All of you robots would have girlfriends if you would just start going to the gym and lifting desu

>you'd get gf if you just lift bro
not this meme again

>90% lean mass
>go to gym every other day
>19
>kissless virgin
im well groomed too i guess im just ugly or autistic or something

I personally believed this meme when I was younger. I unlocked the potential of my genetics, and went from 130lb to 190lb in less than a year. All of my class mates and co-workers would tell me about how I should be hitting on chicks because I could now get any girl I wanted. I had the respect of my peers, but I was still as socially retarded as before I had started lifting. Fast forward two years after my transformation and I was still a virgin.

but you eventually got laid

It's more that people don't have to motivation to keep doing it.
I've tried a couple of times but going to the gym always feels like a chore to me. In the end I just don't have the motivation to keep going.

>the hardest part about working out stopped me from working out
What did you mean by this?

I believe it's pretty self-explanatory

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>All of you robots would have girlfriends if you would just start going to the gym and lifting desu.
But I already do. Where's my gf, op?

How come I see fatasses, and skinny, nerdy, manlet men with shitty skin walking around with smoking hot girlfriends then?

>But I already do. Where's my gf
Just be yourself

I don't want a gf who is only into me for being fit. if girls start approaching me or showing interest just because I become buff I will reject them with disgust for being thots.

>Just be yourself
Meme threads should die

I lift weights and run long distance, still sad and still can't get a gf so I'm living proof you're wrong

I have deep seated issues, and lifting doesn't solve all of them

too bad there's no gym for your face

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Remember this when you stop working out inevitably.

Itll make you rage for being so heartless

I have a gorgeous wife and I have had extremely attractive girlfriends and I've never gone to the gym once.

Just learn how to talk to people, have good values and present yourself well. Don't need any of that gym shite. Although yes, it does help, but it's totally unnecessary.

Im stressing a lot lately and dont get much sleep. My diet is OK I eat a lot of greens and for the most part I do stay away from junk/fast food, my protein intake isn't what id like it to be but some ill be taking protein shakes soon but only when I can't EAT my protein. I've cut back on sweets which were a weakness but the lack of sleep and the added stress make it really hard to see good results. I'll still try though, ive been at it for about 3 months now and little by little still see result but im pretty flabby.

Working out makes me feel good though, I won't lie but it's about the only thing that makes me feel good lately.

>Just be attractive

Fixed that for you

I am lifting and exercising though. I'm having trouble staying motivated, I did lose 10 pounds though.

I got about 200lbs of weights and a stationary bike in my basement so I don't need to actually go anywhere.

Fixed what? I'm not attractive. I just know how to talk people, I have good values and I'm well presented. That's why I have a gorgeous wife and success with women.

No, that's not why

Feel free to explain. I'm pretty sure I know how I look and I'm pretty sure you don't.

>I have good values and I'm well presented.

He's either Asian, Christian, or upper-middle-class / lower-upper-class.

You may be right, he may be attractive also - but he's using code words for "preppie girls like me".

Unattractive men don't have extremely attractive girlfriends unless they have immense social status or wealth. Do you? If not, then you're more attractive than you think and no you don't know how you look relative to what's considered ugly.

I have been working out for more than a year now. I have a condition that makes eating food very difficult for me. I work out every other day following a program. While I look a bit better, I have literally gained 0 weight. My problem is not with being a fatass. That would be nice because then I could work to lose it. My problem is that every time I gain weight I lose it in a day or two. Im 6 4 and eating the 4000 plus calories I would need to gain weight would put me in a bed for two days with hardly bearable symptoms. I get up and Im scared to eat breakfast because it will determine the rest of my day. I still work out because I do it for other reasons than looking better but you have a very false and black and white way of thinking about this.

Neither Asian nor Christian. As far as money goes, it's an average job (accounting) but I'm impeccable with money management so we're never at risk.

I don't accept your premise that they don't.

I can certainly show my wife and prove she's attractive, but you'll have to take my word that I'm not. It would only do you a favour to take me at my word that it's possible to get an attractive wife without anything you've stipulated.

>I don't accept your premise that they don't.

I don't give a shit that you don't accept it because I know i'm right.

I'm ugly as fuck but lifting is what I can do to make my physical appearance better. Eating healthier too so I feel better about myself. Before focusing on getting laid, focus on yourself and figure out what you want to do in life.

you ever heard of a gymcel? lifting weights doesnt work if you have an ugly face

This. Lifting doesn't make you more handsome nor does it make you taller, nor does it change your bone structure

Face, Height, Frame. That's always what it comes down to

Saying you are right when your ideas cannot hold up to scrutiny doesn't sound too promising. An attractive woman wouldn't know I exist until I create an opportunity for a little laugh, a little tease, a lot of grace. The fact they open up after I do something with my presence other than just hover tells me I'm not physically attractive. Plenty of attractive people can just hang around like earlobes and still get female attention.

But I don't fail after I act, and so the advice I gave reflects the appropriate way to solidify how you act around a woman to create success.

Dont you recognize the false belief that having a good personality is any more under your control than having good looks? To be charismatic depends on many factors that are not dependent on your will; if such a thing even exists freely. You have to be intelligent enough to speak well and to understand all angles of a conversation, you have to have had interesting experiences that are relatable to the people youre talking with, you have to have a decent voice, you have to have a relaxed demeanor or else you put people off, and your personality has to have been shaped by positive experiences or else you have to be a good actor. If you take some alien and put him in a conversation with a group of humans he will not be able to converse. This is obviously an extreme example but it demonstrates that your background is important. You are not in control of your background. If you have a bubbly personality you should consider yourself lucky. I have brain damage and I will never be able to talk to people comfortably. My memory is so bad I cant talk very long at all or else I forget what Im saying. I have terrible word recall so I cant use any decent adjectives. Everything is just "crazy". You saying you have a wife because of your personality is no more virtuous than saying its because of your big dick or perfect hair.

Congratulations, you aren't ugly!

>Lifting does not cure first-world depression or autism
It absolutely does. Healthy testosterone levels make a profound difference in you as a person.

>Dont you recognize the false belief that having a good personality is any more under your control than having good looks?
I grew up listening to Sam Harris lectures, so let me spearhead this in a way that you will perhaps agree:

1. I think a good personality can replace good looks in worthwhile pursuit of attractive women with good values.

2. I don't believe in free will and I don't think a good personality can be authored or controlled (just because you got into the topic). However, if the capacity to weld conversational adeptness or sharpen presentation exists within a person, it should be encouraged (and I did encourage it). I would never be foolish enough to say it exists in everyone, though. Do I think a lot of robots overestimate their hurdles when it comes to this? Yeah, but whatever, I can't prove it and it's besides the point. I don't have an "everybody can get attractive women" outset. I just said people who have the capacity to exhibit or do exhibit xyz - where xyz are traits other than looks - can get attractive women.

I hope that's clear.

I am, but my wife isn't.

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chew gum for jawline gains

This is a lie nigga. I go to the gym, lift, and exercise regularly, and I am 24 KHV. I'm kind of chubby, but not fat, and I'm pretty big (big enough to where normalfags constantly ask if I play football). The only mires I get are from guys basically, whether my age or later.
HI fatty. I won't say exercise cures depression or autism, but it still has health benefits that you'll ignore because you're a lazy fat piece of shit.

>if you would just start going to the gym and lifting desu.
i have been doing that

now what?

>just go outside
where? be very specific and explain what to do when there

I will agree with you user. The biggest thing I've found when talking to people about working out is motivation, and that mostly comes from within, and the source differs from person to person. I hope you find motivation user. You don't have to go to a commercial gym if it's a hassle or you don't like being around people. If you have a playground around your area, go there and try a playground workout with body weight exercises, or if that's a hassle, try for home workout gear. Or if you don't want to do resistance training, at least walk or jog. Once again, if you hate people being out, wait and do a walk at night.

>But lifting is fun
i never understood this. i have been lifting on and off for years. right now i'm on a 3 month streak

it was never "fun" not once. can someone explain what i'm doing wrong? i wish i could make it fun

I mean that helps, but personality gets you a shot at women. If you are attractive, but a sperg with shit social skills and who stays in a lot, your chances of getting a gf are worse than the average or ugly looking guy who actually talks to woman. It sucks, but it's partly the truth. The girl may find the attractive sperg better looking, but he never talked to her, and her spoiled ass isn't going to approach him. It's shit game for those that don't know or are ot very good at basic social skills.

I'm 6ft 143lb with broad shoulders but I'm a chestlet where do I start op?

>start lifting a year ago
>Lose 60 pounds
>people complementing me on not being a fat sack of shit anymore
>still no friends
>Still no gf

starting strength + GOMAD

check Jow Forums sticky

>GOMAD
Don't do this. Or do it if it helps you get calories, just don't find it a rule. Find out your estimated total daily energy expenditure (TDEE) based on your current age, height, weight, and how much you will expect to workout per week, eat like 500 cal or so above that and work out while monitoring your weight and progress.

Been lifting all year. Still skinny and still a manlet. FML

Don't listen to do Greyskull LP and maintenance calories or small surplus instead

i almost ignored this thread but this is actually dangerous advice. you'll make young robots really think that it's true, and they'll go to the gym for girls / sex / "true love" instead of just going for themselves. this advice is pure shit and leads to worsening depression when they realize how much of a lie it is.

women don't give a goddamn SHIT if you go to the gym as long as you're not a total fatass, and you'll still be treated like garbage if you are short, ugly, spergy, have "weird" interests, have a bad jawline, talk to them too much, talk to them too little, wear the wrong clothes, drive the wrong car, have the wrong job, are balding, aren't smart enough, are too smart, smoke, drink, don't drink, are liberal, are conservative, etc etc etc etc

fuck women they are animals

if you convinced some poepl to waste years of life masochistically trying to make gains i'm sure you'd really care

it's a blue pill

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fake and gay, how does his profile pic say "active just now" if it's really him, this is faggotry and ur a nigger

That is probably true but I'm also white so what's easier than going to the gym is just learning Chinese and securing a lifetime of easy pussy one way or another