Sociopath AMA

I am a sociopath. I believe us and psycopaths get a pretty bad rep. Ask me anything you want, it can also be personal about my life. But no personal information.

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Hey man I'm a sociopath/psychopath too, I'm not constrained by morality at all and feel no empathy

Thanks for sharing but that doesn't add anything to the thread. And also being a psychopath is not the same as being a sociopath.

Do we have any hope of landing any relationships? Im scared of trying because I feel I wont be able to feel empathy towards my wife.

Depends on how much of a sociopath you are. I have a hard time mantaining relationships since I am apparently unable to get close with/to someone unless I want to use them for something. But I'd say that if you care about relationships and love, and therefore you see a point in them. You have a chance of completely "recovering" or "reversing" your sociopathy or traits of it.

I dislike people like you. I know you can't really do anything about your mindset or character whatever. Fuck people like you though who continuously lie. Lie about being in love, lie about caring, lie about wanting to be together forever.

I'll bite, how do you feel as a sociopath you're treated unfairly, or get a bad rep?

Yeah but arent you technically using your partner for that sweet Oxy rush?

Hey man I am a sociopath not a psycopath. I will MILDLY avoid hurting people when reaching my goals or expressing myself or just overall functioning as well as perfoming my tasks or duties. I also lie whenever I need to. Sometimes it's just better to present reality in such a set of words that people can be comfortable with whatever outcome. Being careful with words and body language are my key points in softening people's reactions to what I say or how I say it or what I need to get from them. Once you get really good at it you don't really need to hurt or harm people, as well as lying. But yeah, whenever I need to, I lie. But in my honest answer, I try not to hurt other people in pursuit of my goals. But if there is no easier scenario. I will do it.

I feel like since movies tend to criminalize the idea of a sociopath. "Oh he must be a fucking killer murderer kidnapper that thinks they are not bound by any laws". While there is some truth that we don't feel remorse nor empathy. People with extreme psycopathy "disorders" will act like that. Most people like me will just try to lay low and never "reveal" my actual "sociopathy" since I believe nothing can ever come from it. Since I am telling that fact to another person, since I have had to become really good at reading and understanding people, as well as their mindsets, mentalities, reactions and such, I always think "Okay, this person can react like this or this or this if I explain that I am what could be called a sociopath" and I also think if the "benefits" of revealing myself to that person outweighs the benefits that I would get from keeping that person around for further use. Almost 100% of the time the latter wins.

(Same poster, OP, just forgot to add this) It's not that harmful to other people when you know how to keep your actions and comments on a certain spectrum that could pass as "normal" while using people to your advantage without hurting them most of the time. It's really not that bad.

You have any passions? Like wanting to create a masterpiece of art like a movie? Maybe write a book that lots of people enjoy. Become really good at a certain skill or talent. Invent something amazing. Become a great entertainer? Do you want to do something in this world that will make you stand out and not forgotten or do you not care? What really are your goals? Happy family?

Then I would recommend to just have more short-term partners instead of having a long lasting relationship with one person? It seems like the emotional burden of the long lasting relationship outweighs the first option.

What's the cheapest amount of money someone could offer you to suck their dick?

Well I just wanted to say hey, whatever

>I am a sociopath
>us psychopaths
Squashed an ant today did ya billy?

Hilariously enough, I want to become a psychologist, I am fascinated with the human mind and how it reacts in particular situations with the most subtles of queues or details or restrictions. I have always loved it and been fascinated by it. I also write novels, draw, play various instruments, work out (My goal is to be on bodybuilding-tier level, and am slowly reaching it), speak a couple of languages. And study sociology. My goal is to be successfull and respected as anything I desire to achieve. I am a really smart and intelligente person so I have lately been trying out to see what areas I have the most difficulty on and slowly overcome personal burdens in order to become the best version of me possible. I have no short answer for this. A family with a smart woman would be nice and a good labor position is almost guaranteed in my future. I also love directing.

I'm diagnosed with ASPD and if you were an actual sociopath you wouldn't make a post on r9k about it, just letting you know.

That's a fancy way to say you don't work for a living and your parents give you enough of an allowance to have hobbies.

>Assuming all sociopaths share same traits
A true intellectual right here

I'm not only attracted to women. I also like men since what I pay attention to the most is that person's character and mental capability. So there is no real ammount I'd say. But it also depends on the dick. So, sorry, no real answer.

It's an anonymous board and I'm interested in some of the things people might wonder about people with characteristics or "conditions" like mine. So I just wanted to make a thread for an open conversation about how it "feels" to be like me and what people might want to know. If you don't like it or feel threatened or feel like you need to prove something, move along.

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You didn't ask me what I do for a living or who I live with. Assume whatever you want

No problem! Thanks for stopping by

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Right! Just because we enter the same category that has the same basic traits does not at all mean or equate that we are all the same. We also have personalities and personal characteristics that define and separate us. Thanks for making that post, nice user.

Dumbass.

Very original.

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What childhood trauma did you experience? Sociopaths are made not born. I myself am a diagnosed Psychopath, I try my best to be like everyone else.

empathy and morality are learned

you guys just had incompetent parents

no biggie

>I try my best to be like everyone else.
Good for you!
Yes I experienced some mild trauma. All of my classmates physically and mentally abused me for 7 years when I was a child. My mother is a clinically insane person. My father is a useless idiot and I'm the only smart person in my family. As a young man I had to experience depression, anxiety disorder, bipolar disorder. -all diagnosed by professionals, by the way. Clarifying just in case-. I overcame all of that and got better, and because of that I had to mature and "grow up" at an early age. That and the fact that I have always been highly emotionally intelligent in a stupid family had affected me. I can't really tell you exactly what lead to me being exactly how I am right now.

Why don't we just kill sociopaths as soon as they are identified?

this is unironically the final redpill. no sociopaths = moral government and corporations

Because most of us don't really do that much harm. We just look out for ourselves without regard of other people's feelings. We understand them and manipulate them when the time comes to use people to our advantage. Some people choose to hurt others, I don't whenever possible. I'm not a bad person.

Hell yeah man. They aren't even human. They don't process human emotion.

Haha I appreciate the comment, user. Though I believe it's a "deeper" matter than that. Although not so important to think and debate about it for hours, I don't think it's as simple as you say it is.

>We don't do much harm
>We manipulate people in our advantage

Alright makes sense

>i dont hurt people
>We just look out for ourselves without regard of other people's feelings.
>We understand them and manipulate them when the time comes to use people to our advantage.
>I'm not a bad person.
Gold.

altough you did prove you are in fact a sociopath in a twisted way

What do you even think you're talking about? We do process it. And we understand it. We just don't participate in it in a personal way. So we just see feelings as tools people give us to use them for our advantage.

it simply is. or do you think morality is coded in your dna ? it isnt, you didnt learn it. deal with it user. seriously

If you're scared of anything you're not a sociopath or pyschopath.

see ? these guys deserve to be gas. its like a robot saying he feels emotions but in reality he just sees a representation

>We do process it
>We just dont participate in it

So are you an actual sociopath or just an edgy 13 year old?

in summary, would you say sociopaths have trouble with empathy, but still tend to have a subjective and personal set or morals or guidelines they live by?

An actual sociopath would never do this. They simply wouldn't care about other peoples questions, or take the time out of their day to do something like this. Fuck off faggot.

>We just look out for ourselves without regard of other people's feelings.
damn wish i could do that better i just want to mind my own business without giving a fuck about others but im to much of a pussy and even feel threatened by someone that looks slightly intimidating or a group of people with bad reputation i still don't give a shit and dont want to give a shit about people i don't know though

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Is stirner your favorite philosopher?

Yeah it might seem confusing without any furhter explanation haha, my apologies. What I mean is; some of the time, whenever possible. I try not to actively harm other people when I am using them. Really simple example: A woman I know has a good body, and I want to have her, say she is the emotional type, I just find a way (it's really not hard when you put aside morality) to get her to feel like she has a bond with me so I can get what I want, and when I'm done I most likely lose interest in her and just let her go gently without necessarily hurting her. It would just be a burden, so I just use some variation of ' it's not you, it's me" and she leaves thinking I was a gentleman. It's the same process with most human interactions I get something out of. So eventually you get really good at manipulating the process.

>So are you an actual sociopath or just an edgy 13 year old?
An actual sociopath wouldn't make this thread, so that kinda narrows it down.

There's a difference between not caring what people think and feeling empathy for people you like

Wow, you seem so brave and cool. No one really understands you. it must be sooooooo suffering.

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Yeah that doesn't sound like what a bad person would do

Just admit my guy you're a piece of shit

you are literal vermin scum and you better hope nobody ever figures you out because literally anybody would be for getting rid of you. there will be no side whatsoever that will back you up

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I AM NOT A BAD PERSON

Itt ask an Edgy 16 year old anything

The thing is, I don't hurt people in the process. Or at least I try to. It's too much of a problem to accidentally hurt people that are in touch with other people I talk to and am mid-process of obtaining the thing I came in contact with them in the first place! It's just simple decision-making.

kek

very very original

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THINK OTHER HUMANS ARE WEAK FOR SHOWING EMPATHY

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>very original

you are sad and pathetic and i hope one day we will exterminate all of you

i hope you die in your sleep tonight op

What a wonderful question!
Yes I'd say sociopaths either really struggle with empathy or have a lack of it alltogether. And with that last part I'd say every sociopath/psycopath has their personal rules that work for them. Some choose to step on other people exclusively when going after what they desire. Some choose to be safer and try to make the loss of connection with people(after you have gotten what you wanted from them) seem more humane and normal so that you save yourself from the risk of that person spreading rumors or toxic comments about you, therefore affecting your current contacts or ""relationships"" you may have with other people you are trying to get something off of. Some aspects are dictated by the person themselves. If you are not satisfied by my answer, let me know.

will OP ever recover ???

spawn of satan

they are not spreading rumors or toxic comments you absolute buffoon. you CONSCIOUSLY manipulate people and that is worse than any brawler or gangster guy. people hate this and once they figure you out they start spreading "toxic rumors"

once again you proove to everybody how much of a vermin you are by not realizing this

Good catch, user

very original post

you sound more autistic desu
or just depressed with emotional suppression

do u consider yourself to have good social skills/charisma? are you impulsive/violent? do you feel anxiety/stress/depression?

guys like this in leading positions is what drives this world to the brink of extinction.

imagine we killed all of them. everybody in the government and business a moral man.

realize how many there are in key positions now ?

No

this post is particularly original

I didn't say nor imply that. I got over all of those issues and became a more functional person without those burdens. Don't be mean.

Imagine a world where nobody beats children. Imagine need a world where nobody manipulates. Imagine a world where people don't just yell random insults at the innocent for doing nothing.

Explain to me what drives you to say such things to a stranger on the internet based solely on the information you have of me. Please, I want to know.

>Don't be mean

THIS GUY IS DEFINITELY A SOCIOPATH GUYS!

I'm good enough so they don't figure it out. The only one close was my mother.

Why the fuck do you care so much? Thought you're a sociopath.

>skills/charisma?
Yes, although I'm not naturally like that, I can be like that for as long as I want to, in any way I need to, for any purpose.
impulsive/violent?
No, I tend to plan ahead and think things over in my head in order to go over what could happen in any given situation and understand the people I'm dealing with in order to come up with a tailored way to get what I want from that person
anxiety/stress/depression?
No. I'm a pretty relaxed person.

you wouldnt be able to understand it anyway man. being subhuman trash is normal to you. you think empathy is weakness ? you think not manipulating people is weakness ? its strength you moron. everybody knows how easy it is to use somebody. but they choose not to. your parents failed hard. nobody else is to blame for this. not even you.

I just don't know why you think that "all of us" should be exterminated. Stop using things I say as ways to "blow the case open" and "unmask" me. People with an IQ over 50 see people like you coming over a mile away. You're predictable and annoying. If you're not going to answer my simple question I'm just going to ignore you.

basically en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Rule

>OP takes empathy quotient test
>scores low
>"I'm a sociopath!"
ASPD is the diagnosis of sociopathy iirc. You need to look at what ASPD entails. Violence, anger, and manipulativeness are just a few qualities of someone with genuine ASPD

basically quit being an edgy teenager. low empathy does not equal sociopathy. in fact it's probably more representative of autism, not memeing

I'm not the guy who said you should be exterminated, man. Am I that predictable? >:^]

ABANDON THIS THREAD

THERES NO USE IN TRYING TO TELL SOMEONE WITHOUT EMPATHY WHY NOT HAVING EMPATHY IS BAD BECAUSE YOU NEED TO HAVE EMPATHY TO GET THAT

I got a question, Why do you keep making this thread you aren't speical 1-2% of population, If you are one at lot of fucktards self dianose.

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Oh shit dude that's actually a really good point

I don't really know if I think that empathy is weakness. The only way I can see it is as a tool, given the fact that I'm not an empathic person in any way, shape or form. To be honest I'm trying to learn how to be more empathic and relate to people's feelings and emotions, rather than seeing them on a board of choices to grab and use to get a better hold of that person as a tool or gadget to further my own goals. I am trying, user. Thank you for participating in the thread.

Whst do you think of his philosophy?

>THERES NO USE IN TRYING TO TELL SOMEONE WITHOUT EMPATHY WHY NOT HAVING EMPATHY IS BAD
The thread was never about that. It's about questions people could have for someone in my condition.

>seeing them on a board of choices to grab and use to get a better hold of that person as a tool or gadget to further my own goals.
once again i see a child that never got taught humility

im out, take this advice

>Why do you keep making this thread
First time making a thread like this on any chan board
>you aren't speical 1-2% of population, If you are one at lot of fucktards self dianose.
I hate self diagnosers.

what i'm getting at is basically this:
do you think having a subjective sense of right and wrong necessarily requires one to have empathy as well?


can a sociopath have a sense of right and wrong or are they mutually exclusive?

>can a sociopath have a sense of right and wrong or are they mutually exclusive?
I think they are mutually exclusive but there are cases where psycopaths/sociopaths do have a slight sense of right and wrong but do not obey or work by it, rather they work around it or just ignore it. Not quite sure since it's not my case.

for as much as i hate this RP bullshit because i know by the poll we had that at least 40+% of this board is 18 or younger, daily reminder that 1% (1/100) of the population is Psychopaths and that 4% (1/25) are Sociopaths

so, yes, there is a rather childish reputation around it all, but most people barely even exist at all

have you been tested for autism? not insulting, your responses just dont point towards sociopathy.
> Yes, although I'm not naturally like that, I can be like that for as long as I want to, in any way I need to, for any purpose.
> No, I tend to plan ahead and think things over in my head in order

these are more reminiscent of high functioning autistic traits than they are for psychopathy. Psychopaths literally have a smaller amygdala, diminished fear & anxiety response and because of this being charisma comes very naturally to them, they don't think or plan in advance, they just do. that's the whole thing about psychopathy, they don't plan or 'coldly calculate in advance' etc, they just know these things. read dutton or hare.

I read through all your responses and you just seem to have more of a autism/narcissistic vibe to them, or maybe just childhood trauma/depression leading to low ability to empathize. Low empathy+cold calculating logical =/= psycopath; the more telltale traits are lack of stress response, impulsivity, pervasive boredom and natural social ability as a result of lack of fear; all these are associated with psychopathic brain structure which is diminished amygdala function.

I'm telling you all this because there's a lot of autists who think they're psychopathic and they end up living a shitty life in the long run because that's not who they are

I see! Man I would love to know you in real life to talk about these subjects. Also, either way psycopathy, sociopathy, autism, whatever. I'm trying to be more empathic and warm to people. Let's hope I can change some aspects and become an objectively better person, regardless of what goes on in my tiny brain, haha

No way would someone with autism be posting on this board.

> I'm trying to be more empathic and warm to people.

the very fact that you said this (assuming that you're genuinely trying to) makes me think that its a case of emotional repression and not genuine psychopathy/ lack of conscience. if not, why would you want to be more empathic and warm to people, if empathy did not make you feel better? know what im saying?
if you answer something like: 'i want to try to be more empathic so i can learn to manipulate people better' then that goes against your goal of trying to be an 'objectively better person', since what is your motivation for being 'objectively better' if you're actually a sociopath (whose motivations should only be: how can get money/power/sex/whatever it is)? why would a sociopath even care to be 'objectively better'? if you don't have a conscience, then it won't even make sense why you would want to be objectively better, unless you want to trick people to obtain some kind of benefit. But there is no benefit to be gained here, except ego-related ones.

this is a good thing, because it means you're not actually a sociopath and you have the capacity to develop genuine empathy and love for people. please do some self reflection and dont waste your life. psychopaths/sociopaths whatever are genuinely shitty people. go read about carl panzram. that's really a case of no empathy.

I dont kno if this was meant to be as funny as it was

>Sociopath AMA
Narcissist roleplayer detected

You aren't convincing my man. You are trying way too hard to sound like a sociopath. If you really were a sociopath you probably wouldn't be posting on r9k alone on a saturday night. These are robot hours.

You probably have very few friends in reality and have at least mild autism. You're confusing your lack of emotional intelligence with a sociopathic lack of empathy.

It's actually really normal to see narcissistic robots. They are almost always skinnyfat neets who see themselves this way. They almost always imagine themselves being similar to characters from movies despite the fact that they have none of the same qualities. Patrick Bateman is usually the favorite for these types.

You are the male version of pic related.

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yea this, mild autism with narc/depression combo
he's one of us tho lets help him?