I can't believe I'm nearly 24 and still looking for a mate...

I've literally fucking given up on it. If I could turn gay I just would, go sell all my shit hook up with early 20s guys get AIDS then off myself by jumping in front of the train.
So far only the feminine traps make my cock hard, apparently gay is not really a choice based on my experience. Like regular straight guy to full-blown fag with porn and/or drugs doesn't work.

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Holy shit you are stupid. It's very rare that couples who get together at 18 have the relationship last.

Most people that I personally know in both countries that I lived in (and that's upwards of 80% of them) are married to someone whom they've met well before 23; which is coincidentally the current median age of Jow Forums and reddit.
Meaning if you shitpost here above that age it could even be 10 times more likely you are a mentally ill adult virgin who will rot alone than any other person of 23-24 randomly picked from the street within the same country and area of it that you live in right now.
Like I said before. I can afford to buy a 1 bedroom apartment in a large city full with gay people and would be 100% willingly go fullfag if it was even remotely possible just to feel genuinely wanted temporarily and get sex for free.

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18 and 23 are a world of difference when it comes to relationships.

I had friends who had gfs when they were 10-11 years old and they are pretty much always in relationships why couldn't i be a fucking chad:(

I was just thinking of a girl I dated when I was younger. It's rather unfair to get stuck with a girl just because you happened to have met her before another one. Can you really say you like her that much just because of a lack of other options ? Sure I thought it in reverse that it wouldn't have been fair for her why would she have stuck around could I really say she liked me just from a lack of not choosing someone else, but after thinking about it, it works both ways. I don't see why I'd want to settle with her short of just a lack of options even though I'd bail as soon as I met someone I liked better.

Don't post lies, you worthless piece of shit. Those are the relationships most likely to last, both virgin and married young. Chances of marriage only go down from there.

Your reading comprehension needs some work desu.
The males that I know who are married right now in their 30's met their wives at max 23 or under. Generally the girl was 17 to 19. This is a very repetitive pattern you will also find in other countries despite all the shit that's being fed to you through the net that college is about discovering oneself that's where you get to the orgies and men are all like wine they are their best older around 40.
We are all fucked and broken by 45 that's what the midlife crysis is all about to realize you were a failure coping with all the shit you've been doing while not living the way you wanted to and you are about to die pretty soon too and there's nothing you can do about this situation anymore.
Wherever I lived in the past 15 years people started having sex at 13 and by 15 they'd be going out drinking illegally, getting tattoos without permission by lying about their age, etc.
This ""woe is meinselv where aret thou mein love"" is a phase in highschool that most people get over with pretty damned quick. Except for internet addicted introverted creepy basket case isolated pervs aka the late bloomers who aren't like the metaphors since there are some flowers that never-ever open up just rot away on the stem of the plant.
You know most countries don't require you to have a college degree for work, lots of highschools out there that give out the basic education by 16, that's when you graduate then learn a trade in max 3 years and that's wtf you'll be doing for the rest of your life.
12 years of school and 5 years of college is pretty rare these days due to rent as well as university having changed their profile to literal rackets. That's a luxury for rich people sending their spoiled brats to become a medic or a lawyer.
90% of the men at 23 are with an average job and with a longterm partner. You get a skewed idea of what's ""normal"" when all of your daily social interactions come from basement dwellers online.

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I'm sorry, but this is too blackpilled for me. How can you not make any lasting friendships into the age of 36?

I think my problem is that I want a femanon, but they're very rare in my country and the ones I do find end up breaking my heart after 3 or 4 months. My looks aren't bad either since people tell me I look 18 and my finances are the top 1% of my age group thanks to Bitcoin. My greatest flaw is that I sit at home all day and hate socializing with normies. I think I should hire a life coach or something, but they probably force to go after normie girls which are extemelly intimidating to me.

Why are you lying, stupid incel? Marriages made young are much more likely to fail.

You don't know jack shit of the world outside your basement. It sounds like you live in West Bumfuck, Virginia. The average age for getting married is around 30, not 23. Many people go to university or other forms of training. Very few are settled down at 23.

Well that's pretty much it. That's what most people do. Settle for whoever they bump into within their vicinity.
>If the sex works out it will be a long term relationship despite both of them having clashing personalities.
>If the sex sucks they will split up even if they have an otherwise harmonious personality combination.
So forget all the psychological theories. If you want a partner you have to look for someone who is also looking for someone and then give her the best dickening you are able to.
Keep in mind you have to settle for her looks too, what you can get is what you can get where you can get.
But fucking spergs online always want to discuss politics, history, technology with wamen who aren't into those things 99% of the cases. Impress with personality, something that's ephemeral and subjective.
Not to mention they look at top model tier teen pornstars that you'd rarely see in the street so they are turned off by regular plain Janes.
The cheat code for this shit-swalloving games is that if you look like Chad then you can even show her pictures of your baby grinding factory and she'd still fuck you in the toilet on the first date.
But you aren't Chad, you ain't even the regular Brad. No man out there is a neet and a single virgin living parents at the age of 25, zero, none, nada, nichts, ziltch.
The 'normies' are the 99% majority. Jow Forumsfags and incels are more rare than the genuine exclusively homosexual men irl.

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not as bad as you think, that's the average now for most to start a relationship
get more worried when you near 30 and you haven't found one.

Another semantic genius.
>Guy is at 21-22-23.
>Guy meets girl when she's 17-18-19.
>They just fuck out of desperation.
>The sexors works out so they stick together out of convenience.
>This situation gets called publicly a ""long term relationship"".
>When the guy turns 30 he marries her.
So yes men generally marry at 30 to someone they've been living with for like 7 years.

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If you are a virgin at that age, better don't even fucking try. Your options will be atrocious.

Yes real men find themselves at 55 and sex with a woman under 45 is paedophilia.

>I can't believe I'm nearly 24 and still looking for a mate. I envy guys that found her at 18 and spent the next 6 years bonding. I might have a million, but I feel like a massive loser because of how much time I wasted.
Same thing here. I spent most of my youth as a shut-in focusing on my education and career.
>The males that I know who are married right now in their 30's met their wives at max 23 or under. Generally the girl was 17 to 19.
I am this age and currently realizing that I might have the last chance to get myself a 18 yo gf who isn't too fucked up yet (a five year difference is reasonable, anything beyond that is too much). I may actually good looking (the pretty boy type), and am starting what could become a food career in the financial industry, but of which most women will find attractive. But at the same time I am also quite autistic with women (which is currently being enhanced by my nofap flatline - I hope it ends soon so that I can enter the dating market). Also, I am mostly around men and women my own age or older (i.e. people who have already entered the workforce).
Does anyone have any idea where to find younger women? I have thought about joining Tinder for a lack of alternatives. If I don't find anyone date-worthy there, then maybe some girl who I can go drinking with and who can hook me up with one of her friends?

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unless you can get some youngens you are correct. Honestly each year after 20(ish) of a girls age things get worse and worse in terms of selection and quality. 30 is 100% ensured to be single moms and/or divorced women.

I am 36, do you what I can get now?
>unironically mentally ill single women at 35 no one wants to marry because of the aforementioned affliction they got
>28yo roasted fatties with tattoos and 10yo mentally disabled kid; generally she was dumped like 3 years ago
>hookers which is a lottery of its own kind needs skills to learn to deal with the shit you get with escorting even when it is legal
>crossdressing gay men telling you they are 22yo and skinny but are 32yo chubby irl
Suicide seems pretty /comfy/ imo.

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Go full creeper and prey on some 20 somethings in college?
It works sometimes...

How is focusing on education and career a bad thing?
I'm 21 and have a gf. We recently decided to break up soon. We've been on and off for a while so idk when we are actually breaking up but
I don't have any education and trying to get into college is fucking hard
At least I got a rich family that I can sponge off

Have you tried the public library? Seems fair game imo desu. Should be full with young and smart girls.

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church
no seriously

* if you look like Chad. Seems pretty good idea. Brb after trying it.
t. Brad

Get #metoo'd

I'm just saying what other choice you got? You will have a lot of drama with it but it's better drama than "Oh you have 2 kids...from two different dads..."

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I'm 23. I have been with my 18yo gf for a couple months now. She is the only person besides my father that I have any real attachment to. Finding a partner in life is a wonderful thing, but I know I will never be enough for this version of her in my head.

Different user but the second half of your post is on par with "just be yourself bro"

>Should be full with young and smart girls.

My public library is full of homeless blacks

I'm nearly 25 and exactly a year ago I was in the same position. And year before that the same.

I've missed out on so much that it doesn't even matter anymore. I'll never recover from this shit and even if somehow I find someone I'll still have this feeling that I've missed out and that she has experienced more.

Not to mention how girls expect some sort of relationship experience. Like they want to jump into a working relationship immediately. And I can't do that because I'd have to learn how it is to live with someone.

Though honestly I just dont' care anymore.

You will be in for a surprise if you ever get a 18 year old gf. You obviously have never had a gf since you think a girl who is still a kid for all but legal purposes would be good to be in a relationship with.

You are lying. At 36 there are plenty of good options. How old are you really, 20 right?

>How is focusing on education and career a bad thing?
>I'm 21 and have a gf. We recently decided to break up soon. We've been on and off for a while so idk when we are actually breaking up but
>I don't have any education and trying to get into college is fucking hard
>At least I got a rich family that I can sponge off
I am sorry to hear that user. Surely most of us have this dream of an innocent HS or uni romance blossoming into a relationship that will eventually lead to marriage.
But how did you manage not to go to college if your family is rich. My family is upper middle class and always put emphasis on my education. In fact, the put so much pressure on my that I am still a robot after finishing uni.
>Have you tried the public library? Seems fair game imo desu. Should be full with young and smart girls.
This is meme tier advice. Young girls are at the university library. I would feel like a retard going to the university library without actually studying. Also, the girls are focused on their work there and would only get off their work if they could talk to somebody they already know. I think I might have better chances hitting up a uni girl on Tinder desu.
>church
>no seriously
Thanks. I actually went to Latin mass this Sunday and it was mainly older people. There were like 2-3 guys in their 20s, and one couple that seemed to be my age. That was it. I had also hoped to find some girls there. The problem is that the people where I am living (in Europe) are traditionally Protestant (and those are mostly atheist anyways).

there's a ton of hot chicks at my library downtown but I'm certain they go there to study, not to have random guys hit on them

The only people that are not taken at ages 23+ are insane or fucked up in one way or another so that sort of relationship just can't last unless it's a nightmare for both sides.

They more than likely are taken already.

Where so you get your retarded worldview from? Are you 15? Or been a shut-in since 15?

No, I'm 24 and have actively looked for girls in many different areas. It's just conclusions I draw from having been on something like 100 dates over the past few years.

Nice try beta creep.

Do you live in bumfuck west virginia or something.

No, pretty large city in central Europe

>Nice try beta creep.
This. Kek Why should any girl enjoy being talked to and then immediately asked out by some stranger she doesn't even know or care about. This only works on the US with your weird small talk culture. Stop listening to PUA creeps. Must of these are lower class peasants anyways. Sleeping around is typically lower class behavior.

Don't worry about it, user.

I've been building a relationship for 3.5 years, and as much affection as I have for her, that time also allows for negative experiences to build (which do happen, even in good relationships). Also, it's depressing to think of the possibility that I our relationship may mostly be based on momentum and accumulated history at this point, rather than actual passion/love/romance.

It cuts both ways. Ultimately, you're happy or you're not, and the "fear of missing out" will strike you no matter who you're with. (pic related)

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>This only works on the US with your weird small talk culture
Absolutely agreed. This shit totally doesn't work in Europe unless it's a club environment and everyone is drunk like fuck. People are generally more reserved in Europe, especially smaller cities.

Virtually any and all the women who I have known who are in long term relationships met their other half by the time they were 22 at the latest. These relationships just run, and run and run - even when things get bleak and desperate (loss of income etc) I honestly think it's because the security of the relationship outweighs the unknown thrill of being with lots of other people.

Everytime you have a relationship end it makes the next relationship even more disposable due to losing the ability to form meaningful connections - "there'll always be another person out there for me" mentality.

Seriously, men need to get with a woman when she is between the ages of 18-22 and inexperienced. There's a 90% chance you'll be together for life.

Get with her when she's had loads of other guys and it just means you're just another disposable chump in a long line of chumps.

Just to add: I have a friend who is a 5/10 TOPS and his wife is probably an 8/10.
He met her when she was 17/18 in school and he was probably 21/22. She was a virgin when they met. She could EASILY find a better looking guy, but she never will because she loves him because that's all she has ever known.

They're in their 30s now.

>Everytime you have a relationship end it makes the next relationship even more disposable due to losing the ability to form meaningful connections - "there'll always be another person out there for me" mentality.
I agree but not with the reason. It's never about the "there's always another person for me" but it's about the fact that you simply get desentisized to it and tired of it AND if you're used to being alone then it won't feel like such a loss. Because the longer people are with someone, the more used to having someone they are. And if you just have a short relationship then you won't even readjust.

>Get with her when she's had loads of other guys and it just means you're just another disposable chump in a long line of chumps.
Absolutely true.

I know this feel all too well
You should get a dog if you don't have one.
Fleshlight couldn't hurt either, but your dog will look at you funny if you use it while he's in the room.

This thread is suicide fuel. I'm 21 and I'm very mentally ill and physically ugly. I have barely any hope for finding anyone and maintaining a relationship.

How does partial suspension hanging work?

I know my opinion might be a little unpopular, but it's better to meet your SO in your mid 20s than your teens.
You change so much and so deeply, and end up loving someone who isn't a good match for you. Then you're stuck for the rest of your life with someone who you love and care for a lot but is probably a poor match for you. It's so fucking hard to break up with someone you have been with for most of your adult life, even if they're clearly not good for you anymore.
While if you meet someone when you're a little older, you're still young enough that you have most of your life to spend together but you are also more formed as a person and can meet someone actually good for you.
I'm 28 and I had two relationship, one started when I was 16 and lasted 7 years, and one started when I was 24 and still going. Personally, the one I have now is 10x better. We're a perfect match for each other, we have the life we dreamt of, we're completely compatible.
With my ex, we really cared for each other and loved each other, but we definitely grew apart after 3-4 years. Something I haven't experienced at all in my current relationship, we actually grew closer to each other.

>inb4 reeeee go out
I never post here, saw this thread by chance and thought it could be useful.

Found my gf at age 24, we are one year together and i'm pretty sure she's the one for me.

I'm a fucked up autist and she doesn't mind my weirdness, she likes sex and it's pretty needy, desu she's borderline insane sometimes, so we match

We both lost our virginity together and i can safely say i love her. But being honest with you, love is just luck, i found her at a party, she rejected me the first time i advanced on her and after some hours, she came to me and invited me to dance, even though she's terrible at it. So... my advice is to get our there, found new people, go to parties with your friends, get some decent hobby, make money and pray for the luck god. Don't be a beta though, you need to have confidence in yourself and talk to girls.

>you but 29
just use helium brah
live a few more years in escapism if you have the option but do it before you talk yourself out of it
inertia is a bitch

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>love is just luck
I swear I'm the unluckiest person on earth. Which is probably why I'm still alone.

>she rejected me the first time i advanced on her and after some hours, she came to me and invited me to dance
Can you expand on the story? Sounds actually interesting.

Couples that marry young are much more likely to divorce.
After 5 years, divorce rate for someone who marries in their teens is 40%, while for someone who marries in their mid to late 20s is 15%.

Unless you marry virgin, you have basically the same chances of divorcing whether you and your partner are each other's firsts or had up to 4 partners. Above that, the chances go up.

your wife has had dozens of other mens dicks inside of her

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I'm the wife. I had sex just with my ex and my husband, I don't like casual sex.

>We both lost our virginity together and i can safely say i love her.
At age 24? Or was she younger?

I believe woman, so you must be telling the truth.
Post tits and gtfo.

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Sure.
>friend of mine invites me to a party of his class
>he probably did it because i was his only friend that would buy from him, he's weird as fuck
>his mother even gave us a ride to the party
>Getting there, it as a "festa junina" as we would call in Brazil, it's a typical party in the winter where people dress like hicks, eat weird food and drink as much as you like
>my future girl is responsible for the fishing tend, it's just a game where you try to fish for a toy and if you, you gain a special drink
>Go there and say "Hey, if fish one of those, can i get girl as a prize?"
>she just laughs and say no
>get kinda sad, because she is the cutest one there and my eyes are on her since i got there
>time passes, i drink a lot
>even make out with another girl there, she was pretty wasted, more than me
>after that, i got a "elegant mail" (another game in these types of parties) from her, but it was anonymous
>i try to ask the girl who as responsible for it who mailed me, but to no avail
>after some time, finally my girl comes to me and invites me to dance

Cont next post
She was 21 at the time, pretty late for a girl i guess

Sounds like a wet dream of mine come true. Too bad IRL no girl would ever do shit like this in my case, no matter how flirty I am.

Cont.
>she is terrible at dancing, stepped on my foot several times
>after that dance, she tells me that it would be better if we just talk instead
>we go to a little wood house kinda far from the party and start talking
>she's pretty nice, we talked for almost 2 hours
>because it's cold i get my opportunity to hold her hands, they are like ice cubes, but i'm pretty warm, so she let me do it
>finally after all that time, we go inside the little house, there is no one there besides us
>We start to make out, she's a terrible kisser
>"you didn't kissed much in your life, right?"
>she's embarrassed and try to change the way she kiss
>touch her ass and legs, she's thin, but she have some nice hips, like a guitar
>try to go beyond that, but she refuses and says "not right now"
>after a while her friends come over and realize that she was making out with me, they go away laughing
>then we go out, sit in the grass, talk some more
>it was already late in the night, the party was almost over
>she says she need to leave and i reply "i'll add you on facebook, my friend has you there, don't worry about giving me your number"
>she laughed and said ok

That was it, we talked a lot using the internet, our second meet was one week after that.
Why not m8? Do you think you are that ugly? I'm a turbo manlet at 5'6, she's literally the same height as me, you need more confidence

Shut the fuck up, you utter faggot. This is a load of shit, my father LITERALLY found a rich jewess when he was 39. She was 28. He was literally selling books for a living.

>Why not m8? Do you think you are that ugly? I'm a turbo manlet at 5'6, she's literally the same height as me, you need more confidence
I'm a manlet too and honestly at 24, shit like this has never happened to me. Even on parties and stuff when I flirted with girls, none were really interested in anything more with me. Not to mention how there hasn't been many of them since most are taken.

>That was it, we talked a lot using the internet, our second meet was one week after that.
I recently met one girl and found her qt and I added her on facebook. I have absolutely no idea how to talk to girls like that.

Which is weird as hell because I'm really good at talking to girls on tinder. But when it comes to girls met IRL, especially through friends... I just can't.

I didn't get laid until I was 27. I had a good bit of money in the bank and had pursued lots of hobbies to a high standard and was other than my virginity and loneliness a pretty happy guy.

Now after one year with a gf I realise that that would have been impossible if i'd had a gf all along. They simply take up too much money and time and I don't mean being retarded with expensive presents I mean going for coffee constantly and booking holidays spent in such a way a single man could travel for a month.

Don't bother rushing OP. Genuinely no one cares. Sadly it takes losing your virginity to truly notice that and the insecurity and isolation of late virginity is a curse worth getting rid of but genuinely you have better things to be doing at 24.

Jesus christ it is so fucking hopeless. Rejection, rejection, rejection. Carry the entire conversation and everything all the way and rejection.
Tinder; ask a bunch of questions to a brick wall who will reply vaguely for like 30 minutes and stop responding.
I'm so tired of this shit.

I know how it is user, i went to a lot of parties, kissed a lot of drunk girls, but when we get to the 1 on 1 situation, our "second encounter", i blew it up too
My gf will always remember how i asked her if she had autism, i talked so much shit, i'm amazed she even invited me to her home after that date.

So when i say that love is luck, i do believe it. You only need a girl who will like you for who you are. Try to understand their situation, the majority of guys out there only want easy sex or abusive relationships, if you treat her right, things can go well. You just have to try more times

Then you are either lying or retarded. It's becoming more and more common to be single in your late 20s and 30s as well in Europe.

How old are you and they now? 23-25? Once they turn 30 see how many are still together.

The plural of anecdote is now "data"?

This.

Basically all the people I know broke up with their SO in their mid or late 20s when they started dating in high school.
I know just one couple who has been together since they were kids, and they cheated on each other in their late teens.

Yeah I feel you man. My experiences are exactly the same. Even when you get further with a girl, it still doesn't mean shit because she was looking for other guys all along.

No, I'm not lying. I'm talking about central Europe, not fucking west.

Shut the fuck up, you utter faggots. This is a load of shit, my father LITERALLY found a rich jewess when he was 39. She was 28. He was literally selling books for a living.

You are not central Europe, you are eastern Europe you stupid Pole.

>So when i say that love is luck, i do believe it.
And I firmly believe I have no luck. Not only when it comes to relationships. This entire year has been a fucking nightmare. I wrecked my car (completely random situation), failed an exam by being exactly 1 point away from passing it. And then comes the whole shit with me and girls.

And honestly it doesn't matter how well I treat a girl. There's always someone better than me who either treats her better or is simply better looking which just murders everything I do for the girl. Like a typical Chad could do nothing and the girl would cream herself over him whereas I could be the good loyal choice but she just doesn't want a manlet. And all that shit has permanently damaged my mind honestly which is also not a good thing.

>this is how incels think dating works

Okay I am. I'm not even gonna ask how did you figure that out but yeah, that's how it is here.

I shouldn't need to mention that that's an anecdote and your dad's luck does not apply to everyone else.

Hey fuck off Poland is exactly the center of Europe. Eastern Europe is Belarus and shit like that you nigger. Learn geography.

Guys also look for girls all along. So you get a situation like applying to every job there is except you can get hired by multiple jobs at the same time so they never move down on the resume list.

True, but honestly it's a lot different because guys are the active party, meaning they're the ones to actually put effort to find someone else, so there's actually a lot less guys that do this shit simply because you can only spend so much time.

Meanwhile girls are receiving offers and don't have to do shit really.

Very obvious when you insist on saying central yet hate western at the same time.

I know plenty of single Poles in their late 20s and 30s. According to wikipedia the average age for marriage in Poland is 28.

For some reason west doesn't want to recognize Poland as Central. It's like the post-USSR countries don't exist for you people...

user, marriage =/= couples. People form couples a lot earlier and marry later, because only then they have the actual financial stability for that as well as having children. Such is our economy.

Because Poland is still a post-USSR shithole compared to the west. You are catching up slowly but it will still take at least another generation.

No. Geographically we're the center. And even if you want to consider the economic standing then there's a major difference between Poland and the actual eastern Euro countries like Belarus, Ukraine or Russia. Not to mention that Poland is not really "post-USSR" because we were never part of the USSR in the first place.

Kek lots of people (as expected) thought my plan was as autistic and it was but is there a better option? Isn't the point of the first date to get to know them? My plan doesn't guarantee a gf obviously the point is to get you to waste less time.
Would you rather waste the majority of one day trying to get one date or waste weeks and weeks or even months beings friends and then hoping you don't get friendzoned? Even if people are more reserved you still never know it's a better shot then trying to get all buddy buddy with a co-worker then hopping you don't get friendzoned. And any risks are still present even if you try to "get to know them" first. If Europe is as cucked as theses anons say they are then anons in the US should try it. Of course you'd have to improve yourself first but you'd also have to do that if you tried the "be friends first" tactic
Call me a fool if you want but I've seen success using it

They are now in their 30s. My one female colleague met het b/f when she was 18 -she's now 37. Facebook also shows me the couples who were dating in school are still together nearly 20 years together.

Those who are single now in their 30s are those who had multiple relationships in their teens and 20s.

I see it all the time. Hitch up in the golden years between 18-22 and you're highly likely to last together for life. Meet together in your late 20s-early 30s, after multiple partners, and I'd give your relationship a 25% chance of surviving a decade.

Couples who marry in their early teens have 50% chance of divorcing before their mid 20s.

That's a good start imo, you gotta just make the jump.

The library is a solid advice desu. You just have to believe in yourself and above all look like Chad.