We always hear about gender stuff here in a sexual context,
so what do you guys think of wholesome trans people? I know that's a bit vague, but people who identify as trans for their own reasons, even if they don't transition or only out online. I personally consider gender a spectrum, so I think people who use the other gender's pronouns are valid,
I.E a biological girl asking people to use male pronouns for him
Too many people on both sides get butt-hurt because they cant fathome to understand the view of the other side.
On that I know a few trans who absolute mates, though u gotta understand even for them its always fucking awkward and jarring telling new people. I think they should where a symbol on an armband or something so people can know without anyone saying anything.
>pic related
I suppose I would have to be fine with them since I fit the description you provided.
>biologically male
>girl on the inside
>won't transition because I know I would never pass perfectly and so feel not transitioning is the path with less pain in suffering of only barely
>have told very few people because it usually just causes people to ghost me
>etc
Normally when I see trans people in public I cringe and look away in repulsion, and because I can't understand them. However, a week ago I saw someone, and it was a man trying to be a woman and they were talking to a bunch of people who looked like typical lgbt reps with technicolored hair and the works. Their smile was absolutely infectious, I dont think i've ever seen someone who looked more secure and comfortable with who they were and honestly I needed to take a step back and tip my hat off to anybody that sure in their skin.
> I.E a biological girl asking people to use male pronouns for him
That's stupid.
I'd think they're stupid, and I wouldn't respect their request.
One of the most wholesome things i have ever experienced:
>be me
>teen, probably around 17
>FtM transgender
>Just came out, lost alot of friends
>Find out about this summer camp for trans people
>sign up and go
>probably 60 kids there
>all different gender identities, the whole staff was trans too
>it was a basic summer camp, doing rope climbing, ziplining, cooking smores, ect.
>the faces of these kids when getting told they look cute / manly / cisgender
>Watching Mulan, everyone's faces lighting up as she cuts her hair with the sword
>9 year old MtFs trying makeup for the first time
> telling transitioning stories around the campfire, hugs given alot
Though i had a rough time with some of the kids in my cabin, i would highly recommend going to one or volunteering as a counselor.
Yeah, hopefully your idea will be implemented user - sounds really good!
I think you fags should fuck off from my board seriously
Disgusting. I hope camps like those get shot up.
Kill. With. Lava. Ordered
Don't care, let them do what they want. Doesn't cost me anything to acknowledge the gender they want to identify with
Oh but cost has nothing to do with it. Like Communism deciding what one needs.
i think we hit the nail on the head with the idea of non-binary. gender is a constraining social construct and trans people hold us back by enforcing it.
guys it costs nothing, absolutely nothing, to know that you are not "above" anyone, all humans are equals. Just because you are farther ahead in life than someone does not make you better. Just because somebody has a mental problem that you do not have does not make you better. I swear its like some of you just came out of redneck texas, how do you morouns even know how to use a computer?
some people are too far gone in their mental illness to be saved.
I never understood trans shit. Seemed to be in complete opposition to what feminists said about gender. I took that shit on faith, though, because I figured even though I have no sense of my own gender identity, maybe others did. These days, though, I'm legitimately starting to think that my instincts are right all along and trannies are just a bunch of larping freaks.
It doesn't make any fucking sense to say gender identity is completely divorced from gender expression. You just get bearded dudes who don't take hormones demanding to be called by female pronouns and shit. But if you don't divorce them, then you get people claiming girls are transguys for wearing pants.
i know humans are equals, i clearly argued that trans people are enforcing inequality.
yes we are all equal. But just because we're all equal doesnt mean we want to be around you. In other words: Go be an equal somewhere else.
I think trans people are valid and cool. Even the unwholesome ones.
Femoid nb larpers are disgusting, even more than ordinary femoids.
I actually made the final decision to be out as trans because I went to an LGBT summer camp the summer after middle school ended. This was back in like 2004 though so nobody knew wtf I even was when I came out
I think everyone should have the right to identify how they want and express that as they want short of doing illegal shit obviously but for most people it won't come to that
If you're nice to me I'll be nice to you which generally means calling someone what they want but it's important that they can't force me or anyone else
In terms of on the internet you don't even have to say oh I'm a girl but use male pronouns or whatever, just say you're a guy
Weirdest case I knew was someone who presented themselves as a trans girl on line but ended up being a biological girl, or maybe she was just a guy the whole time because it's the internet and who can really know? Either way they were a cool person so I didn't care