I fucked it all, i'm going to jail soon

nah youll be ok. i wouldnt advise killing yourself unless your getting railroaded into 20+ years. ive done time and it sucks let me tell you but its what you make of it just gotta take it as it comes and try and have fun while your there. after i was there a few months i actually had fun most days after making friends and getting into a routine of sorts and finding stuff to make it bearable. should be cool as long as you dont let anyone push you around or talk shit and dont join a gang. also find yourself a hustle of sorts i did drawings and tattoos. get books/manga sent in for yourself and money put on the books for comisarry items and it'll be ok. wont be as cool as being free but its only temporary and by the time your out it wont have seem as long in retrospect.

Just start learning how to hit your prostrate so you can make sure Joao hits it right
Or start HRT and insist they put you in womens section

what he means to say is, definitely kys, especially if it's anything related to pizza. One of my best friends did, I don't blame him one bit, he was kinda getting fucked by the system tho

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You of all people have got to get a hold of a teensy weensy bit of that weedle-dee-deed! That WEEDLE-DEE-DEED haha oh my goddddddddd user haha Jesus man Jesus! I'm high as FUCK right now holy shit tutti fruition I'm in a fucking high ass condition! Man you gotta get high and jack off! You are a faggot like Bob Saget!

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OP here, I got caught with CP and then some
going away for half a decade

Again Thad again

What did you do? View it as a X year long vacation where you get to read books and get ripped. That's what I would do in jail.

lmao rip even the most violent murderers in prison hate child predators. you will be lucky if you only get a daily assbeating. most predators get shivved or strangled to death while sleeping

How did they catch you op? Origanoli

good, kys faggot, now go post on reddit

nah hes dead

Not op, but as a pedo, I would only go to jail for Mass murder and never for a sex crime

you outed tourself on facebook again?

That's too bad OP. I hope you have a short sentence. It's bullshit that you can get thrown in prison for finding content online

What do you mean by and then some though?

he'll be in protective custody but even then he's still in danger every day of his shitty new life.

Even once he gets out, registering as a sex offender pretty much ruins your life.

>It's bullshit that you can get thrown in prison for finding content online
"finding content online" I think you mean exclusively looking up child pornography on backpage sites and downloading them onto your harddrive. You don't accidentally stumble upon cp and you don't accidentally download cp.

actual OP here, it's cybercrime

No he won't. You only get pc if you actually molest a child. I was in with people that got caught with cp on their work hard drives and they were in general pop but they were roomed with other people in for pedo crimes. Unless op is a famous millionaire politician he will be in general pop and he will be getting hurt every day

would suggest gettting put in a protective custody area in the prison cp and pedos etc dont get treated very well in prison. idk about other states but from where im at when i was locked up the arayan brothers have this code where they punish people like that by raping them and then making them hustle their body during theyre sentance and take half. or just extorting them. it depends what they do i think id have to ask my cousin whos an ab and always locked up for specifics. but overall they treat fucked charges like that bad by pretty muchh everyone from what i saw when i did time. so yeah get yourself in cp quick with the other people with similar charges. if you dont go that route depending on what the charge reades on you docket/file you can maybe play it of differently somehow but dont hide the fact cuz theyll sniff it out and people will look up ur docket so you might be ok with saying you had pictures of your 17 yr old gf on ur phone or some shit but youll have to play it by ear and hope for the best and be cool with people. just dont not talk about your case cuz theyll think ur hiding something but dont go into detail about whatever you tell them. anyway idk man 5 years isnt too bad so i think you will be ok as long as you keep things cool while locked up. even though i honestly think cp is fucked up i think most people deserve a second chance and they couldve been trying to hit you with alot more time than 5 years so you can at least consider that a bit of a break. im still gonna say no to killing yourself if u only lookin at a nickle just be careful when you get locked up and you should be ok

>Even once he gets out, registering as a sex offender pretty much ruins your life.

>sex offender moved into my neighborhood
>someone stuck fliers on every door in the neighborhood with their name, face, and address with "WARNING: SEX OFFENDER IN YOUR AREA" and a list of their crimes

i'd just fucking kill myself desu

Having illegal porn IS NOT a sexual offence and absolutely nobody will ever take you seriously about that. There are tons of curious teens and young adults finding or searching for cp even just out of bore, this doesn't mean you're at all cost a pedophile.

And no, he can't be thrown in as an offender since he never raped or even touched anyone.
The right advice is to just get in if it's a short sentence, keep everything to yourself and not get friendly or trusty with anyone unless is for casual chit chat with somebody as plain and average as you.

Actual op here. I live in the UK and ordered a sex doll from America and they found it in customs and that's how they got me. It's illegal in the UK and I could be doing serious time

u should have bought ur loisence m8.

Whatever you wanna call it, it's a victimless crime and its bullshit

On Telegram you can find pizza in almost every common group, stop the bullshit user.
Also in that shithole usa is you can get arrested even just for drawings of little girls, so no wonder.

Wrong. I posted I knew several mid 20's guys in for cp posession and they were nailed hard by people in general pop. To an inmate, there is no difference between having cp on your pc and raping a child.

if it's just jail and not prison you'll be ok. keep your head down and your mouth shut. get friends and family to send you commissary. with any luck depending on what you did you could get out in half a year without probation. in the mean time i'd say try not to stress over it. you already know what's coming. and for the love of god don't skip your court date and make the cops look for you because that will just make things worse.

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If they actually molested a child then they deserve this treatment

Actual op here

Nobody does "serious time" for ordering a doll. In fact you would not even get a custodial sentence for that. You must have had some nasty shit on your hard drive m8

It's not. If nobody watched cp then no children would be abused and have videos made with them. Not to mention that most cp comes from child sex trafficking.

for real though?
do minors ever get in prison for cp possesion?
if so me and all my friends are screwed for "that one time years ago..."

how easy is it to just say if anyone asks that you are in for a normie crime like robbery or assault?

so i posted this
and after reading that
i'm a bit concerned for you. that's a lot of time. i've been afraid about my loli collection for some time but i haven't done anything to draw attention to it... it's scary to think a drawn image could land me in federal fuck me in the ass prison and screw me for life. all i can say is good luck and try to stay strong. i know people who have done worse and are still free. you got the short straw. i'm sorry. also say hi to Jared from subway for me.

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Oh yea because fuck the idea that they need help just like their victims and that the reason they become like this is especially due society treating them like monsters no matter if they do something or not even think about it.
Perhaps after they're out preparing a plan to make more harm than before and then killing themselves.

People like you are the reason child rapists will always exist.

it depends, some teens taking nudes of themselves to send to bfs/gfs have been arrested for making as well as possessing cp. It really depends on how much the DA wants to fuck you over.

Prison rules. Lying is one of the worst things you can do. Plus the guards leak crimes that people have done. Note- this is prison and not jail. Prisons are run by gangs. Jail is like a purgatory of people just trying to do their time and get out.

They always find out sooner or later. One of the guards will usually leak it to an inmate and then it spreads everywhere.

absolutely. if it's on a phone get a new phone. if it's on a drive use a gutsman pass or just ditch it all together. you're an idiot. possession and distribution will get you in trouble no matter what age.

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That content would exist anyway and the fact that is viewed doesn't mean anything, the fact that is shared does (in Japan possession only was legal til 2011)

Just because you see something doesn't mean you are part of the problem, perhaps you as well see and support many things that are produced by people harming others without consequences.

It remains a victimless crime and getting in jail for a long time instead of receiving therapy shows just how fucked up society is, especially when it's something people view worse than a mass killing, perhaps of children.

There is no helping pedos. In dozens of international prison and mental institute studies, they found that over 70% of offenders would re-offend after getting out. Even after years of therapy.

Also society doesn't mistreat you if you never act on it. Liberals are trying to popularize it. Imo if you jerk it to 2d loli, that's fine. Start watching actual cp? You should hang

so do people fuck these type of guys for the power play or just because they want to cum in something warm?

Most countries provide mandatory correctional programmes for convicted sex offenders in prison. There's your therapy, pedo.

Because children are innocent and pure. If you ever had a kid, would you want 40 year old men looking at them sexually, knowing that over 20% of pedos will attempt to molest a child at some point in their life? Sorry, but there is no cure for being a pedo. Rehab/therapy/medications have been proven to do nothing when it comes to pedophilia

Both. They want to put their dick in something that isn't their hand, and it's an assertion of dominance.

As a punishment. Most people believe jail is not enough punishment for pedos

And it isn't. 70% of pedos re-offend after getting out. I say just let the prisoners dole out their own justice to make sure pedos never see the outside world again

You don't know shit about people getting into therapy lol, there are many young adults that end up fucked in their life, jobless, without any friend, virgins, perhaps dropout and that end up watching that kind of content even when they have never been that way.
Pedophiles need therapy, an education and an alternative to cope with their preference.

I agree as well that if someone is behind recovering eugenetics should be considered, but only an idiot or criminal himself would choose persecution and feed the problems instead of fixing it, pedophiles are often victims themselves way before the ones that need to be protected by them.
Many times they are not even pedophiles but adults attracted to young teens and who are treated like pedos just because their shit country has a ridiculous old AOC.

I'm an ebephile btw and thank God for how many problems my country has at least I don't need to fear prison for having fun with a teen.

To be honest the best societal result for a pedo is him offing himself. But society cannot kill people and cannot lock them away forever (barring extremes like murder) so the only other option is to occasionally turn a blind eye while some extralegal punishment is being dealt out.

>all these moral fag tough guys in this thread talking about how if you fuck underage you should hang
>mfw I fucked a 15 year old when I was 18 and another when I was 19
Does it sting moral fags? I hope it does.

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KYS Thad

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"Children are innocent and pure"
Kek, you're such a dumbass if you really believe that user ahahahah

>there are many young adults that end up fucked in their life, jobless, without any friend, virgins, perhaps dropout and that end up watching that kind of content even when they have never been that way.
That's called the degeneration of the west. unironically Jow Forums is actually right about this. Men are taught to grow up weak and be obedient and passive with women. They have nowhere to take out their sexual frustration so they go for the easiest target. Kids. Pedos were unheard of in 40-50's America. They started popping up when our culture started to shift left.

Again, you don't know shit about rehabilitation and the type of people that might need it.

And also again, cp possession is a victimless crime, just like possession of murder gore.
You're argument is invalid.

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Pedos cannot be rehabilitated. Kids have a right to privacy, just because an image exists doesn't mean it should be free for everyone to view.

No, that's normal. I fucked a 14 year old when I was 14. You are a pedo if you are attracted to KIDS. Not teenagers but KIDS.
They are. They don't know about all the awful shit in the world. They don't know about sex. They don't know about politics. They are just kids being kids. I have a kid sister and the thought of one of you pedos thinking of her sexually is sick. You really do need to hang

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You're so full of shit lol little justice boy

Legalising CP would be the first step to normalisation. As a society, we need to keep pedophilia a taboo, something revolting and disgusting so that there's no chance of it ever becoming "acceptable". Even if you do regard CP as a victimless crime (it isnt), it should never be legalised because of the message that would send to perverts and society as a whole.

It's not though. Like I said, if there wasn't a market for cp it would die off in time.

You can believe whatever you want, possession of that material will still be a victimless crime and that's it.

Get educated on how legislation and crimes work since you are just spilling bullshits

rest in piss lmao

were you the guy dumping on /v/ yesterday

Learn how supply and demand or basic business works retard. Almost all cp comes from 3'rd world countries because there is supply from child trafficking. Then there are you sick pedos that have the demand. Without demand, thousands of kids wouldn't be stolen and sold as sex slaves so you pedos can get your rocks off.

I'd really would have liked to see people like you be born that way and suffer through the social hell and stigma that is created, you wouldn't last a day, hypocrite scum.

People like you might never get rehabilitated, but many people suffering over a sexual perversion they cannot control will.
You are just scum of earth and the reason wars and violence exists, pure ignorance.

seriously kys now or RUN

prison is for bad normies, they will see you, see you are weird, then learn you like kids and fucking beat you up every day or worse

>victim less

U dum er sum shit?

>Mfw here where I am at 2* I can fuck how many 14yos virgins I want,
Smoking a joint while in a warm bath with a teen tit in your hand is something you'll never experience poor moralfags, keep being butthurt

>if nobody watches rape vids then they wouldn't exist
>if nobody watches world star than violence wouldn't happen
>if nobody watches cartel murder vids then cartel violence doesn't exist
>if nobody watches animal abuse vids then animal abuse won't happen

how can you be so stupid?

Child molestation will happen whether or not it is recorded. Child abuse will happen.

You know what making CP illegal does?

It demonizes the wrong people. It switches the blame from the people who are actually fucking and hurting kids to people watching the content online. It protects child abusers by preventing them from being more easily found. It needlessly complicates something that CAN NEVER be enforced - how can someone say a girl in some random porn vid is underage? Or what about nude selfies?

And if you believe that CP laws are reducing the CP market, they aren't doing a very good job. CP is a 3 billion dollar industry in the US alone.

Imagine if the money spent on enforcing stupid ass CP laws was spent on state CPS budgets instead - CPS is massively under funded in every state it operates in. Imagine if children got free healthcare, and were required to receive mandatory 6 month checkups with a physician and psychiatrist up until, say, 7 years old to make sure they are not being hurt or abused at home. THIS is how you stop child abuse - not by covering it up and punishing people with videos of it like you are trying to hide it under the rug or some shit.

The reason the system isn't set up like this is because people like you want to punish rather than help. You don't want to help kids, you want to HURT people that hurt kids. Prevention is the answer, not punishment - that approaches the issue from the wrong angle entirely. YOU are the problem, not CP. CP isn't hurting anyone.

Watching it and seeking it out creates a demand for it. A demand for something means that it will be produced. Are you a pedophile trying to justify your terrible behavior?

Go to prison and get raped

>watching cartel murder vids creates a demand for it
>this means the cartel will murder more people

No dumbass

People rape kids because they wanna rape kids

Something becomes a crime when it damages society and there's a consensus among the people that it's harmful.

Drugs aren't illegal just because the big bad government wants to stop people having fun.

>tfw racked up 12 (You)s and you're not even OP
feels pretty good. you guys will believe anything

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>YOU are the problem, not CP. CP isn't hurting anyone.
All I had to read to realize how sick you are.
>>if nobody watches rape vids then they wouldn't exist
>if nobody watches world star than violence wouldn't happen
>if nobody watches cartel murder vids then cartel violence doesn't exist
>if nobody watches animal abuse vids then animal abuse won't happen
Cp is a business. It's the main cause of child sex trafficking. Without pedos the industry would die. Whereas what you listed isn't a business (besides the rape videos one.) World star is just people recording fights that happen. The people recording them don't get money from it. Cartel murder vids are for intimidation. Animal abuse isn't black and white. It depends on the culture. In China they eat dogs yet in America you would be thrown in jail. If you are talking about animal abuse fetish videos, that is a business and would be greatly reduced if we got rid of people with that fetish.

Basic businesses? FOR A FREE CONTENT ALL OVER THE INTERNET?
You must be so retard to really think that causes possession of that content can be considered business or an actual "supply and demand" system, except if you're sharing it as already said, that I think it is something supporting that.
Casual possession of something on the internet is NOT by the way, it's a victimless crime and if you believe the opposite you are the problem who should get educated and stop being ass hurt user.

Pizza would get produced with or without people viewing that type of content, also because expecting people to stop watching it completely is called UTOPIA and thinking that the way of making it happen is through punishment and persecution means being a dumb idiot who never learned shit from both history and society way of functioning.

As already said, people like you are the reason that pedophilia related crimes exist and that jails are filled with people that shouldn't be there and that need to be followed and get in therapy, especially if caught just for watching a video.

Therapy while in prison is not therapy, except if you are a dangerous individual already sentenced for an assault, which someone watching a video, put under control and accepting to be helped is absolutely not.

>watching cartel murder vids creates a demand for it
>this means the cartel will murder more people
Cartels make those videos for rival cartels and politicians to see. Just like how they lay out the bodies of their victims in public places with messages.

Hey I hate to tell you this but people kidnap and kids and create child porn because a market exists for it and they can make money off of it. Cartel violence exists because cartels want to fight each other. Stop trying to justify pedophilia.

Don't try to argue with this guy, he's just a pedophile trying to justify his own actions. That's all this thread is.

You are one massively fucked up pedo. You actually believe the bullshit you're spewing. Like how you said
>YOU are the problem, not CP. CP isn't hurting anyone.
You actually believe kids being raped and filmed isn't hurting anyone. I hope you get caught soon and sent to prison. I reported you to the Fbi with some of the statements you wrote. I hope you're proxied lad.

Possession of something on the internet, might it be pirate stuff, gore, rape, pizza or absolutely ANYTHING is a victimless crime if punished, it's a matter of definition and that's it. If you view something and that's it you can believe all the bullshit your autistic bullshit your childish mentality makes you believe but it will still remain BY FUCKING DEFINITION a victimless crime, since you are just a user (maybe even just a bot) wandering through stuff available to anyone and watching it.

I believe that being thrown in jail for that instead of having social counseling is bullshit.
Sharing and uploading that content must be stopped and the users doing that as well, I approve that.

just don't save it, user. i know that sucks, but you can't get arrested for just looking at drawn images, you have to save them to go to prison (unlike human cp). it's safer to just look at them and go on your way.

Order an exitbag

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>be sick pedo
>have dozens of cp videos and hundreds of pics saved to my harddrive
>get caught
>instead of going to prison, I get assigned a psych
>still have my pc and internet access
>no punishment for my sick behavior
>just like all pedos that go through "rehab" I relapse
>get caught again with cp
Now what? Just keep giving them a pass? Want to know why it's illegal? Because it's been proven that watching cp makes you much more likely to offend a child. If you are sick and look at cp, you should be worried about going to prison. You are a danger to society. You're like an alcoholic swimming in whiskey. You WILL take a sip. Just a matter of "how long is it just looking at cp until user molests his child cousin"

It's not a CAUSE of child sex trafficking - do you realize how stupid that sounds? I said up above that child porn was a three billion dollar industry, I agree with you that this is a problem. I have never said that selling such content should be legal.

It's a symptom - whether or not its recorded, issues like sex trafficking and prostitution will still continue. Child prostitution and sex slavery will continue whether or not its being recorded.

Making the media itself illegal shrouds the problem, it removes it from the public eye. I can guarantee you that if the money spent on enforcing CP prohibition laws was spent on finding and jailing child predators and sex traffickers, there would be a lot less of that shit in the world. Laws on CP are misguided.

Don't call me sick user, we both want the same end result, we just believe in different methods of getting there.

>If you are talking about animal abuse fetish videos, that is a business and would be greatly reduced if we got rid of people with that fetish.

Heh, I wonder how much you know about this - this type of content is illegal, look up the animal crush video prohibition act of 2010

dude the only time I've ever seen cp is on Jow Forums like two years ago

Don't pull ad hominem bullshit, it weakens any argument you have

I believe in free speech first and foremost - any reasonable person should.

Look up the cyphernomicon by Timothy May - he predicted this shit would happen a long time ago.

The government will always use the same four excuses to invade your privacy - the four horsemen of the infopocalyse. There's a reason why the amendment enshrining free speech rights is the first one - it is the most important right we have as individuals.

Also, stop pretending like all CP is brutal child rape.

Where do you want to draw the line user? Drawn images? Nude selfies of 17 year olds? Consensual sex vids of teens? ALL of the above people are felons under current law.

If you're so butt hurt of being in the wrong and not having any arguments to reply what I said is your problem and people like you will always be a problem, especially if you act like a retard feminist being only able to say "oh you don't think like I do, RAPIST RAPIST RAPIST" and absolutely not being able to discuss a point objectively because you're so full of shit and a totally uneducated retard
Again, you don't know shit about what you're talking about and probably have never been out your utopistic smelly little room for saying shit like this
Cp is not only a business, it's a type of content available to anyone and saying that causal possession means contributing to that business means that you're a retard who believes in a fiction world, especially since you can't talk impartially without attacking me without reason like a butt hurt little bitch
If watching that kind of content is criminal then even watching murder videos should be criminal, and whomever thinks the opposite is an incoherent idiot

You need to learn what a victimless crime is. If a child were to be kidnapped and forced to take nudes against their will, that's a victim. If they were forced to do it while somebody watched, everyone involved helped create that victim. Even the person who "just watched", since: 1. they could have been the reason said child was taken advantage of, and 2. they would not have done anything to stop this child from suffering. The watcher is enjoying the child's pain. If thousands of people are watching and enjoying child porn, well, I hate to tell you but they're creating a victim anyways.

>since you are just a user

And smokers aren't helping support a terrible industry that poisons people. Nope, the users are just harmless. Same with CP. Even though pedophiles make it possible to make money off of internet cp (remember, ad revenue is a thing) they're not supporting anything. They're just innocent little kiddie diddlers.

Look man, just admit that you're a pedophile and a shitty person. Stop trying to justify your terrible behavior. You know you're helping a horrible practice.

>proud of being a diddler
The absolute state

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they do it as a form of punishment for rapist pedos etc. and then extort or pimp them out for money through the rest of the said individuals sentance

>t's not a CAUSE of child sex trafficking - do you realize how stupid that sounds?

It's not THE cause, however it's A cause. Sure, if somebody is going to rape a kid they're going to do it anyways. But do you realize that legalizing it is just going to make a bigger problem?

this. I'm done replying to the pedo. He will live his life in hiding until he gets caught and ostracized from society and goes to prison. Even at the end, he will blame everyone else for not "understanding" his sickness. When he is being stabbed in the prison bathroom by 8 white supremacists, he will still not realize that pedophilia isn't a mental disorder. It's a fetish.