"Nice guys" like to think the world is being unfair to them. "I'm such a great guy! I treat women well and am always there for them when they need someone. Yet they don't love me back. The world is so messed up..."
Sorry, Mr. "Nice Guy", but no. It's not the world you have a problem with, but that everyone is onto your little game. We know you're only "nice" because you're spineless. We know how you only do these things because you expect to be rewarded with sex. We know you try to guilt women into giving you what you want. We know how you go into a selfish rage when you don't get what you want. We know how you insult and belittle the women you pretended to care about so much. We know how you villainize all women out of bitter hatred, and the men they love out of bitter envy. Never realizing that you are the real villain, the worst sort of villain.
We know that you are not a nice guy. If only you would come to acknowledge that as well and become a better person. Until then, know all your "suffering" is your own goddamn fault and is trivial in comparison to the suffering you cause others being a "nice guy".
yes, correct. 'Nice guys' are scum. However 90% of this board aren't 'nice guys', we are misanthropic bastards. Goodbye.
Caleb Sanchez
What the fuck are you talking about you deranged weirdo, is this a pasta?
Nolan Bell
Where did you get this copypasta?
Nathan Wright
Good. I like being the villain. Being bad is better than being good.
Some of us just genuinely dislike women. I dont care for them because I have nothing in common with them so therefore I leave them alone. I am not nice because I am entitled. Everyone has to pay taxes and die so get off of your moral agenda dick head.
Isaac Gutierrez
You seem to be ok with this scenario after you hit the wall.
Anthony Brooks
And yet you roasts have no problem exploiting them and using them like the parasites you are instead of just telling them you don't like them. What does that say about you? You're in no position to call people villains when your whole gender is a cancerous blight on humanity who has caused most of the suffering in the world.
Austin Ortiz
I enjoy being nice polite and helpful and i dont care how women perceive it as "Weak and manipulative". Being who i am is more important to me than catering to the tastes of others.
Camden Powell
The problem with this logic is that you believe "only nice guys want sex" which is completely untrue.
Every guy wants sex, especially the guy you are currently having sex with-- who is probably just using you for sex but you're too stupid to know it. Just like you were with your last five boyfriends/fuck buddies.
Because of that "nice guy" meme genuinly nice people who care about others and who just dont know how to behave (((properly))) are being labeled as scum, manipulators, bastards and being look down upon society.
That is the point tho. They dont want to have sex with someone who is nice. THey want to have sex with someone confident and assertive.
Isaiah Diaz
So what's the difference between nice guys and assholes?
Joshua Kelly
>We know you're only "nice" because you're spineless. This so much. People say I'm kind and nice but I know that's just because I'm not big enough to beat people up.
Xavier Hughes
This. They don't actually care about nice guys and their supposed "manipulative" behavior. Nice guys are simply beta and/or ugly. Women would accept all sorts of abusive crap as long as the guy is Chad and gets her vagina tingling.
>Wait a minute, why are you guys resentful to me? What do you mean you were originally only a little sad about being alone and only ever had honest intentions but were too socially inept to avoid misunderstandings? What do you mean my attempts at negating everything good about you and projecting something ugly and evil on to you for no reason has made you feel more persecuted and rejected by society? Fuck you fags, you deserve to die alone, with this attitude. I'm trying to help you, you worthless piece of shit.
90% of 'nice guys' are doing it because they don't know how else to get a GF - I was like this for a while. We're taught to be nice to people in general and that that's how you make friends. So if we want to be more than friends, it logically follows that you would be nicer to them than you would to the rest of the people you know (or rather, perform more acts of kindness), because you really care about that person.
Is this wrong?
Yes, it's wrong in the sense that it doesn't work in the real world. But the logic is pretty sound, and so plenty of guys are going to do it. Because plenty of guys aren't able to innately attract women, plenty of guys aren't blessed with the particular looks and attitude that attract girls early on that give them the needed experience with women. So the 'nice guys' are approaching the only way they know - and then getting called entitled misogynistic shitheads for expressing frustration that the only method they are familiar with is wholly ineffective.
I myself have realized that being a 'nice guy' is the wrong way to go about getting a GF. I still have no clue what the 'right' way is, and I probably won't figure it out anytime soon.
They'll only get sex by becoming Chad My fellow non-Chads, don't even bother. It's stacked very much against us from the moment we were born.
Luke Mitchell
>be woman >complain about men being pigs and make false rape allegations all the time >young boys are fed this narrative and become nicer as result because that's what you claim to want >"REEEE nice guys are such two-faced assholes, where are all the confident and assertive men?!" Fuck off, dumb roast. This is a problem of your own doing.
Julian Cox
What do you mean about behaving properly? As in functioning in public or talking to a girl or something?
Anthony Parker
Nice guys are what girls say they want until they realize that a guy who just agrees with everything they say to get laid isn't any better than the jerk, just less fun.
You're absolutely right. The right way is finding a girl that thinks you're attractive. More so than the other 100 guys she's speaking to on tinder. That's the hard truth. Your personality is not as important and as long as it's not too bad you're fine.
Matthew Nguyen
Yeh, women like to be abused for some reason. Better stop being nice and work on my misogyny.
Adrian Taylor
I wouldn't complain about a woman living to appease me and learn and agree with all of my views. Why would I complain about that? That sounds very nice, to receive that devotion. If I feel that she's not being honest about something on her mind, I can just kindly convince her to talk about it.
Strangely enough the girls I am nice to are not interested in me, and quite often ghost me after 1 or 2 years. The girls I've manipulated and outright lied to and laughed at with friends are always around and happy to hang out. It's weird right but I understand why they do that, I just don't feel like I could act like that to a girl I loved, if it's some whore I don't care if I'm a cunt to her but how can I do that to the love of my life?
Bentley Gomez
Well after reading I got hit by a wave of realization that I didn't even know was there as I have done the same thing to a T, so now I don't know what the fuck to do with myself at this time
Oh yeah, I was raised in the South. Real polite, suffered from some social anxiety. But I didn't blame anyone but my self. Spent a few years being self sufficient and getting fit. Learned how to cook and bake. etc
And every few weeks I'll do a big show, make something really nice like homemade bread or cinnamon rolls and give it to friends/people I know.
And strangely enough, the only people who seem to be really appreciative and thank me have been dudes. It's how I made most of my friends.
no girlfriends though. But 90% of the friends I have that are women I have no interest in pursuing a relationship, because I'm not mindlessly being nice because I want to get laid. In fact, I realize we would have 0 chemistry and it wouldn't be a good relationship. You know that thing where 2 people care about each other?
>Where is the card where after 8 stickers, I get to share a mutual attraction to someone who respects me as a human being and vice versa
Daniel Gonzalez
Which state? NC here
Austin Brown
>tfw can't be mean to people I just fucking CAN'T. Am I fucked?
Lincoln Lee
ALL "nice guys" are exploited by the women they're nice to. It's not the other way around. The guys give the women they want to hook up with either their time, effort, money, or some combination of the three, and they get nothing in return.
To the nice guy - who believes that if he's nice to women they'll be interested in him - it's a simple trade of his kindness for her interest in him - either sexual or a longer-term relationship.
To the female on the receiving end of this relationship however, it's a simple trade of her feigned interest for his resources. It doesn't matter if she knows what a "nice guy" is, or if she knows that she's only interested in him for his resources, or if she believes she's genuinely interested in him - it's all the same. She's exploiting him for resources. The moment he stops offering her his resources, she WILL lose interest.
What's truly interesting about this relationship dynamic is what happens when the "nice guy" tries to leave this relationship.
Brayden Hernandez
Eventually a nice guy reaches his breaking point. Either he finds a better woman to orbit, or he realizes that the girl is not interested, or he realizes that being nice to women is not sufficient to attract them - it doesn't matter. He'll stop giving the woman his resources.
The woman will realize suddenly that her interest was in his RESOURCES, not in HIM. Upon this realization, some women embrace it and try to exploit a large number of guys for resources at the same time. Others realize what they've been doing and decide not to in the future, and only pursue guys they're truly interested in. However, many never internalize this fact, and instead experience cognitive dissonance.
Most people have the idea in their heads that they're good people. Many people also believe that pretending to be interested in people for their resources is something only a bad person would do. HOWEVER, in one single moment, the woman realized that one of these statements is false. Which statement do you think she'll say is false?
"Pretending to be interested in people for their resources is bad" is suddenly a false statement in their mind. Women should be fine with this, as it resolves the conflict. However, something interesting happens. Maybe it's because her self-image of being a good person is not totally restored, maybe she likes feeling morally superior. Either way, women choose to go one step further. They say, "NO, it is the NICE GUY that is the EVIL one. I was a POOR and DEFENSELESS woman who this man attempted to EXPLOIT with his misleading KINDNESS."
And you know what's funny? The kind of guy who's a "nice guy" is the type who's most likely to believe the women who yell at other men for being "a nice guy". They're the type who'll immediately drop everything they're doing to defend these women from these horrible "nice guys", in hopes that she'll be interested in him.
You forgot about the scenerio wherr she feels assured enough in his continued attention she finally tells him about her boyfriend and he gets rightfully upset about the dishonesty there.
Michael Baker
>fun-loving lmao at roasties
Nathan Lopez
And here's another. Women will go through so much mental gymnastics instead just admit they're attracted to assholes.
Assholes are hot That's literally it, a woman's perspective on any action you do is dependent entirely on whether or not she would be willing to fuck you
Nice but unattractive people are not hiding terrible secrets. You just want to fuck hot people, but you're afraid your sexual preference for the attractive makes you shallow, and so you project hidden goodness onto hot people and hidden evil onto ugly people.
Owen Baker
Accurate It's sad that all of this behavior just comes from men who don't know how to approach women sexually and are going about it the best way they could think of, and they're getting tarred and feathered for it like they're committing some kind of crime. It's not enough to be nice to a woman, you also need to have the right intentions, because if she doesn't think you're worthy, then your desire for sex is almost like an insult to her
