Why do normie girls keep screeching about "grooming"? Why is it soooooo terrible to them...

And its ridiculous how this "grooming" they will accuse men of doing even over the internet, like just for simply talking to them apparently that is like rape now the way they are acting?? Jesus the snowflake complex and regret for decisions is real. Many of these men have never even touched let alone met these women claiming they were "groomed"

Never, NEVER, underestimate just how low a woman will go to for attention.

she is 16 and has lip injections LOL i hate this roastie too

they know they can't compete

There is one rule women will always follow

"IT WAS NEVER MY FAULT"

>tfw had a brief relationship with a 16y/o girl when I was 19, who was introduced to me through mutual friends, probably thinks I was grooming her, even though we never had sex

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DIGITS FOR THE DIGIT GOD.

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>tfw only have instagram to follow teen thots
>tfw fapping to instagram stories of 14-15yo brazil whore with big tiddies
>tfw in one of the stories her dad is hanging out on her bed while she's in her bra bouncing around
he's a lucky lad tbqh

i want to groom lala

Replace the word "grooming" with "manipulation" and you'll understand what they're talking about. It's hard to look at the sentence and think it's terrible if you use the normal definition of grooming, which concerns maintaining one's appearance and personal hygiene. In this context, grooming is manipulating someone to be more suggestive towards sex when they otherwise would not be due to their age.

DO NOT SEXUALISE THE KASHIKOMA.

I witnessed a case from this shithole.It's fucking disturbing and 'groomers' should be hanged in public.You are fucking ruining girls for everyone,and then you complain about
>muh no innocent pure gf

Imagine you're an autistic 16 year old incel who has things thrown at him, has physical, verbal and social bullying and ostracism with his peers treating him like he's a pariah. You find a 30 year old woman who loves you and appreciates you for who you are.

Then these idiot Boomers tell you to work it out with people who see you as subhuman. But these same Boomers think that 30 year old woman who shows you love is evil.

It's OK to treat someone like a subhuman but if you love someone younger you're a monster. According to these Boomers a relationship with someone who treats him as subhuman is better. What honestly made the Boomers think getting treated as subhuman is better than being loved by someone older?

Roasties project their own characteristics onto men. They know very well how consciously they seek to manipulate and use men, so when they see even the hint of a possibility of a man having the dominant position in any relationship with a woman, they assume the man in question must intend to abuse whatever status advantage he has to the same extent that they would were they in the same position.

What isn't a manipulation then? Make-up is technically manipulation.

>Make-up is technically manipulation.
Mental manipulation you goddamn moron. You are fucking with someone psychologically to shape them into the kind of person you want them to be.

Nothing is wrong with travis-iris relationships like in pic related for me.But there are some creeps who take the 'grooming' to a fucking disgusting degenerate level.

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Yeah, what counts as manipulation though?
Is hunger mental manipulation to make me want to eat?

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Hard fact: Women are more desirable the younger they are, right down to the point of pubescence.

Roasties hate it!

I'm female and still don't get it. I was told men were looking for sex at a young age and would say things to get in your pants. Men of all ages do it so I don't see a difference.

As for people not having sex at that age otherwise? Live in the real world. Several people I was friends with became teen parents. One was on purpose. She told me at 12 she'd have a baby at 16 and she did. She said the government and child support would pay it. I hung out with a 14 year old who flashed random cars and brought older men in her room. She didn't become a teen mom but it shows how reality is like.

Nobody read that shit and thought "wow she's complaining that a 23 year old combed her hair, what a dumb roast"

You can do that at any age to someone any age. Plenty of same age people manipulate each other.

I certainly did, until I took a minute to think about what grooming would mean in the "older yank grooms younger yank" context.

Hunger isn't caused by another person, it's your body's response to not having enough food recently. When I am talking about manipulation I am talking about words. Things people are SAYING to you in order to CHANGE you. Grooming is a type of this kind of manipulation where the end goal is to make someone more sexually responsive.

Unless you hang out in sjw/pizza circles, that's exactly what they will think.

All those dog grooming businesses ain't about getting a chihuahua to blow you.

no matter how you spin it its you wanting to know why its wrong to groom under age girls which in itself is a sad thing to be asking when its obviously fucked up then again most people here are cum brains that fap to loli

I know a guy who dated a 14 year old online when he was 17.
To be fair, she lied to him and said she was also 17 when they started.
They talked for a year before sex ever came up in conversation and it was initiated by her because she was fascinated with the idea of bjs after her friend described them to her, but had no experience.
They were together on and off for 5 years, even got pregnant before she bailed and got with an even older man.
>mfw she probably told her family, friends and husband that she was "groomed"
The women never accept responsibility meme is true and we as men enable it.

>Things people are SAYING to you in order to CHANGE you.
You mean, what you're doing to me right now?

There is no behavior in you that I am trying to change. All I am trying to do is make you understand a topic.

>girl talks about pedophilia and being groomed when she was underage
>"hmm, between the two common uses of the word, it's probably the one that concerns personal hygiene"

>its wrong to groom under age girls
What if the affection between both parties is genuine?

There IS a grey area here that seems to only exist outside of the US.

I'm female and was told from an early age men will say anything to get into your pants. You're treating people like they're stupid. I knew men wanted sex. If you want the sex say yes. If you don't say no it's that simple. I don't know how people don't know something this obvious.

And I'm just trying to make 13 year old girls understand that there's nothing wrong them having sex with me. What's the difference?

Some men love to whiteknight women and some women love to play the victim. That said, there are different levels to it, the mudslime grooming rings in the UK are something else when compared to OP.

And as a male, I can tell you that telling a guy 'no' doesn't actually stop them, and either inspires them to keep trying, or get angry and take it out on you. And I can confirm that I've had the same behaviours before, and have gone off on some girls for simply saying 'no' to me.

>All I am trying to do is make you understand a topic.
Which is still forcing him/her into something they don't want.

I think we have too much of a victim culture where people are told that something's wrong with them if they don't feel traumatized from something. It's so infantilizing yet people say it's makes stronger women.

>16
>pedo
Wow, ameritards

If you ask the question "what's wrong with grooming", explaining the topic isn't something they don't want.

>I am one of the worst men around and let me tell you about how I conduct my business, while generalizing it to all men, in an effort to get you to understand why we need laws against my personal behavior

lol the guy probably didn't have sex with her or want to

she just developed a crush on an older guy and now feels embarrassed by it. this is the teenage equivalent of accidentally calling the teacher mommy and then thinking it was childhood sexual abuse years later

Just because they asked for something, doesn't mean consent on their part. "Trying to make" somebody do something () is still wrong when they haven't established clear consent.

You can tell them you're waiting for marriage IRL. Also a lot of this "grooming" happens online. Online you can just ghost someone if you're not interested. I don't know why other girls are like OMG I'm such a victim an older man on the internet said I was pretty.

That's the modern approach to everything. Was going to write "leftist" but it's not like the right isn't or wasn't doing it, although the ones that concern women specifically are definitely feminism's doing.

Nice #NotAllMen argument, there.

well yeah thats because muslim grooming isnt grooming, its gang rape that is obscured by the police refering to it with a nicer word and then not arresting anyone involved

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You're trying to change my views on the subject. To agree with you.
Same as grooming, changing a persons view on another person.

#notallanybody
how about you stop generalising groups and think of people as individuals you collectivist pig

I don't know why leftists think a kid can consent to get puberty blockers and permanently change their body at 9 but they can't consent to some flirting at 16.

>You can tell them you're waiting for marriage IRL.
You can make any excuse you want, but it doesn't really stop them. For some men, no matter the reason, no matter the context, just as long as you're denying something they want, it's enough for them to turn ugly in a flash.

>Online you can just ghost someone if you're not interested.
Which you can find stories of guys stalking, and confronting the girl for ghosting them.

>I don't know why other girls are like OMG I'm such a victim an older man on the internet said I was pretty.
Because it, sadly, takes a turn for the worst sometimes. Hence the vigilance.

this is just fucking retarded, women don't date down in age.
also 16 is perfectly legal in half the states, and all over the world.

asking for a friend here, but is sending love letters to a 16 year old when you are 26 groming?

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The former promotes diversity and the latter promotes patriarchy.
Diversity at all costs!

but he's right. that is something men tend to do, and behavior women are already aware of, and try to be wary. it's a statistical fact, and has been observed throughout history. :/

literal double think, they're all indoctrinated, notice how everything they do is intersectional, if they are a feminist they are also a black rights activist and a trans rights activist and for open boarders and socialism. theres never any nuance because they use group think, you never see someone who supports feminism but isnt also a marxist

now its not all left leaning people, some people are just moderately left wing, but everyone involved in the feminism movement is also involved in every other marxist movement

children shouldnt be able to consent to sex or puberty blockers

jokes on you my gf is older and taller and likes to /ss/ roleplay

But people are connected by the groups they're in, not the individuality. They're always going to have things in common with each other, deemed by race, culture, gender, sexuality, family, environment, etc. People who, no matter their individuality, will still have characteristics and behaviours in common with each other, based on, and instilled, by those traits. That's how have always worked.

those digits tho oh baby

If it turns ugly it means she dodged a bullet. He would have turned violent later anyways.

As for stalking, you'd have to be a brainlet to tell strangers your last name or address online or the exact city you live in. If you keep your privacy and don't webcam it's no big deal. I've ghosted people on the Yahoo chatrooms when they were around. Nothing happened. You're too scared of everything.

fucking quints btfo's the roasties who hit the wall

how you go about landing a mommy gf user?

not quints, but still very nice digits reflecting truth

each person can be catagorised into so many different groups its irrelevant

>oh you're gay so you must think like this
>oh you're also black so you must think like this
>oh you're also muslim so you must think like this
sure this person will have things in common with people in their groups, they will also have things that are different about them compared to these groups. This person will also have things in common with all sorts of people not in "his groups" too.

people are individuals not collectives

found her on r9k and turned out she lived near me

>Just because they asked for something, doesn't mean consent on their part
Actually it does. Unless they're a child, but YOU MUST BE 18 OR OLDER TO USE THIS SITE.

>If it turns ugly it means she dodged a bullet.
It means he can hurt, possibly kill, her right then and there. And later down the line.

>As for stalking, you'd have to be a brainlet to tell strangers your last name or address online or the exact city you live in.
There's still ways to track somebody, no matter how neat and private you are. And there's still risks to consider, like accidentally bumping into them further down the line, or establishing mutual friends that neither of you intended or were aware about at first, or somehow finding yourselves in the same job or classroom without neither being aware of each other's presence, or they can simply follow you shortly after the rejection or do who knows what. It's still a life risk.

>I've ghosted people on the Yahoo chatrooms when they were around. Nothing happened.
Doesn't mean it won't happen eventually.

>You're too scared of everything.
You're too naive.

because some of these girls are young and kids do stupid things? that and the adult in the situation should know what they are doing is wrong

>girl: will you please fuck me
>guy: ok
>girl: waaaah, i was raped
please fellate a loaded shotgun

>sure this person will have things in common with people in their groups, they will also have things that are different about them compared to these groups.
But still things in common with whatever demographic they so happen to belong, and will still have the same behaviours and mindsets as that group, even if the individuals have never met.

>This person will also have things in common with all sorts of people not in "his groups" too.
Wrong, it means they have things in common with another demographic they're part of.

>people are individuals not collectives
Completely false, otherwise groups would not exist at all. And given the preceding context, you have sex crime statistics based on gender to suggest a certain group disproportionally commits the most crime against the other.

ohh shit used up roasties btfo

This is the difference between eastern and western feminism

She can still withdrawal consent at any time.

No, it doesn't. Just because they explicitly say something, doesn't actually mean they meant it.

See, I can relate to this kind of risk aversion. That's why I'm never going to move in with, marry a woman, or have a relationship with a woman that has anything to do with my industry.

>people are individuals not collectives
which is actually an american view not shared by the most of the world.

The people I talked to were outside of my state and sometimes even country so the chances of meeting them by accident were nil. It wasn't like Tinder or localized dating sites and apps.

Also if a man would kill a woman for saying no to sex he'd be a ticking time bomb. He would have gone off eventually.

>The people I talked to were outside of my state and sometimes even country so the chances of meeting them by accident were nil.
But not a zero percent by any means. And not low enough to risk.

>Also if a man would kill a woman for saying no to sex...
Which you have crime statistics of that happening.

>... he'd be a ticking time bomb. He would have gone off eventually.
But you would still be one of his victims of when he does go off, or before he takes a turn for the worst. And most people are willing to risk their lives on some random threat.

>which is actually an american view not shared by the most of the world.
im not american tho?

Damn, and the digits say it all!

But people of any age can manipulate you into sex.

It's funny people say kids so stupid things to protect then like this but also give them adult sentences for crime including the death penalty. They want kids to be punished to the max.

If you write a list to vent frustration, you can be sent to prison for years and have your life ruined at 13. All because of zero tolerance.

cool, but still the mindset of an individualist culture. most world cultures are collectivist.

This is super hot. Damn, where do you live?

>Just because they explicitly say something, doesn't actually mean they meant it.
What is a verbal contract?

Cheeeeeeeeeeeecked. Bless the holy quints.
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I had an ex who may or may not have been assaulted by her friend's dad. She could easuly find out but she refuses to.
When I learned of it, I got almost frustrated with her refusal to find out (our duty to truth clearly differed), but she just kept saying that knowing didn't change anything so why bother?
I still think that's the coward way's out but since then I can at least respect that she denied herself victimhood. She was a strong woman in her own way.

easily find out if it happened or not*
since then I've found myself respecting that she denied herself victimhood*

Surely, not all women are this dumb. R-right?

she doesn't even know the definition of a pedophile. Apparently someone should be looking out for her because having to breathe and think at the same time may be all she can handle.

I'm repeating this post but here goes: I'm female and still don't get it. I was told men were looking for sex at a young age and would say things to get in your pants. Men of all ages do it so I don't see a difference.

As for people not having sex at that age otherwise? Live in the real world. Several people I was friends with became teen parents. One was on purpose. She told me at 12 she'd have a baby at 16 and she did. She said the government and child support would pay it. I hung out with a 14 year old who flashed random cars and brought older men in her room. She didn't become a teen mom but it shows how reality is like.

Age of consent is 16 in Canada and nearly in half of USA. 18 years old in only a rule in about 10 states out of 50, yet for some reason finding anyone hot under the age of 18 is seen as weird and creepy. Hell, in half of Europe age of consent is 14 and 15.

Is this an NPC meme where they go by porn video notices where they say you have to be over 18 to view the material?

Trips don't lie.
Originally original.

Probably. But those same NPCs have no problem letting their 12 year old kids watch women being gang banged online.