Tfw no friends and no social skills

People scoff at using Tinder, but even if you only get dates with 5s and they all go nowhere, it is a fantastic move to make. I've only been using it for 3 months or so and it's incredible how much more confident and less anxious I feel in social situations. Also the fact that I'm going on any dates alleviated my insecurity that I'm a loser who sits at home doing nothing all the time.

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Yup, this.

Tinder is great because:

1. Low consequences of fucking up like with coworkers. Nothing really haunts you afterwards. This should reduce the pressure on you knowing you'll probably never see this person again if you screw up.

2. Really easy to generate interactions.

3. You already know the person likes you enough to show up and pay attention. I personally do way better when I don't have to worry about maintaining constant second-by-second excitement the way you have to worry about when talking to a stranger in the bar.

4. You can control a lot of variables. You can usually pick a place, which means you can have a place scoped out ahead of time and free up resources to focus on the interaction instead of finding your way around, deciding on what to order etc.

>*crickets*

if OP does not heed the advice already given, he's too far gone, and this thread is a waste of time

OP here, i am both short and ugly

thanks
worried that i have nothing to put in my tinder profile, and i don't have any pics of me

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>, listen to people. let people talk about THEMSELVES
Thats such a false statement that so many of us take at face value, the outcome almost all of us get in return is, "Well he literally din't say anything, he just asked me bunch of questions, it felt like an interview" I heard this numerous fucking times
Also tinder marketeers are strong in here, not to mention that in concept it could only kinda work at USA

dont worry about the text. no one gives a shit. maybe write a few words about what your job is, but make it sound impressive

and, again, no matter how cunt-ugly you are, you can make yourself look good in pictures. i presume you lift, so make yourself look fit. chicks cant tell youre short in the picture, so that doesnt fucking matter

and DO read the book i said. even if youre one of those retards who dont read, do it anyway. its a really short book

as for getting the proper pictures for tinder, its a bit of a bitch. i had a friend take like 100 pictures of me while we got drunk, and i used the best ones. but you dont have friends, so, i dno, maybe some selfies or something. selfies arent IDEAL, but good-looking selfies are better than non-goodlooking anythings

him,

yes youre 100% right, and i talk more than 10%, but thats because im confident & i have interesting things to say (i study law, i read a lot of non-fiction, and im eloquent). but as a starting rule of thumb for kissless autists, my advice there should be heeded

I think the difference is listening vs asking questions...
interview = whats your job, where are you from, what do you like etc

listening is saying stuff like and what happened next when they are telling a story or adding a comment

What if you have a small dick

lol by the time girls figure out you got a small dick, its already too late for them to do anything about it

you guys will literally make up any reason to be kissless and afraid, wont you?

so you disappoint some slut with your microdick. who cares, fuck her, she deserves to feel bad for being a slut anyway lol

>tfw 26 year old khv and never even considered using tinder because ugly friendless shut-in (besides work) autist

also the thought of even going on a date terrifies me

make her suck it, you'll feel better when it's in her mouth and you realize who cares

>1. Low consequences of fucking up like with coworkers. Nothing really haunts you afterwards. This should reduce the pressure on you knowing you'll probably never see this person again if you screw up.

this one is crazy to me... people you work with are the easiest to try to date especially given how much time you spend with them, but imagine how horrible it would be asking one out nd they say no

it is horrible, even for socially competent people

ATTENTION, KISSLESS VIRGINS & SOCIALLY INSECURE AUTISTS

get on tinder. get some goodlooking pictures (if youre ugly, make yourself look good. its easier than you think) and match with everyone

if you havent done so within 30 minutes after reading this post, youre hopeless & unworthy of help

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Look, stop being a fucking retard, two scenarios

1. You don't go on a date. Chance of female contact - 0%

2. You do go on a date. Chance of female contact - 1%+

Why would you not choose 2? You're just making excuses for you own failure.

>and match with everyone
oh and then i thought the "tinder algorithm" actually punishes people who swipe on everyone

tinder is a joke

enjoy being a virgin until you snap & buy a prostitute in your 40s

>also the thought of even going on a date terrifies me
It was the same for me bro. Even walking out the door to go on that first one felt fucking surreal and nerve wracking, as pathetic as that sounds. Then you get through it and you realise it's perfectly normal and nothing to worry about.

It is so fucking important to just take that first step, it'll do fucking wonders for you, trust me.

>read tinder threads
>YEAH DUDE DON'T SWIPE ON A LOT OF PEOPLE THE TINDER ALGORITHM WILL SEND YOU TO THE BOTTOM

>this is what shills like you think dating should be

>"Well he literally din't say anything, he just asked me bunch of questions, it felt like an interview"
To overcome this try "cold reading" as explained in Models.

Basically throw statements instead of questions. E.g.:

Where did you grow up?
>You grew up in the mid-west

If you are right: OMG how did you know? OR Yeah, I grew up in Indianapolis bla bla bla
If you are wrong: No, I grew up in Jersey. What made you think that?

The point is that it doesn't matter if you are right or wrong, it springs you to a new topic of conversation

were you a kinda shut in loser with not much to talk about or did you have a good life besides the virgin thing

name?

Yeah I just gave up on socializing. It doesn't work if you're an ugly awkward manlet. Be as avoidant as possible and find solo hobbies.

I'm somewhat attractive and am rather good at piano. Otherwise I was a bad student with maybe one or two friends who I rarely saw, and no social life to speak of. I am also pretty autistic and find it hard to have good conversations when the other person isn't extroverted. So I wouldn't say I had a good life, other than trying to improve it in other ways, eg. going to the gym and dressing better.

>no social life
>somewhat attractive
I never met seen a loner who was somewhat attractive. You need to be honest about your looks.

READ DALE CARNEGIE

really, it WILL change your life & make conversations feel like a breeze

the book is so fucking short too

again, theres an audiobook of it

yeah sounds like me. literally just avoid social interaction as much as i can to avoid exposing my awkwardness

>tfw at work im an angry guy, make people laugh easily and funny but still just generally angry and annoyed a lot but can at least talk to people
>go to a bar with coworkers
>sit there completely mute in a corner before running away

>33 and a khv
This is just sad. You're probably screwed

Maybe your yardstick is a little different to mine then. I don't look like a fucking model but women have told me I'm hot or cute more than once. But sure, pretend I look like a goblin if it helps, it's definitely not the thing that gives me social difficulty.

I did, but I suffered the same problems mentioned earlier where it turned all my conversations into interviews. I will read it again soon though, and it did help me at least have something to fill awkward silence with.

>tinder

But what if he isn't white?

if he wasnt white, he wouldnt be having these fucking problems lol

maybe dont read it again. maybe do what some other dudes here have suggested. its not just about interviewing people, its about showing an interest & making people feel important whenever they are around you

>if he wasnt white, he wouldnt be having these fucking problems lol
what do you mean?

be yourself

and how do you practice social gains?

Consider joining a religious organization. Doesn't matter which one. People there are generally pretty nice and are happy to talk to you, and will even go out of their way to do so. You may see it just as them trying to get "brownie points" with their religion/Church/God but I think also people just tend to be their nicest when they're attending their organization. And I think people tend to not give as much of a shit if you're autistic, in general they are very kind. Also it might be very comfy and give you a sense of purpose. Or maybe not and it'll do nothing for you desu. But it's worth going once or twice imo.

all my friends i know through the internet, i voice chat and play videogames with people pretty much every waking hour of every day except for leaving the house 3 times a week for about 3 hours, i work out and diet at home and am basically a neet. i have one real life person that tries to hang out with me but hanging out with them means getting tempted to do drugs or play a videogame i have no interest in. i had a friend with benefits but we stopped contacting each other about 6 months ago. i find myself not enjoying being out in real life an awfull lot, cus most things that are fun cost lots of moneys. wat do :)

OP post body and face so you can get some REAL advice. Show us what clothes you wear.

Exactly. Advice is retarded bad. Like out of an 80s movie

there is so much spot-on advice for social gains in this thread that if you dont acknowledge & adopt it, you are so inconceivably socially autistically smafuckingly retarded that you might as well just cut of your dick, because you will NEVER learn anything. holy shit

when perfect advice is staring you in the face, take it or leave it

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so all advice is secondary to telling you to have some balls and talk to people so its hard to give tips that matter but i'll try
>give up validation. lets you not be anxious about what people are thinking so long as you are morally sound. make decisions based on what you feel like doing and maintain your self-respect
>practice not having to be perfect or always say the right thing. it makes you fucking weird. be willing to fail. when you mistep or even when you seem weird dont analyze the mistake. its done, and you havent done anything morally wrong so why care? if anyone else fixates on that shit walk away and find someone else to hang out with and dont sweat it.
>you dont have to react to everything. just observe and say something if you feel like it
>its not a perfect process and people who socialize a lot and have some maturity know this. its okay to spend some time reaching for common ground without a smooth conversation
>take women off a pedestal. you will never fuck anyone until you start a conversation without already deciding to fuck or try to get a girlfriend. desperation will make every woman hate your guts
>dont hate women. you have to actually enjoy talking to them and being around them. accept their flaws and enjoy the beauty they can offer. again just enjoy it at first, dont need it or they'll run away.
>consider limiting porn use. makes your sense of sexuality all weird and fucky. takes away your appreciation of experiencing another person and makes it 'benis in vagoo, worship that ass, if i dont crave sex like meth i must not be a man' kinda shit. sex is a nice thing you can do sometimes but you are a rational human and can get lasting satisfaction elsewhere. its really good to get laid regylarly if you manage tho. more of a confidence boost than a fix
>practice. desensitize. mentally adapt. spend more time with people even if tou arnt talking to them directly. take walks in public areas, see a movie. make eye contact with chashiers.

He means it's easier for non white guys to get girls judging by his post

in ape-cultures, the betas are just fucking thrown in rivers & killed immediately. only white culture enables betas to live long enough for them (you) to sit on message boards & bitch about not getting laid

lol

youve got weird ass fantasies kid

im a feminine guy, so by definition im beta but like i dont have troubles getting laid and im generally well liked. does that mean im technically maybe sorta alpha or something? like in one of your ape cultures i could get a big stwong alpha to protect me, how does that work/fit into your train of thought?

Have you tried being yourself?

you can't just keep asking questions, you need to work out what they are interested in and get them talking about it

>What do?
Spend more time at the gym.

is that you dale? back from the dead?

if you're interviewing people you missed the point. you ask questions to see what they are interested in(helps to take a genuine interest) then get them talking about it. always think in terms of their perspective and remember that people have big egos that are easy to stroke and they can't ever take criticism. people want others to take an interest in them and talk about themselves so they will be perfectly happy to do so if you can just give them the initial push

fucking men doesn’t count in this situation, faggot

lol get more triggered, faggot

How do you show off being in good shape without wearing extra tight shirts or gong shirtless?