When you think about it you come to the realization that a simple fact like >tfw no gf can turn a seemingly normal...

But they choose this.

its already common knowledge, any animal goes "insane" if deprived of any kind of reproduction

but what is there to do ? marriage and thus equal distribution was deeply grounded in christian beliefs which are NANI ? already...

>are you saying i'm supposed to get along because people have had it worse than me or that i need to lose my virginity to be a productive member of society?
???
i'm saying that people still went through the same shit "incels" or whatever go through despite having the things "incels" claim to need in order to not go through those things
the thing i failed to mention was to include the examples of people who lead happy and fulfilling lives without having sex or significant others, this can range from cripples who physically can't have sex, to religious people to "volcels"
>inb4 volcels are happy because eventually they find the one
ironic because the implication here is that they are miserable until that point, however you can see plenty of such peope, both online and irl who live the happiest lives into their late 20's without ever experiencing sex or intimate relationships
>i don't think it will improve my life, but i've seen first hand the ease that all women have with dating, that some men have with dating. if all women didn't have so much power to get laid easily i wouldn't care, i'd find myself a fellow loser girl to enjoy life with, but loser girls don't exist. no girl exists with the impediment to ability to get laid that i have, that much i can be sure of above all else. i'm not going to be one of the few who has to work harder because it doesn't even work to work harder. the people who work harder are constantly competing with someone who doesn't even need to try and they're fucking cucks for it.
and here you again just give "sex" this grand meaning, like it's a cure potion for all the problems in life
here's a critical thinking experiment for you
>go on a suicide/depression forum where people talk about their experience without simply not wanting to live life and its manifestation in whichever way possible
>ask how many of them are virgins
>experience first hand hundreds/thousands of replies from people who've had sex and had it fix nothing

on the same forums then ask how many people's problems were solved by having sex or how many people in similar situations they know who had their problems solved by sex and enjoy the crickets

>cripples lead perfectly happy lives despite their inability
fucking dropped so fast, i should've realized you were a brainlet it was really obvious

that's just because you fail to realize that happiness can manifest in more than a single manner, often times completely different to the way you percive it
cripples while suffering in life from inconvenience also manage to lead happy lives, which is evident in their constant pursuit of a place in society, they enjoy video games, social lives, careers etc
amazing how resilient the human spirit is, isn't it? that even a cripple can manage to find their own self and their little slice of happiness while you can't because, get this, you never out your peepee in a veevee

you are genuine pseud scum, you know fucking nothing. no cripple wants to be a cripple. you are whacked out on that low iq shit dude.

You were already evil. Not getting your way just brought it out in you.

how said anything about them wanting to be a cripple, you mong?
i said they manage to find happiness in life despite their undisputed shitty situation in it
while you bitch and moan about your "shitty" life when in fact nothing is even wrong with it despite a single lack of a single experience
where do you get off on saying i have a low iq you literal brick wall

are you implying all cripples do that? for every cripple that has a regular life there are 10 living on their disability checks and nigh-shut ins. i used to play vidya with a guy in a wheelchair who had over 6000 hours on the game we played.

obviously not
however if you take those who do that as an example you get the proof that happiness isn't a 10/10 type of deal, you can get it with much less, while suffering much more
if you take those who don't you get those with a good enough excuse
>he's a cripple so he literally, physically in all manners possible can't take part in life as it's desired by the average folk around, so if they fail to find their own place in the world they can't fall back onto the herd, this while already being largely limited in their pursuit of self
however you're the one who takes the cause without the effect, sex, or lack thereof isn't a limiting notion, you can't claim inability to run/inability to work/inability to pursue a goal/hobby/dream because you lack the experience of sex
your plight in life is essentially that some people get sex easier than you, well then i guess chad should in the same position as you because some nerd got into harward and became a successful lawyer while he's doomed to work as a mechanic for the rest of their life?

so your advice equivocates to get over it like i said at the beginning of my rant. well fuck off with your bluepill shit normie.

>don't get over it: remain in the se miserable position
>get over it: take a new path in life and a
see where it leads you
gee i dunno, if i weren't the wiser i'd think i want to have an excuse as to why you're a loser instead of facing life and at least trying to take control
but nah, my advice is to stop blaming your patheticness on lack of sex as it's mostly the outcome not the cause

i don't think i'm not pathetic, i just have too much dignity to make a fool of myself trying when i'm pathetic. you realize your logic is the same for the rich telling the poor to get over it? i bet we can blame you and people like you for this economically fucked world where 20% of people own 80% of wealth because you're a cuck who thinks everyone should get over unfairness. i'm sure you'd also prefer black people to be oppressed by white people.

i thought i was in the majority here when i talk about being a non-functioning mentally ill hikki neet who went through literal torture but then i realized that most robots who call themselves that can't relate at all. it took a response to my posts to make me realize it. whenever i talk about anything in my life i get responses like "how is that possible??" and "go to a therapist". i'm curious about what things you feel like most robots can't relate to

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i should've figured you were a commie
i actually almost made a comment saying something like "with your mindset you probably also thing communism can work as well"
it's okay, i guess you'll just remain miserable until the day you die, and you couldn't have done anything about it, god forbid you made a fool of yourself along the way, that could've been really embarrassing, huh?
what type of torture are we talking about?
my experience is mostly dealing with mental issues, manipulative emotionally abusive parents, being homeless and the like

>commie
according to polls the ideal wealth control of the top 20% is more than twice what americans think it should be, and the top 1% controls several times what americans think they should (more than 20%).

on the note of communism, the first civilization was communist. before the rise of kings everyone served the local priest who conferred with the local god. for thousands of years people lived as slaves to their city communities and it literally kick started everything we have today.

i don't believe in it myself more than meritocracy but we don't have a meritocracy, and that's the crux of your arguement, that things are fair ENOUGH. but they aren't fair enough. to every girl sex with hundreds of men is a tap of their finger away. to EVERY girl. i don't want to bother competing with that power because i'm not a stupid cuck. all of your arguments fucking suck, not all cripples are happy, working hard isn't the best option for all of us, fuck you.

>all of your arguments fucking suck, not all cripples are happy, working hard isn't the best option for all of us, fuck you.
i never said it was, i told you i never said it was, we went past it and now you go back full circle, i don't want to call you stupid, but what else do you call such behavior
as for communism, i'm glad you accept that communism is essentially slavery to a powerful overlord, i totally see how such life is better than simply elite that have more than everyone combined but everyone individually, who isn't a complete brainlet still has more themselves than they need/know what to with
life isn't fair, it never was, never will be and it shouldn't be, it has nothing to do with your ability to shape your life at least in the direction you want it to go in
>i'm not a cuck
said the cuck who for all he knows can be the next elon musk, bill gates or countless other losers turned doctors, lawyers, ceos etc etc etc who simply kept at it
this is so pathetic because you aren't even challenging my points nor making your own, you have no factual argument for anything, all you do is say that women get sex easily and that your life sucks because if it, you're not just a cuck for letting something as minute as sex control your life to the point of giving up on it because the lack thereof, but also a stupid one at that for seeing life from such a narrow perspective

>nobody is allowed to deny things
Not him but even someone with the smoothest of brains (me) knows you're a fucking retard

>manipulative emotionally abusive parents
yeah this is the worst, i can't diagnose anyone and my parents don't believe in mental illness (at least not within the family) but i suspect my mom is some sort of extreme bpd narcissist. all the furniture in my house gets completely destroyed every once in a while by her and she literally tries to murder me and my father and very occasionally a stranger in the street or something
>being homeless
i was, twice in my life. once when i was too young to remember it and the second time i got locked away in the psych ward for several months so i didn't really get to experience it. did you sleep outside or in a car or something? i'm sorry you had to go through this
>what type of torture are we talking about?
okay let me think of what i can remember. i've been beaten, stabbed, strangled and drowned then revived and then drowned again multiple times, water boarded, locked outside the house with absolutely no clothes in the middle of winter for hours, been held down and had people take turns stepping on my face and spitting on me, had needles pierced through my skin and been forced to eat mud/ some of a dead possum among some other things. some of the torture from my parents and some from schoolmates. the aftermath is i'm extremely agoraphobic, have a huge stutter/tremor problem, get seizures from my panic attacks, have crazy visual/ tactile hallucinations and have nightmares every night. i don't have a single person i can talk to besides anons and it kind of sucks i'm even feeling isolated on r9k.

again, where did i say no one is allowed to deny anything?
denying something without any counter arguments or evidence is just silly, that other user said so themselves
you have a perspective that isn't supported by anything but your skewed, contrived and predisposed perspective on life and you just accept and follow it blindly, no wonder yall life's suck as much as they do, just your average "it's the jews" mentality

>the majority of people on Jow Forums aren't actually mentally ill/come from a fucked up back ground that justifies being a complete wreck

Mental illness doesn't work like that. The top, the bottom, the middle, and anybody in between those are subject to factors for mental illness. Orphans can be as lonely as a trust fund babby who can't talk to the "normal" kids. They can have diets that mess with gut biomes so that they send fucked up signals to the brain. They are all capable of being born with genetics that fuck with the poorly understood brain and its chemistry.

Nobody needs to justify their mental illness. In fact, nobody needs to justify finding themselves in a fucked up place in life. Live YOUR life because it's the only one you're going to get (or use escapism which is what I recommend). You don't need to do it because it will help you reach higher, but the fact of the mater is, no matter how unfair the hand you've been dealt is, you're not going to get dealt a different one - you're just not.

Besides, if you're not a virgin then you don't belong on Jow Forums. Get the fuck out you normienigger

>again, where did i say no one is allowed to deny anything?
>i'm not a cuck
>said the cuck! LoL!

Also
>you have a perspective that isn't supported by anything but your skewed, contrived and predisposed perspective on life and you just accept and follow it blindly, no wonder yall life's suck as much as they do, just your average "it's the jews" mentality
I'm literally a totally new user in this thread just pointing out the bullshit in what you're saying
>your average "it's the jews" mentality
I think it's bullshit too, but don't let me stop you from just labelling me as some poltard simply because I criticized your response to a different user

to the user(s) i've been arguing with, note exhibit a please compare
>okay let me think of what i can remember. i've been beaten, stabbed, strangled and drowned then revived and then drowned again multiple times, water boarded, locked outside the house with absolutely no clothes in the middle of winter for hours, been held down and had people take turns stepping on my face and spitting on me, had needles pierced through my skin and been forced to eat mud/ some of a dead possum among some other things. some of the torture from my parents and some from schoolmates. the aftermath is i'm extremely agoraphobic, have a huge stutter/tremor problem, get seizures from my panic attacks, have crazy visual/ tactile hallucinations and have nightmares every night. i don't have a single person i can talk to besides anons and it kind of sucks i'm even feeling isolated on r9k
to your unironic
>tfw no gf
however i'm too tired to keep making the same points so i'll just answer the user i'm quoting
your life situation is definitely extreme and while i met some people with similar experiences during my homeless period i can't claim to have went through nearly as much
i slept on the streets mostly, i didn't have a car, i ended getting a job, getting fired from it because i couldn't keep up with it while being homeless, getting another job and saving enough money to rent a place of my own, i haven't gotten over my mental illnesses but i completely disconnected myself from my "family" which definitely helped at least partially
sorry for your experiences, user, sounds rough

>Nobody needs to justify their mental illness. In fact, nobody needs to justify finding themselves in a fucked up place in life. Live YOUR life because it's the only one you're going to get (or use escapism which is what I recommend). You don't need to do it because it will help you reach higher, but the fact of the mater is, no matter how unfair the hand you've been dealt is, you're not going to get dealt a different one - you're just not
so you're saying what i'm saying?
have you even read the thread?
jesus i'm so done with the brainlets in here, this wasn't even supposed to be a challenging discussion, how are you people managing to miss the point so many times over?

Sometimes I just want to have sex with every bitter virgin on this board so they can make something of their lives.

>I'm literally a totally new user in this thread just pointing out the bullshit in what you're saying
and the thrid person doing the same shit in this thread again
user, i want you to critisize my points, please do so, but saying
>your points are wrong
is not critisizm, you need to make a statement, provide reasons, evidence, facts, something

It's actually perfectly fine for me to accuse you of being weasel for trying to accuse him of being a thing because he denied being a thing.

>however you can see plenty of such peope, both online and irl who live the happiest lives into their late 20's without ever experiencing sex or intimate relationships

no, you really don't. people like you just mention shit like this with no evidence on the off chance that it's real, but it's not.

i firmly believe that the vast majority of people find romantic success before they're 25 or so, but you're not addressing those people here.

>Nobody needs to justify their mental illness.
>all goes out the window just because you, a completely average human being, haven't had the chance to have mediocre sex for a few minutes
>however you can see plenty of such peope, both online and irl who live the happiest lives into their late 20's without ever experiencing sex or intimate relationships

Maybe I phrased it poorly, but you seem to have it out for people with different opinions living their life. Do you not see where our points of view seem to contradict? It's as if you're saying these people shouldn't behave the way they do because they aren't justifying their emotions properly. I could understand if you're only refuting calls to violence, because I'm with you on that. However, you lumped in people who are empty and unproductive into the same category. They don't need any justification to feel or say anything.

>thing has a definition (in this case an internet meme definition)
>user claims to not be said thing
>i claim user is actually the thing by providing several points that make user, in fact, the thing as per the definition
sorry, you're just as dumb as he is

Here's the difference you dumb fuck:
A cripple has something to blame for their shortcomings, a fucking robot/incel/virgin or whatever you want to call them have to blame their being with the burden of being otherwise "normal". It's a huge fucking difference that you're too dumb to see.

>a fucking robot/incel/virgin or whatever you want to call them have to blame

Are you in the third world living under a warlord? Nobody's living under a warlord and nobody's under oath here. We don't have to blame anything for anything. If you don't like what they're saying, feel free to check the top-right corner of your Internet browser for a big, red X button.

If you are a 170cm male, the society (le joker maymay) rejects you basically. How can I compete if a girl doesnt see me as male, heck they are even disgusted of me just due to existing.

>i claim user is actually the thing by providing several points that make user, in fact, the thing as per the definition
>implying you weren't going to try and weasel your way out by shifting goalposts
You're so dumb it's actually cute user

if all you're are saying is that i shouldn't critisize people for thinking differently to me then i'm with you on it 100%
i believe life is circumstantial and people's opinions are manifestations of their own personal experiences
however this isn't the case when the plain opinion is just logically inconsistent/wrong
if someone claimed
>elephants have big hears so they could fly
you'd correct them, despite the fact that their notion that elephants have big ears isn't wrong, just their reasoning why (probably) and definitely not because you don't like them having an opinion per se
no, you're too dumb to understand the difference between an actual struggle, and "not having your way"
otherwise you're saying what i'm saying, except that you somehow compare a person's physical inability to exists as a normal human and someone's late start at the act of having sex
i'll give you a pass, assuming that this board is for the socially isolated bunch, but you'll just have to take my word on the fact that these people exist and there are plenty of them out there, you either go out and meet them yourself or you can scout the web and find more than enough to satisfy your disbelief

i had a mate in school who was 5'6 (at 18) and was a turbo chad who pretty much was a caricature of a "cool guy" from a coming of age movie
i recently met him again and he's still 5'6, still chad so i dunno

your attempt at shitposting and trying to aggravate me is pathetic
next you're going to say ">saying that something i disagree with is "bait" blah blah
don't even try to deny it brainfart

>and trying to aggravate me is pathetic
You're so fucking wrong
I was starting to think I misjudged you then you go and make up all that retarded shit kek

i can only imagine the amount of veins that are on the verge of popping on your forehead right now after your failed baiting attempt
post a pic
until you do i won't be replying to you anymore

>admit i might have misjudged you
>baiting attempt
wew you really like mischaracterizing me just to make a point.
enjoy your analanguish user!

the >tfw no gf part is more about feeling lonely and rejected by being denied what's considered the most natural thing in life, love, than about having a gf for the sake of having a gf. it's like when sjws villainize virgins for being entitled to sex but it's really more about feeling unvalued

Too much of nothing can make a man go insane.

And too much of nothing
Can make a man a liar
It can 'cause one man to sleep on nails
It can 'cause others to eat fire
Everybody's doin' somethin'
I heard it in a dream
But when there's too much of nothing
It just makes a fella mean

The only good thing about your post is that you got trips. Grats user

my post is simple. emptiness and isolation are the most dangerous things for the mind.
Robots feel like they have no affection, like they're missing the most human need.

That emptiness can ruin a man.

Kek sorry I was rude. But yeah I agree

I strongly believe that I have ASPD, no, this isn't your typical "Lol I'm a psychopath" post, I seriously think I might have ASPD, it sucks. I've had a couple chances with girls but I can't really form any sort of bond with people, and I don't really care about it either, it kind of sucks because my friends seem so happy with their girlfriends, makes me wonder how my life would be like if I too could feel those cravings to be with a girl in a relationship, I enjoy sex, but doing all that relationship stuff? Fuck no, seems so annoying, I focus most of my time on my hobbies and alone, and I have no complaints.

Lately I've started noticing that my whole personality is kind of like a robot, I say whatever I feel like saying, it's like I feel no shame or any of that stuff. I could ask any girl out, talk to them about anything, etc etc, but everything feels so bland and pointless.

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its very hard for people to deal with negative experiences with women over and over again and be alone for all their lives.
I'm 24 now, and the time keeps going on. As it does i have another failed attempt at trying to connect with someone.

This nothingness can break a man and turn him into something bitter. Women will never understand this, as even average females will have guys show interest in them. To be an incel/robot today means being completely unapproached by females. We may as well be invisible.

All i can do is try to look away from the void I have.Some men don't have anything else to hope for, or can't keep their minds off the emptiness and they become consumed by it.

>or can't keep their minds off the emptiness and they become consumed by it
I think this is the primary one for most of the vitriol-spewing, there-is-no-hope-so-don't-try, trying makes you a cuck, ones here

hope does seem quite slim for me at the moment.
I guess ill have to learn how to talk with women. I'm not good at approaching so any interest females have in me will never be discovered as they rarely approach. Doubt there's many takers anyway.

I just realize just because I cannot succeed with women doesn't mean i can't succeed in other areas in life. Which is why I try to stay positive.

Even half-hearted optimism is better than hardcore cynicism and negativity. I've lived years of hopeless negativity, and i never improved or grew with that mindset.

The fact that you're talking about it puts you so far ahead of the defeatist ones, who are themselves ahead of the vitriol spewing ones.
>Even half-hearted optimism is better than hardcore cynicism and negativity. I've lived years of hopeless negativity, and i never improved or grew with that mindset.
Indeed
But you will learn to talk with women user. Just don't try to nap a turbo stacy at a bar as your first attempt or something

i go for 5-6/10s but i dont have much luck with them because i dont approach strangers on the street. Only women im around with for work or school.

>work or school
try to join clubs user
short of that, try to sit with, ask to study with, or get into group projects with them qts
I dunno how you look (i'm definitely not good at it) but try to tress well, style your hair so you look put together

It seems like you are taking incels at their word when they say they have no problems except no gf.
>tfw no gf
Only becomes a major issue for people when they have other issues.