Feel like a girl inside

>feel like a girl inside
>know I'm not one and can never be one
>constant anguish every moment because of this disconnect
>hormones and girl's clothes and being called she and being called a female name make me feel unbelievably better compared to before but it still doesn't bridge the gap and I still feel awful constantly

Will I feel like a real girl if I have sex with a man?

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Obvious bait is obvious.
If not, no sex with a man won't make you feel like a girl, neither will hormones. Your best bet is to just accept the fact that you were born with a dick and dress how you like I suppose. Or legally change your gender so people have to call you faggot sama

Only in death

Gee OP I wonder

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What the hell? Being a man is awesome. Unironically look up the red pill and become a misogynist. Once you understand the true nature of thots you'll be thankful for being the superior magnanimous gender.

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I do accept that I was born with a dick. The truth is most painful thing in the world. I wish so badly I was never born, why did I have to be born into this nightmare? I want to donate my body to science and kill myself so they can study my brain and hopefully find some kind of in depth explanation for why people like me exist just on the off chance that it somehow prevents others from ever experiencing this pain.

I won't feel like a real girl in death, I won't feel anything. I will never experience wholeness and congruence because I'm a defective shell.

Of course I'm mentally ill.

Also start lifting, the testosterone should help fix you up and you'll feel better. Please tell me you haven't already started hormones.

>>>>>>>>>Go there. Stay there.

How old are you user? And no, you won't

Being a man can absolutely be great if you don't have gender dysphoria. I'm not disputing that. You don't seem to understand that my condition has nothing to do with any logical benefits to being one sex over the other.

My testosterone was already in the high end of the normal male range before I started hormones, and taking female hormones made me feel dramatically better. I hate the ignorance of everyone so much. Becoming more masculine is the worst thing you can do when you have a horrific defect that causes you to feel intense revulsion at your own masculinity, isn't that just obvious?

You should have have sex with a man, thats what most AGPs like you do to feel morw feminine

>Will I feel like a real girl if I have sex with a man?
Probably not but it might be fun for him.

If you really have gender dysphoria then just consult a professional, otherwise, stop LARPing like a faggot.

I'm sorry OP. The reality is medical science is just not there yet for your condidtion. I unfortunately don't have any meaningful advice. Fucking a man may help but you should tell him you're trans first.

Why do you think I haven't consulted a professional about it

>tfw agp
>tfw worried one day I will break and bring out my faggotry into real life

Sometimes I lose my mind dress up as a girl put ads on doublelist looking for men, but then I get scared of being exposed as a faggot or getting AIDS so I end up flaking

>always wish I was a girl
>feel anguish from the fact that I'm not female and do not have the advantages they have such as being able to look sexy and wear skirts and dresses in public and be generally treated better for being female and for being cute
>not cute
>disgustingly manly body, built-fat and hairy, could never look female in a million years
>looked quite androgynous at 13 but didn't want to be a trap until later

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Bost toypucci or get out

How long have you felt this way? I know someone who went through serious gender dysphoria for years (I mean a major chunk of their lives) then it eventually resolved and it stopped bothering them.

Well I hope you stay strong. It is not worth it. This shitty fantasy does not translate well into reality.

Get water filters asap and stop eating onions

It started when I was four, my earliest memories are feeling this way. It's not just my imagination either because my mom has pointed out the she noticed it when I was four.

I'm twenty six now, It's never fucking going away.

God I hate all of you transgendered people, all of you are so far up your own ass you can only perceive the world in the most limited black and white manners, you're not sick you're not special, it's you who brought yourself to think this way but you're so unbelievably mentally weak that you won't even consider to change your thoughts, you're mentally and emotionally unfit for society or any life in a social structure, the only worth you can serve is to be a cock sleeve for other degenerates like you

>condition with 41% attempted suicide rate and life expectancy of 30
>rare but found in every major country
>all modern research point to it being a biological defect
just BE urself and it'll go away HURR

>men
>tall
>strong
>hairy
>smelly
>deep voice
>overall masculine

Being a man is awful why would anyone want this

>thinking that any man would actually want to put their dick near the gross AGP trannies

Im agp amd not gross at all

if youre right youre one of the lucky ones
at least 99% of AGPs are abominable

Most agps who are ugly look ugly just because they are old and never took care of themselves.

Young agps are cute

Based & AGPilled

>look ugly just because they are old and never took care of themselves.
damn this is basically me except im not old
so an autistic 18 year old 6 feet tall guy who wants to be a girl and also who looks like a basedboy but with long hair is cute to you?

Im agp 5'4 120 lbs and look pretty cute

If they're a twinkhon then yes they're cute. As long as they're not fat with an awful frame they're cute if they're young

kek ill never be able to even come close to competing with you
tfw already a hon by age 18
JUST

The longer you leave it the more of a hon you'll be~

ive already been taking a sufficient dose of HRT for like 2 months now
idk what i would be, but i am kind of fat and also some of my friends said i look like a tranny in some of the pictures ive taken of myself.

Im 21 and not even on hrt lol

youre still probably better off than me though, i got really shit genetics for being a tranny.

Yes i am, this is me

so you said youre not even taking HRT though?

Im not since I still live with my conservative parents, I hope I get to leave before I become older and masculine so I can take hrt and stay cute

litterally just order HRT online

>Feel like a girl inside
What does this even mean?
That you dislike your penis?
That you dislike your body?
Because those are the only things that make you different from girls. You can still wear what you like, feel cute and pretty. You can still do and think of those "girly" things. The reality is not always ideal, it gives us shit situations that we have to make the best of. I think it's best for people like you to try accept their body and make their life the best they can. You can still enjoy life, love exists and you don't need a vagina to have fun in life. There's more in life than just the outer shell of people.

You are just depressed and somehow deluded yourself into thinking that maybe if you were a girl things would be better, but it won't. Trannies kill themselves anyway because they finally realise after all the hormones and surgery that being a man or a woman wasn't the root of your problem. I mean that's my theory atleast since I've had thoughts like this myself.

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But if I get caught ill get kicked out and end up homeless

have it shipped to a post office box and just drive there and pick it up and hide it somewhere your parents wont find it.

i have gender dysphoria too, user. you just have to become the girl you know you are, I guess.

No, you'll feel like a faggot with a dick in his ass.

>"all of you are so far up your own ass you can only perceive the world in the most limited black and white manners"
thats you lol

That's what I did when I was living with my dad. Put them in a random vitamin bottle too so people don't see them if they go through your stuff


I'm the UK you can order stuff straight to the post office and pick it up from there if you can't pay for a PO BOX. You can probably do something similar in the US.

It means that the way you (presumably) just simply know that you're a guy is the way I just simply know I'm a girl. The difference between us is that for you that 'simplying knowing' is correct and for me it's wrong. It has nothing to do with gender roles, I know that girls can be masculine and guys can be feminine, I know that wearing a dress or makeup doesn't make someone a girl, it's not about that at all. It's about trying desperately to make that 'simply know' feeling right instead of wrong, because it's impossible to escape and I have to find SOME way to deal with it

Let me destroy that boypossie op

If you had any willpower and a desire to be normal, you'd start working on that.

I used to have the same thoughts, but I fought through them. Think about your family, your people and bloodline. They'd be disappointed if they saw you giving into this sickness.

Be rational and realise that if you fall for the tranny meme, you'll never have a family or children of your own blood.

I would never in my life consider for one second passing this evil to another human, I would rather die a thousand times than entertain even the remote possibility of passing my defect to another living creature

You think my family doesn't know about this? It's why I don't have family anymore

>you'll never have a family or children of your own blood

I don't believe in blood bonds and i am antinatalist.

what people? what bloodline?
what family? why do I want to impress people who turned their backs on me at my most vulnerable?

why are you two answering as if that was addressed to you and not op

>They'd be disappointed if they saw you giving into this sickness
>"oh how sad, user isn't ruining his life like we did by having kids at his age"
>"how sad, user isn't passing along tranny genes"
>"how sad, user, whom i do not let inside my house and whose number i blocked, is not giving me grandchildren i will never meet"

i have giving that user some perspective. he is lacking in it.

>>feel like a girl inside
can't deny i know what you feel
but there's really not much you can actually do about it
sure you could try transition, but chances are it won't give you genuine fulfillment. not a lot make it, but if you're willing to take a gamble on it then go for it.
it's just there's really nothing you can do about it and chances are the only alternative you have will (((statistically))) make you want to kill yourself and you won't be happy.
like the best to suggest is to just to try and establish a comfort with yourself and the gender you are.
maybe meet someone who knows how you feel and can turn your mindset around. this is really the only solution. but then again you could give this advice to anyone but it's fucking good advice.

Rather interesting. I don't think I have that "simply knowing that I'm a guy" in me. I don't feel that much of me or my personality is tied to my sex. I'm me before I'm a man.
How do you feel that your "inner knowing that I'm girl" is wrong then? Like, how exactly is it wrong, what makes you think that it's wrong?
These things are interesting for me.

actually transitioning doesn't make you suicidal. the truth is that we all start out suicidal and transitioning does nothing.

It's time to search for internal truth and meaning in your life. your gender dysphoria won't go away.
the only thing that can save you is yourself. the search begins.

not that user, but its so intrinsic that cis people will never think about it, if it was wrong though you would know rite away.

tfw no actual cure to tranny mental illness

Your problem is learned, behavioural, rather than genetic. All you have to do is unlearn all the unhealthy thoughts that modern society and media have engraved into you.

Also, earn back the respect of your family, then. Show them that you're capable of sorting yourself out.

Have fun dying alone in a retirement home with no one close around you. Is your nihilistic emptiness the reason you're on this board?

Explain further, please.

most likely not. just stick to hormones, dress, she/her pronouns, whatever you're doing. if you're not already, get a therapist or something.
i'm sorry if this doesn't help.

yeah there is, google it.
suicide rates go down to "normal people" level in transgender people whose families, jobs, friends etc. show acceptance and warmth toward them

I just don't understand your assertion OP, I set up an example:
"I always wished I was a cat, so that I could do nothing all day and feed off rats. And I feel like a cat because I watched too much Tom and Jerry and always wanted to eat that pesky mouse."

what do you know about being a cat? I get that genomically human male and female aren't so far apart, but what is the difference you feel outside of body parts? If they were only behavioural surely you could just act them out.

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>Explain further, please.
My ancestors are like from hundreds of years ago dude, they hated faggots. why would i want to impress stuffy old retards?

>Have fun dying alone in a retirement home with no one close around you. Is your nihilistic emptiness the reason you're on this board?
>implying transgenders ever make it to the retirement home
....... user i

>not that user, but its so intrinsic that cis people will never think about it, if it was wrong though you would know rite away.
Yeah maybe but I'm knda interested where does the feeling wrong part comes from.

They were right, though. Why live with something so harmful to society and yet so easily curable?

that example isn't what OP said at all, they didn't say "i wish i was a girl so i could do x and y and i feel like a girl because i consumed too much media"
that's really condescending and shitty of you, especially to compare us to fucking animals.

>Like, how exactly is it wrong, what makes you think that it's wrong?
I have a penis and a Y chromosome and went through male puberty.

>I'm me before I'm a man.
This is exactly what I mean. I'm me, and the me that I am is not reflected in reality, there is a major discrepancy. I permanently always 24/7 feel a complete and total wrongness with myself. I feel like I'm some kind of hideously deformed female, but logically it's not any kind of body deformity, it's just that I'm male and not female. I don't feel like a man or a woman honestly, I just feel like me, man and woman feel more loaded. The problem is who I am fundamentally. My hands are too big. Oh that's fine, some girls have hands that are too big. But how many girls have bigs hands, and big feet, AND are really tall, and have broad shoulders, AND have narrow hips, AND don't menstruate AND can't have children and of fucking course have a penis, AND have a y chromosome, etc. fucking etc.

>so easily curable
>so harmful to society

okay, post sources that support either of these or explain your point of view. cuz to ME, when i do research, no source says it's curable and no source says it's harmful to society.
I also personally don't think population control is bad
>inb4 only whites are gay and trans
actually there's a higher percent of black transgenders and while youre googling those other things you can check this fact out as well.

i wont be one of the lucky few who actually gets to look like a girl though. as long as i still look like a guy (which will be forever) i dont imagine how i could actually get better with the current technology.

brain structure or chemistry. same as any other tormenting disorder which torments you.

We are animals after all, I wanted to understand what the disconnect is about but guess I can't get an unemotional answer.

unlearn how you think a girl looks then. unlearn how you think a guy looks. pic related transitioned at 30 and looks fine.

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I am sorry for not letting you get away with being an idiot because it pissed me off.

I think we must not forget. this is a disease of the mind. and it's a horrible one, I feel bad for all of you gender confused people. I do have a theory that someone is inducing this kindof mental state in people because it is not natural. it might be related to the mice experiment where male mice become more feminine when civilization becomes too easy or something.

I guess the mind is a complex organ but I don't think it can't be changed. a person's free will might overpower and control the mind. ofcourse we don't know.

In todays world doctors and surgions will tell you to cut things off or change our body to fit your unattainable mental image. sadly even if you do attain it the feeling might not go away.

spirituality seems to be the only answer.
views like mine are considered wrong but if you want to get better you have to look for every option. not just mainstream ones(that are probably propagated against you)

HRT can't change facial structure and shrink my ribcage

I'm sure you are not sorry and not helping explain anything
is it that obvious that the wrong part is your sex? And not body perception in general?

but ive heard that it used to be a thing even in ancient greece and rome too though

>unlearn how you think a girl looks then. unlearn how you think a guy looks
be a girl with an angular face. be a girl with a big rib cage. take up space. you deserve to exist as much as anyone else, and more than some people ITT.

It's not an issue of body perception. My male body is not ugly. I've had friends and relationships. There are obviously major benefits to being a female, but there are benefits to being a male as well, and transitioning for any benefits would be absolutely ridiculous considering the insane drawbacks that come with transitioning.

I would even argue that it's not even accurately a sex issue. I would be fine with being a guy if I didn't have this disconnect, if I just felt natural and normal being a guy. I wouldn't want to be a female who felt male either.

I can be a woman that has all those features but at the end of the day if people still gender me male I still want to die inside. Social dysphoria is a bitch because you have to play to societies rules

genetics are one of the only things that actually matters for being a tranny and i didnt get good genetics for it. "muh starting age" doesnt even make that much of a difference if even the fucking actual women in your family look like men.

Hollywood started to put out moves that reflected our current degenerate culture. they want you to think people where always this and that. we are truly fallen. to keep people from moral questioning they tell you stories about how past civilizations through all of time were just like us yay!
I mean go tell them otherwise they're the professors archaeologists historians and 'edumicated' ones.
just watch how much school text book info has changed through the years. soon they'll be teaching that arabs are native to europe .

believe what you will

>implying that a field as pozzed, unscientific and known for intentional social engineering as psychology produces honest and unbiased research

If you look at older studies before Jewish, Marxist and Postmodernist takeovers of the field, you can find studies detailing cures for homosexuality and gender-dysphoria-related disorders.

I myself used to be a faggot for 3 or so years in my teens until I stopped being a nihilist and found meaning through bloodlines.

Also I don't give a shit what race has more trannies in America, you're all exposed to the same shit. Compare cultures instead.

It's harmful to society because children exposed to it are deluded into replicating these thoughts and behaviors. They become hedonists and sex addicts. That's how homosexuals and trannies reproduce.

>there's a gay male equivalent to ex-ftm terms

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>I stopped being a nihilist and found meaning through bloodlines
lel what the fuck are bloodlines?

he got duped into thinking he was gay when he wasn't, that means gayness doesn't real. If you don't listen to this virgin neet lecture you on the importance of having children you are LITERALLY brainwashed by the jews

>the lgbt community is addicted to sex and are hedonists
you were gay from being a porn addict. this is not true of most people.

>you can find studies detailing cures for homosexuality and gender-dysphoria-related disorders
yes they have some good advice in there, like bloodletting if you find your humors too bilious

Transgenderism isn't a modern illness there's always been evidence of men who want to be women in every society. Men used to drink pregnant horse piss for the estrogenic effects

How about you do your best to be a guy for a year? Stop the hormone therapy, start eating healthy, go hit the gym every day and find a skill/passion/hobby that you would devote your free time to. Find a guy fashion that you like or find attractive and follow it, wether it's the jap/korean one or just the classic western guy look. Hell it might even be gopnik fashion for all I care. Grit your teeth and push through it, following your plan for a year. Act like a guy, learn gentleman's manners. Stop masturbating. Don't date anyone unless you feel the desire to date a girl. Take good care of yourself. Shower every day and shave regularly. Go watch some anime with cool boys in it if you have to. (Boku no hero academia is my suggestion). Start meditating twice a day and go read some philosophy in your free time. Try this for a year, you have nothing to lose. Worst case scenario is that you won't feel any better and you'll be at square one.

By that I meant that I acknowledged that the greatest source of meaning in life is to honour what thousands of generations before you have done and continue their legacy.