What does r9k think of the new generation of people coming to adulthood? How do you think they will do...

What does r9k think of the new generation of people coming to adulthood? How do you think they will do? Will they fix the problems layed to them by society? All comments and discussion welcome.

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Social media ruined them before they stood a chance

I can't tell if that image is a parody of generation wars or if it's actually serious
>dae people born before 1997 only think about NOW and not the FUTURE???

WRONG

theyre both the same, theyre also the same as all previous generations
everything is the same, always have, always will be
some people will theyre different and special and unique, they're not
the only difference is the resources available to you while youre developing

I disagree, I believe that these kids, now adults, have lived in a world where they were taught shooting drills in school. It sounds terrifying to feel like such a target, that they have to have drills for it. They also watched their parents struggle through the last few years and they are more prudent with their money.

The infograph was stating that millenials are more focused on the now and don't tend to spend as much time thinking and worrying about the future than gen z does.

Why do people keep acting like Generation Z is some kind of saviour? All of them are little degenerate normalfaggot social-media obsessed trend-following conforming pieces of shit

>itt post conservative teen-pandering propaganda to tell yourselves you're saving the world by voting for the most powerful party in the most powerful country in the world

I think that they're realists, they understand and accept the world around them, and I feel like they want to make it better. I've never seen a Gen z kid who wants the world to burn, they want to succeed and live in an unstable world, and I believe theyre gonna fix it

What's the difference between Gen Z and a Millennial who grew up poor as a kid?

They did the same with millennials when you faggots were the babies. It's a narrative pandering to normies and their "genious" kids to normalize phone addiction etc

>I've never seen a Gen z kid who wants the world to burn
The only gen z kids who bag on about politics are the edgy "morals don't matter" types.

Almost every single Gen Z kid witnessed the disappearance of the middle class nationwide. Millenials, were victims of their parents economic status, gen z had no choice but to experience it.

I honestly think gen z can change the world, because they understand what instability is like and want it for no one.

I understand and accept the world around me and don't feel angry about it but my reaction is to withdraw from it and live in my own fantasy world. The world sucks and is supposed to suck so I'm proud of being a loser who doesn't have to deal with it. What generation attitude do I have?

>because they understand what instability is like
Is every other generation just in a fucking alternate dimension during all this or something?

That sounds like more of a millenial attitude, but everyone's different, and i wouldnt be surprised if you were super early gen z.

you've been spending too much time on Jow Forums
Gen Z is very active in politics, unlike the stupid anti-capitalist "bernie or bust, I'm not voting" millennials

No, but those generations didn't grow up around, not accounting for the gi gen or others that grew up around world wars

I'm a 23 year old doomer, I was fucked since the start. Zoomers are no different, they too will have their share of outcasts who will join our fold.

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No but they've graduated and don't have to worry about getting shot at their fucking school

Zoomers are almost identical to millennials though. Not sure where this meme is coming from. Also they are waaaay more leftist, especially the non-white ones.

Every gen has it's people who dont fit exactly into the mold, and thats not a bad thing at all. Also is being a doomer bad?

>Also they are waaaay more leftist
Liberal != leftist
Most democratic politicians would be considered conservative or center-right in Europe
Safety nets are not socialism

The special generation will be the truelly rebellious one. Not just posing like with the punk movement or ignoring and ridiculing the truth like the gen x'ers

I thought they were waaaaaay more right wing than the previous gen. At least I know they dont scapegoat others for their problems, you never hear them blaming their parents for cellphone addiction because they gave it to them.

I'm Millennial and capitalist because I would rather have lots of collections, have more experiences and make money easily through speculation and with virtual products. Muh morals is a stupid argument over why I shouldn't live the good life. Is this view similar to Gen Z?

Whats the special generation? Gen z or something else?

I can't speak for all doomers but yeah, I think using opiates as a form of escapism is pretty bad.

>12 years old
>self-reliant
>self-aware
>realist
All those 6th grade, independent go-getters looking towards the future.
Sure.

>Gen Z
They're still too young to have any strong political foundations.

So does a Millennial who was born to parents on welfare.

Yes. I would say it's the non-stupid view.
Anyone who knows anything about economics or economic history would never identify as an anti-capitalist or anti-consumption.
Your spending is someone else's income.

>Actually defending gun-ban activist
Fuck you, you need to leave America
They had jobs, school, and lives during it. Being nine in during the recession doesn't make you special.

Obviously children aren't self reliant, but the infograph just took into account the ones that were adults.

The idea that gen z is right wing is a total meme. There is almost no data that supports this. Also gen z has yet to actually even move out into the real world so it's difficult to see what they will actually believe when they become real adults.

Millennials are the fucked, garbage generation. That much is certain.

It's an infograph. It literally is just made up bullshit. They didn't even cite sources.

>"my friends just died, please stop letting mentally ill people like the shooter have guns"
>"Fuck you, you need to leave America"
part of a well-regulated militia, dumbass.

Being scared of being shot in school does, also, im not that other poster you mentioned, but I dont agree with gun banning. I just know kids have to live with the fact that they might be shot indiscriminately at their own school

>Boomers (the last bastion of conservatism) are dying off.
>Millennials are too poor to care about muh capitalism
>conservatives decide to just keep on pumping out anti-millennial propaganda while praying that zoomers will somehow be different even though the economy is still shit
Hmmmmmm

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Moron. I was born in 1986 and there were bomb threats called in all the time at my school in the late 90s and early 00s. It was a regular thing and happened many times. Did Zoomers have that?

So? We were founded on our gun rights and fucking that up just because a few libtards are mad doesn't seem like a worthwhile goal.

Bomb threats have been around for a while, however, shootings havent gotten the mainstream attention they have until 1999 and than again 2012, than 2017, than again multiple times 2018. These werent just threats, they actually happened

Not him but I don't feel collective guilt. Anyone expecting me to feel like garbage or guilt for the year I was randomly born in deserves to have their day fucked up.

>conservatives decide to just keep on pumping out anti-millennial propaganda while praying that zoomers will somehow be different even though the economy is still shit
The snake is finally eating itself

>Did Zoomers have that?
this happens regularly whenever kids want to get out of taking a test.
in fact, at my own high school there was an actual DIY pipe bomb stuck in someone's tailpipe. the bomb squad had to do a controlled detonation.

>collective guilt
Clearly you do since that's your first reaction to my post. That infographic may be a bullshit comparison but that stuff it said about millennials is correct for the majority of these atheistic, spiritless cucks.

Yeah but how many times have bomb threats happened to your school? I bet none. Also school shootings were a huge topic in the late 90s and early 00s. The song "Youth of the Nation" was about this.

You have never met a Gen Z kid if you really believe they're not all conforming low IQ niggers

twice. you bet wrong.

I think that they believe that they dont have to prove their self worth to anyone but themselves. Thats why you see them doing stupid stuff, because they dont care what we think

>hang out with neice and nephews
>half way through the night they start unironically talking about race in America and how racist cops are and shit
Keep in mind these kids are just 17-19. What the fuck is wrong with this country?

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Anyone else think these generations are kinda arbitrary? I think Boomers are the only generation with a tangible set off standards.
They're called that because they were born during a literal baby boom with a good period between the boom and continual population growth due to them being too young to have babies. Every other "generation" is just kinda made up ideas. They exist in that there are general age groups for things people went through (eg Gen X's Iraq War and MTV, Millennials having 9/11 and the 2008 crash, Zoomers having Trump, etc) but besides being in their twenties correlating to events, there is little connection.
Example, I was born in 1998, my brother 1995, and my sister 2008. This graph would put my brother on an entirely other generation, and my sister in the same generation despite her being growing up in a very different set of standards.

>Be a massive hack of a half baked intellectual writer.
>Literally braindead in every way but you come up with the term "generation X"
>Become wildly successful, millionaire. Your name is Coupland.
>A new class of writers NEED to get some of that generational alarmist cash.
>Literally be a "performance artist" and complete intellectual hack. Invent the term "millennial" to mean actually anyone born in a 20 year timeframe, almost twice as long as any of the generations YOU fucking made up like the "greatest generation" or the "forgotten generation". These are terms YOU LITERALLY MADE UP.
>Get insanely famous and rich. Literally rewrite our understanding of generations but give "these damn kids and their fucking goddamn iPods" twice the length of bullshit of any other. Your name is William Strauss.

The entire concept of "gen X" "gen y" "gen z" is totally artificial and just a means to sell books and "muh collapsing societal values" alarmist bullshit.

Look at this bullshit nonsense. The millennials are supposedly only focused on the now? Fucking really? All the environmentalist and social justice bullshit is just for the NOW?

Young people are self centered but think they aren't. They are rebellious against the establishment authority because they think they know better.

Older people are self centered but pretend it's because they have enough experience to know the right path. They are conformist to the establishment authority because during their youth they changed enough of the establishment to their liking to settle for a middle ground.

Since the goddamn Roman Empire we have seen this shit. Stop acting like "Le children are the problem" or "DAE boomers are leaving dumb?".

...cops are racist?
There was a recent case of an Oklahoma police chief getting fired for running an online white supremacist organization and getting rehired in a neighboring precinct because they dgaf.
Law enforcement seems to attract a certain undesirable type of person.

I'm not defined by the majority. I'm defined by my own actions. If people treat me negatively as a "group" instead of an individual person they'll get mowed down. I don't care if you call me a special snowflake. Get used to it.

I think your first staement sorta disproves your whole statement. I know you excluded it but just by it existing means that they're based on the time they're born, and their societal values based on the tragedies happening around them.

>curators and sharers

I read this as "cunts and sharters"

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My values were based on what personally happened to me and extensive reading through books and the internet.

and that media was based on or influenced by the current events around you

I read books from all kinds of different eras. I read many things published before my parents were born. The websites I went to had material from many years. Society is a meme. You can choose your beliefs. I also felt disconnected to my peers. They were like space aliens to me.

How the fuck can you call gen z self-reliant when the top end is only 18? No way in hell the majority are providing for themselves

According to that infograph, the oldest are 23

A Millennial who grew up in poor areas as a kid also had no choice but to experience it. Why would other people's experiences make his experiences less real? Whatever you personally experience is your personal reality.

Boomers have been pretending that gen z are all mini-boomers for at least 5 years now.

Gen Z and the young Boomers were opposites. The young Boomers were hippies and obsessed with Woodstock.

Only a small minority of boomers were actually hippies. Most boomers hated hippies and supported the war in Vietnam, even during the 70s. Boomers have always been fairly conservative. Their parents were the libcucks.

One thing I will say about our generation is that among normies people generally like good things and dislike bad things, and most of that is based off of what we were taught. People think it's a good thing if you tried hard and did well in school and were involved in a lot of activities and held a job as a teenager instead of getting your money handed to you and if you have an actual practical plan for your life and are working towards it and if you are polite at least to people's faces and are competent and know what to do and are socially involved and give a good presentation of yourself to others and do well for the things we represent. I noticed a major shift in my school from when millenials were at the top compared to when we were at the top. Millenials called kids try-hards as an insult and fucking hated anyone who tried to actually take pride in the school for anything other than football and even then you were a fucking weirdo if you got excited during the game. When we were the senior class people even admired the fucking robotics and theatre teams when they did well because it earned money for our school and made us look good. People liked those who were smart and energetic and competent because it's good to know what to do and actually be taking steps towards accomplishing something and having a good time with chill people. Aggressive too cool to care fuck-offs went from being at the top of social heierchy to the bottom, those are the ones with only a few friends and the ones who get talked about behind their backs.

That pic is heavily biased

Wise post, embarrasingly underrated.

I was like a Gen Z youth born in the Millennial generation. I got excited over things and was called a try hard or intense. Caring about anything or feeling passion was bad. Standing out was bad. Eventually the ostracism made me a misanthropic society drop out who hates people with a passion.

Judging by younger siblings and their peers:

They're super pessimistic and dread the future, since they weren't raised with the "just go to college and you'll get a good job!" mindset most of our generation was. Combined with the internet being in every kid's pocket (unlike when it was specialized to nerdy folks with special interests like our generation), they get into an echo chamber very easily since everything they see is formed by algorithms. I think this results in a more polarized population (tldr right wingers gonna right, left wingers gonna left).

That being said, I do think they're too sensitive. They weren't around for the Wild West internet days so they can't handle even the slightest banter. Like bitch, you wouldn't last a day in a livejournal flame war back lol. This transfers to IRL where they think everyone needs to think the way they do or they don't feel safe.

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Their parents were socially right wing and fiscally left wing. Boomers were fiscally right wing and socially left wing.

>self reliant
what a load of bs

Also, at least in small towns and in a lot of the inner cities people are fairly conservative. The attitude for seeing someone in a fucked up situation isn't really "oh man we all need to help them" as it is "they probably brought that on themselves, I'm glad I'm doing well". That's probably going to reflect from an economic standpoint when they get both the paychecks and voting power (because most everyone I know in my generation had a job as a teenager) and see where their money is going. A lot of people think our generation is liberal because the people trying to manufacture all the "cool" stuff right now are millenials who took a lib arts degree and thought "I should write for VICE so I can tell teenagers about how cool these homosexual marvel heroes are!" We make fun of that obvious shit. The only thing I would say people have been completely fucking waysided on is gun control, but that's a different story all together because I've met just as many people my age passionately for it as I have passionately against it. A lot of that shit is hardly even brought up, really, because a lot of people just know where they stand and how they've done their research and don't care to argue like idiots over it. Except online anonymously, because these types of places really are where we get most of our information in the place of real world experience.

Gen Z has no idea how hard it was I the late 00s and early 10s economy. They got in when Trump improved everything so they act egotistical. The official unemployment rate in my county was almost 20 percent in 2009. Many businesses shut down with entire plazas left empty.

It was like that for a lot of the people in the early-mid gen z when they were young because people liked to emulate the ones at the top, but I distinctly remember some of the things that used to get me laughed at beginning to garner me some social points. Being in theatre went from being gay to being something that someone was willing to put time into just so the school would make some money and get involved in the community. Robotics went from being nerdy to being interesting and something to take pride in once a lot of people got involved and our team went to state, same for cross country. The people most looked up to in classes were the ones who paid attention and did well, the least liked were the ones who always just fucked off and made it more difficult to learn. It seemed like people just collectively decided it was better to just not be assholes for cheap laughs and instead let people enjoy their lives.

they are only active in politics because it is cool, woke kid thing to do. They dont actually care about politics at all and just go on about the same shit they saw on teen vogue on their snapchat that morning.

School shootings aren't a big threat; they're overblown by the media. The crime rate was far higher in the 90s than now.

You forget that those were the kids who had to listen to their parents argue about and get divorced over money and see all the stores they liked to go to as a kid close down and not be able to have the newest shoes or phone unless they were willing to get a job and work for it. hear their fathers complain about how much of their paycheck was going to taxes and how much obamacare fucked their parents over. It's a point of pride in the generation if you went through hard times and had to struggle when you were younger because we recognize that usually makes you a tougher and more capable person. Not to mention all of the older siblings who are saturated in debt and still living at home.

So what should I do? I hate most of my Millennial peers because they expect everyone to be the same with bland emotions.

So I drop out and refuse to socialize. Not socializing or being a part of society means I get to keep my views and individuality without the horde trying to stop me.

The dumb ones do that. I know plenty of people my age who want the system to run the way they think is right, and have done a lot of research to categorize what precisely that is. We know it's going to be the system we're a part of so we want it to be good.

Many Millennials and Gen Xers who grew up poor had to go through the same thing. You're not the only one to experience this.

If you can't keep your own views when faced with socialization I don't think your views were very well founded to begin with. And if you can't just enjoy being yourself regardless of other people's opinions you're kind of weak and a coward.

and what is "good" to them? communism? because i'm part of gen x and see that most of the people our age if they're into politics are just filthy commies. and yeah, pretty sure the people who have done research are a pretty small number compared to the entirety of the people who make up our generation. and if they did do research, it could very well just be confirmation bias.

But you all didn't go through it at the age of 7 or 5 or 10. You were part of the generation that was applauded for getting participation trophies and got to experience most of your very habitive forming years in relative peace and security, at least as reported by the media. Dr. Oz fucked you guys up and we were told about the exact ways it did the entire time we were growing up.

Social interactions with forced conformity and demanding consensus aren't worth it unless I'm pissing them off and I can do this as a society drop out because I have nothing to lose . I keep my views. I had to push against the tide. You were lucky to be born in a group who agreed with you. I feel like an alien to all the generations.

The views vary a lot and aren't often discussed. I would say the majority I have talked to want free markets because we've taken basic economics classes and aren't retarded, but recognize that socialist systems work well if you take out human nature as a factor. From social issue standpoints it honestly is mixed as fuck, most people just don't care so much to talk about it because it can ruin good times but it seems most rural and poor urban areas love guns and feel pretty conflicted about all the 50000000 genders shit, while the exact opposite is true for the liberals. Those are the main two issues talked about. Also, actual racism is pretty widespread but people mostly just laugh that shit off.

Our generation got around all that by just not talking about polarizing shit. People generally are just confident and content in their views and the only people they'll try to change the minds of or discuss with is close friends who they know will still like and respect them anyway or absolute strangers on the internet.

Peace and security? I regularly saw shot out windows in restaurants and spent lots of unsupervised in low income areas. I've had to throw stones at people trying to hit me with baseball bats. Fights were a regular thing and so was grafitti. I heard about drive by shootings, armed robberies, and arson regularly in the news since 5. I knew about AIDS and gasoline fires. I did many unsafe things and it was unstable. Yes this was the 90s your parents told you about. You don't get to tell me shit about my experiences.

Why would anyone care about an abstract piece of plastic? I don't get the other generations thinking participation trophies influenced us a lot or determined our world views.

You are too society focused and don't think people can reach conclusions on their own. I have Asperger's. I analyze the world and come to my own conclusions all the time. My brain just deletes information I see as stupid. Why would I think everyone wins if I read history? I can read anything. The society meme doesn't cut it.

Many Gen Z kids grew up rich like Baron Trump. You didn't all suffer. You were also weren't old enough for the job market in the worst of the recession. Some Millennials did go through that at 5, 7, or 10 and that's a fact.

You act cocky now you got in the Trump economy. I'm creating a startup. I'd honestly fire you if you said "partcipation trophy generation" to my face and didn't apologize. Let's see you act all cocky and tough when your money is gone and you're jobless.

Not everyone has your peers. Some of us have peers offended by everything to the point it's better to be antisocial. Since other generations hate me and my own generation hates me I owe society nothing.

lmao my sister is a teacher and all she talks about (with me because im the only person she personally knows that knows about Twitch shit) is about how all the kids want to be streamers.

So iono about realists

They are arrogant assholes who think they are tough because mommy told them.

nice chart there. Seems to be directly pulled out of someones ass. In any case GenZ and the millennials are fucked in the US. Debt has gone out of control and we will be stuck paying it all back. The boomers robbed this fucking country and screwed us all.

Gen Z think they are the only ones who have been poor and think only their suffering matters. They are stupid little shits who keep saying "participation trophy generation". Fuck them.

nigga his extra creculars should not get him shitcanned

categorizing generations like this is so millennial.