Is Amazon a great place to work? Might be heading down Bezo way

Is Amazon a great place to work? Might be heading down Bezo way.

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They are about to make peiple work in mini-cages and delivery boys use piss bottles

I'm actually shocked that people like Bezos don't just get killed by angry poor people. You have a high percentage of people in a supposedly 1st world country struggling to afford food, and living paycheck to paycheck. Meanwhile you have obscenely rich people like Bezos who make more money in a day than the average person will see in a lifetime of hard work. How society allows this and doesn't just correct by lethal force will never cease to amaze me.

15 smackeroos an hour says otherwise!.... I never finished college :(

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Trouble is, you'll have to compete for the job with all the other poor sobs who think $15/hour is a lot of money. Many of them even have college degrees in useful things like women's studies.

>How society allows this and doesn't just correct by lethal force will never cease to amaze me.
The system is made perfectly user. It's the beauty of capitalism. Why would you only want to control the financial mobility of the population when you can control their minds and hearts.
Most of the poor people you speak of are brainwashed. They'll laugh at you if you tell them their being bamboozled. They make for good slaves. Terrible people.

The rest of us are stuck. Getting jobs that pay in the mid-late teens an hour.

The thing is. I'm not even in a bad spot financially. I'd use the parable of a boat with a very very small hole that gets water into it. Sure, I'm dry now. But I can't be a lazy NEET forever.
Sooner or later I'm going to get wet. I'll always have to come back to the system for another boast of Ben Franklins.

You're considering working in a wage cage to stay afloat in your sinking ship. Like said, the poor don't realize they're being screwed by society. Otherwise they'd vote or use other means to change the system, since they outnumber the rich 100 to 1.

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oh they realize it. but a lot of America still has a sense of shame and wants to believe that they're earning their keep somehow instead of just taking, or threatening to take, what they want by raw political or physical violence. You can tell by how its impolite in much of Europe to ask what someone does for a living, whereas in America that's the first thing mentioned when you meet someone. A lot of Americans don't identify with a socioeconomic class, they identify with their job.

That and even the Bernouts would shy away from a real battle-in-the-streets revolution. The modern middle class has too much to lose, compared to (for instance) the Russians in the 1910s.

To answer your question, OP, an Amazon warehouse is pretty shit work, but everything I've heard is that if you can pass a drug test, they take you, especially for the holiday rush.

Bezos is the argument I use to oppose gun control, frankly. The government does not have a monopoly on coercion and tyranny.

I worked there as a software engineer. Nothing special.

Worked at amazon a for 5 months last year, lemme give you some greentext goodness

Pros:
>Get fit very fast
>Amazon Discount
>Get to see anime-girl head blowjob dolls (I'm not joking. You see them rarely, but they are there)
>A clear hierarchy to climb
> Actually some of the best and cheapest benefits I have ever seen. My MAX payment in medical was $2k with a $400 deductible before amazon paid 90%. $30 bucks every paycheck. worth.
>New site openings = paid move + advancement
>4 Day workdays
>If you aren't trash you get trained everywhere

As a neutral point amazon work experiences vary dramatically site to site. Some produce the horror stories you see on the news while others are fine.

Cons
>10hr workdays, mandatory overtime up to 70 hours a week
>Every. single. thing. you. do. is. timed. Well almost, but if you are directly handling product every step you take is scanned and timed
>Managers must write up 5 people a day during holidays
>Extremely high turnover to where I was a veteran at 3 months.
>99% chance you will be fired. When I worked there I was one of 3 people who gave 2 weeks notice. Everyone else I knew got fired.
>50-50 split on PTO and Unpaid time off. Unpaid maxes at 60 hours for a year. It sounds like a lot but for example if you are 1 minute late you have to use an entire hour block of unpaid time off. Or you can burn your PTO which you can use minute by minute. Also if you reach 0 hours unpaid you have 24 hours to put an hour into it or you are fired.
>You will be working with ghetto / white trash.
>If you're a direct role you will stand for 9 hours, indirect you will walk up to 15+ miles a day. I'm, not even joking here.
>For first week your knees will lock up from the pain. Again, not joking. it's insane.
>THIS PART IS ESSENTIAL : You will be required to handle a steadily increasing amount of product. If you don't make the cut you will eventually be fired.

And now you know Amazon.

That makes the 9th circle of hell sound like a walk in the park. No wonder nobody lasts more than 3 months. It almost makes me want to quit buying stuff from Amazon, but they're so cheap and easy and I'm a horrible person.

>but they're so cheap and easy and I'm a horrible person.
Is everybody that uses Amazon (or even pays for Amazon Prime) a horrible person?

It seems like the cons outweigh the pros.

Using Amazon is like having a gift sent to you, even though you paid for the products.

Not necessarily, but I can afford to buy from places who treat their workers like human beings, and yet I still make Bezos rich while people like suffer so that I can save a few bucks.

I can also afford to do so, but I decided I don't care enough about people I don't know working in a warehouse somewhere to spend any extra money.

>I still make Bezos rich
Bezos' finances have nothing to do with your decisions.

It's efficiency capitalism at it's finest! But hey I can't really blame you for it. If you can get a high quality dragon dildo there on the cheap then why not. Most of us are too poor to afford anything else.
Bonus QA: Why do you get a HUGE box for your tiny object?
>Because we can only upsize a box. If the sizing was done wrong we literally can not ship you the thing in a smaller box, the computer scanners will reject it.

This is true. I will say though that for a short stint there (3 months) it pays well enough to be a job between jobs and the Pros outwiegh the cons. Also they do offer raises every 6 months. This is a ruse as 98% of people who walk through the door wont make it to that 6 months.

Maybe not directly, but they do in aggregate. We have the power to vote with our wallets and improve the working conditions of our fellow man, but I and millions of other horrible people like me do nothing and let this continue.

How is is even sustainable when so many new people come in and a bunch of people get replaced?

>How is is even sustainable when so many new people come in and a bunch of people get replaced?

I've read that they use employment agencies to find the bodies, and the agencies just recycle people who've already been fired once.

You're right that any commutable distance around one of their facilities contains a finite number of potential applicants for such a shit job.

Yea we're fucked since the fairness doctrine was repealed and a generation of people was weaned on Fox News. Also 24 hr news is bad in general. It's motivating me to get my life together so il be valuable when the USA actually goes to shit and I won't be left to die in the streets.

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I guess I got my hopes up for nothing. The higher the wage the more zany the job.

They put themselves near cities with high unemployment / poverty so enough people take the bait. Prior to all this negative PR if someone said they worked at amazon you'd be like NICE! That said these buildings do occasionally get rare people who last more than a year. In my building of 4000 I counted about 12 people like that.

Also what said. They use a employment agencies and "temp" agencies. If you thought working for amazon itself was bad, working for the temps are worse. You are considered "disposable" by the management. It created an underclass in my building where those poor fucks were the first to be blamed and fired. Also they don't get any benefits and their healthcare sucks. ONLY benefit is if management likes you enough you can be promoted to a full time amazon slave!

Well the fairness doctrine and the first amendment don't really go together, the supreme court waved it through because of the limited number of stations. That hardly describes today's TV environment.

Thanks for the write up user. I work a shitty warehouse job right now and was curious how work at Amazon was. Personally most of those cons sound like basic warehouse work to me.
The long time on your feet, heavy product, and we're also timed where I work at as well. Only difference is we aren't treated like shit, don't have mandatory OT, and don't have managers looking for reasons to fire us.

Think I'll pass on them. I don't think I've ever heard anyone with a success story when they worked at Amazon. Only horror stories.

I mentioned this in another thread recently, but even putting aside Amazon's business practices, I'd still highly recommend not using Amazon anymore. I *did* stop using Amazon in protest against their labor conditions and blatantly monopolistic behavior (that's another thing: those low prices won't last forever. Once Amazon finishes growing its massive market share it's going to jack prices up), but I've found it's actually made shopping more enjoyable. Amazon makes it to easy to find whatever; you end up not getting that special feeling you get when you find something niche or unique, or enjoying the fun of the hunt, and you end up appreciating the things you buy a lot less because of it. And it's not nearly as much of an inconvenience as you'd think, unless you live in a rural area.

Hey no problem user. Also yea, some cons are basic but a lot of people go in clueless. I've worked a freezer warehouse too. My advice; don't do it either, it fucking sucked.

>Once Amazon finishes growing its massive market share it's going to jack prices up
I'm not so sure. One, their business is built on volume. Low prices raise volume. Two, shareholders have been pretty remarkable silent about the lack of current profits - not that Jeff really needs to go back to them to raise more capital, he has plenty. Three, they're not just a first-party seller, they're a platform for other people to sell shit. If Amazon won't sell cheap, other people will sell cheap on Amazon, who'll get their tiny cut.

and good for you if you found other places you enjoy shopping, but I don't really enjoy shopping. Buying things is stressful to me and I put it off, even when its easy. I don't buy because I want to find something unique and special, I buy stuff either because I have a need for something, or because I've already been agonizing over it for weeks and finally decided that yes, I do really want an X badly enough to pay for it. I don't really just browse looking for something serendipitously delightful. (when I have, I haven't found such things often, either at Amazon or at any other retailer)

No period is perfect, but it is better now than it has ever been, materially speaking. The poorest in the United States, besides the homeless, have it better than ever. High percentage as compared to what?

Think of ALL the people employed by Amazon and the goods and services provided by the business. Amazon is ubiquitous and a very successful company. There's a difference between rent-seeking and what a guy like Bezos is doing. That being said, Bezos engages in some questionable practices, but it could be worse.

You're model of society is what happened in the Soviety Union, China, Vietnam, Cambodia, Africa and South American. It always turns to shit. You can loot from the bread maker, but then your society doesn't have enough bread after a while.

I'm not advocating for violence at all, I'm just surprised that it isn't happening. With millions upon millions of people living in poverty, it's hard to believe that more of them haven't snapped.

a.) they have a lot more bread and circuses than places where revolutions have happened
b.) it's easier to crush an attempted revolution these days. Look at Syria.

They called Russia in to mop up. Is there anything left to fight over now?

Wagie wagie get in cagie
AIl day long you sweat and ragie
NEET is comfy
NEET is cooI
NEET is free from work and school
Wagie trapped and wagie dies
NEET eats tendies sauce and fries

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>Yea we're fucked since the fairness doctrine was repealed
what is that and why are we fucked?

The world used to be fair. Then a bunch of assholes decided they didn't want to be fair, so now life is unfair.