Why do STEMfags get so brutally triggered by the Humanities, specially by Philosophy?

"The nerd...a person of inelegant and pedantic intelligence, often middling intelligence, who takes excessive pride in the intellect...in the memorization of facts, the design of clumsy concepts to which reality is..expected to fit like to bed of Procrustes."

>working
>/r9gay/
Nice meme

Ceron, por favor. Tienes 35 anos, cabron

>tfw STEMfag
>tfw absolutely enjoy humanities and am interested with philosophy, but only taking STEM because it looks better in the eyes of normalfags and potential employers
>also know that if I take humanities in an educational institution, it would absolutely ruin my experience by making everything forced and timely, completely ruining the point of humanities, especially philosophy and abstract thinking
Humanities actually allow you to think somewhat freely, depending on the humanity.
Philosophy is particularly fun (at least to me) and interesting because it let's you think timelessly, and optionally without much structure, and actually question things surrounding (or deeper than) the original question of, why does x happen? and than the original answer of, why does x happen?
However, institutions make it look bad because they try to cage it and milk money off of it by people who are interested, yet blind to how it's ruined.
STEM actually has structure to it and requires learning from institutions to get usual people knowing about it correctly enough.
But to answer the question, many STEMfags generally want to feel a superiority (in their own minds) over others due to insecurity or general lack of self-worth, self-esteem, jealousy/envy or otherwise like and try to reassure themselves with it.

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>Most STEMfags are basedcuck nerds.
basically this.
with a god complex they develop just because they're in stem.

Most STEMfags feel superior to humanities precisely because of the things you mentioned: Actually working infrastructure and existent job market. What makes STEMfags ree when it comes to humanities is when phisolophyfags and the like act like they're on equal grounds or even better than STEMfags and see themselves as fellow academics instead of victims of a glorified pyramid scam.

STEM
>objective evidence and deductive reasoning

Humanities
>My vagina has a voice and plants have feelings

At least they didn't fall for the trades meme and get their job obsoleted by machines.

Proof that women ruined yet another thing invented my men that was once worthwhile and not a joke.

STEMfag here. I appreciate the traditional humanities (history, anthropology philosophy, archeology, philosophy, etc), I do not however appreciate courses with zero academic merit that have been put under the humanities umbrella (David Beckham studies, Beyonce feminism, critical whiteness studies, critical gender studies, etc). It is just pointless to get a humanities degree unless you are so wealthy you will never have to work, because there are so many sources where you can self study these topics without becoming unemployable and littered with debt. At the end of the day universities are paying for a piece of paper certifying you studied a field, nothing more.

>and get their job obsoleted by machines.
oh look it's the urgoingtobereplacedbymachines-fag, again.

Because STEM is overblown and they know it.
Units are packed with STEM postgrads that cant find a job

This guy is fairly honest AND oblivious all at once.
STEM are the Feminists of Uni.
>They tell everyone else only they have Figured It All Out
>they claim to be superior to all others
>they claim their path is superior
>they refuse to acknowledge that they are dependent on others
To a STEM major a happy Philosophy grad is just like a happy stay at home mom with 9 healthy kids is to a Feminist

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>deductive reasoning comes from STEM
>objectivity is exclusive to STEM

Brainlet please

>or even better than STEMfags and see themselves as fellow academics instead of victims of a glorified pyramid scam.
Generally any [insert major]fag who thinks they're better than someone else is a a bit of a dick.
I actually think philosophyfags are ok, but I pity them for falling for such a scam.
It shouldn't have even been tried to make philosophy look like a good degree in a job market because it's just not, yet unis/colleges are ok with doing this because they get money off of it.

Nowadays, philosophy should have it's own institution, as big or small as it is/should be, that actually allows them to do what they need to, thinking and questioning deeply and freely, rather than having them be milked of their money for their thought.It's been reduced to a laughing stock now.
Should be run off of donations or maybe, dare I say, state-funded.
Sort of like churches, but for philosophy.

Bottom line is, philosophy shouldn't even exist in current, money-hungry unis/colleges.

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I fuckin love guys like you!
>I was into computers as a kid ages ago when they were rare
>Joined the army, got to use cutting edge tech as part of my MOS
>got out and was a warranty tech with HP, got heavily trained.
>Moved to IBM, more training and experience
>IBM realizes I have no degree, cannot promote me further without one. Manager authorizes tuiton coverage for me, any degree. I go nights, weekend to program I can get fastest in those slots at local school. Really enjoy it, immediately start Masters in same field while working at Dell as a manager of engineers
Now I am a senior IT manager at a Fortune 20 company. We bring in interns from places like Georgia Tech every Summer, all working on STEM degrees.
I meet with them, talk about my background and experience, and one *always* asks about my degree
>I have a Masters in Catholic Theology
The look on their faces!! Every time!

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>STEM
>>objective evidence and deductive reasoning
Where do you think the concept of objectivity/subjectivity and deductive reasoning come from, smart one?
answer: philosophy
Sure STEM uses it, but non-stem isn't just stupid turbo-feminist shit.
this.

...that kid from HS that gave you swirlies is now a Mercedes driving plumber and you are an intern, right?

I get triggered by psychology because those faggots always try to act like it's part of STEM. I can understand some people hating philosophy majors if they pretend like it's above STEM like some youtubers do.

One
>not grasping that ALL of university is a scam, effectively
Two
>not knowing that a huge number of PhiloFags are covered by churches or foundations

>senior IT manager at a Fortune 20 company
>I have a Masters in Catholic Theology
>The look on their faces!! Every time!
STEMFAGS BLOWN THE FUCK OUT!
But you did get kinda lucky to be born in that time and head to the military where you get trained there, considering people view military training stuff as high ranking.
How often do you think people get into situations like you did though?

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>not grasping that ALL of university is a scam, effectively
Yeah but STEMfags get the best deal out of the scam, imo.
I mean, try to get somewhere without even a stem degree or enough, usually extensive, training to get recognized without a degree, and see what comes out of your attempts.
>not knowing that a huge number of PhiloFags are covered by churches or foundations
>are
Were, user, were. Now barely anyone cares about it aside from literal boomers and a very small amount of people.
Heck you can read basic philosophy concepts online, or if you're extreme, take a few philosophy courses and then organize a group online and meet with them to talk about it somewhere.

It varies. A lot of our top people started off with certification from a manufacturer like HP or RedHat and then worked IT help desks, then did other things. Half of the managers at Dell got their Bachelors like I did, mid-career.
If I could convince HR to ditch the
>must have four year degree
bullshit I could get better entry-level people, frankly

Unless you are in a top 1/3rd STEM school, in the right program/major, and get the right internships you are far, FAR, better off with a Business degree than STEM

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>and get the right internships
what the fuck is that?
I'm asking this non-rhetorically because as a robot I can't/don't socialize and don't know what the fuck that is or how to get.

It's no longer STEM
Now it's STEAM
the A means arts so that you can feel included too

I went to uni to study Maths, but one of my housemates did Philosophy. I was never once triggered by it; in fact, it was nice to hear about new ways to think of things while we were smoking joints and whatnot. Ultimately, I don't think people care if you only go to uni for the social aspect - people care if you're fun, not if you're on the right course.

Doesn't mean most of my friends weren't Maths nerds like me.

Remember that STEM actually includes some bullshit majors as well (Psychology and Technology, etc.) . That's where all of these STEM majors that can't do shit come from. I have never seen an electrical engineering major not find a uber good job pretty much immediately.

That is where you are accepted to work, usually for free, at a company while still in uni.
Most suck, but a few can help you get a job

Yeah! From the BLS
>if all STEM fields Computer Science is best with *almost half* of CompuSci majors working in their field of study
That is it? So when they sat
>OOOOOH!! STEM pays so much!!
They mean
>...to the 1 in 10 who get jobs in STEM
???

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>bullshit majors like Technology
>only Techbology majors have a decent chance at a job in their field

Can you help me land an IT desk entry level job?

Serious question. Willing to work my way up as I've been running in place in STEM and rather learn hands on.

Contemplating joining the military but am 26 and right under Air Force cutoff.

"Psychology and Technology" is the name of the major i was referring to user. It's and actual degree in my uni (Technical uni) and all the ppl i know that are taking it are literal morons.

How much experience do you have with actual tech? You might have to pay for a certification course and test.
Microsoft is low hanging fruit; RedHat is better.

...I wish I could know you were planking me, but the world needs a cleansing fire

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Stem jobs bring in money.
Philosophy brings in the ez lays with dumb college women who think ur deep.
Hence why low level chads hang around in college forever with a meme degree.

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We have an even meme-ier one - Sustainable Inovation. A friend of mine failed it and got kicked out of uni lmao.
But in all seriousness, the only STEM majors guaranteed to take u places are the actual engineering degrees - namely Electrical and Mechanical eng. The others are a gamble at best and CS is a meme degree at this point.

Building pcs, phone/laptop repairs, windows/linux/mac os familiarity. Some limited programming knowledge, the usual stuff. I'm security minded, thinking of trying to get those certs too.

No certs yet though. I could start them now. Redhat and microsoft certs or just redhat is fine?

Why is cs a meme degree now?

>electrical engineering
Lol
Per BLS less than 15% of grads with an EE degree get a job in their field and they have the second-lowest Engineering wages
Lowest wages?
>mechanical engineers

Solid.
RedHatis better. CISSP if you can

Cuz everyone is going for it falling for the "world needs more computer specialists" meme and end up working as a basic programming bot if at all.

I don't know where u live user, I'm assuming America from these numbers. But here in Europe, if u manage to graduate EE, u are set for life. It's extremely difficult major and has one of the lowest passing rates but is always in demand and a respected job. If u do masters as well u are set for life.
t. My sister is graduating masters EE this year and companies she has had dealings with before are already offering her jobs at senior positions with >4K starting salary and a metric butt ton of benefits.

Will try. Any way to keep in touch? Discord server maybe?

No self doxxing here ofc

wtf does basedcuck mean

Mate, people with a philosophy degree end up as neets

Yea I think STEM being a meme mostly applies to america, because education in general is a meme there.

I don't know. I don't. I've honestly never given it much thought. Uni/work is fucking all-consuming...

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because they don't do anything but read and write and think they can undo the entire universe.

meanwhile STEM fags have to read and write, and conduct experiments using equipment/chemicals/animals/etc. and use some kind of math at least statistical analyses but make something of their results.

t. STEM fag with philosophy minor.

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>"Psychology and Technology"

what is this? it's not like theirs psych labs with psych lab techs...is there?

It's basic psychology oriented for tech - i.e. Subjects are shit like "consumer behavior", "social behavioral psych in tech" , etc. And some basic STEM subjects like programming (java). This and sustainable innovation share a common degree i think and it's total bullshit. Only ppl who cant/dont want to do actual engineering choose these (but then why do u even go to uni lmao).

Because people on this bored think college actually does anything but in reality the only thing that matters is your skill but most autists don't have intelligence and make up for it with degrees

because they're autistic and cannot understand anything unless it's directly related to science or maths

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This thread screams of desperation..

Yikes

I minored in philosophy because the classes were piss easy and you never had homework.

>"help I can't get job with humanities degree"
>"HA I took STEM degree and I get job!"
because whoever can imply OP fucked up first wins the Jow Forums

Because a lot of people studying STEM subjects, especially engineering, have little passion or interest in their work. They do what they do for a big paycheck or because their parents chose a major for them.

I have a meme degree and am currently in a good graduate program to earn a meme PhD. My prospects in academia will be limited, and I'll be lucky to make $80,000 per year within a few years of finishing. I don't care, though, because I actually like what I do--it has let me travel extensively, live overseas and research issues I find fascinating. Some of my colleagues are obnoxious liberal faggots (I'm fairly liberal myself, but my discipline can be over-the-top at times), but I'm still happy that I switched out from STEM in my early twenties.

I think the problem a lot of other social sciences and humanities fags have is that they're not willing to be realistic. You will not get a relevant, well-paid job with a bachelor's in psychology, social work or anthropology--however, there are numerous opportunities in each of those disciplines with a master's or doctorate.

Can't speak for useless shit like Race Relations and Film Studies, though. I don't know what would compel someone to study such topics--even if you get a PhD, you probably won't get a job unless your degree is from a top-ranked university and you've gotten named on numerous publications.

What kind of fucking moron would actually pay for a degree in philosophy when you could just study that BS on the side?

What kind of fucking moron would actually pay for a degree when you could just study that BS on the side?

>implying people with physics, chemistry, and biology bachelors' degrees can get jobs
>implying humanities degrees aren't needed for management, social work, technical writing, consulting, translation/interpretation, public relations, HR, etc.

>implying formal logic isn't the very core of modern philosophy

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>management
>humanities
It's the trust fund kids majoring in business who go into management, humanities degree will only get you a job managing "do you want fries with that?" people.

there are far more math and programming courses available online than there are humanities courses

That's proly cuz there is a lot of actual useful stuff to be learned there (STEM) and there is demand?

no, that's because learning STEM is literally
>memorize the theory
>do exercises
repeat ad infinitum

meanwhile when it comes to humanities you need to be guided by someone with experience if you wanna become an expert, since reading random books will get you nowhere

That is one of the rare moments I read a post on Jow Forums and find it well thought out.
Also a fan of philosophy, while on my 3rd year of engineering degree. Life feels great.

I don't know a single person that has gotten anywhere with majoring humanities. Everyone around me is into STEM and are moderately successful at the very least. Also depending on what u are doing, "just learning the theory" is not an easy process. U have to put in effort and have a brain to wrap it around this theory. Otherwise u can't do shit.

Continentals a shit

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>I don't know a single person that has gotten anywhere with majoring humanities. Everyone around me is into STEM and are moderately successful at the very least
succesful how? making money is not the be-all and end-all of human existence

>U have to put in effort and have a brain to wrap it around this theory. Otherwise u can't do shit.
this is true for literally any activity ever

It's less like being triggered and more like cold disdain for subhumans. That's not exclusive to humanities though.
t. Math major

why are all stemfags such fedoras

I just like autistic things like aerodynamics and suspension systems so I did stem. It's hard but I want to keep trying

Because STEMfags fail to realise STEM is actually insanely easy. All you have to do is learn and regurgitate a chain of rules. There is no critical thinking required, all you have to do is follow a fucking textbook lmao.
Humanities, on the other hand, teach things that really matter. A lot of individual thinking is needed to excel in these fields. No textbook will enable you to do well in humanities.

Just because you're able to repeat what a textbook tells you to do, doesnt mean it makes you any smarter bud.

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>succesful how? making money is not the be-all and end-all of human existence
it absolutely isn't, you're right. but it is the key factor in being able to experience the variety of experiences that make life worth living. without much money, you're resigned to only caring about the next paycheck and lacking the ability to pursue many fun activities outside of work.

Should I go in computer science, Anons? Im kinda scared.

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Sounds like you went to a shitty university.

Because most of them were forced either by the amount of money they are told they can make or by their parents to go STEM. Humanities fags went there of their own accord.

Lolwat? Humanities majors at my university pretty regularly get jobs at big corporations. There's no undergrad business degree at most top unis.
Technically we have a third-year management option, but you have to do two years of something legit first, and they only take ~50 people per year.

Alright go ahead.

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>tell stemfag im a poli sci major
>they freak out
>B-B-B-BUT MUH MAFFS!!! MUH CODINGS!!!
You're right, it's better to work for slave wages at Amazooglebooksoftpple writing code no one will ever care about than getting a decent, secure job in government with benefits and pension.

stemfags are insufferable

both are fine. i just prefer stem because it gave me immediate job opportunities

>lol uhhhhhh don't you want to get a jawb right out of college?
>here read this magazine article that says im guaranteed to make 100k/yr right after graduation
>What does entry-level mean?

what are some other funny phrases stemfags say?

>be me
>study math
>everyone is a normal, well adjusted person
>take a mandatory humanities elective
>teacher is a self identified marxist
>half the women in the class are obese and/or have shaved heads
>one student litterally started crying because she got a C on her essay
>"I'm usually pro free speach but I wouldn't mind banning this racist book from schools" (in reference to Heart of Darkness)
>lectures have to start with disclaimers so that studies don't litterally commit suicide durring class
Jesus christ, I used to think the liberal art school memes were just memes. Going into a humanities class is like stepping into the bizzaro world.

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At least STEMfags give back to society. Any faggot can pursue humanities as a hobby but working in a lab or as an engineer takes actual proficiency

>lectures have to start with disclaimers so that studies don't litterally commit suicide durring class
lmao that's the funniest shit.

productivity is a meme created by those who would squeeze you as a lemon for your labor. true virtue is to follow your intellectual path and find greater clarity. history is slow.

>There is no critical thinking required, all you have to do is follow a fucking textbook lmao.
top kek

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I don't exactly get triggered by humanities, however I personally see them as an useless waste of time (for myself).
Art, Philosophy, Law, Economy, politics and so on... are nothing but fictional concepts created by human society to explain or control its own state. Art and culture follows temporary trends, political systems change and the current philosophy is influenced and determined by the current challenges of a society and its individuals. Science on the other hand is eternal. The universe worked the way it does long before we even thought of not throwing our poop at each other and will work in the same way long after we cease existing. Our main goal should be dedicated to the decryption of the mystery's of physics instead of doing some lesser things that are only real/ that only matter because the majority of society says they do. (Especially politics and economy, the two biggest blockades against scientific progress)

>That is one of the rare moments I read a post on Jow Forums and find it well thought out.
>Also a fan of philosophy, while on my 3rd year of engineering degree. Life feels great.
I'm glad to see a fellow patrician among us.

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>Our main goal should be dedicated to the decryption of the mystery's of physics instead of doing some lesser things that are only real/ that only matter because the majority of society says they do. (Especially politics and economy, the two biggest blockades against scientific progress)
>mfw I read that
And yet you don't realize that those same fictional concepts are what's keeping humanity together so we don't go back to throwing shit at each other, except now armed with highly advanced weaponry, and other things created by science, instead of shit.

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honestly if you're going to reference this way and that you might as well use hyperlinks

Not the same user.
I'm currently a majoring in Computer science and physics, I already got a good position in a company and earn 5-6 k per month at the start.
Now I got this chance only because of my internships, they are far more important than the actual degree because they give you the possibility to build connections of people who work in the higher ups of a company.
Why am I telling you this?
simple, people who work in humanities are often times as the other user said "Trust fund kids", in other words, they come from an already wealthy family who established the necessary connections one needs before they were even born.