Fembots, do you believe in premarital sex?

>when we're sure we're never leaving each other.
That's a nice ideal, and I see the appeal, but is it even possible to safely promise that, in this culture? All of the media encourages cheating and discarding people when things aren't comfy, and calls divorce brave. I'd just be too afraid. If you find a girl between 17-23 years old who just hasn't happened to lose it yet, that's no safe guarantee that things will turn out well.

>a perfect relationship with no sexual chemistry
normie youngfag detected
that's called platonic friendship and outside extremely rare circumstances it only happens between fellow men, and sometimes between fellow women
almost every single cross-gender friendship continues because at least one of the two parties at least occasionally thinks it would be nice to pork the other one, whether or not this party actually thinks it would or should ever happen.
pls leave and don't come back until you're at least 25 and a /nofriendz/ virgin
also kys

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Nobody watches TV anymore other than people over 40. Nobody listens to the radio other than the 25 and under mumble rap lovers. I'm not worried about the media.

>Nobody watches TV anymore other than people over 40.
Netflix is even worse than cable TV, explicitly programming women to be brain-dead sluts and men to be either emotionless playboys or shut-in virgins welcoming refugees to fuck their onetis.
Podcasts are the new radio and again they're even gayer than the old radio. The media is the worst enemy of the people in the first world. Also ur ghei lol

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Yeah. If you let such important decisions get influenced by normie media, youre a lost cause anyways. Unless you werent aware of the brainwashing before losing virginity, you have no excuse.

I don't think you get what I'm saying.

>guy meets girl
>mutual spark of attraction
>guy and girl have sex, and it isn't that great for one or both of them
>and it doesn't get better after repeated attempts
>or one of them doesn't want to have sex nearly as often as the other, no matter how hard they try
>or one of them has kinks/fetishes that the other is just not into, no matter how hard they try to accommodate it
>relationship is basically over

That's what a lack of sexual chemistry in a relationship looks like.

Oh and for the record, I'm 27, divorced from the person I had my first relationship with, and have had a few relationships since then.

I speak from genuine experience.

Try before you buy.

>guy and girl have sex, and it isn't that great for one or both of them
It sounds like you might be a fag. If your relationship suffers because you feel like you could have better genital gratification with someone else, then you never really saw her (or she you) as anything more than a neat person to keep around because sex was nice.

This current-year media-driven obsession with "le the perfect sexxx xd" is retarded and absolutely a psy-op. I strongly recommend suicide as an option to consider.

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Based and redpiled reply. Sex should never be a criterion to judge a relationship by.

Hey, if the quality of the sex you have isn't important to you in a relationship, that's your prerogative.

I personally value sexual compatibility. It doesn't have to be perfect, but if the person lays there like a dead fish, or their rhythm sucks, or whatever, it's going to be lame. Or I could be doing something wrong. I want to be able to not only be satisfied, but also to satisfy my partner.

Because even if you're not worried about the sex being bad, that's no guarantee that it isn't going to bother the other person after a certain point in time.

>Bases relationship on amount of pleasure gained from the partner rather than staying loyal to him no matter what
Yeah, goodluck landing a solid marriage.

No one's saying a relationship should be based around sex, but it is an important component to some people. Just as loyalty alone doesn't make a good relationship, good sex alone also doesn't necessarily make a good relationship.

Created by the court and marriage industry? Marriage has been around before either of those things existed.

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I think that since sex is a big part of having a healthy relationship, it's important to see if you are compatible before you commit to each other for what should be the rest of your life

It shouldnt be a big part. If its enjoyable then thats great, if not then tough luck. Im not leaving my partner because I dont get pleasure from having sex with her.

I'm asking because I'm curious, user. Have you had sex inside a committed relationship before?

Marriage has existed for more than 7000 years

No and I will only have it once as I stated in my thread.

I think the leftist priest told her that marriage is a scam and that she should fuck everyone she could before her pussy withers.

lmao how can marriage have existed for longer than the world has?

>I want to wait until marriage, so it can be sacred and I won't be afraid anymore.
just being honest here, that's a red flag for me. assuming you got raped/diddled, but for whatever reason, you're scared of sex (at least that's how i'm reading this). so i have reason to suspect you won't be able to have sex with me, and no way to be reassured or proven that you can and will have sex with me after we marry. hope that makes sense.
if i can use a crude analogy, it's like confessing you're an agoraphobe but you totes promise you won't be scared to go outside after we get married. that leap of faith is a bit too far for my legs to jump across, babe.

>Im not leaving my partner because I dont get pleasure from having sex with her.
It's quite possible that you will think otherwise after you've had sex and realize that you will have no opportunities to have sex with someone else for the rest of your life.

Well you are objectively wrong and whores like you deserve beatings. One of the few things muzzies got right.

And what if after awhile she gets fed up with not getting any satisfaction of her own?

I can understand wanting to smash traditions more than thinking that a 7000 year old institution found in almost every culture to exist was a contrivance of modern court systems.

How in anyway shape or form did I imply that I was afraid of sex? Im not. Im just a guy who thinks its degrading to have it before marriage. Thats literally all it is.

She should get over her childish mindset

Yeah no. Wont happen user.

I've been with my SO for 8 years and been married for 5. We had premarital sex. We probably wouldn't have survived if we didn't have a healthy sex life. Those moments of intense intimacy after we just had good sex or are having good sex are some of the best moments of my life. Sex is important. It serves to demonstrate that they know you and understand you and care enough to learn your body and what you like and care enough to put in the effort.

She has to get over it. Thats literally what unconditional loyalty is.

>How in anyway shape or form did I imply that I was afraid of sex
literally in the quoted portion, user:
>I want to wait until marriage, so it can be sacred and I won't be afraid anymore.
>I won't be afraid anymore.

Im not afraid of sex. I was fucked by my uncle or whatever the fuck youre implying.

wasnt* LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL that made me laugh.

Sexual compatibility is a myth created by degenerates and sluts to give a post hoc rationalization for their animal like behavior. If you are a straight male a straight female is sexually compatible with you by virtue of being female. Any incompatibility in sexuality is only something that could be caused by an incompatibility in personality (one party refusing some compromise or shared effort to improve the mutual experience).

Almos broke it off with the last girl I was talking to because she wasn't a virgin. Looking back on it I should have, since she ended up leaving me anways

I know people who thought the same, then 10 years in are hitting on girls online to get off to get some human connection.
"It won't happen" doesn't mean anything.

It's a very real thing that happens, so yes I believe in it.
I'll never do it though, as I only want to have sex with one person in my life and not any more than that.

I hope both of you get hit by a truck. Get the fuck off this board degenerate normalfag, and take your sham of a relationship with you

If shit hits the fan, Ill just jerk off.

Youre truly a rare breed femanon. Thank you for giving me hope. How did you come to your decision to abstain?

Sure. But you'll want someone to make you feel desired, someone you click with sexually, someone who makes you feel that "HOLY SHIT" factor.
You'll look for someone, maybe IRL, maybe just online to jerk off with, and cheat.

I know at least 3 very christian, good people who stayed virgin till marriage who did this.

I grew up with 5 brothers and 2 sisters and as the youngest child, was able to see what premarital (and to some extent casual) sex can do to a person.
I'm not religious at all, but when I tell people I'm abstaining till I'm married they always assume so.

Ill kill myself before I cheat on my wife. I cant bear it. I will never be a slave to my impulses. Not when theres a way out and there most often is.

>being naive enough to think it's about his impulses and not hers

Yeah. Either divorce, or a life without sex.

Where are you from femanon? What culture where you raised in? Was it western culture that basically glorifies being a slut? If so then you are a very rare personality indeed.

What a sad sorry excuse for a human you are. What a happy life you must have.

No you dont. The likelihood of a person knowing a single person that abstained until marriage is incredibly low, homosexuals are more common, but the likelihood of knowing 3 and all of them having had an extramarital affair when there is no data suggesting that such marriages are less stable than others makes your anecdotal claim something so implausible as to be ignored.

>good people who stayed virgin till marriage who did this.
Just a reminder for you people who marry christian women: If they don't bleed on the wedding night you can have them stoned to death as per the bible.

I'm from England.
I was raised in quite a poor family, with most of my family members being on state benefits and hardly ever having a job as shameful as it is to admit. I'm the only one since my grandparents to even go to college.
To a part yes the culture (and the media) is to blame but I think there's some deeper reason that plays a part which I haven't discovered yet.

Stop being a subhuman fedoria

Nobody cares how much fake pity you express on Jow Forums Norman. Go signal yourself on Reddit.

What are you majoring in? Did you graduate or not?

Based and redpilled. Stats actually prove that virgins are more loyal that non virgin sluts.

Will you be my chav background gf? Before you reply about how you arent a chav idc I care about the gf part

those same stats have never proven to my satisfaction that they are not confusing cause with effect.

I don't think there's anything wrong with premarital sex, but I don't believe in casual sex.

I don't know what you mean.
I graduated 4 years ago and despite applying for tens of jobs in my field I'm unemployed as I know nobody I could have networked with to land a job. I've even resorted to trying to find work as a cashier (In college I learnt a few programming languages as well as 3D animation, modelling and rigging) which I'm grossly overqualified for.

I'm not a chav though.
I also don't know what a "background gf" is and I won't get into a relationship with a stranger sorry.

How old are you user? Is england a decent place? I might go there soon.

Obviously sluts can not be loyal per definition.

How is that fake pity? It very clear that it's scorn and disgust

Will you be my friend that ignores my inb4?

Go be scornful of robots anywhere else and fuck off from our board

im not into marriage, but i dont support sex until a serious relationship has been formed

I'm in my early 20's.
Depends on the part you visit. Usually, the more rural and remote you go, the more beautiful the landscape and kinder the people.
I remember doing something called "Arthog" in school as a teen (you go to Wales and do outdoorsy stuff) and while trekking in the rain got hopelessly lost. Some old man and his wife actually found me, knew the Scoutmaster and took me back to the camp without a second thought.
If you get lost in a city here you won't even get directions.

I was raised in a very conservative community, we have a church that really pushes it. It's still pretty common. I know plenty of people who waited, much more than 3.
No one really divorces around here, but a lot of people cheat. The 2 couples from my social circle where the husband has been exposed as a cheater are still married, actually.
Both my grandmas knew that my grandpas cheated on them with whores, and both of them didn't mind. Both married 50+ years, virgin till marriage.

I also met a guy online who was a pastor and pushed virginity till marriage in his church, and he got married in his early 20s to his high school sweetheart. Virgin till marriage and all that.
After we talked for a couple of months, he tried pushing for sex and sent me pics of his dick because he hadn't had sex with his wife for 8 years.

I would like to know you better OP. Ive been searching for a LDR as my post says. Im only 20 tho. Would that interest you or not?

I would like that yes. It's pretty late here though, almost 2AM.
Do you have a discord I could add you on?

I too was a robot at one point of my life. It is not a life sentence for everyone and there are those people on this board that aren't hopeless that I can try to share my experiences with. So basically... Fuck you cunt I'll stick around for as long as I want

Do you have whatsapp? Maybe email even. I could give you a group link with only myself in it.

christians cheat because they can't divorce and are stuck in their dead marriages.

Mu wife of 10 years told me im like her busted pickup truck because im a piece of garbage but i get her where shes going(nowhere in particular) and she cant afford to trade up

I don't have a phone I'm afraid.

Sickening degenerate
No user no you do not. Posting fanfiction here is fine, but it means nothing to me.
There is no data suggesting they cheat any more than usual.

At least where I'm from, husbands weren't really expected to be faithful till not so long ago.
Wives were, husbands could fuck whoever as long as they didn't have a romantic connection to the lover and they didn't make it too obvious.
Like - if you went on a work trip and fucked 3 whores, all good. If you fucked a lady in your town once because you loved her since you were 12, you were a cunt. I don't get the reasoning, but my grandma said so.

I think it's a really weird world and they go by rules I don't fully understand. I'd much rather divorce than know my husband is fucking around, or he's not satisfied with me.

please stop shilling whatsapp here. use a chat platform that might remotely give a shit about privacy

If you are the English girl can I be your ldr bf?

Where you claim to be from does not exist
How anyone falls for such obvious horseshit here is beyond me. The handmaidens tale is fantasy

I'm not entering a relationship with anyone while I'm a stranger to them and they are to me.
If you are the person who asked if I have Whatsapp, I'm afraid I don't as I haven't got a phone. I do have a discord though.

Alright Ill get discord. Hol up.

>No user no you do not. Posting fanfiction here is fine, but it means nothing to me.
I'm not saying it's a general rule and if you wait till marriage then you'll be unhappy for life and a cheater.
I know couples who waited till marriage and are happy, and fuck a lot. I
I'm just saying that if you're unhappy, you're probably not going to sit around thinking "oh jeez, I totally lost my chance at life to have a somewhat satisfying sex life" but you're going to do something you don't really like.

>Sickening degenerate
why? in my country marriage isnt that important or needed to be seen as "proper", wasnt really back in the day either believe it or not

Okay. I will wait and then add you and then screenshot the (You) to my post as proof that I'm me. Then I'll have to sleep and chat more in the morning.

Alright I got it. User is Hi Im Allah #0408
And no Im not that dude who asked to be gf

Fuck off shitty gross whore

tell me why first hhgh

Fine then add my discord and ignore that other loser
stranerdaner#5549

Why should I tell you? Trash doesnt deserve any explanation for being tossed

If it doesnt work tell me Im new to discord.