Failed Normie Here, about to make my return to r9k after failing to achieve normie status. Also about to get fucked by the state too, so it's fun times.
>Be minding my own business >Roastie messages me on Snapchat asking me to help her out with installing a shelf in her new apartment at 2:00am >Should have already known what the deal was but I knew her relatively well and she kept begging me so I decide to drive an hour and a half to help her out don't ever "help" a woman >End up getting high and having sex, staring at the stars on some teen crush movie shit. >Come down to see her two more times. We talk every day, start sharing really intimate details with each other. >Be honest and tell her about my mental issues don't ever tell a woman your vulnerabilities [/spoiler ] >She tells me she accepts me and doesn't want me out of her life. Instantly fall in love. don't ever trust or fall in love with a woman >Randomly during a normal conversation she sends me a break up text. Can't understand why this is happening and why so suddenly. >Try to call her to understand, feeling a physical and desperate need to hear her voice and understand her POV don't ever try to understand a woman >She suddenly starts ignoring all my calls and I tell her that I'm having a panic attacks and I'm on the verge of a mental breakdown >No response >Proceed to have mental breakdown. Say a bunch of crazy shit I don't mean to say. >Literally in constant state of panic over the next few weeks. Start having delusional thoughts about her being kidnapped or her being a figment of my imagination. >Constantly text/call her. She blocks my number but then unblocks it hours later and repeats this process for three weeks. it's because she's planning on using your own words and emotions against you, don't be emotional around women >Continued....
Guess what user? Psycho bitches are responsible for their own actions. So are you. It's not her fault you had a psychotic breakdown.
Daniel Cruz
>Weeks later serves processor comes to my job and issues me a temporary protective order >I'm being accused of stalking her legally I was ... Thank you Violence against women act of 1997 >Have to go to court on Monday and have my insane texts read to me in front of court >May end up paying her legal fees >May end up paying for counseling and being forced to get therapy >May have other repercussions arise that I can't even think of atm >No way to fight the case and every lawyer I talked to said the same thing >Technically already violated TPO by texting her before reading the paper. May go to jail. >Lawyers are all trying to charge me $5000 >Reputation may be tarnished beyond what is salvageable >Just wanted to be held and accepted >Instead she used me and then baited me into sending her crazy messages >Ignored my multiple and increasingly desperate cries for closure >But she will be seen as the innocent victim on Monday and myself the evil aggressor >She'll be pouring Chad a glass of wine pulled from the wine rack I installed soon.
Just stick to porn guys. It's not worth it.
Kayden Carter
Yeah, you likely need therapy. You're acting like a psycho bitch.
Liam Peterson
Except I never did anything violent towards her in the year that I've known her. She manipulated my emotions and then ran to the state as soon as she felt the slightest bit uncomfortable. Didn't tell me about the restraining order and instead continually unblocked me so she could use my texts as evidence of how "in danger" she was.
I get attached to people I care about. It's an issue I know I have which is why I avoid letting people get close to me...I guess I should have known better.
Anthony Lee
I feel this thread, that's pretty shitty user
Nicholas Collins
user. I'm not insulting you. I have mental illness too, but we are responsible for our own action. I've been in the same boat, and what I was doing was wrong.
It doesn't take violence to be acting like a crazy fool. What you did was wrong. She is not to blame. You are acting erratic, and it is no wonder you're scaring her. Sometimes we have to accept we're the ones who suck.
Luis Cox
>End up getting high and having sex, staring at the stars on some teen crush movie shit.
You've achieved the thing most people on this board can only dream of. Don't complain.
Carter Morgan
Am I crazy? Honestly. She told me she cared about me, she told me I was her favorite person to talk to. She told me she wanted me in her life, she pretended like she accepted me for who I was. My only mistake was fucking believing her.
I really value relationships in my life and the way she decided to break things off was so different than how she usually acted that it confused me and put me in a bad place. Then when I tried to get closure and understand the situation I got no response and no explanation as to why she couldn't talk to me anymore.
Considering that she knew how I felt about her and she knew about my affliction how is she morally justified in doing this to me?
Jason Kelly
This seems less like you being a failed normie and more like you being emotionally unstable. Get help dude, not being a dick, it sounds like you could use it.
Look at the fucking aftermath. I don't even believe you can expunge these things and they basically force you to become a recluse at the risk of jail time.
It wasn't worth it.
Matthew Wood
Yeah. I acted the same way you did, and got myself in a hole. People aren't required to love us. We're not entitled to connections. It's sex, not a contract.
Yeah, it sucks, and the emotions are wild, but we can't be going psycho delusional hitting people up all the time. I mean, dude, you know damn well she wasn't kidnapped. She's morally justified because that's life. No man, nor women, is obligated to one another no matter how the other might feel. There is no closure. You were just a fling. Otherwise, the way you were acting killed it, and she's too nice to tell you that.
Carson Ortiz
So it's all my fault then? It's all my fault for legitimately caring about someone to the point where not knowing what happened to them put me in a constant state of panic?
She actually is the victim here? When she could have just taken two minutes out her day to talk to me about the situation?
But instead she chose to ignore me and then log my frantic messages to use as evidence in court.
Am I honestly the asshole here? This is a serious question not rhetorical.
Brody Clark
"Nice"
Nice enough to lie to my face Nice enough to pretend like everything was fine and then break up with my in the most impersonal and indirect way possible (text) Nice enough to ignore me literally begging her to talk to me Nice enough to purposely unblock me everyday so that my texts can come through and she'll have more evidence
If I didn't know better I'd go as far as to say this was a intended malicious attack against me.
Zachary Gomez
How the fuck am I supposed to trust people after this smfh
Honestly dude, should've dropped her the moment she sent that text
Hoez b lyen. Happens. I've been there b4 bud. It gets better. How old r u?
Carson Martinez
Yes. Don't you see? Most normal people are not going to think someone has been kidnapped after a breakup even if they love the person. You can't understand right now because you're ill, and you haven't had treatment.
You know damn well those 2 minutes wouldn't have been enough. You would've kept trying. You would've kept messaging even after that. After your behavior, she will not want to see you on person. Yes, she's a victim of you, and you're a victim of your fucked-up brain not being able to realize what's wrong.
David Ward
According to him you just don't. According to me you just don't.
The game is fucking rigged man, and nobody cares about men. You're automatically assumed to be an agressor and nobody cares about your feelings or well being.
But women will pretend to care long enough to use you for what they want and after they're done you're entirely disposable.
This is the black truth of the matter.
Ryder Fisher
in person* As I said, it makes me sad because I've been you before.
Nathan Ward
Who the fuck was going to take that well? The only way I would have been able to walk away that easily is if I never cared for her in the first place?
Jesus is this how people really treat each other on this hell of a planet? No wonder I stayed in my room all throughout high school on this fucking board. I should have never left, there's no hope for us out here.
Cooper Cooper
If you want an honest answer, I don't date because of my illness.
Benjamin Gray
Most people just cry or drink. They might get with someone else or hang out with friends to get over it. They don't do what we do... That's certain.
Adrian Rogers
How many texts did you send?
Kevin Ward
Honestly OP sounds full of shit.
Just show the convo BEFORE u got desperate to show that y'all talked normally before she flipped the switch.
Or plead mental condition.
Chill man. Use the system to ur advantage.
Parker Anderson
It's like we're not even supposed to be human man. A woman who feels even a little frightened is immediately protected by the state as as a man you're automatically viewed as an abuser just because of how she "feels"
A woman can "feel" like you were sexually inappropriate one time 10 years ago and ruin your career and life.
And the fucking moment you try to hold a woman responsible for her own decisions it's a fucking shitstorm.
A crazy bitch keyed my car last year because I didn't want to sleep with her. She never was arrested, she never was questioned and she never had to face those consequences.
I text a girl who pretended she was my friend too many times and I'm a stalker? How is this shit okay?
Joseph Garcia
Signed Do not open up and trust a girl. It is a stack of ammo for manipulation and gaslighting you and you hand it to her.
Have a convenient lie handy, one that make her swoon when she begs you to "be more open" or "tell her what is bothering you". But never tell her your weakspots, because those are her primary targets when she lets you jump the blade and wants to hurt you.
Daniel Thompson
Instead she used me and then baited me into sending her crazy messages How did she do this? You were the one acting like a psycho and you blame her? How is you acting like a psycho her fault again? It's not and you need to grow up you immature sack of shit.
Benjamin Butler
Im the guy this post is a response to. I dont think youre an asshole and I dont think it was all your fault. At the same time, you need to understand that the way you reacted to this breakup was unhealthy and not normal. Getting dumped sucks, but you have to learn to just accept it and move on. Its clear that this girl didnt care about you in the same way you did about her, and its shitty that she used you, but that shit happens man. You cant put your happiness in someone elses hands.
Zachary Fisher
I understand mental health issues involving men are extremely poor still. However, that doesn't make what you did right. Just because the court didn't arrest them doesn't make it right that they keyed your car.
Camden Russell
Well over 200. Called alot too.
I don't want the state to know about this shit. I'm not trying to be crazy on paper...the fact that I may be forced into that life because if this makes me furious. I only get like this when I care about people.
I would have honestly left her alone if she just called me and talked to me about it, our entire relationship was based off communication and we told each other that we'd never keep secrets or not be transparent. Another lie.
Dylan Barnes
My dude, you aren't me.
Levi Parker
>200 I'm so sorry dude. I wasn't going to ask because I already knew. Like I said, I've done this before. It was 3 years ago after a 5 1/2 year relationship ended. I am not proud of my actions in the aftermath.
Evan Martinez
OP, it's not that people treat eachother in a shitty way, it's that you were obsessed. You have a mental health issue, you were absolutely *obsessed* with her, you did what you did, she just broke up with you. A normal person would feel terrible because she did a shitty thing, yes, but you went absolutely insane, you werent a normal person in a relationship, you were a fucked up person obsessed with someone else. Not trying to call you a bad guy, but you do need help.
Julian Foster
Obviously what I did wasn't okay. Not trying to say it was. I just think it's fucking unfair that she can play with someone's emotions so badly and still be the perfect innocent victim in the eyes of the state. It's fucked up that she can put something on my record that will follow me around for the rest of my life when I didn't do anything violent to her. It's fucked up that I have to dedicate my mental and financial resources to fighting this case when it should have never gotten to this point.
Adrian Hughes
>My dude,you arent me. Thank Christ for that. You are one immature loser. Get the fuck over it you faggot and move on.
Gavin Gutierrez
Sort of. They're actually willing to expunge a lot of mental cases if you're willing to follow the court's instruction and seek treatment. Plus, treatment might help you further down the road. I don't date, but some would say my existence is miserable, I suppose. The life of hard knocks or something.
Angel Reyes
I was obsessed with her? Is that not what happens when you like someone? You can talk to someone every day and share the most intimate details of your life with that person, and then be totally calm and rational when they suddenly without warning or reason tell you to never speak to them again? And not worry about why they're doing it or what the reason was? After they were JUST in your arms saying they wanted to be in your life?
Can you really do that?
Nathaniel Sanchez
Where does the anger come from?
Isaiah Turner
There are some things we think are care which is actually just us reacting in an extremely unhealthy way to our emotions. Your pain isn't wrong. It's the way you're acting on it. Most get sad, yes. However, as I said, they cope in a way that's not sending 200 texts or getting delusional.
Levi Miller
No, thats not what happens when you like someone. And I never said you're supposed to act totally rational after such a backstabbing, I actually said the opposite. You were obsessed, you reacted way out of line. This meant the world to you and you would probably die for her if she asked you to. You were obsessed my man. Seems like you latch on too hard, and too fast, you might have self esteem issues too.
Wyatt Hill
You'll look back on this in a few years and realise you probably was out of it.
All part of growing as long as no long term damage has been done.
Juan Fisher
>I said You're not me, but still, what you said about him acting out of line is true.
Dominic Russell
I hate this world man. I hate all the people in it. People are fucking savages who only see you as utility - people who pretend to care about you and then abandon you at your Lowest.
God I was so sweet to this girl man. I cleaned up her house when she let me stay there, I drove three hours round trip Everytime she asked me to see her. I drove down at 2 am to help her decorate her place.
And in the end it's like none of that shit mattered at all, she just stopped caring about me and didn't even see me as human after that.
Fucking women.
Nolan Bell
>No wonder I stayed in my room all throughout high school on this fucking board And theres your problem. You had no social circle to learn how to act around women. You got all your dating advice from a bunch of virgin incels. Bad mistake. You need to shut the computer off and go outside to socialize more
Carter Phillips
It's newfags like you who're ruining this board with your moral grandstanding. Fuck off back to whence you came; cunt.
Juan Morris
Checked, nice quads old bean.
Ryder Powell
Not him but yeah, I think you dont know how to be and live for yourself, you're desperately looking for a woman who will let you madly cling to her and who you can use to not feel so shitty about yourself. Thats being obsessed, thats having issues, you do need help. Normal people arent like that, and certainly dont react as you did.
Evan Parker
Fuck you man. Fuck all of you.
Any decent human being with a fucking iota of empathy inside them would never have done this to someone they considered a friend. I went nuts, I scared her, and legally I deserve this fucking restraining order.
But why couldn't she for one second just THINK about how fucked up what she did was. Why couldn't she see how much pain she put me through and even TRY to make it better.
She never even gave my the effort. I was suicidal and she didn't even care. How could anybody be that fucking cold to someone who was nothing but kind to you? Why couldn't she just answer her fucking phone? Did she not fucking owe me that much respect?
Landon Lopez
this is why u need to lie to women, yeah thats horrible but theyre women, they arent gonna understand you. dont let them in your castle my guy, never
Grayson Scott
Dont blame the world for your mistakes. This is what I'm talking about, you're not inherently owed anybodys kindness, she didnt want anything to do with you, like millions of people do every day, but you dont see every average joe getting a restraining order, people arent obliged to assume someone is gonna do what you did, and then give them their affection out of pity, because how you reacted was way out of the norm.
Josiah Wright
You mean here? Or are you looking for Reddit demons?
Jacob Reed
When she was filling out the paperwork and dragging me through the mud in front of a judge why couldn't she think of how this might effect my professional career? Why couldn't she just try to fucking talk to me? Why did she keep the restraining order a secret - the same way she kept her intentions to dump me a secret?
WHY THE FUCK DOES SHE GET TO BE THE VICTIM! SHE LITERALLY TRICKED ME INTO COMING INTO HER FUCKING LIFE IN THE FIRST PLACE! HOW COME NO ONE WILL EVER TELL HER THAT SHE'S A HEARTLESS BITCH FOR WHAT SHE DID!
HOW COME SHE GETS TO GO BACK TO HER HAPPY FUCKING WORLD. WITH HER FUCKING ICED COFFEE. AND HER FUCKING WHITE WINE AND HER NICE LUXURY HIGH RISE HER RICH ASS DADDY PAYS FOR
AND I HAVE TO BE LABELED A STALKER FOR TRUSTING YOU BITCH. AND I HAVE TO LIVE IN FEAR AND I HAVE TO LIVE IN REGRET AND I HAVE TO BE CRAZY WHEN YOU FUCKING MADE ME CRAZY I WAS FINE BEFORE YOU WENT AND PLAYED WITH MY FUCKING HEAD
I TOLD YOU MY WEAKNESS AND YOU FUCKING EXPLOITED IT. YOU JUST FUCKING USED ME BITCH. FUCK YOU YOU FUCKING CUNT.
Alexander Jenkins
Can you at the very least greentext and detail the sex?
I want fap material.
Jason Adams
From the fact that you think she was in the wrong. She was kinda. You cant force someone into a long term relationship. If they arent feeling it,they arent feeling it. Example: 2 years ago I went through something like you did,girl and I didnt workout after dating for 4 months. I was devastated and reacted the wrong way. It wasnt as bad as you but still. It took me a while to move on but I eventually did. Fast forward to May the next year, the breakup was in October. I met a nice woman on a dating site and we went out on a few dates then slept together. I really wasnt feeling it and she wasnt either. She texted me one day and told me as much. I told her to call me and not text if she was breaking up with me. She called, we talked and I left it open with her. I said if she ever wanted to go to dinner call me. 2 weeks went by and I met my girlfriend on a dating site and we've been together almost 2 years. I guess my anger at you is because I acted like that,albeit not as bad and I was angry at myself for doing it at the time.
David Hill
What? Honestly, it was the police's responsibility to let you know you had a restraining order against you. Did they not inform you?
Grayson Martin
>you're not inherently owed anybodys kindness This is why I laugh at alll these pathetic mongs demonstrating, protesting, amd rallying for change. They think the problem with the world is the system, they're too blinded to see that3 the only flaws in society are human.
Mason Powell
Your life is over so just kill her then yourself Jesus christ.
Levi Stewart
Why couldnt you think about her feelings before you sperged out? Is she simplily not afforded the same inherent respect you seem to think you should have? She gets to be the victim because she was the victom. She didnt trick you, you came into her life willingly, she may be heartless but thats not a crime. You are labeled as a stalker because you acted like a stalker, she didnt play with your head, you just have mental issues you have to sort out. She didnt exploit anything, you two were in a relationship but you have attachment issues, she changed her mind and wanted to get out of it, and you didnt accept that, so you went ballistic and paid for it.
Andrew Thompson
I don't know what to say so I've provided an appropriate image for everyone in this thread.
Epic, my fellow libtard slayer! Death to all chads and stacies, am I right? *tips fedora*
Oliver Cook
Yea good call of her to break up with you, you obviously have severe mental issues and she wasn't having any of it.
Seek professional psychiatric help in your area, please.
Matthew Diaz
1st time
>Sitting on her couch. Thinking I'm sleeping on her couch. >She asks me to come in her room >Awkwardly sit on the side of her bed with my pants on >At this point I know what the deal is but I don't want to presume >She asks me to take my pants off beta asf >We lie down she says "I don't understand you" >I try to say something but she grabs my face and kisses me >We make out then I start kissing her neck >Make my way to her panties >Take her panties off and eat her out >Missionary for a few minutes >She wants to go In the shower >Doggy style for maybe 10 minutes. More making out. I don't cum.
The next day we had sex like three more times. Literally wouldn't let me leave until I did it the third time.
I met up with her two more times and each time we did roughly the same thing
Christian Lopez
I don't know you but I have this intense feeling of anger towards you. I guess it's because your story rings true in my life as well. When I look back and see the person I was it makes me feel disgusted. Knowing that I acted like you.
Caleb Lee
Fuck you.
I have issues and I know I do. I guess this is what I get for trusting people. I guess the only way to live life is to be cold and alone. I guess I should just stay in my room and post on Jow Forums That way I won't infect any more innocent women with my fucking disease. I guess I'll go take this stalking charge on the chin like a good goy. I guess I'll accept that it's all my fault for not being able to walk away at the drop of a dime. I guess I'll accept that human emotions are fleeting and loyalty and respect is just wishful thinking.
I'll stay away from people from now on. It's only right.
Lucas Collins
That's why I'm personally a hermit.
Jayden Jackson
Stop being retarded and read the thread. Do you just ignore everything people are saying or are you too stupid to read?
Angel Jackson
Are you saying you only saw her in person three times?
Nicholas Nelson
inb4 OP was acting like a psychopath and she was getting more scared and uncomfortable each day so that's why she decided to end it
Dominic Brown
You are acting like a little baby. Grow the hell up
Jack Rogers
Literally just accept breakups like an adult and dont stalk women after they dump you and youll be fine. If you feel like you cant do that, then dont bother dating until youre in a better place. I really think you would benefit from talking to someone, the way you are thinking about all this is incredibly unhealthy.
Jackson Davis
What sections of the law did you violate? It really depends on what you sent to her. As long as you didn't threaten her and didn't try to find her irl I don't see how it would be stalking. Our laws in the Uk are cucked though.
Can't you just publicly/officially apologise, say you were wrong and get over it? Like holy shit. You are just digging your own hole.
Your greentext sucked and you should feel bad.
Connor Young
Last time we met up in person we had sex three times. The next morning I kissed her goodbye. I left my hat at her house and when I told her she replies "all the more reason for you to come back ;)"
She talked to me like everything was normal for the next three days. Did not even mention that she was thinking about dumping me. Honestly I didn't even care that she dumped me, the fact that her entire personality changed within the span of minutes really fucked me up. One of the things I told her before we even had sex was that I tend to overthink things and my mind wanders to far out places. She KNEW that about me. She proceeded to tell me that she cared, she proceeded to pretend like she was genuinely my friend, she proceeded to still have sex with me.
If she would have just told me to my face or gave me a chance to talk about it I would have been fine. She ghosted me and it caused me to panic because that's what the fuck I do.
I was actually legitimately worried about her before I was livid that she could just so callously abandon me.
Luke King
Bro how long did this 'relationship' last? Like 5 days?
Brody Hall
Yea probably. He probably said or did something to creep her out. OP is not a mentally stable person.
Zachary Gomez
I knew her for a year. We were actually pretty good friends before this all happened. I wanted to keep it that way because I genuinely enjoyed having her in my life and I know that complicating the relationship could possibly end badly and I didn't want that.
Guess I should have listened to myself.
Christian Morales
Knowing her and being in a relationship arent the same thing bro, how long did the actual thing last?
Parker Wright
Based on the way he is talking about her that sounds like a safe bet. Everything about the way their interactions are being described just screams to me that he barely even knew her.
Joseph Rivera
Actually the first date we had I ended it by hugging her because I didn't want it to be anything but what it was. She later confessed that it made her mad because she felt like I wasn't attracted to her.
Cooper Johnson
From the first night we had sex to the last text? A month.
Brody Brooks
I take back all the constructive advice I tried to give in this thread, you are a psycho. Get help.
Why do you think she owns you explentation... >hurr durr we had sex and I told her I put bannana in my ass and jack of to traps.. NOBODY OWNS YOU ANYTHING bot even explenation if they stop talking. We live in free world and people are free to stop talking to anyone for whatever reason. Do you have right to force someone to talk to you? Nope If you deny anything from this you are mentally unstable and she probably sniffed that out on you I suspect you are around 18...
Jace Ross
You sound like a little faggot psycho. Hopefully they arrest you after court
Hunter Reyes
I mean I'm not gonna say he didn't act crazy but i can totally understand it. When you've been so depraved of attention and you suddenly get a taste of it then you just get put off and realize that you've been lied to all this time it hurts and you want closure. I've been trough this and i've went to great extents to get closure, but they don't want to give you closure they dont give a shit about you.
Eli Rodriguez
But you,OP, me or anyone have no right to do something like this. OP acted stupid and immature.
David Phillips
>a month >But we were in love!!!!! Bro wtf
Mason Cruz
Hey why dont we just fuel OPs hate so he becomes next hero Rodger?
Op you could from this day pledge that you will make 1 women hate thread a day on this site on /b/ and Jow Forums.
Or maybe you could ask Saint Rodger for advice
Luis Allen
itt OP acts like a psychotic woman.
Christopher Morris
Hey let's not create the next incel massacre
Jace King
It felt like that for sure. Fuck that love shit, I just wanted her to see me as human. I wanted her to still CARE about me you know? Care about me enough to fucking talk to me and care about me enough to alleviate my anxiety about the situation. I literally LITERALLY just wanted closure...but instead I got a restraining order. Says a lot about how she must've viewed me from the start...
Levi Myers
anybody else get the vibe that this is one guy fabricating and replying to himself to 1. push the 'all women abuse' shit, 2. make it seem like r9k's reaction was telling him he's insane and needs to get off the streets, 3. eventually get sympathy and attention from /madeit/s.
Yep. I thought the same thing. It just seems too much like a soap opera
Lucas Lee
I'm the OP. This is a situation happening to me IRL and I honestly just wanted someone to see my side of the story. The court is already going to make me out to be a psychopath and they're not going to even hear my side at all because I have no legal ground to stand on. Legally I fucked up. It just sucks because I never had Ill intent towards her and now it seems like she's purposely trying to ruin my life despite the numerous acts of kindness and generosity I showed her.
Andrew Hall
>I just wanted someone to see my side of the story. Yea,no. You are a psycho and you need help. You are a mental defect
Dude it's not like I was physically stalking her. It's not like I was physically threatening her. It's not like I have a vendetta against this girl. I texted and called way too many times but that alone makes me a psychopath?
Like no fuck you, if I could go back in time and delete her number I would but she still did something super fucking emotionally abusive and if the tables were turned I PROMISE you she would STILL end up being the fucking victim.
