Unpopular and controversial opinions and beliefs thread

the world would improve dramatically if all men were bi and had casual sex with each other instead of ruining women by devirginizing them outside of marriage

Thank you for your wisdom
how are you so sure that we are god having a human experience?

nope, anything you think is original or has never been thought of before has been thought of before and done

to our knowledge and forseeable calculations, there have already been one-hundred-and-seven-billion people in existence, in around ~100 years or so that number will grow close to ~120 ish billion people since the majority of the currently existing 7.6 billion people will die, so just mathematically, there have already been hundreds, thousands, hundreds of thousands, possibly even millions tens of millions or even hundreds of millions of people who have not just had the same thoughts as you, but the same life experiences as you, and maybe even the same near-exact upbringing and life as you no matter how bizarre or out of the ordinary you may think it is, anything you think you think you've thought of was in fact taken from 1 or many different people or places and those places you think you're the only one who's been to have been visited by others

we are not special, we are not original, and we are not alone
>Disagree because I'm getting around to just trying to lesser the impact in every way I can so it doesn't hurt my parents.
this is actually just another excuse and you being lazy, for if you really desired to solve this issue by dedicating your will, and if you focused and dedicated your entire life into this issue you would at least find a way to solve it

in fact, many times we already know what we have to do in order to solve our issues but we just ignore it or push it to the back of our heads and pretend like we're victims to gain sympathy from others so we can make ourselves feel better or artificially inflate our perceived value when in reality things aren't the way we may think they are
i never said i was deep, i never invoked any authority, and i never implied i had esoteric knowledge, in fact you can see other people in this thread agreeing with me, but thank you for saying my ideas at least qualify as being woke

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cuz ive experienced enlightment or oneness for a few minutes before and was mega psyched that when you transcend the false self and unite with the infinite, you see reality for what it truly is, and that is GOD.

when you say god do you mean the god of abraham?

What a dumb fucking nigger I can tell you are a NEET retard because you think scamming is good yeah you're cool bro you can scam some CSGO skins. Now try that in real business and I'll laugh at you when the Feds take you to get gangraped in prison

If I'm God then he's a lazy pussy bitch boy

>I am or wish a scammer so I can make easy money and not feel bad
>I don't understand politics
>I recognize the brain is like other parts of the body, but don't understand it can have deformities or imperfections like other parts that can be treated
>I claim to be scientific, but disagree with biochemists and neurologists on the effects of medication for the brain
>No one has ever been kind to me
>lel I'm a myopic solipsist
>I'm so cool, I never complain about anything
>I can't recognize that some problems are out of my control

There's a reason why your opinions are unpopular OP, it's because you're an idiot. The only things I'll grant you is that psychology is terrible and not as interested in curing mental illness as it purports to be. Also yeah, a lot of people are lazy and don't want to fix their problems, sure, but I disagree that it's the the root of everyone's problems.

hmm, yes this would reduce the sexual and sociological marketplace value of women and finding a partner

what about the reiko approach + eugenics, so say if all genetically inferior men were gay and encouraged or even forced to take hormones and castrate themselves and become as feminine as possible to be given as women to other genetically inferior men etc? also have all deformed children identified and aborted or killed upon birth to protect the gene pool of the human race

population reduction is a big thing we have to commence
no problem
i actually don't scam anyone and have never scammed anyone in my life, but i have been scammed, and i realized that i actually deserved it

you sound like someone who was scammed or knows someone you care about who has been scammed and are butthurt as a result of not coming to terms with reality

if i ever got arrested by the feds, i would deserve it for being stupid and not playing my cards right, thankfully, i'm not a retard and always play my cards right by not commiting any crimes i could get caught for in the first place

but, if i ever did hypothetically commit a crime or become a career criminal, nobody would catch me, because i would use publicly available techniques (OPSEC) straight from the training courses of intelligence officers in intelligence agencies such as the CIA and the general military and intelligence community and do anything and everything it would take to make sure my tracks were covered

tell me, do you really think every news article or documentary you see about crimes which have been committed, or that every documented crime is every crime that has ever happened in the history of humanity? do you think, that outside the public propoganda of law enforcement agencies that there are no crimes?

i would like you to really take a moment to stop and think about just how many crimes are being committed now, and how many nobody even knows about
whatever you say

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You dumb nigger I live in a town where cocaine is rampant every week there is a shooting or other serious incident. There's police everywhere marked and unmarked don't tell me how many crimes are committed every day. After hanging out with coke and weed dealers every day I can confidently say they all get caught in the end. And you are so naive it hurts. You think you can follow public information released by the security services to cover up crimes as if they put billions into these agencies but they just use the same methods they released to the public. If you are so smart start scamming. I know guys who scammed millions in tax fraud and now wanted by Interpol and can never go back home. But good luck because you're a master criminal.

no i mean infinite consciousness my man

The way to happiness for all is through artificially simulated universes for every human being that provides a complex narrative that they are unaware of which grants them unending and infinitely varying forms of pleasure, even if that means simulating certain distresses so that it leads to an even greater happiness. Humans must be separate from one another in order grants happiness of equal measure to each person and to prevent the pain and boredom of losing your attachment to those you love over time.

>Free Will and Agency are memes.
>Being male sucks. We die more often and are generally less happy than females.
>We would be better off with no countries. Just have the world government run by distant technocrats.
> Dr. Pepper is objectively superior to all other drinks.
> Alcohol should be illegal.

>anything that is unpopular is automatically false because the majority believes it to be true
a hundred years ago, you were in the minority if you believed that god didn't exist and you shouldn't burn people at the stake in the name of christ for having seizures because they were demonically possessed, and people, like you now, would call them retarded for not having the popular opinion, the only reason why my opinion is not popular is because in present date it has not become the majority opinion, as is every other unpopular opinion, mathematically speaking, eventually every unpopular opinion will become popular at one point
>The only things I'll grant you is that psychology is terrible and not as interested in curing mental illness as it purports to be.
i wasn't asking anything from you
>Also yeah, a lot of people are lazy and don't want to fix their problems, sure, but I disagree that it's the the root of everyone's problems.
nope, it is, the only reason why anyone has any of their problems is because they refuse to take the necessary time, effort, dedication, focus, willpower and work into it

many years ago syphillis was a big problem people thought they had, everyone said "maaaa this isn't our fault it's impossible to fix this you just have to deal with it ::((" but then someone got off their lazy sick asses and did something about it and fucking invented a cure

literally if you want to fucking distort time and space itself and destroy the planet you can do that by creating a motherfucking black hole with a particle accelerator, you can do anything including changing or finding ways to change reality, but you just don't wanna do it because you're lazy and you wanna cry about it instaed, which will get you nowhere and do absolutely nothing for you, actually you are stupid for doing so because it raises stress which in turn has been shown to damage and even kill your brain cells so you could say that people who complain are braindamaged

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You want what you don't have, it's not subjectively better, you can get what you want but your brain will adjust and it will become normal and you will seek something else.

Essentially there is no super happiness, yes some people are happier than others, no doubt, but generally levels of happiness of most people are pretty similar.

Robots on here think that they have the worst life, little do they know people with wife and kids and responsibilities would trade with them in a flash.

>waaa there are people who do things i don't like and stuff is bad
>waaaa i deserve everything from the universe
>waaaa waa waa feel sorry for me
>waaa i don't wanna do anything about it
>waaa i can't do anything about anything :((
hahaha, you are stupid and are actually the naive one for thinking that you are special or that you deserve anything from life

anyways, since you literally cannot read because of how dumb you are, i don't commit any crimes and i do not plan to ever commit any crimes, and i never said i was an authority on career criminality, but if you actually think about it there are more crimes that have been commited and are being commited today that were never known, found out or prosecuted and there will be many which won't

do you know how easy it is to kill you and get away with murder?

even i, a layman can see you're hanging out with low IQ moronic amateurs who have no OPSEC, do not do what it takes to cover their tracks and are even so public about it that they invite other people into their personal space and openly talk about it and even flaunt it and commit petty crimes usually directly with no human proxies or little to no OPSEC at all and stay in 1 location and probably reveal and use their own identities everywhere they go, in fact i bet if they knew they were about to get caught they wouldn't even attempt to flee the country

anyways, those people who got caught are stupid and deserve to be caught just like you deserve to be poor and live in a shitty dope-fueled shithole and complain on the internet because you're too lazy and stupid to do anything about it

if you really wanted to, you could have every criminal in your area completely erradicated, clean up the area and find a way to amass enough funding to invest in your community and actually employ people and create opportunities completely eliminating the need for crime to be committed in the first place but you think that's impossible too

you are a part of the problem

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Oh I see. OP is Reiko, the tranny.

So you think your method will at all make a dent in the population by making men sterile? This shit won't have any impact in the countries that matter. The poor countries where overpopulation is the norm. You think your OPSEC is air tight but it isn't. You fail to realize the amount of exploits and far reaching hand of the NSA and CIA is. Your arrogance will be your downfall.

If you really wanted to curb population growth you'd mess with the food supply and water supply. Start dumping diluted xenoestrogens (birth control pills) into your municipal water supply and you might affect that municipality. Do so on a bigger scale and you'll slowly curb population growth.

You are still a faggot, a failed meme tranny and a cringe pseudo though.

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You're seriously going to still claim there is no validity to any science going into treatment into brain disorders? Are you really going to tell me things like antipsychotics and lithium have NO effect on the brain whatsoever? You are being willfully ignorant.

Also, got it, next time a drunk driver paralyzes someone I'll make sure to tell them they can't walk because they're just too lazy to get up.

Op is so fucking autistic it actually hurts, those JP spergs used to be funny, but now its getting annoying

> the brain is not actually the most important organ of the body

sounds a lot like what we're already experiencing now
agreed
not just wife kids and responsibilities, there are people in the depths of hell on earth i.e the slums of the central african republic, people who think they have responsibilities and problems are actually privileged to be able to even have them in the first place

anyways robots and everyone who has problems deserves to have problems and deserves to have everything bad in their life happen to them
haha, maybe, i don't go around shilling trap harems though, but the thought of it was nice, he actually visited me in a thread and offered to gift me a wife but i declined because i didn't want to go through the hassle of creating a discord since i'm not a faggot

i don't do any OPSEC and i never said anything was air tight, not everyone lives in the united states of america, you fail to realize that other countries in the world exist, but like everything you think i'm sure, your world view is small and restricted to your local conditioning, there are places in the world where you can commit any crime with ease and freely so, if you play your cards right, there will be no reprocussions, beacuse you've played your cards right, but if you haven't then you will experience consequences, just like anything, it's simple, cause and effect, so naturally if you are stupid and do stupid things or leave clues which is literally giving yourself away you will be caught

there are places in the usa that have little to no law enforcement presence and even places that have no laws
>If you really wanted to curb population growth
i don't want to curb population growth because i don't care, i need more people so that they can give me more money, i need more dumb people like you in the world that will believe the status quo because i survive off of people who believe in the status quo like you

also didn't edgy cringe culture die out years ago? ur a false perceived authority / critic btw

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OP doesnt have unpopular or controversial opinions he has stupid opinions

>stupid opinions
thats why they are unpopular

>You're seriously going to still claim there is no validity to any science going into treatment into brain disorders?
when did i say this? i said mental illness, mental illnesses are not a brain disorder, and i already told you there is no evidence for mental illness

a brain disorder is not the same thing as a mental illness, one is an actual physical illness that is treatable and curable and the other is madeup bullshit by some hippies throwing barbiturates and benzodiazepens at people with the help of mega pharmaceutical corporations
>Are you really going to tell me things like antipsychotics and lithium have NO effect on the brain whatsoever? You are being willfully ignorant.
you are twisting words around and being very retarded, i never said that they have no effect on the brain whatsoever, they are psychoactive drugs like any other psychoactive drug that is self-evident and obvious and is common sense, but just because something alters someones consciousness like a drug doesn't mean anything it just means their brain state has changed into something else
>Also, got it, next time a drunk driver paralyzes someone I'll make sure to tell them they can't walk because they're just too lazy to get up.
actually yes, they don't want to find a solution to their paralysis, there are people who are doing so today though, and thanks to that artificial limbs, nerve implantation and restoration treatments have begun to takeoff and you can actually move around if every bone in your body was broken with an exoskeleton, you can even get these things for free if you get yourself into a research programme

so yes actually they are too lazy to stand up

don't forget to tell yourself to jump off a cliff btw you lazy sack of shit hahaha
the best part is you actually can't do anything about it, you are powerless because you are nothing, and you will always be nothing, all you can do is complain, and you don't even care, you just whine

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very true, you can actually loose more than half your brain and still survive unlike other organs
whatever you tell yourself to justify not thinking about anything

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There's a name for this mindset OP, it's called sociopathy

>hitler did a great number of things wrong

partisan politics is a literal joke and your "vote" for anyone doesn't matter at all
literally everyone in highschool thinks this way, very un-unique

>people who complain actually enjoy their perceived suffering
S-shut up, y-you don't know me

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white people are the actual dumbass savages

*are not brain disorders
nope, it's called having this mindset
i believe everyone that isn't on this website or part of some alt-right echo chamber believes that
i have 2 questions: which highschool and how do you know this?

apart from the internet and 1 other person i've never personally come across anyone who has thought the same thing or observed this to be a majority opinion, and objectively this is wrong, because in 2012, 54.9% of the voter-age poulation of 235,248,000 (74.9% of the entire U.S population) voted, and in 2016, this number was 58% of the eligible voter-aged population, so therefor i say that not only do people believe that 2 partisan politics is real and your vote matters but even more people are joining in on this belief

also i never said it was un-unique, i said it was unpopular
hahahahahaha
this is objectively wrong if you just look at both race and crime IQ statistics worldwide

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>part of some alt-right echo chamber
so 83 percent of this website?

hahaha most likely yes but you already know that

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Somehow OP not only made a fool of r9k for taking the bait, but also himself for wasting his time trolling the most worthless group of people on the planet.

I don't usually post here anymore, been lurking for about half a year now.
I've agreed with everything you've written so far OP, you are a scholar and a gentleman.
If I may make a small request of an ascended individual like you, mind explaining to me what OPSEC is?

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assuming you actually hold these beliefs and are not trolling,

>poor people are actually stupid and deserve to be poor
structural inequality?

>people who get scammed are actually naive and stupid and deserve to be scammed
fair, its a matter of moral debate

>scammers should actually be rewarded for trying to stimulate people's critical thinking skills and waking them up from stupidity
they already r

>2 partisan politics is a literal joke and your "vote" for anyone doesn't matter at all
go read about politics

>psychology and psychiatry are not valid fields of medicine or scientific at all
some aspects of it aren't scientific like your Freudian psychoanalysis etc. but modern psychiatric treatment like cognitive behavioral therapy etc. have empirically verified results. in any case, you can make the argument that modern medicine isn't scientific; you can't measure something like 'pain' objectively, its based on patient self-assessment and then the doctor diagnoses and prescribes you based on this much like psychs diagnose 'subjective' mental states like depression based on clusters of self-reported traits on the DSM. computational psychiatry is a growing field and its only going to get more and more 'valid' in the future when we start to really understand whats going on in the human brain

>mental illness doesn't exist, you're just reacting to the reality of the world or being mad
>"psychiatric medication" is pseudoscientific quackery like crystal balls, it's a placebo
>the ego is the only thing that really matters, 1-upping people and benefiting yourself at their cost is all you should care about
I hope you really don't think this and you're just being an asshole, I don't really have to explain this

>nobody can help you but yourself
>nothing you do matters and nobody will ever care since everyone you've ever known will die
fair
fuck i ran out of comment space but anyway you think this way becos you have no empathy n r probably autistic or sociopathc

There's literally nothing wrong with lifting because you want to be more attractive to girls.

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indeed, neither do i, this is the first actual post i've made and followed in weeks, i've been lurking every single day for 2 years now but i've ocasionally visited every few months - years since early 2010, and since i've seen almost everything there is to see to the point to where i could summarize the majority of posts on most boards now in a predictable format the only reason for me to ever post is to have a good laugh and flaunt my wisdom at the unwise if i'm feeling bored, it took me about 9 months to see and experience everything there was everything to see and experience on this board

OPSEC stands for operations security, i'll paste the definition of it here:

"Operations security (OPSEC) is a process that identifies critical information to determine if friendly actions can be observed by enemy intelligence, determines if information obtained by adversaries could be interpreted to be useful to them, and then executes selected measures that eliminate or reduce adversary exploitation of friendly critical information.

In a more general sense, OPSEC is the process of protecting individual pieces of data that could be grouped together to give the bigger picture (called aggregation). OPSEC is the protection of critical information deemed mission essential from military commanders, senior leaders, management or other decision-making bodies. The process results in the development of countermeasures, which include technical and non-technical measures such as the use of email encryption software, taking precautions against eavesdropping, paying close attention to a picture you have taken (such as items in the background), or not talking openly on social media sites about information on the unit, activity or organization's Critical Information List"

you can read more here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operations_security

here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compartmentalization_(information_security)

and here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clandestine_operation

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based and redpilled frog poster

>>psychology and psychiatry are not valid fields of medicine or scientific at all
>>the ego is the only thing that really matters
you didn't think this bait through enough

>structural inequality?
what of it, how does that prove that they don't deserve to be unequal? they can become equal if they want to but they don't because they're stupid and choose to be ignorant therefore they deserve the consequences of doing so
>fair, its a matter of moral debate
i guess, but in practicality at the end of the day i'm the one who wins if i take your shit and you're the one who gets fucked, so in that sense i become superior to you, whether or not it's immoral doesn't really matter in that regard because i've still outclassed and outsmarted you
>they already r
yep, i meant to say they should be rewarded even more, on a moral and philosophical plane
>modern psychiatric treatment like cognitive behavioral therapy etc. have empirically verified results
nope, you can't even measure what the results of "cognitive behavior therapy" is because mental health is so subjective the only way you can rely on it is by asking the other person, there isn't even any evidence that supports the idea that mental illness even exists, "cognitive behavior therapy" is literally equal to homeopathic treatment
>you can't measure something like 'pain' objectively
actually you can, you can observe the nerves that are firing in one's body in response to pain and the specific brain signals that indicate pain, you can also observe their cortisol levels rise in direct response to the pain

"pain" is objective and it is simply the result of nerves sending signals to the brain that produce a stress response, and some people don't or can't experience this phenomenon however
> its based on patient self-assessment and then the doctor diagnoses and prescribes you based on this much like psychs diagnose 'subjective' mental states like depression based on clusters of self-reported traits on the DSM
wrong, you are talking about a specific form of diagnoses, when you go to the doctor with a broken leg or arm, he will use X-rays to confirm whether or not this is true

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now this'll be a good read, thanks fine scholar.
I'll check back on this thread after running a moderately lenghty errand, hope it'll still be up.

Right, I should be posting unpopular opinions;
-Children should be the property of their parents in the strictest sense possible; you choose what to do with them, you should be able to even murder them, since in the end you brought them into existence in the first place.
(This expires once they reach adulthood obviously, at which point they become their own property).
-Permanent immigration should be outlawed, since it creates people who belong in no country at all (think a nigger born in France, for example, who in the end feels at home nowhere, neither in Africa or France).

P.S. your thread seems to be attracting quite the brainlets OP, holy jumping fuckballs.

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> hurr hurr you must think all crimes are solved and only the US Global Police exists

Five eyes, alliances, extradition treaties, trade agreement clauses, etc. Yes, there are still many lawless areas around the globe such as parts of the Amazon, deserts, many poor corrupt countries, etc. Not sure why you think I would not know this. Common sense. Going for an Ad Hominem based on little evidence isn't really helping me buy your 'I am super smart because I managed to read wikipedia and apply some critical thinking to statistics and common sense' thing you seem to be going for. For someone who has apparently witnessed the death of ego, you still (apparently) cling on to the vestiges of it. Nobody cares if you are rich, smart, successful. All they care about is what they can gain from it. This whole thread gives off an elitist vibe that serves no real purpose other than to bait the idiots into being triggered.

More people, more money? Not always that easy. More people also means more competition for scarcer thinned out resources. That money won't do you any good once it goes the way of the venezuelan bolivar.

As for OPSEC, alright you don't practice it, but trying to kake it seem like child's play makes you ignorant. Underestimating any opponent is never beneficial.

I agree with most of what you said, but this isn't revelatory or unpopular in my eyes. The only thing you seem to be seeking out is some mental circlejerk, which, let's face it, is fucking pointless. The stupid will outbreed the smart, that is how it will end.

Voting, if significant to the workings of the country, should have to filter out illogical and emotion based voting. If you vote, you need to understand what it is you are voting on.

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>computational psychiatry is a growing field and its only going to get more and more 'valid' in the future when we start to really understand whats going on in the human brain
maybe
>I hope you really don't think this and you're just being an asshole, I don't really have to explain this
yes you do, go ahead try and research it, minus the ego is the only thing that matters, you will find that the very fraudsters you follow will actually tell you that there is no cure for mental illnesses and the world health organization does not recognize mental illness or psychiatry as a valid form of medicine and literally refers to depression as a disease of society

you really seem to not know much about psychiatry or psychology at all, i wonder if you've ever even been in a psychology lecture, it's pure ideology speculation pseudoscience quackery and blatant lies, it's exactly like the scientology founder's "treatment" process for every illness in the world but throw in some addictive psychoactive drugs

as for the ego, you can debate that, but let me say this, if we are to be placed in a community with one another, so long as i focus on my ego and 1-up you and defeat you, i will survive and win and you will not and loose, the only thing that matters is me and myself not you at all, and if you really believed that wasn't the case then you wouldn't be alive because you'd become a pathological altruist and give everything you have to others and starve yourself

look at what you're doing now, you are trying to 1-up me by insulting me and demeaning me and placing labels, you do this to stroke your ego just as i do mine, because that's all that matters is our ego, all that matters is for you to prove to everyone else that you're right and for me to do the same, even better if one of us manages to label the other insane
>you think this way
and you think that way because you are a naive, i love people like you because you blindly trust in authority which = $$$ for me

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>structural inequality?
im born in some poor backwards part of the world, no access to education, no access to news, no access to a means of bettering my life because immoral assholes
>yep, i meant to say they should be rewarded even more, on a moral and philosophical plane
how are they not already rewarded to an obscene amount already? bezos' net worth is more than entire nations
this goes against the whole basis of a civilized society where cooperation exists. i dont rob and steal from the shopkeeper, he provides me goods in exchange for my money. like the entire basis of civilization was based on the principles of mutual cooperation, fair trade, empathy, and eliminating any asshole who tries to game the system through social ostracism.
anyway not gonna go into a long debate but if u enjoy being an asshole then good for you i guess, not being snarky or anything, sociopathy is a good trait to have in this cruel world
>modern psychiatric treatment like cognitive behavioral therapy etc. have empirically verified results
doesn't eliminate the fact that the symptoms are experienced by the individual as a real, objective part of their subjective reality; schizophrenics literally hear voices that we don't hear, it's 'real' to them and it causes 'real' effects like diminished quality of life, trouble concentrating etc. autistic kids have meltdowns, they're real; ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3584580/
>you can't measure something like 'pain' objectively
a doctor asks a patient suffering from headaches to describe his pain, he says the top of his head feels like an 8 out of 10. that self report is subjective, that's what i meant. of course you can measure nerves firing, measure cortisol levels etc. just like how you can observe elevated cortisol levels in patients suffering from anxiety, or how bipolar/aspd brains have significant enough structural differences that you can spot patients having these disorders from brain scans

oops cut this off accidentally
>im born in some poor backwards part of the world, no access to education, no access to news, no access to a means of bettering my life because immoral assholes benefit from structuring the system in a way that prevents me from getting this access ever, so there will always be segments of the population that are getting fucked through no fault of their own. look at drug kingpins abducting people and forcing family members to b drug runners, u think these people have a choice

indeed
i love you
haha no problem, i recommend you copy paste the text and save it somewhere or take a screenshot of it or both

i like your opinions and i agree with them, i'm an antinatalist so i view having children as being immoral and disgusting but i'm also an egoist so if you want to shit something out and do whatever you will to it then so be it our world is so absurd that this happens on the regular in many places all over the world right now today and has happened countless times throughout history, all that really matters is me and myself so if i'm not involved in whatever it is you're doing that makes me feel not happy 24/7 then i couldn't care less, more power to you if you want to have a daughter to fuck like a toy, i'm sure it would be devilishly fun and humorous to go out into the woods somewhere with some woman start a family have as many children as possible within the shortest timespan then cull the boys / men and raise the women as isolated as possible and teach them to believe in a cult whereby you are god and them having sex with you is how they worship you and show their appreciation and have a harem of young cute pure women to fuck like toys all day

i also agree with your immigration opinion, i actually suffer from a form of this and i think many americans canadians australians and most specially white south africans do
read max stirner, yes of course all they care about is what they can gain from it and you should do the same, you cannot kill the ego, you always have it, you so foolishly claim to have experienced the death of your ego but here you are trying to 1-up me and feel superior by throwing all these insults at me insulting my intelligence for not agreeing with you etc, it is very clear that all we care about is our ego, because really all that matters to any of us is being out ontop, you can deny this but in a fight to the death what matters is who successfully murders the opponent

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this makes me wonder what your life is like. Do you live a Gatsby fantasy?
Can you tell a poor peasant/brainlet like me how I can get rid of my schizophrenia?
Did your parents hit you?

My unpopular opinions are as follows:
>abortion is moral
>women should be encouraged to abort if they are under 20, single, or in school
>men should be able to walk away from their children with no repercussions
>western marriage culture is a sickening display of hedonism and conductive to bad marriages
>hoarding money (billions) is not only immoral, but actively evil and harming the world
>corporate activism does nothing

>Children should be the property of their parents in the strictest sense possible
children are human beings. i hate kids and want to kill them and I know that I shouldn't be allowed to.

People are culprits of their own futures. Everything bad that happens to you does so because you decide to get out of bed in the morning and take it, never changing, always walking the same painful steps for your daily commute. The poor are poor because they do not make an effort to seek a better future, that is their own fault. The oppressed are oppressed solely because they will not rise up. And the loveless share no bonds because they never make any.

>because immoral assholes
no, because of you, because you aren't doing anything and you're a weak subservient sheep slave just like the rest of everyone else here, if you can't pick up a knife and start slitting the throats of your enemies, you deserve to starve and die, if you can't fix your problems somehow you deserve to suffer under them, you are the reasons all your problems exist because you haven't done anything about them so stop crying, because nobody cares and nobody will do anything for you
>like the entire basis of civilization was based on the principles of mutual cooperation, fair trade, empathy, and eliminating any asshole who tries to game the system through social ostracism.
this is why you are so poor and weak, you do not trust others, you make calculations based on the other person and if they do not fulfill their end of the bargan you take what is yours, but if you're smart you'll skip giving them anything and just take what you want when you fucking want it

and yes in some civilizations but not all this is the basis, but not yours and not in the real world, it is based off of manipulation cunning and survival, that's what civilization was originally based off of: war
>being an asshole
i am not being an asshole, i am being superior to you and speaking the truth that we all know good and well
>it's 'real' to them
yes of course because they are deluded, read the placebo effect
health.harvard.edu/mental-health/the-power-of-the-placebo-effect

if you really believe in something it can have subjective effects, like if i think i'm a unicorn pony i may very well just shuv a narwhale's horn up my ass and color my nipples rainbow and have a diminished quality of life because the authority figure lady says i can identify as anything i want to and that i'm suffering from unicorn horse syndrome

your study doesn't actually prove anything btw, and it is quite obviously cherry picked

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>Business owners are thieves in disguise
>Capitalism is at the root of most if not all social issues
>Electoral politics are usually not enough to effect true change in the system
>We're all totally fucked if we don't change our ways
>Cooperation produces better results for a population in general, but worse results on an individual level

>that self report is subjective
of course, every self report is subjective, key word SELF report, but you see the thing is, headaches are an objectively true observable physical medical illness which causes physical repercussions, for example if you claim to have a headache a doctor can use brain imaging technology to look at your brain and observe your pain receptors and nerves in your body and if for example your headache is caused by a sinus inflammation can take a blood sample and observe inflammatory chemical markers in your blood stream and physically document the inflammation, it is an objective physical phenomena
> just like how you can observe elevated cortisol levels in patients suffering from anxiety, or how bipolar/aspd brains have significant enough structural differences that you can spot patients having these disorders
wrong, you cannot spot these disorders from brain scans because they do not exist because there IS NO EVIDENCE that proves that they exist, there is nothing to compare any brain scans to because NO studies have proven that everyone who has X made up illness has X brain scan, whereas people who have headaches are clearly objectively proven to have X brain state with the pain receptor responding in Y way

if i yell at you your adrenaline will rise triggering your cortisol levels to rise along with it, i could take a brain scan of you and say that you suffer from anxiety disorder or some bullshit and throw you in a mental ward, but you cannot do this with a fucking broken bone

if you have a broken bone, if you have a slit open artery, if you have rotting flesh, if you're internally bleeding, you can observe confirm and treat the diagnoses, you cannot lie about having a broken bone, you just can't, and you can't lie about bleeding out of an artery, it's impossible, but you can about having some bullshit made up disorder, it is unobservable, unconformable and furthermore untreatable because there is nothing to treat

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you can have a brain scan and see where your brain is rotting away from schizophrenia.

>no, because of you

btw im not actually that person when i said "born in some poor backwards part of the world, no access to education, no access to news" i wrote that as a hypothetical example. im actually privileged enough to not belong to the group of people that get fucked over daily and recognize that there are people who are like that and that its a fucked up situation for them because i possess basic human empathy?

>and yes in some civilizations but not all this is the basis, but not yours and not in the real world, it is based off of manipulation cunning and survival, that's what civilization was originally based off of: war

and im arguing that this is not what is *should* be and not what it ought to be striving towards, so its a moral debate and i really dont open that whole other can of worms

>if you really believe in something it can have subjective effects, like if i think i'm a unicorn pony i may very well just shuv a narwhale's horn up my ass and color my nipples rainbow and have a diminished quality of life because the authority figure lady says i can identify as anything i want to and that i'm suffering from unicorn horse syndrome
explained everything already so not gonna bother anymore

some individuals have 20% smaller amygdala volume on average
some individuals experience impulsivity, are prone to violence etc.
such individuals are observed to be much more likely to be placed in jail
collectively, if we observe behaviors and life trends of said people, it becomes a significant enough deviation from the standard population AND produces enough of an effect on the rest of the society for us to classify that set of behavioral traits as ASPD. You can draw a classification for anything, people who identify with unicorns, people with curly hair, you can draw from any human characteristic that lies on a spectrum and call it whatever-you-want disorder
. The point is, it doesn't make sense to classify whatever-you-want, but it makes sense to classify ASPD/ bipolar/ schizophrenia/ autism/ and so on because these populations of people have observable diminished quality of life scores, measured from things like income, 'life satisfaction scores' etc. IT MAKES SENSE FOR SOCIETY TO CLASSIFY THEM THAT WAY.

>this makes me wonder what your life is like. Do you live a Gatsby fantasy?
something like that but minus the mansion and instead a house in a private gated community with a private beach and pool, i actually have some servants thats sole job and essentially lifes purpose is to clean dog shit and piss off the floor wash dishes get groceries do the laundry and make coffee hahhahahaa
>Can you tell a poor peasant/brainlet like me how I can get rid of my schizophrenia?
well that's simple, first of all it's about recognition, you don't have schizophrenia, you have faggotry and an overactive imagination, you are the one who say the things in your head with your internal monologue and you choose to imagine crazy things and think they're real, so just stop being fucking stupid and thinking you have some illness when really you just like to talk to yourself in your head and pretend like you hear things and imagine dumb shit

if you take barbiturates and alcohol, your "schizophrenia" goes away, you wanna know why? because you can no longer play games in your head
>Did your parents hit you?
only my ex-stepmother, i later beat the shit out of her once i grew past her tiny little shadow and moved out however
>western marriage culture is a sickening display of hedonism and conductive to bad marriages
nah i think it's a beautiful display of those who are superior and those who are inferior
>hoarding money (billions) is not only immoral, but actively evil and harming the world
in order to be logically consisent, you cannot believe that women can do what they want with their fetuses and at the same time believe that rich people can't do what they want with their money, but regardless, i couldn't care less, since you won't amount to anything in life
agreed wholeheartedly
agreed minus capitalism and being fucked, you will be fucked not me correct yourself

the rich become richer, and the poor poorer, at the fault of none other than themselves

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> nobody truly rids themselves of ego
> all that matters is who wins and not even how
> Mrw

Will check out max stirner

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no, you cannot, you can however have a brain scan to see what's going on with your brain and if any parts are damaged due to stress but i don't think you understand actual modern medicine, schizophrenia, does not actually exist it is not provable and it will not show up on any brain scan ok it is not an illness it is made up nonsense like every other thing in that stupid book the DSM5 made nearly a century ago by ideologues

there is no evidence, just accept it you cannot prove something which is so subjective it won't even show up on a scan

you don't show a doctor an MRI of someone with "schizophrenia" and watch him yell "WOW! THIS PERSON HAS SCHIZOPHRENIA!" alright, but if you show him the brain scan of someone with an actual illness / affliction like for example cerebral palsey paralysis etc, it will clearly show up and he will go "ah yes, this person clearly has X we must conduct further testing and investigation for a diagnosis confirmation"

you can't fake it, but you can fake "schizophrenia", because it's not real, it's just you being you

take anyone with any alleged "mental illness" hook them up to an MRI and watch as you see their perfectly normal brain
> so its a moral debate
ok whatever you want to believe, but at the end of the day if i can murder you before you murder me i win and you don't
>explained everything already so not gonna bother anymore
thank you for admitting your defeat, because i already refuted everything you already "explained"

you are unwilling to enter a moral debate, you are unwilling to present counter-arguments and you are unwilling to even allocate any time for 1-upping someone else, in fact i bet you're unwilling to survive or do anything at all because of how weak you seem to be, which explains why you like to pander homosexual altruism and use words like "empathy", no doubt in my mind you're very effeminate, you deserve to be dominated taken advantaged of etc it is in your nature

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>Average frog9k poster

I've been kind of speculating about this kind of idea recently
You might very well be quite right, in a sense

I'm just posting in a frog thread

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so in attempting to prove your fantasy mental illness correct you in fact prove that the reason they are more likely to be placed in jail is because they have a 20% smaller amygdala volume on average and not because the brain scan revealed an amazing revelation of whatever-the-fuck-personality-disorder which doesn't actually exist, astonishing

anyone can make a conclusion from anything, correlation =/ causation, even in that study that you so confidently invoke as truth that the entire field of psychiatry and psychology is to never be questioned says that the results are inconclusive and to be taken into consideration it does not say anything about mental ilnesses it simply shows that people who are in jail on average tend to be prone to violence and those people tend to have a smaller amygdala volume
>it makes sense to classify ASPD/ bipolar/ schizophrenia/ autism/ and so on because these populations of people have observable diminished quality of life scores, measured from things like income, 'life satisfaction scores' etc. IT MAKES SENSE FOR SOCIETY TO CLASSIFY THEM THAT WAY.
LOL. NO IT DOES NOT, you classify them as having diminished quality of life scores low income and life satisfaction scores you do not draw conclusions to pseudoscientific quackery and madeup INEXISTENT illnesses that HAVEN'T EVEN BEEN OBSERVED OR PROVEN TO BE REAL OR EVEN TREATED

the bottom line is there is NO medical OR objective EVIDENCE, no matter what fantasy you want to believe in, there are people who will fucking tell you that every condition in the body is linked to pressure points on your feet

hahaha, some people i swear, by your own logic you disprove yourself it's sad

i have an idea, how about you go pay some shrink a few shekels and cry about your life to them and get high off the 50 psychoactive drugs they prescribe you after just 15 minutes of listening to you whine and kill yourself ;)

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Have nothing more to add to the conversation, but quite curious, what do you do for a living? Was there some kind of event that made you the way you were?

i can't stop laughing at this fucking picture

anyway i have an extremely destructive superiority complex so i don't even know where to begin with this thread

if you really want to know, i don't technically "do" anything to live, i'm an investor, i live off of the interest, repayments, cash flow and ROI off of a plethora of my investments

there was no "event" that "made me" the "way i was", i made myself the way i am via my choices observations experiences and decisions like everyone else

if you're a predeterminist i suppose you could say the conception of the universe made me, or perhaps you're a little more down to earth and realize what made all of us was one human being quite literally creampieing another during a vigorous sweaty sloppy messy dirty fucking session
hahaha no worries friend, i didn't find it that funny

tell us how superior you are, you don't have a superiority complex by the way you just have a well-stroked and preserved ego which is very good, and you can use this to crush your opponents

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Cool, mind sharing some resources or tell me how you got started learning about investing etc. Howd you even get money to invest to begin with

You know OP, I've had this same philosophy on my mind for some time now, but I've always dismissed it as something I shouldn't give into.
You're making me heavily reconsider that stance now.

Have you ever read the Selfish Gene by Richard Dawkins? I think its contents suit a person like you.
If no, you read any books at all? How do you pass the time?

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10/10 trolling, great elaboration... still a fag and a retard so kys mate

hahaha, of course, but not because i care about you, only because i want to think about you never actually achieving it or doing anything to alter your situation for the better and empower your ego, i've had many poor work slave people such as yourself ask me how how how and i always tell them but they just sort of stare and make excuses and shrug it off as impossible because they know that they have already determined their ego to be worthless even though they crave and desire that which is "unholy"

anyways, it's not as complex as you think, it's actually very simple, as is almost everything in the world, i used leverage for real estate and business acquisitions

i used other people's money, mainly through small local banks and credit unions looking to use their funds for low-risk deals using just FHA and setting up my own investment capital fund and raising money for it literally just by creating a marketing campaign and sending a facebook message to everyone in my contacts list and everyone in their contacts list (i cheated a bit and used a bot for the mutual friends but the pre-manufactured reply i made for them was convincing) which is a great start for a ponzi-scheme but it wasn't because i actually found good deals for my investors and me of course, and i convinced a good number of them to leverage money from the bank as well and thanks to how naive and brainwashed everyone was i was able to amass a substantial amount of money for which i bought a SHIT ton of assets worth a total amount of money i never would've been able to ever see in my entire lifetime

but i started out just doing business acquisition for small local businesses with a proven financial and historical track record and steady cash flow and a single 4-plex which i used to get other people to pay all my bills and rent for me and live for free

first ever deal i made was a fish market stall acquisition for $10,000 on my credit card, cash flowed 22,000

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shittiest bait thread i've seen in a while tbqh my friend

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indeed, you know it is true, we all know it is true, this is the real us, we are not happy go lucky fools, we are animals, and as such we must act like them else we shall be eaten by other animals, morality is not real and so subjective that it vastly differs place to place, it is a figment of our imaginations that we created using language...which we also created

no i haven't but i have watched every 1st and 2nd page youtube video on richard dawkins and christopher hitchens there was to find and watched a video analysis of the book and a summary of the philosophy of dawkins

apart from the assigned books i had to read as per assignments, some of which required me to read like 35 whole fucking pieces of literature (biology experiment) and such i've never read a book, i've never read a book on my own volition apart from maybe an HTML5&CSS3 book because i deem it a waste of time since i can extract the contents of it and much more than it might ever explain by listening to the people who wrote them and detailed critiques analyses and breakdowns from credible voices thereof

when i was bored and had no internet i read 2 whole books in a day one of which was 400 pages and the other around 200

i do however much fancy the works of schopenhauer, benatar, nietszche, diogenes, descartes, heidegger, kant, aquinas and of course stirner and i recommend you to read up on those or even better watch their analysis by others to really complete the circle and get in there

herbert spencer is also a good one for the origins of social darwinism
>How do you pass the time?
most of the day i sit down or lie down and i think and contemplate various things and ideas and step outside the logic structures of the world and look at them all from afar and explore each in my head, cook, masturbate, browse Jow Forums, call up and fuck hookers, relax on the beach and binge watch youtube videos from the channels i'm subscribed to and sometimes drink
hahaha much obliged

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Ever considered or have people tell you that you're a narc. I don't mean it as an insult, I just notice this trend where so many financial type guys have the same mindset as u so I just wanna know what you think about that (which you'll probably reply that it's bullshit so good for you I guess)

yes of course, no nobody has called me a narcissist in real life because i play my cards right, and so to everyone i am a saint, and i think if you are not a narcissist and don't care about your ego you are weak and on a very low level of existence and deserve to be stepped on by the people who you think you can't step on, remember the ego, us, ourselves is all that truly matters at the end of the day, it's only us, it's just us and nobody else, even if you sleep next to someone you are the one who's going to be dreaming all night, and nothing else but you will exist

once you step away from your screen turn off all the lights and get in bed and there's nothing to distract you, nothing but yourself to face i want you to stop and think about how the only thing that really matters in the world is you, really think about it, at the end of the day, once you're heading to bed, once you're in bed all alone in the pitch black darkness with no one other than yourself: what matters to you? who matters to you? is it other people? really? why? why do you care about them, think about it really, who the fuck cares about you? what have they done for you really? the real actions not just the words and intentions, the cold hard facts, the real truth deep down under: the money

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Women are right to have contempt for most betas

Fair enough. That might be true, that reading an entire book is a waste of time, summaries and breakdowns of books are more efficient.

>the works of Diogenes
nigger what? I don't think Diogenes picked up a pen in his whole life. If you're referring to the stories told about him, those are fun, but I wouldn't call those his "works".

There's one thing that still quite puzzles me though; if you're an "every man for himself" kind of guy in the extreme sense, and you prefer people to be gullible and stupid so you can profit off their stupidity, why are you bothering to share this with us? Aren't you shooting yourself in the foot?
Is there some semblance of altruism in you after all? surely you can't claim that the posts you make on a anonymous mongolian basketweaving forum profits you somehow.

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betas deserve to be taken advantaged of by women and they are entitled to absolutely nothing but complete horse shit served on a frozen-piss disc platter
i included 9 people in that list and everyone except for diogenes have published their works anyways you could say taht the stories written of him are his works in and of themselves

no i'm not shooting myself in the foot, of course we all have some form of altruism but you see it takes place in the form of our ego, it benefits our ego, altruism is just another form of 1-upmanship, we wouldn't do it if it didn't make us feel good and superior

i made this thread more than 8 hours ago, and i've done it to keep me occupied 1. because i'm bored and 2. because i need something to stimulate me while i attempt to stay up until evening

and i make profit while i sleep, i'm making profit right now, in fact...hold on..yep, a minute passed, i just made profit, i get 7 different motherfucking seperate payments from my investments 1 of which is from my management team at my company that sends me a payment of all the other fucking payments that come from my investment every damn month i couldn't give a shit about making more profit, yeah i need more naive and stupid people but there are already so many of you everywhere i couldn't care less you're like sheep cattle in fact you come to me and beg i LITERALLY had a GROWN MAN take off his hat cup his hands together and BEG me to hire him so he could make me more money it's just hilarious, and anyone in my position knows this

i'm on this stupid place for the same reason everyone else is, i can't go back, once you come here this is where you go for everything all the time, like i said earlier to some other user i've been here for almost a decade, 99% of the shit here is predictable and boring but sometimes there are things that surprise me that you can't find anywhere else and that's why i stay, also anonymity and freedom of speech

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>things that surprise me that you can't find anywhere else and that's why i stay
now you're making me curious; what's a guy like you searching for in an abhorrent hellhole like this?
Satisfying your sadism, perhaps? There's plenty of whiny suffering from pathetic individuals to leech from, I'd imagine.

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I don't think you're a troll because the way you type demonstrates a complete lack of empathy (again not meant to be an insult, just observation) and you've been very consistent with your views

good for you, you're basically one those people born without a conscience which is extremely beneficial in today's world as you've demonstrated

>what matters to you? who matters to you? is it other people? really? why? why do you care about them, think about it really, who the fuck cares about you? what have they done for you really?

for people born with empathy and conscience, we're capable of feeling emotion for other people, that's why we do what we do for people, and we innately understand not to fuck people over. that's why people are willing to die for causes they believe in, or sacrifice themselves to save their family etc. It's funny cos I know you're just gonna reply that I'm a weak fuck and nothing I say can change your mind so I'll just leave it at that

Do you have anyone you genuinely care about? As in, if they brought you no benefit in any way (sexual or monetary or whatever) would you still maintain an association with them? Like a romantic partner or anything. Genuinely curious to know, because I know some guys like you but they describe being able to care about a select few people

Also have you read Without Conscience? You're exactly the kind of the person they describe in the book

if you're a troll then good job I guess

Euthanasia should be a right for anyone, anybody with a shit life should deserve the right to end their suffering painlessly.

That asexuality is real, most people don't believe it's real because of subjective reality. Because they have casual sex everyday unconditionally and with no fear

I'm an oldfag but my favorite era of Jow Forums was the early 10s

>Biological sex is real
>Race is real
>Mental illnesses, which are the tangible manifestations of disordered, atypical brain activity, are not real
You dumbfuck le red pill alt right niggers are a treat.

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Jimi Hendrix is only considered a great guitar player because he is black.

woops, sorry i took a nap just woke up jolted out of bed, luckily i woke up and only slept ~4 hours i would've slept until midnight hopefully i can go back to sleep later on tonight damnit it was my fault i knew i shouldnt've strayed my eyes away from the screen all it took was a few minutes and i dozed off, anyways
hahaha, well, every once in a while diamond will appear in a pile of shit, this is the highest level of publicly attainable conscious awareness from people you can get on the clear net basically without entering private IRC chat groups many of which contain some very dark twisted shit

because i can only relate to a very, very small amount of people you are the best of the sheep i can stare at, some of you possess certain abilities at a low-mid level and many of you still have that fundamental sense of true consciousness and self-awareness but because of the majority of your upbringings being withheld to 1st world countries and your parents being cogs in the system and you not experiencing outlandishly bizarre things most people wouldn't believe outside of an autobiography or movie theater you haven't developed them to your fullest ability, however there are some who have but those few do not post, like i do, the only reason i even made this thread like i told you is mainly so i could keep myself awake because it's constant stimulation, i haven't made a post for close to 3 months now because i can already predict what everything's going to end out like, and it 's very rare that i'll find something i think is worth posting in, but when i do i do find myself having quite a jolly time and of course there's having a quick laugh at people and satisfying my sadism but even more rarely i'll laugh at something and so that's why i stay you see

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there is no correlation between race and IQ

haha no no, you got it all wrong, you see, we weren't born "without a conscience" or empathy or whatnot, actually, it's very much the opposite, you see, we were once people who were and still are hyper-empathic and caring, perhaps we cared too much about people, but as time progressed, we became more mature and our naivety faded away, we realized that this effort is fruitless and that people actually look down upon you for trying to help out of the goodness of your heart, we have the ability to experience such intense emotion and care for someone else that we may plunge ourself into a manic fit and burst into tears and embrace someone else, but we have the ability to turn this off, and we have the ability to be hypo-empathic, and so we have, because we've realized that you do not deserve it, that nobody deserves it, over not jut our own personal experiences but simple observation and contemplation we've realized that humans are viscous, filthy creatures no different from any other animal and as such operate within a brutally merciless social hierarchy created none other by themselves for the sole purpose of dominating one another and that it's so deeply embedded in our nature that even those who signal the highest of virtues are prone to using their virtue to 1-up their fellow man, indeed, we don't just live in a cruel world, but we live as a cruel species and on a cruel planet, this weak behavior of empathy and compassion has no place in our world if you are to ever stand a chance of survival, and you are sheep asking to have your throat slit for giving anythign to anyone without getting any benefit in return

the only person i have any feeligns for is a sort of stock holms syndrome type ordeal with my father but i still hate him for what he's done to me and for bringing me into the world when he even told me himself to my face that he knew better, and he is the only person i know who understands and has true access to the higher echelons of society

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most of this can be proven wrong just by having basic education

apart from that, there will be times where every once in a while i will experience a moment of great sorrow and heartache and my "conscious" will start to come out of the deep freezer, a very, very small amount of people have seen this but i have severed ties with them and i quickly correct my weakness by doing what i need to do to revert back to strength, i usually do this in the form of destroying someone's life who deserved it and then going out and flaunting my power to hopeless stupid poor people and watching their faces become jaded as i show them how i could buy their entire lives if i wanted to, i show them how worthless their time and existence is working for people like me for pennies, i employ people whose sole fucking job it is to sit down in the kitchen and make some god damn coffee and sandwiches for pennies and laugh as i observe their pointless existence and their naive optimism for the future
agreed but people who have a shit life should be murdered to be put out of their misery
i have yet to come across an "asexual" person who does not masturbate or conjure errections

i'm not convinced and i still think it's bullshit and that you're just in some weak long drawn out depressive episode, i also think almost all of you who are men at least also have very low testosterone and high estrogen levels
my favorite era was around late 2015-early 2016 before the massive swarm hoard of race bait bullshit started to overflow
hahahaha oh yes you are my favorite type i make sure to fish out ones like you specially the women, it's hilarious to fuck their brains out for a few dollars extra an hour after i hear them screech and yell about some SJW bullshit, you are all satisfyingly hypocritical

you naive pathological altruistic authority-worshiping subjectivists are a treat
interesting, i don't know anything about jimi hendrix

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