Ok i've been a fatass most of my life (21 now) and when i was 18 i took EC stack for about six months and for the only...

Ok i've been a fatass most of my life (21 now) and when i was 18 i took EC stack for about six months and for the only time in my life, it became easy to lose weight. I lost about 70 lbs on EC and i felt amazing all the time, i felt smarter, cooler, happier, etc the whole time i was on it, truly life changing. anyway about six months in i decided i had lost enough weight and i went off it, i experienced the most horrible depression i had ever felt in my life and i couldn't feel happiness for a good year after i stopped taking it. it's been a few years now and i'm fat again (although my brain and mood has recovered to pre-crash levels) and i tried taking EC stack again about a week ago and i feel absolutely nothing, no appetite suppression, no improved intelligence, no improved mood, nothing. I have taken it at full dose a week now and i still fell nothing, can any chemistry or neurology fags tell me why this is? has my body/brain adjusted to the drug and it will never work again? is there something i can take to make it work? why did it make me so depressed when i came off it? is there anything similar i can take that will have a similar effect? I really need to lose some weight

anyway i recommend EC stack to anyone looking to shed some fat, it worked really well for me just watch out for that crash and don't take too much

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Just put down the fork.

You might have depression

im trying

i've been happy my whole life and i'm happy now, coming off ec made me feel super depressed for the only time in my life, so i think it was the drug. i've read similar stuff with people who take adderall but idk if its the same

bump

last bump 4 help

could it be seasonal? caffeine and stims does fuck all for my winter depression but when the weather is nice i feel great no matter what.

are you still losing weight?

no my mood is good year-round now, im pretty sure it was the drug that caused the depression, but i've gotten fat and im still gaining weight, i want to know why the ephedrine and caffeine no longer work to help me lose weight

its funny that you would recommend it but judging by what the aftereffects were it sounds like you shouldnt touch that shit at all.
What did the trick for me was finding a snack that is healthy and that i love(Tomato, mozarella and some processed chicken salad)
Whenever i am hungry but i shouldnt eat a big meal i just go for one of those and im full for 400kcals.

Know your habits, break them or live with them.

ephedrine is a mid-level stimulant that causes increased levels of norepinephrine by conversion of dopamine to norepinephrine and is a mild MAO inhibitor (increases serotonin, norepinephrine, dopamine concentration), and emulates the effect of adrenaline

likely by taking it so long you caused downregulation of norepinephrine in your brain, so when you stopped you had less. that'd make you feel tired and lethargic and so on. but i dont know, epinephrine acts on a lot of different things so i dont know what other damage it could have caused by long term use (probably not much)

also the caffeine crash would likely cause a lot of problems too, you were probably immensely addicted to caffeine at that point

as for why it's not working now, maybe it is and you don't feel it. are you exercising?

you shouldnt be taking ephedrine for the euphoric/stim/manic effect.

what this user said is absolutely true. the biggest problem with how you took it is the duration. you used two powerful Beta-2 agonists and mild MAO inhibitors for half a year, and your body responded by making that your new baseline. EC stacks are fine to use, but any cutting supplement should not be used for as long as you used it for.

im trying to identify my habits and break them, i always eat too much when i snack

thank you based chemistry user, i am exercising now but i wasn't then, and it worked REALLY well back then, i would definitely feel it now but i feel absolutely no different

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Did that for a week (not for fat loss, but productivity), felt sorry for my heart which was working overload the entire time. Good call I guess as it seems to fuck up the brain too

is there anything i can do it make it work again? i haven't used it for several years, shouldn't i have rebuilt a sensitivity to it? i have taken it for a week now and feel absolutely no different than i usually do, although my heart rate is elevated, i still feel no appetite suppression or more energy, nothing.

we've established what it is, (stimulant abuse), question is what can we do to reverse it?
asking for a friend
>t. extremely depressed former meth addict

You have to let it go user. The road to recovery is long and hard but very, very worth it.

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I'm already fasting for weight loss and it's working out great for me. What do I take for that euphoric / stim / manic effect?

are the post-stack effects on your mood still present when you're not on the stack?

nope, not at all. i had never felt depression like that before or since.

You're addressing the wrong crowd buddy, if they had the willpower to eat nothing don't you think they'd have the willpower to eat less in general?

bump

Just use the ephedrine and make meth, guarantee you’ll feel something.

unironically how do i do this

and i really meant ironically government haha :^)

Hey here’s a thought stop eating like a fatass and you won’t be a fatass

I've been off the meth for like 5 years but was never really the same. I've smoked weed daily and always been sorta depressed since quitting the gear but last 2 months or so it's like constant suicidal thoughts and all round just really bad depression and it sucks and I want it to go away.
please advice.

You need to stop using all drugs and steroids, your brain chemistry and physiology did not evolve to withstand all of those. You need to not touch any drug, including weed, you need to eat very healthy and naturally (preferably all organic and grass-fed) and you need to exercise consistently. You need to work your brain, study mathematics and other languages, keep your head working well. You need to be around people who love you and you need to love them back. Do things that hurt and are difficult, they will make the rest of your time feel a lot better and invigorated. Get sunlight and fresh air. I promise you will feel infinitely better after doing all this, you should notice a difference immediately, but it may take a few months for everything to fall into place.

Stop taking all substances. Eat right and work out. Exercise your brain. Don't be lazy, do what is hard. Love and be loved. It's not easy, but the happiness and peace you will eventually feel will be very, very worth it.

Im not him but i think im going to kill myself in the next year or so. Im not even particularly sad and my life doesnt suck, im just kinda ready to go at this point.

Abusing substances has even lost its lustre. What should i do, lad? I got a ton of blood taken for lab tests today ordered by my psychiatrist so we’ll see if theres something chemically wrong that can be corrected, but what if everythings fine and this is just how i am?

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I think you're sick and need to heal, and since your life did not get this way overnight, nor will it be fixed overnight. You sound numb to me, you need to resensitize your body to the small, subtle joys of life that make it worth living. Work with your psychiatrist and try to find your way back to good mental health. and if everything within you is "fine" then maybe it's the things outside of you that are not, maybe you need to change your environment. Go to China or India, spend a year there, work little jobs, maybe stay in a monastery, do things like that. Your great happiness and purpose is out there, don't give up on it.

Im moving to a different state in a few months to resume doing what i love for work and ive been trying to immerse myself in drumming and reading, with exercise being the anchor holding me to life desu.

Why are you here, anyway? You seem like a good person.. Thanks for existing, bud.

I just realized I've been doing your diet for the past few months and have gained weight. So stfu. I use pseudoephedrine (same thing) for allergies and drink coffee all day. Also adderall in that mix hasn't helped either. I wouldn't take the allergie kill I didnt need to breathe.

I want you to know that I have been to an incredibly low place in my life, in debt, failing heart, a slave to drugs, and I have gotten as far as having the gun in my mouth. The slow progress and healing of time, the help of professionals and loved ones, a heart surgery and wife and children later, I have risen to such a level of happiness that I never knew in my whole life was possible, and if you had told me life could be this good I wouldn't have believed you. Health, fulfillment and happiness are all very possible, I am ashamed of my previous thoughts and actions but I feel like they belonged to a different person in a different existence. Don't ever give up the fight for your life, thank you and I look forward to when you make it friend.

Blehg. I learned to enjoy life too but I'm not a fag about it.
Why not kill yourself? Because you're already here and you might as well see how things work out. Theres no afterlife.

goddamn i hate athiests, you're such a stain on the human race

Religious person filled with hate. Go figure.

oh go spread your cheeks for mohammad to show everyone how "non hateful" you are you simp