guise of post industrial society where the exploiters don't even have to worry about the welfare of the labour. The labour remains subjugated, earning meagre wage, providing for its own food and shelter while the ruling class proliferates.

Basically you guys are arguing "hey i'm free to recreate feudalism!"

Which you are, until the peasant uprising.

If you aren't capitalists right now, then you have a slave mentality and definitely not fit to handle freedom.

Nice LARPing but we both know you don't have any friends.

So you have the right to be a whiny bitch? Interesting.

You're so unbelievably dense. You keep using phrases like "you should" and "you're not fit to", and you insist you're not a moralist. Talk about ironic that you'd make such a retarded thread and spend it doing nothing but contradict yourself.

>Only a science-denying republican would be against evolution
>Evolution applies to every animal but the human races because muh feelings

>until the peasant uprising
Almost all peasant uprisings failed though and ended with thousands of dead peasants and the leaders executed. You don't have an argument against slavery except that "the people are allowed to revolt lol"
> Nice LARPing but we both know you don't have any friends.
But we're not friends, just a group of like-minded individuals

You can't enslave people without using the very morality you rebel against. Checkmate.

Not sure what you mean
Holy fuck this captcha is so slow jesus christ
>click on all the cars
>cars take like 10 seconds to disappear
>click on all the street signs
>have to go through fifteen fucking street signs before I'm able to click verify

Most women are fiscal socialists but sexual anarcho-capitalists. They're all for the government taking money from the rich, but if the government were to force them to have sex with the sexually poor: the very ugly, autistic and so on, they'd throw a fit, even though them being sexually taxed by the government for the improvement of the lives of the sexual poor lines up directly with their socialist values.

Seize the means of production? Yay. Seize the means of reproduction? Nay.

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Download clover on your phone.
Shitposting should never stop.

>Just be yourself
>Stop being weird

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>lol your passion is videogames? get a life loser
>my hobbies are fucking random sluts, ""traveling"" and flipping burgers 8 hours a day