Do americans really get married so young? Why?

>muh tax benefits maymay
Except that this often isn't true, faggot. Even if it were, it wouldn't exactly negate the risk of getting divorced and being robbed of half your shit.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriage_penalty

6 years of knowing somebody
I'm so clingy I would've asked him in marriage much earlier

That's because you're a clingy faggot.

In the more religious parts of the country, yes. In Mormon-dominated areas and the Bible Belt, it's not uncommon for people to get married as soon as they graduate high school.

There's always one to three couples who get married in high school. Usually the man becomes a redneck and the woman gets fat. Literally nothing good comes from high school.

I have lots of cousins in Iowa who usually find a husband in college and get married after they graduate, so at age 21-22
They seem pretty happy so far

Yes, after I graduated high school, there were so many girls getting knocked up and getting married. Some of them have like 2- 4 kids and they're not even 25 yet.

Women should be married around 14 and men should be married around 24. This is the perfect age gap and individual age for both sexes to have a happy marriage and reproductive life.

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>tfw too socially deficient to get married or even have a relationship

>Do americans really get married so young? Why?
The Bible says no sex before marriage, and they want to fuck without going to hell.

It also has a lot to do with socioeconomic status; I went to prep school and you would be laughed at if you got engaged before the age of 25 or so. There was one girl who got engaged at age 18, but she was white trash who was only there because her mom was the school janitor so she didn't have to pay tuition.

Calm down there Vladimir Nabokov.

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>average age for marriage in the 1950s was 22
>average age a woman had their 1st child in the 1950s was 21
before the last 30 years normally when you knock a girl up you hitched up because their was no welfare state and no bc pills.
Most are just following old memes when you couldn't control when you havd a child.

Normalfags will call this evil but it really would be the healthiest societal structure.

>Mormons tend to get married at around 16.
Where you getting that?

In my mom's day they would get married at 18 or 19 but now it's probably 22-25.

if you havent fathered any ch1ldren by 16

theres something wrong with you

>t.alex j0nez

Before nature was interrupted through birth control.
Younger adults produce healthier offspring, younger marriages create healthier societies.

>Women should be married around 14
stupid bullshit
at 14 they don't have a developed personality yet
within few years they'd be different persons and they'd loath to be in a marriage with you when they want to truly start to live their life
-> then your marriage starts to suck
also:
stfu PEDO

most of my 20-25 yo coworkers are already engaged or married, shit is pretty depressing

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>at 14 they don't have a developed personality yet
All women are mentally 12. If they haven't developed a personality by 14, when the age of reason is like 7, then they will be vapid whores their entire lives.

You use the thought processes of a normalfag, your IQ is likely double digits.

>younger marriages create healthier societies.
Islamic societies and literally all of the 3rd world beg to differ.

>All women are mentally 12.
t. someone who has never had a conversation with a woman who isn't a service worker or his mom.

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AoC in every first world nation is 16 or younger and used to be younger.

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ooh perfect you sick fuck, I bet if you can you'd like to fuck them already between 7 and 12, amirite?
to every sane person it's obvious that a choice such important as a marriage has to be done by adult and mature people.
don't try to sell your legalizeadultfuckingwithearlyteens.now shit bc it won't pass, you twisted pervert

Legal != moral or acceptable.
If you think fucking a 10 year old is okay, you've got problems.

>failed normalfags absolutely SEETHING
Head on over to >>>/reddit/

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>moral
Give me an objective standard for determining a humans right to marry and engage in reproductive acts other than their ability to reproduce.

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>Tfw when so highschool sweetheart
>Tfw no kiss at prom
>Tfw you don't fall in love with a girl the same time as she falls in love with you
>Tfw you won't ever share each other's virginity
>Tfw when you won't ever marry her
>Tfw when you never fill her belly with children
>Tfw you won't ever grow old together
>Tfw you won't say goodbye to her on your deathbed
>Tfw no afterlife with soulmate
>Tfw

fbi.gov

hurensonnnn

haha!
no more arguments
-> reeeeeee go back on leddit you normie owoooo
ROFL
instead I'll stay here to bother obnoxious fucking pedos like you

Lifelong scarring from underage sex.

>pubescent and post-pubescent humans
>pedo
An argument requires two intellects. You don't have the tools to participate.

>Give me an objective standard for determining a humans right to marry and engage in reproductive acts other than their ability to reproduce.
They are generally likely to be capable of safe reproduction.
This is not true of 10 year olds, most of whom are not capable of menstruating. Some women ages 12-15 are capable of getting pregnant, but birth is highly dangerous before about age 16 due to girls' narrow pelvic structure.

Objectively define "underage." I think all premarital sex causes mental scars and damages the soul.

Does a girl having "underage" sex when she is 15 and the AoC is 16 scar her? What if she moves to a country where AoC is 14? Will she scarred to have sex there? You have no objective line for drawing when a female is not fit to engage in reproductive acts because you have been brainwashed by feminist Communists. Nature provides a perfect line, a line all mammals follow, ability to reproduce.

shut up pedofag lol, theres nothing a 14 year old girl can offer an adult man other than his pathetic virgin waifu fetish and most 14 year olds nowadays aren't virgins anyway. 14 yos literally suck at everything, they're mentally immature, more likely to die in child birth etc. your perversion isnt reality

>They are generally likely to be capable of safe reproduction.
The majority of females finish puberty around 15 and will be able to safely give birth at this point. Why shouldn't women be allowed to marry before this point and get used to home life with their husband before breeding?

most 3rd world and Islamic societies encourage polygamy which creates a lot of fucking instability in your society. It's why monogamy was enforced as the norm, it was the only way to keep things going right. To many males with no chance at a partner leads to serious declines in your society.

no, it's usually mid 20s

They are mentally immature because they are raised improperly, just like you. I know plenty of teenage girls that would make fine mothers, and I know some lucky ones that were blessed with wise parents that allowed them to marry in their teens.

yet that bride in your post is a full sexually developed woman and not a child, right?
come on, you're anonymous here, open up, tell us, at what age would you really like to fuck them? don't think to laws or to what's good or not for society, tell us what you'd really like.

I live in poor America and it is very very normal. No one can afford to live on their own.

But when I was living in the city a couple years back no one my age was even thinking about marriage. I think it really depends on where you grew up and how much money you're making

different user with a different angle:
Say it finally happens and we crack the genes to where you can't get pregnant until you choose too, would you see moral issue with underage sex then?

No they're mentally immature because they are 14 year olds and have roughly 8 more years of mental development to go through. Someone raised improperly would be a man in his 20's lusting after girls 10 years younger than him because he knows deep down he isn't good enough for women his own age and needs to chase gullible young teens

Their personality will develop around their marriage

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>Why shouldn't women be allowed to marry before this point and get used to home life with their husband before breeding?
Because being married by definition requires having sex, and any sex before the age 16 can lead to a medically dangerous pregnancy. Birth control fails.
Why is any minor, who is legally property of their parents/guardians, entitled to the ability to get married?

If you don't want to be permanently poor in America, there are 3 steps you must follow:
>1. Don't have children before marriage.
>2. Finish high school.
>3. Get a job.

That's it. Do those three things and you won't be permanently poor in the US.

I'd like something like this but I have a feeling they're both shit people, like the 23 year old with 3 kids is a tatted up thot

I was just going to post this . It's not a fucking meme people saw poly as degenerate, it fucks things up to much with the population. Hell the entire reason their is a gender dimorphism of upper body strength is because at some point eons ago the best of the best men were claiming all the women and the weaker males genes died off.

>Say it finally happens and we crack the genes to where you can't get pregnant until you choose too, would you see moral issue with underage sex then?
If it's 14 year olds having sex with each other, no.
If it's an older person taking advantage of a 14 year old child with an underdeveloped brain and a decision-making ability that is scientifically proven to be faulty, yes.

Midwest (rural) user here can comfirm. We have some underrated qts.

I have no interest in premarital sex or "fucking", you degenerate pig. Ideally I will the girl I'm now courting when she is 14.
>No they're mentally immature because they are 14 year olds and have roughly 8 more years of mental development to go through.
Factually incorrect. The female brain is fully developed around 17. The male brain is the one that develops into the mid 20s. All women are mentally the same, the older ones(sometimes) expand their vocabulary and become better at tricking betas such as yourself. You call it being raised improperly to adhere to mating strategies mankind has employed for our entire existence, you call it improper to pursue a fertile wife, I say this in repsponse: enjoy your dusty egged roastie and nintendo switch.

>The female brain is fully developed around 17.
Do you have scientific proof of this, or did you just pull it out of your ass?
17 is 3 years older than 14, anyways.

I dont even see any tits

>improper to pursue a fertile wife
women are fertile well into their 30s and sometimes 40s
what's wrong with marrying a fucking adult with a fully developed brain

>If it's an older person taking advantage of a 14 year old child with an underdeveloped brain and a decision-making ability that is scientifically proven to be faulty, yes.

You do know that most data shows average men by default have more volumes and cortical thickness in their brain and nerves than women do meaning women are always underdeveloped.

>taking advantage
I'm fully supportive of the father's role in judging and choosing which men are allowed to court his daughter. It is his job to protect her and transfer her under the coverture of her husband.
Do you have proof of your claim which you made first? Google it, I'm not your biology teacher. All women are mentally unfit if it comes to contest with a male intellect.

Before roastie rights and the roastie liberation movement. It was very common to be happily married with multiple kids before 26.

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>women are fertile well into their 30s and sometimes 40s
LOL
O
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>Do you have proof of your claim which you made first? Google it, I'm not your biology teacher. All women are mentally unfit if it comes to contest with a male intellect.
I didn't make any claims, I'm a different user dumbass.
Prove YOUR claim that women's brains mature by 17.

A lot of birth defect issues and mutations come into play as a woman get older, usually after 24 it starts scaling worse and worse. Also you have the other issue that the older you are having the kid the weaker and less energy you are going to have to deal with it. A 35 year old women won't have the same energy as a 25 year old one.

No. They aren't even supposed to DATE until they are 16, and you aren't supposed to get married until after a mission. The women tend to marry the first guy that waves at them in college, though.
t. raised mormon

>Google it, I'm not your biology teacher

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they are fertile after the 30 in the same way perish goods are still digestible after they expire a week later.

>I'm fully supportive of the father's role in judging and choosing which men are allowed to court his daughter. It is his job to protect her and transfer her under the coverture of her husband.
Any older person having sex with a 14 year old is taking advantage of them. A 14 year old does not have the capacity to consent to sex.
Of course, another 14 year old doesn't either, so if there are two younger people having sex then no one is in the wrong.

Claims that are presented without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
Your claim that women have mentally matured by age 17 is therefore bullshit.

You post this like girls don't get taken advantage of past the age of 18. Half of the rape laws not age related show that apparently it's about as easy to take advantage of a 30 year old as a 15 year old. Hell if they are not that means they have had the experiences of being used to know better

I don't care about convincing some hag fetishists on an anime image board. Enjoy your dusty eggs because you're concerned about taking advantage of women lmao

Must be a sad existence to doubt your own virtue.

>the girl I'm now courting when she is 14
>implying she isn't yet
ok then I'm right
FUCKIN' DISGUSTING PEDO
if I were her father I'd break your back, so you wouldn't be able anymore to impregnate any teen with your twisted mentally ill genes.
go have an healthy discussion with a therapist before doing damages to other people. we don't need more adults mentally screwed bc some pervert groomed and fucked them in their early teens.
also: fbi.gov

>I don't care about convincing some hag fetishists on an anime image board. Enjoy your dusty eggs because you're concerned about taking advantage of women lmao
>Must be a sad existence to doubt your own virtue.
Ad hominem and saltiness.
Typical loser response of "hurr durr this isn't an argument I'm just fucking around".
You're attempting to cover up the fact that you have no proof of early teenage women being mentally mature and able to make the decision to get married.

>FUCKIN' DISGUSTING PEDO
She is pubescent.
>if I were her father I'd break your back
Our fathers are close friends, they planned for us to marry before she was born.
>groomed
Meaningless buzzword. It's okay, I'm sure you will find some blown out roastie who is ready to settle down in her early 30s lmao

>billions of women had children well before their 20s up until the last century.
>suddenly they're deemed undeveloped until reaching halftime in their fertile years.
really makes you think

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>17
>early teenage
The age of reason is around 7. If you can't comprehend the contract of marriage and consent to it by your pubescence, you aren't smart enough to ever breed.

Enjoy your Arbys sandwich, with extra mayo.

>She is pubescent.
How old is this CHILD that you're dating?
When did you start dating this CHILD and how old are you?
Are you sexually attracted to this CHILD?

>The age of reason is around 7. If you can't comprehend the contract of marriage and consent to it by your pubescence, you aren't smart enough to ever breed.
Sex with a 14 year old is rape. Children are not capable of consenting to sex. The human brain is fully developed by age 23-25.
You are grooming a child. This is highly illegal and disgusting behavior, and if I knew you personally I would report you to the police.

I'm very sad that you, but mostly that poor child, were born in that shithole country of yours that allows this.
It's not strange that it's 3rd or 4th world.
I pray for that girl.
Stay in your country, you sick fuck. In western countries we had and still have many big problems, but at least we don't allow this fucking nauseating shit.

Man lucky you, i kinda want a younger qt so we Can grow up together(and then marry her once shes ready, id never fug her unless were married) qt , how old are ya , im 18 so maybe im worrying too early?

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>CHILD
A child is a human between the stages of birth and puberty, by definition, a pubescent human is not a child. I'm not "dating" anyone, I do not engage in this degenerate modernist practice. I am courting my potential future wife and have been for over a year. I am in my early 20s. I don't think I'll have a problem breeding with my wife, I am a healthy male.
>Sex with a 14 year old is rape
Consensual sex with your wife is not rape.
>Children are not capable of consenting to sex
I agree. Good thing pubescent humans are not children.
>The human brain is fully developed by age 23-25.
The male brain is, but only because it is more complex.
>You are grooming a child
I had little contact with her when she was prepubescent. "Grooming" is a meaningless buzzword used by normalfags, our clans are only engaging in respectable planning to ensure the strength of our bloodlines.
>This is highly illegal and disgusting behavior
I'm sorry your feelings are hurt, but this is 100% legal.
We live in the US. The AoC is even lower in Europe than the 16 in the US.

I can't imagine how you'd find a bride that young without connections. Your best bet is probably finding a virtuous woman that is 16+. Go to church, boy.

Is it scarring because people around you tell it is or because it inherently is?

>The male brain is, but only because it is more complex.
You still never proved that the female brain matures first.
You're full of shit you pedophilic - sorry, HEBEPHILIC - fuck.

also
>A child is a human between the stages of birth and puberty, by definition, a pubescent human is not a child.
A 14 YEAR OLD IS A CHILD.

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>Consensual sex with your wife is not rape.
Yes, and 14 year olds can't consent.

>A 14 YEAR OLD IS A CHILD.
Sorry, you're wrong. I adhere to the primordial truth. I observe and obey the biological reality of the universe around me.

Church is dead(well spiritually) in this country sadly, France is leading in degenerate behaviour, even arab grills are being corrupted by feminism and shit its insane, sometimes i wounder if ill even get the type of wife i want

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It's not sudden, follow the lines

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Because we're retarded.
>"Weve been together two years! True love!"
>divorce at 30 and spend the rest of your life being bitter and alone.

>people around you tell it is
other people can't give you PTSD by telling you that you have it, you moron

>Yes, and 14 year olds can't consent.
The entirety of human history and even the modern day laws disagree with you. I can marry a 14 year old and legally consummate our marriage.

>Sorry, you're wrong.
What makes me wrong?
A 14 year old is below the legal age of majority and therefore a child. Their brain is undeveloped.

>We live in the US
you perfectly understood the values about human dignity, so.
don't worry, someone will soon take care of this shit, your 'clan' and the others communities that use to behave this way on US soil can't go ahead like this forever. the wind is changing. you've much, much to learn.

>I can marry a 14 year old and legally consummate our marriage.
In what shithole country?

>The entirety of human history and even the modern day laws disagree with you.
There are a couple European countries that have ages of consent lower than 15. Legal != acceptable.
History is a shit argument, since women used to regularly die in childbirth back when they got married young. Divorce was illegal and spousal rape was both legal and common.

Almost no one marries this young. Just a few high school lover birds. ~5% of the students.