Should low-tier men be killed? I'm honestly thinking that around 75% of men should honestly die. ESPECIALLY as automation grows, beta bucks will become less necessary and beta males will become literal excess. There is no reason to keep them alive. Deleting the bottom 75% or even bottom 50% or 25% of human genetic material would go a long way. These men are literally unnecessary. I don't want to die but I feel like if it was me and everyone else pathetic as me I could live with it. Or not, since I'd be dead. I realize that I shouldn't have existed and the choices I have in life are: (1) live for another 60 years in a shitbox playing vidya or (2) put in vast amounts of effort to find a substandard woman and raise a substandard son or daughter, who will likely turn out to be a fag or a whore on top of it. Even if I married above my league I'd just be muddying a superior bloodline: effectively shitting in the gene pool.
Honestly most men are excess and should be cut off. It is for the best.
in life user, it is not about superiority of the genes, or the betas and alphas. its about what you want to achieve. just because you believe youre a beta, doesnt mean there isnt a woman for you in this world. there is hope, granted not in america, but there is hope in east asian/european countries and australia. i believe you have what it takes to find that someone and bring children you want to protect into this world.
Jeremiah Sanchez
Change this to include women and you have a deal, you can argue more men are disposable since one man can impregnate multiple women, but we could kill lots of women and benefit as well
Nicholas Gonzalez
Betas keep society running, you need worker bees to keep things moving. Also, get help.
Dylan Edwards
yes but only if we delete the unwanted females too. after all theyre the ones that produce clones.
Jaxson Morris
>You have mental health problems. Explain exactly how. I'd never kill anyone (except myself) I'm just saying the world would be a better place if I, and every other man like me, were dead. Because for every shit tier man who offs himself there's eventually one who pops out a bunch of kids with his equally-disgusting wife and continues the cycle of misery. >go seek help Why, so I can be prescribed jew happy pills and end up in debt? Btw you know something like half of mass murderers were on SSRIs? Yeah I'm sure they help a lot. They help the gun control lobby a lot.
Cameron Foster
No. Chad should have access to many women and reproduce with all of them. This will help repopulate the earth quickly and overpower any remaining betas. Sounds like a cuck fantasy but it isn't, it's genuinely what should happen. Unless you think it's moral for a substandard man to reproduce.
Ryan Jones
>falling for the utilitarianism meme
Nolan White
Like I said in my post they are becoming less necessary. When the automation revolution hits then most betas (not the smart and driven ones) will be useless and should be killed off. >get help The only help out there is generic advice and kike drugs.
Justin Morales
Explain how it is moral for a woman or man who has Down Syndrome to reproduce. Or Huntington's.
David Williams
Would help you carry out the genocide of inferior "males" desu. But at the same time I have to agree with what this user said - we need them to keep things running. It's a complex relationship of exploitation by tricking those who are exploited into thinking they can achieve something in exchange for their labor. As for the "I don't want to shit up a superior bloodline" - I wish everyone thought so thereby making future humans superior instead of creating more autistic weaklings(both mentally and physically).
>Even if I married above my league I'd just be muddying a superior bloodline: effectively shitting in the gene pool. my friends sisters look 7/10, the guys look way below that genes express themselves different between male and female
Parker Jenkins
Come and get me you fucking faggot. I'll put you in the ground.
Anthony Cruz
As it automation gets better up there's no need for dumb aggressive "chads" anymore at all. Men will be feminized and made small. This is our plan, the future is female.
Angel Flores
Then you will still have some genetic trash
Brandon Howard
user, you idiot, you do realize that it doesn't work that way? Chad + stacy =/= chad or stacy offspring, nor do two normal or even ugly people produce ugly offspring.
Nathan Stewart
All men die. Nature is a cruel mistress. Stop flexin'
Christian Hernandez
>It's a complex relationship of exploitation by tricking those who are exploited into thinking they can achieve something in exchange for their labor Fuck that shit. If the human race can't survive without beta males, it doesn't deserve to exist.
Kayden Peterson
The whole human race should die off but if we aren't going to do that and we are going to change how baby making works anyways, make it 10 women for every man and make the maximum female height 5'6" and minimum male height 6'4"
Daniel Kelly
>satan trips confirm evil Nope, reverse the sizes of the sexes and you see what is actually gonna happen.
Grayson Allen
>Men will be feminized and made small. This is already happening.
Some. But less. And if you continue to kill the low value men and keep all the women to keep numbers up, eventually the human race will asymptotically reach for "perfection."
You don't need men for more than 5 minutes of the reproductive process. Real workers are a huge minority in the world now. Most work is service industry or even low tier manufacturing that can be done by women. I'd say men function as a father but most beta males are shit fathers. I saw a short manlet with three daughters the other day, each ones hair dyed a different color. I couldn't help but laugh at what a pathetic cuck he must be to produce three whores for offspring.
Brody Young
>Stop flexin' What?
>The whole human race should die off Agreed, VHEM is the final redpill. Conai
Kayden Allen
nope body dimorphism looks better when girls are cute and men are cool. So we also need to make it impossible for men to accumulate enough fat to become fat. It doesn't matter if the men become naturally submissive as long as men are cool and women are cute.
nope dimorphism looks better when females are big and fecund and males are small and efficient, that's why females are bigger than males for 90% of animals.
Robert Miller
I disagree, we just need a more brutal regime of exploitation ... the cucks need to be dragged out of the office and forced to work outside for their chad overlords without any reward.
Jacob James
Cucks like you are so gross.
Ian Bell
I mean you are wrong though. women need to be small twigs and men need to be big stoic quiet tanks. other animals play no role in proper aesthetics. mommydom shit is nice on occasion but only because of the niche novelty when compared to the superior mainstream dynamic. these aesthetics still have nothing to do with personality though. Women should probably be gentle femdom. women care for their lovers and children, but men need to be able to protect women and manhandle them on their orders.
Robert Sanders
To me it sounds like you want to kill yourself and drag everyone down with you at the same time. If you really believe that shit you're posting then go see a threapist or something.
Jackson Howard
>leaving ugly females alive but getting rid of betas
ugly females will have ugly children, even with a chad father
James Powell
The proper aesthetic is what Im saying men dont fight in nature with fists, a 6'8" guy is no better at fighting a wild boar or buck or bear than a 5' tall guy, but put a spear in either of their hands and they become equal. Men used spears in the past and in our world guns, neither of which size matters so males can be small and more than capable of protecting. plus why do women need protection from men when women are bigger than men anyway? You have no sense of aesthetic or progress desu senpai
Xavier Gomez
Those are actual diseases with harmful effects that only affect a small portion of the population. Totally different from eliminating large amounts of people simply for having a personality type which you consider inferior.
Owen Cruz
I could kill myself (and probably would if I didn't have a family that would be devastated by my death) but if I died there's still millions of useless men slaving away at cuck tier jobs no one will miss, only alive because they are too scared to kill themselves. That's what happens when substandard humans reproduce.
Josiah Nelson
not really true, a big strong 6'8 guy will fuck up a boar with a spear alot easier than 5' turbo manlet
Juan Green
you're fucking retarded. very few women are capable of being cool, and no men are capable of being cute no matter what lgbt says. however most women can make themselves cute and they deserve to be cute. women should be cute for their men. stop being a shotafag cause no men will ever look like shotas for their whole life. mommydom doesn't work. and amazons and giantess are just the worst .
Josiah Reyes
>go see a threapist or something Actually have been to a therapist, or at least I talked to someone who is a mental health practitioner. Dunno if it counts as therapy but trust me it does nothing. Just a scam, as are the jew happy pills.
Isaiah Thomas
Inferior facial structures are not personality. There's a kike nose and shitty cheek structure that runs in my family (I've seen pics back to the 1800s and it's there) that shouldn't be passed on. There's 7 billion humans in the world, giving a shit about all of them is like bill gates pinching pennies, it's fucking pointless and counterproductive. Use what you have.
Carter Cruz
nah desu there really wouldnt be a difference. This is also why men went from over 6'1" to only 5'9" over the middle paleolithic era - because it doesnt really matter. well you just have shit taste dude, idk what the hell youre talking about with cute and cool or whatever. Those things are based on culture and ahve nothing to do with the sexes, we can easily frame the big amazon women as better mothers and the efficient small males as superior and quick and such. Im talking about the objectively superior biological aesthetic sexual dimorphism that we see in almost all animals and that we will reflect in humans.
Connor King
Somebody on Jow Forums talking about low tier men :/
Wyatt Fisher
On the day of the roast, the basedboys will bite the bullet too
Jaxson Young
Seriously? "basedboys" from s0yb0ys? Since when was this a thing?
Aiden Ortiz
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Bentley Reed
low tier men take care of themselves by not breeding
the real problem is females, ugly females can get pregnant as easily as pretty females so there is no actual genetic advantages to being a pretty female. as a result our X chromosome has literally been degrading.
fact is, we need to act NOW and give mandatory hysterectomies to sub 5 women, maybe even sub 7 women, in an attempt to cure our damaged female genes before it gets worse.
Levi Reyes
Lots of people find me to be funny
Charles Williams
Fag / woman detected. No shit a low value men would know about low value men. Did I say I was excluded from that group? Dumbass.
Adrian Torres
>low tier men take care of themselves by not breeding Wrong, they date other subhumans. I see crab tier couples all the time. Ugly men fuck (very) ugly women out if despersrion, and continue the cycle. Elsewhere their existence is meaningless.
Caleb Hill
Me too. I've got multiple female friends online who I voice chat with and they lose it laughing at my autistic joking. None of them want to fuck me, but they seek me out for vidya and chatting all the time. Nice though because I don't want to fuck any of them, they feel like my cousins.
Daniel Richardson
what you're seeing is exactly what i described, women always have scraps to pick from so they have no selection pressure. it's unfortunate that our nature has created such genetically inferior females by and large, but we can fix it. don't worry you'll probably still get attention from some guys, that's all you care about right?
your argument is also retarded considering genetics prove women are much more sexually successful than men, like 3 times as successful actually, 0 selection pressure like i said. sorry you're damaged i really am, it's not your fault.
Chase Watson
There is no suffering to be spared by killing low tier women as they don't suffer. Women would need to outnumber men to help replace the 25% of population that would be gone were my plan enacted. I mean if you thinks that's unnecessary then fine kill the bottom 50% of women too.
Jeremiah Bailey
who said killing, i'm not some barbaric animal. no we'll just take your uterus's. it's for your own good you understand, the woman of tomorrow won't be such an amoral braindead thing like you. men will no longer be stunted by our lowered quality x chromosome as well. humanity will finally be equal, you just need to make this sacrifice for the greater good. we appreciate you.
William Scott
it does tho bigger men make better fighters in melee combat, this is a fact the only drawback there is, is that they need more food you could argue it's not as important cause guns, and I'd maybe be inclined to agree, but even there, you don't need them to be turbomanlets, you just don't need them to be turbolanklets either
I think you're just talking alot of shit because of your weird fetish for femdom and disguising it by pretending to be a big brained nibba who just wants humans to reflect animals more in spite of us obviously being quite separate from animals
been a thing for a while
u r lowest tier man
wtf why do u want to kill men, you seem like another dummy with a fetish that's trying to disguise it behind big brainism
PLS ROBOTS STOP TRYING TO JUSTIFY YOUR FETISHES BY PRETENDING TO BE BIG BRAINED NIBBAS
Isaiah Perez
>bigger men make better fighters in melee combat, this is a fact not with weapons, only hand 2 hand. I'm serious, train in HEMA or something and you'll see that there isn't an advantage when your fighting with spears or swords. Obviously you dont NEED them to be super small or super big or even average, none of that shit matters but we're talking about the aesthetics and such. >I think you're just talking alot of shit because of your weird fetish for femdom and disguising it by pretending to be a big brained nibba who just wants humans to reflect animals more in spite of us obviously being quite separate from animals I'm not disguising it, I am big brained (as are all men into femdom) and humans are animals, we arent separate we are animals. Reverse sexual dimorphism is better.
Aiden Walker
>I am big brained Obvs not because you want femdom to be a thing in real life I bet you're a manlet too now
It's not a good aesthetic, it only looks good in anime senpai Men should look like big fuck off warriors, dunno what women should look like tho We are seperate from animals, I don't see any fuckin dolphins saying they gotta change their gender sizes around on the internet or whatever
you cannot claim to be big brained and also want to be more like an animal
Camden Anderson
>Reverse sexual dimorphism is better. even you admit that women being bigger is not normal.
Samuel Perry
I never said anything about femdom though, just reversing the dimorphism. Why are you afraid of the idea? I meant reverse the sexual dimorphism, no shit men are bigger than women now. Who would claim otherwise? I'm saying we should flip it and make it normal.
Isaiah Murphy
nope too late you Freudian slipped you know that it's wrong for women to be bigger than men you lose.
Benjamin Morris
...what? Saying we need to reverse the dimorphism is exactly what I'm saying, I do not understand what you're talking about. Reversed sexual dimorphism is better. Why is it wrong for women to be bigger? Reversal doesn't mean wrong, user.
Carson Bell
You were trying to claim it was normal but by calling it the reversed way you implied it was not. you did not say "the reverse of the current sexual dimorphism" you said "reverse sexual dimorphism". Since you admitted it is not normal you can't argue that it is a good thing because it is normal.
Blake Wood
I don't have a fetish and I have nothing to do with what that other faggot is posting about small weak men or whatever.
Kevin Morgan
I was not trying to say it was normal for humans, I was saying that we should reverse our dimorphism. It is normal in animals as a whole though, that much is true. The majority of animal species have larger females than males. Right now, "reverse sexual dimorphism" for us would be smaller men bigger women. if we were that way than the reverse would be what we have now, bigger men and smaller women. Something being normal or not doesn't matter though so I dont get that point. you're the faggot talking about killing off some percentage of people and thinking it makes you look cool.
Ryder Rodriguez
jealous black or propaganda post
Evan Harris
>I was not trying to say it was normal for humans, I was saying that we should reverse our dimorphism. however you dud not say that you said that women being bigger was the reverse of normal. you lose.
Logan Walker
Sterilised not killed.
Jason Scott
I actually totally agree with you. If it came down to it, and a bunch of us were doing it, I'd kill myself. I fucking hate myself
Dude are you legit retarded? No shit women be bigger is not normal, THATS THE POINT, I'm saying use genetic engineering to make women big and men small and make that the new normal. How are you not following this?
Jayden Brown
>I'm saying use genetic engineering to make women big and men small and make that the new normal. You were using a naturalistic argument. There is no good reason to do what you say retard. all your arguments can be turned around because they aren't arguments, they are assertions. You were saying "oh but it's only natural" but you admitted it's not through a Freudian slip. and now you are backtracking and saying "thats not what I said" when it's hat you said
Nathan Evans
I don't like the idea cause I know it is instinctively wrong. I'm not afraid of it as I know it won't happen. Chad ain't gon slip so easy just cause some user wants it. You said all men into femdom are big brained and claimed to be big brained in the same sentence, sorry fampai, you seem pretty obvious.
you do tho you want there to be a ridiculous amount of wahmen in comparison to men to make a hedonism world where it's just chad orgying with stacies while automation takes care of the rest cause the only thing that matters it not suffering
y da fug would ya do dat tho someone will use the same genetic engineering to make ultra chads who will kill your smol men and take the amazon gfs y'all created to create better warrior spawn
Aiden Peterson
No, I said that it's more common in nature to see it, and that it is a superior dimorphism because it is so much more common and successful for animals to have larger females. In life as a whole, it is "normal" for females to be larger than males. >There is no good reason to do what you say retard. There is no good reason not to either.
I dont get what you're talking about with this "fruedian slip" shit. I said reverse dimorphism in our species is better like it is in life in general, nothing about that is a "slip" I truly do not know what the fuck you're talking about. You do not have a "gotcha" right now.
Andrew Anderson
The larger men are inferior in firearm combat, the small dudes will blow them up and then go back to fug and cuddle with the amazons and produce superior societies.
Liam Bennett
this is not really true, their are tradeoffs for sizes blanket statement of larger men are inferior in firearm combat is untrue
I imagine ubermenschen supersoldiers will be better fighters regardless of size compared to small basedboys who's lifestyle is based around trying to please a pair of heels
Nathaniel Gomez
They already get chemically castrated if they're not careful homie. One injection to the balls and you ain't ever having kids.
Funny how there are super Chads that have impregnated hundreds and others that never get to reproduce despite their best efforts. I guess it's best for the betterment of humanity but it don't seem quite right. So.. women everywhere rejoice, even if some omega overpowers and rapes you to try to spread his genes there's a good chance the government eugenics program got to him first and had him sterilized so you won't get pregnant anyway.
Justin Harris
The small dudes can have be warriors as well. Look at the Romans who dominated the much taller Gauls. you're right though, the smaller dudes aren't better but they sure as shit aren't worse and to claim that they'd easily be conquered just isn't true. More likely no one tries to conquer them because there is no point to risk it.
Charles Mitchell
Guy has no concept of actual genetics. Honestly, we're quickly going to be at the point where we can manipulate genes before birth making this entire idea ridiculous. It sounds like a cuck fantasy because it is one.
Evan Reed
You're right, but you don't even realize for what reasons. However it should not be limited to men, your gynocentric obsession is laughable quite honestly. Shit genes should be expunged from mankind, period and practicing passive eugenics (compensating low IQ or genetically inferior people that chemically sterilize themselves with a one time monetary compensation after they undergo the procedure at a qualified and state approved specialist) could be one of the best solutions in developed countries. Stupid people, that also more often than not have shit genes, don't consider the future and don't think ahead and those that are genetically deficient can instead lead fulfilling lives without ruining it for the future generations using that money, spawning more broken failures that will only lead lives of suffering and misery. The funniest thing is that double digit IQ monkeys would think it'd be a financial loss for the government that would be practicing such a thing, but if you consider the numbers over time, it'd cut the social expenditures significantly. Now here's the killer line of this joke. The governments today do not care about the state of the populations they preside over, only about their capability to pay taxes.
Cooper Jenkins
the romans were also incredibly manly and did not become cuckslaves for amazons that mindset will not help you win fites
plus, romans only seemed to work proper while in formation, any time it got broken up, they got absolutely fucked by their physically superior gallic and germanic opponents it seems like
Christian Ward
>the romans were also incredibly manly and did not become cuckslaves for amazons well we live in a different time now. Maybe even using mostly drones to fight with the small males used as light infantry for special missions. >plus, romans only seemed to work proper while in formation, any time it got broken up, they got absolutely fucked by their physically superior gallic and germanic opponents it seems like Not that cut and dry. I wish to mimic the birds of prey. The birds of prey are apex predators who's only threat are other birds of prey. The females are much larger than the males, so much so that the males are called "tiercels". The giant female stays at the nest and protects the eggs while the small males fly at amazing speeds and kill hosts of different animals to bring them back to the female. The male, being small, doesn't himself need to eat much so he can spend most of his time working to feed her. They are monogamous and mate for life. Tell me how a human society like this isn't perfect.
Bentley Davis
Are you guys retarded? many chad and stacy traits are hereditary. will they be passed down with 100% certainty? of course not. Do people pass down their traits to their kids, yes. Obviously.
Fine with me so long as you cull the least genetically fit women as well.
Alexander Jones
>thinking it makes you look cool. I don't think it makes me cool. I'm a piece of shit and there's a lot of other pieces of shit out there who should be killed to end the cycle of misery created by uggs fucking other uggs.
Lincoln Davis
whatever dude, if that's what you prefer just sounds like a big brained justification for femdom to me, which again, whatever, I like femdom too, that doesn't mean a society modeled on that is gonna work proper we aren't birds, we are the sizes we are because that's how humies are s'posed to be
how would it be not perfect to just have a big male, smol female monogamous thing going tho
Easton Myers
I'm a white gentle man in his 20s. Sorry, none of your usual strawmen apply.
Christian Price
>your gynocentric obsession is laughable quite honestly Im talking about what is most expeident to repopulating the earth. Personally I'd be happy with all humans being killed. VHEM all the way.
Dominic Hall
>I'm a white gentle man in his 20s. Sorry, none of your usual strawmen apply.
I simply dont agree that society based on what I'm saying wouldn't work. I think it would be better in almost every way. >how would it be not perfect to just have a big male, smol female monogamous thing going tho No rape, violence against women, etc when the women are bigger than the men. And no, I dont think they would be mean to the small men, I think the society would just overall be less violent and more empathetic as a whole. But I understand it's radical and most people will not like the idea at first.
Michael Powell
We don't need to be expedient in such matters, being expedient is what brought us to this mess in the first place. If we're going to be repeating the same mistakes endlessly over and over, then total extinction would be preferable ,as all evolutionary dead ends are fated towards such an end. A single man having a lot of women attached to him and making them pregnant can, down the line, very easily result in inbreeding and that would put us back at square one.
Isaiah Green
The "sisterhood" is a myth. Women are far less empathetic than men are, their brains are geared towards manipulation, not comprehension.
but they would be mean to each other while viewing men as cute little cuddly frens, and the idea of hurting a man would be like attacking a momma bears' cubs. Also, women aren't violent to each other, sure we can't eliminate all violence or problems but I truly think a large part of the problems between the sexes comes from the difference in size and the roles in reproduction, and we can change one of those things. Species with larger males are almost always worse in their behavior to each other than species with no dimorphism or where the females are larger. There are a few exceptions but for the most part, females are supposed to be larger and I do not think humans are an exception, I think we are flawed and should be fixed.
Jackson Powell
>no rape are you fuckin kiddin me? do you not see how every other month there's some female teacher raping a boy? you think that won't happen more often if women are physically superior to men and men all look like a bunch of boys?
>no violence against women this is doubtful and even if not, sure as hell there's prolly gonna be alot more violence against men do you see how catty women are with each other? how catty they are with men? you not seen negresses fight? you think more women won't fight once they can actually outfight their male peers?
and an overall less violent and more empathetic society is not nessecarily good cause you're gonna get rolled over by some authoritarian military as fuck civilization
Christopher Kelly
>Also, women aren't violent to each other Not physically, but if you think physical violence is the only thing that matters, then you're woefully ignorant and are not qualified to argue about anything pertaining to the nature of humanity and its future or past developments. Your proposed solution accomplishes nothing other than turning women into new men, but this time they will be even worse at handling society and keeping it together as they lack the hormones required to maintain competitive drive and continuously endure high stress environments.
James Russell
A lot normies gonna be trig from this sort of philosophy, but really feminism needs to step up and start pushing for women-controlled selective breeding of stud males. Nothing else makes sense, and just perpetuates disparity and discontent.
Grayson Kelly
Or maybe eradicate women completely as they are inferior to men in every way and can exist only because men allow them to, in addition to being enablers of horrific consumerist practices such as jewelry and cosmetics industries. We ought to breed supermen instead, using artificial wombs for reproduction.
Nolan Williams
I think it will not be anywhere near as common as how often men rape and abuse women, and when it happens it will be punished more often. I just don't think women will want to hurt the small males, it doesn't seem like women ever have anywhere near the level of violence. Women dont abuse animals, or enjoy violence. Ironically fascists use hawks and eagles as symbols, while hawks and eagles and other birds of prey are matriarchal monogamous larger-female species. Its not like men wont be working and in the governments and other organizations though. I'm looking to become birds of prey. The male brings the dominant giant female the food and serves her, and in return all males are paired up and have lifelong monogamous giant mommy partners. It's lit.
Bentley Young
>breed supermen instead
No, user. It's time to let this nightmare end.
Elijah Lopez
Nope. Our plan is expanding the welfare state so women can fuck Chad all day on Tinder and the Betabux workers pay for us and our babies on welfare. We can fuck Chad raw, get preggo and get the government to get us free everything.
Jaxson Williams
>women dont abuse animals or enjoy violence really? do you believe what you're saying? women are harsh as fuck man youre just saying i think
id get it you just said >this is my ideal society but youre acting like its irrefutable and superior to every other society
Aaron Torres
The men are birds of prey already, but they are also the nest keepers. The men can do everything and do it better than women do. The only use women have is reproduction.
I don't see how existence of an enlightened, unburdened humanity, free of competition over beings that are inherently inferior, could be a nightmare.