Wish I knew how to have conversations

They seem so fun. And it's an useful skill.

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Communication usually fails, except by accident.
If communication can fail, it will.
If communication cannot fail, it still most usually fails.
If communication seems to succeed in the intended way, there's a misunderstanding.
If you are content with your message, communication certainly fails.
If a message can be interpreted in several ways, it will be interpreted in a manner that maximizes the damage.
There is always someone who knows better than you what you meant with your message.
The more we communicate, the worse communication succeeds.
The more we communicate, the faster misunderstandings propagate.
In mass communication, the important thing is not how things are but how they seem to be.
The importance of a news item is inversely proportional to the square of the distance.
The more important the situation is, the more probably you forget an essential thing that you remembered a moment ago.

>see debaters talk with witty remarks, solid argumentation and awesome fact exposition
>imagine myself doing the same
>talk
>incoherent ramblings come out

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How did Elliot Rodger learn to do it? He never stuttered or got lost in verbal dead ends, though all he did was monologuing.
He sounded like he wrote a perfect script in his head seconds before translating it into words. I couldn't write this post without coming back and correcting shit.

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When you know what you want to say, why would you say anything else? Do you have Tourette's or something?

Yea same, I have nice thoughts in my head but when it has to come out it becomes word vomit and noone get's what the fuck I'm getting at.

>think and speak normally
>make eye contact
I can only choose one

That's what happens when you watch all those animes with subtitles and look at the subs instead of the anime faces. Try practicing looking at your anime girlfriends in the eye while they're talking, even if you can't understand them because you don't speak hiroshima survivor

Made me feel better to know you're more autistic than me at least

The main problem for me is having nothing to talk about. I don't have a life and am socially isolated so have nothing to talk about in that regard and have interests my peers aren't interested in. When you can't talk about any of that what is there to talk about?

You can write in imageboards, right? Conversation is very similar.

I tend to follow the morrowind approach and point out to things the person talked, so they elaborate infinitelly like I'm procedully generating a conversation.

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I'm a public speaker. Listen to me for I do not dispense advice willy nilly. Subtitles and closed captions are killing your communication skills.

I don't have hearing problems, I don't use subtitles. I just have normal social anxiety issues, have my entire life. Stop being autistic and thinking everybody is you

Yes, but imageboards is consequence free and separated by topic so you have people who have a general interest in the same things.

I can't post what i do here in similar terms to people in real life.

You're using the equivalent of subtitles right now. Words and ideas you can definitively understand because they exist as text and your responses that you can build, review and revise. Spoken language is free-flowing, nebulous. Not every word you will understand the meaning of right away no matter who you speak to, and not every idea you will express yourself will be understood. So you worry about that.

OK? I don't know why you're stating the obvious, of course it's easier to communicate on an imageboard where you can take time to think about your responses, never said it wasn't. You aren't breaking any new ground. I still don't know where the weird assumption came about anime and waifus came from. Stop giving advice, you're kind of stupid

Also, instead of responding with some smart ass overly wordy post maybe you should shut your trap and try thinking for once

The point is not to break any new ground. The point is to return you to the ground, the foundation. Humans have spoken to one another without written language for thousands of years. With the advent of the written record and thus books and, in this case, imageboards, texts, came the existence of social anxiety. This is a very simple concept to understand. Your brain is reductive, not productive. It reduces information from the outside world and filters it into a stream that's just adequate enough for your survival. Anxiety comes from this result as your brain races to connect written language with spoken language. I say "flower" and you imagine the word flower first, as it looks on paper or through a screen, then the idea of it. You do this so instantaneously with individual words, but with sentences and full-length conversations it adds up and harms your brain's reductive capability.

So the point is for you to just be an annoying faggot stating the obvious yet again, got it. I hope you get hit by a bus.

Real life conversations are not like movie conversations. They're mostly unimportant garbage and passive aggressive insults.

People like you need a fucking ego check

Whatever emotions you have right now, you should at least take the time to understand the oral traditions and how they are related to social anxiety. The history of the phenomena of social anxiety. Civilizations that did not have written languages have never experienced it.

>Civilizations that did not have written languages have never experienced it
Wrong.

>professor makes everyone introduce myself
>prepare what to say in my mind
>"i-i want to work over seas i want to work over seas so i joined this lecture"
>i actually said it twice
>couldn't say half the stuff i thought of
>girls in the front laughing
>virgin walk back to my sit at the back of the class

Why can't i say the things i thought of clearly in my head

Fucking kekk famalam.

I can talk about my problems fluidly. But I don't want to talk about my problems at all. So, I'm in the same situation as you are.

This shit reminded me of one of my classes.

>first day of class
>professor makes everyone introduce theirselves as they where their coleagues
>I choose a female who is sitted next to me
>we talk a little to know each other in order to present ourselves as eachother
>my time has come
>I leave class abamdoning the course
>next day I get my money back

That's what being nervous does. It fucking sucks balls, makes you say really stupid shit. That's a cruel irony isn't it? The physical response to the fear of social pressure makes you look like an even bigger fucking spaz than you really are. Why haven't we evolved a response to this fear that makes us more articulate instead of less? Like if we're in physical danger our bodies surge with adrenalin that maks us more physically capable than usual, why the fuck don't we have a sort of social adrenalin that helps us in socially dangerous situations?

Most conversations are useless bullshit

Really? Are you going to study something else?

>i want to work over seas

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Overthinking about what you're going to say is the easiest way to fail. It's better to plan out some bullet points in your head about what you want to talk about then wing it from there