You will never be a neurosurgeon

>actually doesnt understand that a big shot lawyer can have his own practice

beaner detec
I'm just surprised you didn't mention engineer aswell kek

I don't know, maybe internal medicine? whatever I don't hate and will get me a job in a city

I don't even live in the US lmao
Keep coping you absolute piece of trash.

>valuable degree
Have fun realizing that degrees don't hold much value anymore and that there are thousands of more competent and capable individuals vying for the same job as you.

yeah, because beaners are exclusively american

t. Subway franchise holder

>b-b-but muh excuses I can't succeed because I'm dumb so why even try waaah
How pathetic. Thankfully I'm not as jaded and self-pitying as you.
There aren't many of them outside of north America, brainlet.

>There aren't many of them outside of north America, brainlet.
true. you exposed me

I work as an orthopaedic surgeon, it's alright. Everyone else in the hospital thinks we are retards though but the work is fun and isn't too intense most of the time.

Doesn't nearly everyone hate internal/general medicine where you are? It's usually the worst job in any hospital.

shit, really? I haven't been able to speak to many internists, I'm not on rotations yet. maybe I'll go family medicine, but that seems like a job where everyone hates you. I don't know.

what is life like for you as a surgeon? aren't you always banging women lol

>ywn big shot lawyer
literally attending a top law school

I didn't do well in high school. Ended up doing a year in community college before being able to transfer to the school I actually wanted to go to. Then I studied for the LSAT and did well. High school GPA never stopped me.

>>>you will never be a neurosurgeon
>>>you will never be a big shot lawyer
Talk about self-pitying. At any rate, you will eventually realize how futile it is striving for success with your "valuable degree", you overeducated patty-flipper.

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this is larp

no firm paying on cravath scale does crim defense outside of white collar

>200k in NYC when you have a JD sounds pretty low either way

lol if only you knew how bad things really were.

The only people who can command that salary out of law school graduated from either a Top 20 or at the top of their class. Most people with JDs make 60-80k doing shit tier work.

No senpai I'm 27 and KHV but I have noticed ever since I graduated I've got more attention from women. Aiming for wizardy at this point.

The only reason general medicine is considered a shit job is because it's a dumping ground for the shit that can't be discharged from A+E but don't really have any real problems, and then there are some medical specialities like Gastro or Cardiology or Resp who have really acute life threatening shit come through the door all the time, I don't know why anyone would want to deal with that on a daily basis. It's like people who are General/GI surgeons having to operate all throughout the night when any appendix/obstruction etc. comes in. For me I don't even have to get out of bed unless it's a compartment syndrome or a nec fasc, even some open fractures can now be left overnight (although I am usually awake making sure my juniors don't fuck everything up overnight instead).

Family medicine is American for GP right? I know people who go into it because the lifestyle is better than hospital medicine but they have their own specific shit that they have to deal with which in my opinion is so much more tedious than anything a hospital doctor has to deal with. Even psychiatry would be preferred to GP for me.

>overeducated
Is this supposed to be an insult?
Lmao. "you know too many things". You sound like a coping brainlet or a Jow Forumstard who can't cope with the data that shows conservative values are correlated with low IQ and a lack of education.

"you know too many things" for a patty-flipper, KEK. I'll leave you alone now, as you apparently can't handle having your delusions challenged on the internet.

>I work as an orthopaedic surgeon
>Everyone else in the hospital thinks we are retards
Huh?

>"you know too many things" for a patty-flipper,
How can anyone know too many things?
Also, I think you have me confused for the other poster.

I kinda understand how you feel OP, but at the same time you have to ask why do you really want to be those things? Would you really be passionate about them? Or do you just want to be seen as valuable in the eyes of society, make your family proud of you, and stack up compared to your peers?

Ask yourself, if you didn't feel compelled to overachieve in high school, what makes you think you genuinely want to torture yourself going through law or medical school? The types of people who typically go into those fields are competitive Type A personalities and quite often their parents have been encouraging them to go that direction for years. It's okay to not be the model citizen. You don't need to do something that earns you some nebulous reverence from society in order to be a valuable person. But we are often instilled with this notion that if we are not super successful (success defined in a very limited way) then we are worthless.

Don't let some internalized bullshit idea of what you're expected to be by other people define you and make you feel like a loser when you don't live up to it. You'll thank yourself later.

that's funny. surgeons in the US tend to be chads. good luck trying to escape them locking you down

that sounds like a pretty fun lifestyle. is surgery a pretty competitive specialty to get into in your country?

yes, family med is an American GP. it seems to be a lot more tedious, as you said. many americans generally seem skeptical of their primary care docs and want to bypass them, if possible, for a specialist. I couldn't do psych though. way too much BS from patients, at least from what I've seen in some of my mentally ill friends

I'm a surgeon. As far as jobs go, it's a pretty fun one but it's not going to make you happy or that fulfilled. It's still manual labour when you think about it.

People in those professions report being very unhappy and lawyers have a very high rate of suicide. My dad was a doctor and he told me not to go into medicine.

I guarantee you there is a lawyer in NY out there working 14 hour days wishing he could just be a NEET who watches anime and eats pizza all day.

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After reflecting upon your post, my conclusion is that I want those things because I have a massive ego and I want to feel like I've achieved something impressive. Also, I like money, and I find science to be interesting (though this only applies to medicine regarding the OP post).
Grass is always greener etc. I've been a neet, it's been fun, and now I'm working towards a goal and it feels good too.

Orthopaedic surgeons have a stereotype of being rugby playing idiots who don't know anything about bones and can't use any finesse because we use hammers and drills during our operations. It's true to some extent but I'll say this even though it's worth nothing, the average surgeons know way more about medicine than the average medic knows about surgery. If something developed HAP and AKI on my ward I can at least treat it and the medics give you shit if you ask for their help, if a patient falls on a medical ward and injuries themself in any way at all suddenly it becomes my problem.

I think they assume I'm a normalfag like them and I don't intend to let them think otherwise, only my three actual friends on the training programme know what I'm like and they don't care so no worries. Surgery in any speciality is still competitive to get into, I think ophthalmology and plastics are most competitive, orthopaedics and general surgery are towards the less competitive end, but I think it's still massively competitive compared to GP/psych/general med which are undersubscribed nationally.

GPs have a hard time because they are much more time pressured and resource deficient than hospital doctors. I wouldn't be able to do my job without bloods and XRs but GPs have to. The spectrum of what comes through is also too wide, the average complaint is bullshit that you can deal with but every once in a while someone will come in with something serious and if you miss it everyone turns up their nose at you goes "well the GP should have spotted that, what an idiot" without understanding the situation that they are in. It's not an easy job. As for psych, I did 4 months of it as a junior and thought I'd hate it but it wasn't so bad, kind of hard since it involves a lot of communication and guesswork as far as treatments go but it's not that physically demanding like hospital medicine is.

>20 hour, high intensity, high liability shifts
>boring, soul crushing paper work for hours every day
yikes..

I should also add that it feels kind of bland and draining being never presented with a challenge, which is contradictory because actually facing challenge itself is unpleasant until you manage to overcome it (or give up). Don't know if that makes sense.

>You will never be a trust fund baby
I met a guy that's my age this past month and his mom's side of the family owns banks and sets up trust funds for their family members
>yfw he was in the 33% tax bracket last year from his trust alone
I don't think I've been more jealous of someone I've met in person in a long time

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sister is a big shot lawyer (top 5 law school top 5 firm) and it's actually pretty cuck-tier, she works 9 to 9 most days and gets called in without notice on saturdays and sundays, she lives in a tiny-ass apartment in a large kiked-out american east coast city

he's really not wrong guys, it's not like the 80s
lawyers are overworked and underpaid and doctors literally stick their hands in shit, piss, and mucus for 12 hours a day and then get sued for it or ass-blasted by the administration for paperwork issues

it's just money man, what would you do if you had his money, buy a couple cars and a couple houses? sit on your ass and not work?

you're still both humans caught in this strange existence and if you don't deal with that spiritually / philosophically / emotionally, money won't change anything and could even make you feel worse cuz then you won't even have the "if i were rich i would feel better" escapist fantasy that drives 99% of our society's wage cuckery

Fuck off
If I had a trust fund that gave me $200k a year, I wouldn't have to worry about whether I'll be able to pay my bills this month; wouldn't have to worry about student loan debt; and wouldn't have to worry about juggling my work, school, and social lives. This would eliminate a tremendous amount of stress from my life and maybe I'd still be enrolled in college because I wouldn't be depressed.

ok sorry man no need to be rude, i agree with your points

Investment banking is better
You work like a slave, in the literal sense not the meme sense, during three years. After that if you're competent you become part of the big boys club and get to fuck the entire world in the ass with no lube.

I hate that in my opinion, underachieved at school and didn't go to university, it's one of my biggest regrets in life.

I'm not smart by a long shot but I was heavily and still am addicted to the Internet, used to rush home and shitpost on /b/ more concerned to see if Jessie Slaughter had an hero'd or if that whore who tried to scam /b/ out of tits or gtfo had been suffering enough, now I am 25 and have nothing.

That sucks, I am addicted to the internet but was at least able to do my homework. It is truly a sick addiction though that needs to be talked about more.

Literally steals all your waking hours away and gives you ADD and an autistic sense of humor that alienates you from everyone who wants to talk about the office and big bang theory.

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>did well in school
>got my degree
>ugly and no social skills so no reason to live regardless
oh well lol

>>you will never
not with that attitude user, I bet you are younger than 25, never too late to pursue your passion.

fuck man, that picture hit me hard. i always think about it but whenever i see it writting down it hurts...

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It's a bit too late for med school now. But I'm going into STEM, maybe do some data science meme shit or get into finance if I'm good enough.

>too late for med school?
how old are you?

22
Yes I COULD do it, but I'd start working during my early thirties.

This.

I had dreams too, big dreams.

I wanted to be akin to Napoleon, Washington, or Julius Caesar. But I'll never be that. I'll never etch my mark forever in a civilization's history. Not for money, but for pride, for eternal glory. To have the prestige of being the most important man in your civilization, to be a founder, a conqueror. To have statues erected in your memory and have children 1,000 years from now learning about my heroic past. I would have wanted to to somehow do that, accomplish grand things. But I don't have the talent, the motivation. I'm 20. Napoleon wasn't a recluse, asocial fuck at 20. I'll never be this kind of man.

Why should I keep giving a fuck about life if I'll die with no accomplishment?
How can a man live knowing that as soon as all his relatives die, he'll be completely forgotten?
I'll be like my great-great-granparents. Just another fucking name on a tombstone. It pains me.

Uh, 21-22 is literally the normal age to go to med school

I don't have a BSc

I will start working in my late 30s as a surgeon if everything goes according to plan.
o well, its your life.

Do you have any bachelor's degree?
You could become a clinical pharmacist
I've heard of people with English degrees becoming pharmacists

>tfw you'll never be a coroner
>tfw you will never say the phrase to a detective
>judging by the exit wound the shot was fired from an elevated position, most likely using a tripod
My dream came with me and dies with me user.

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Dentist here trying to get into OMF. I am literally a tradie

Iktfb, I have an easy, cushy job that I absolutely loathe because I know it's not at all important or special.

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I mean I've already started a degree, I have to make a decision at some point, can't keep pissing time away.
No I only have a high school degree. Pharmacy doesn't interest me.

Having lofty responsibilities and the lives of others in your hands is not worth it. Not comfy.