What's so bad about rape?

Rape destroys a virgin woman's worth. Back in the old days this was quite a despicable crime. Hell even the Bible said if you raped a girl you better marry her so she can at least have a family and still be something.
However women aren't virgins anymore so that worth is gone out the window. It's weird how sexual liberation has allowed women to willingly devalue themselves so severely, so much so that men won't marry anymore.
I still see rape as a pretty bad crime, however with contraceptives being a thing and most women already being used goods it's not as severe a crime as it was in the old days.

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That doesn't sound that bad at all though.

Well I'm not gay but women like cock so you're analogy is shit

i got my virginity raped away
the lighter we are on sentencing for rape, the more virgins will get raped.

right... only heterosexual sluts who love cock get raped.

Well why do you still think it's a bad crime user? I'm not saying its a good thing by any means, but what makes it so bad? I understand the virginity idea, but as you said that doesn't hold water anymore.

It's someone taking control and using you for their own gratification, literally entering your body
Also, rapists aren't exactly gentle people and often injure their victim

fuck off wraune you dumb underage roast

>casual sex
>wholesome

Sex is inherently degrading because of the whole male domination thing that grills are into (most of them, at least), so rape doesnt seem like it would be that foreign a concept.

Well most rape victims are straight females, so yeah

Well, it's a bit more complicated than that.
I never experienced rape, but the way how I imagine it is the fact that being in that situation, you just don't feel pleasure from it at all. You just realize that someone is using your body for their own self gratification. They don't care about you at all. All they care about is feeling good about themselves and dominate. Also it would feel like someone is stabbing you in the crotch over and over.

is it bad that i'd prefer to get raped than this shit happening to me what the fuck it literally hurts to think about this

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But what is so bad about it? You just compared it to some dumb contrived scenario instead of giving specifics as to why it's so traumatic.

>the lighter we are on sentencing for rape, the more virgins will get raped.
this is utter bullshit. rapists are going to rape. full stop. non-rapists are not going to rape.

Does anyone else think rape is more of a spectrum?

This seems more reasonable than most of these other posts. But why do they not feel like they're being used when they have consentual sex either? Is it the fact that the pleasure is mutual, rather than reserved for the rapist only?

no. rape is forcible intercourse. that spectrum shit is the new school hippy dippy shit that gets things like oops my fingertip touched your vulva classified as rape

>rapists are going to rape
then they should be in jail forever, then there's fewer rapists on the street. non-rapists don't have to worry about it.

It definitely doesn't seem black and white. Like being raped as a virgin vs. not a virgin, raped by the opposite sex as a hetero vs. as a homo, etc.

but like this guy said anal, vaginal, etc.

>forcible intercourse
The problem that doesn't make it clear cut is, women sometimes like that.

these things can be used to determine severity for sentencing the guilty, but the act itself is black & white, imo

yeah maybe so

>women sometimes like that
sexcuse me?

they do tho. it takes a lot of reading of body language etc to determine how hard a girl wants to be pushed, as most consent is non-verbal

i think you would notice if you were raping someone.

I'm surprised how civil this conversation is so far

Yes, I would think that it's because it's mutual.
When having consensual sex, you are also thinking about the other person as well as yourself. I think that makes a huge difference.

>its another convince me rape is bad thread

Listen, you're a sociopath. Just accept it.

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you have no idea what it's like to be a guy trying to get laid, in a world where girls expect a guy to be aggressive and forceful otherwise her pussy never gets wet. a world where if you ask her permission to have sex, she's almost immediately turned off and stops consenting. i mean, obviously if the girl is screaming for the guy to stop (rapeplay notwithstanding) he doesn't have consent, but during normal times the guy is expected to be a little "rapey". i can't be assed to phrase that better at the moment, so i hope that made sense.

the alternative - waiting for her to initiate... well anyone with practical experience knows what a shit idea that usually is.

>girls expect a guy to be aggressive and forceful otherwise her pussy never gets wet. a world where if you ask her permission to have sex, she's almost immediately turned off and stops consenting
t.virgin

nigger, why the fuck would people you know recognize you from your pulverized asshole? are they the ones that raped you?

sure thing, bucko.

anyways, i'm bored now. gonna go to a different thread.

consent is complex. women liking aggression makes it complicated.

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You like the penis though

Forced insemination is bad not only for the mother but for the kid. A kid with a broken home has shit odds of success at life. Beyond that, the rapist can pass on any STDs they may have, or cause varying degrees of anatomical damage to the vagina/anus. I've heard of victims who suffered chronic pain, infertility or other equally shitty stuff like Vaginismus which is essentially the vagina tensing up so much that sex becomes an extremely painful act for the victim in future consensual encounters. I tried to exclude mental conditions since people seem to focus way too much on feels and not enough on the physical consequences.

I am just trying to differentiate between rapes and dubious consensual encounters or kinks gone off the deep end that often come up whenever people talk about this issue.

Thanks for the well thought out response. I should have specified that when I said rape, I meant rape in which children are not a product, as it becomes very obvious how that is wrong and can potentially ruin lives. Violent rape (including bodily damage) also has clear consequences and makes sense that it is traumatic. I guess I should change my question to what is about about non-violent, protected rape (I guess what would be classified as a basic case of rape) that is so traumatic?

>You just realize that someone is using your body for their own self gratification. They don't care about you at all.
I'm pretty hard thinking about someone doing that to me. Doesn't sound to bad, tbph.

eh. I understand what you think.
Maybe im thinking about it too much, but I would think there is a ddifference between fantasy and reality. You think it turns you on being in that situation, but if it happened in real life where you really didnt want it. lets say in the moments where you just want to go home, someone forces you into that. You just don't feel pleasure and only pain. Maybe I'm being too sensitive, but even if you have some kind of fetish involving being dominated, There comes a point where you really don't want to be in that kind of situation.

i think youre downplaying the extent to which rape isn't just a physical assault but a psychological assault too, part of what makes it so traumatic is that someone has overcome your dominion and made you powerless (hot in theory which explains rape fantasies, terrifying in practice)

you don't know what diseases you could catch, unwanted pregnancies, what sick fetishes they could force you to participate in, and whether or not they'd beat or kill you afterward

not to mention of course the actual physical pain of rape, particularly for virgins such as myself- when my male friend unexpectedly forced his finger inside me, i bled so much my dress was soaked in it

but yeah the psychological impact would make me prefer a non-sexual, physical assault anyday- when i was molested by a classmate, i couldn't bear to see myself naked for the next month without imagining the panic in that moment or feeling his hands and that I would've been powerless to stop it, i wanted to disown my body

im a person who wants to lose my virginity to someone i love only (sex being spiritual to me), so to actually be raped- have my agency, virtuous ideals and freedom violated for the sake of his quick gratification- would just destroy me.

So basically every single day of a working mans life?

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>get raped by Chad
>women fantasize about this every day
>it's in their romance books, their diaries, their fanfics, etc.

>get raped by a beta
>worse than death
This is how women think. It's more polite to say "rape is the worst crime ever" rather than saying "80% of all men existing is the worst crime ever."

If women still had self respect for themselves and values such as chastity were being promoted then rape being a serious crime would be understandable, but now that most women are emotionally used up whores rape is meaningless.