Why do people use linux? It's literally just windows but everything is harder to do and it has no games unless you do some dumb bullshit with WINE or something.
Why do people use linux...
It can be good for developing shit.
windows develops gold though
Windows and user-friendly linux distributions have too many fucking ads in it.
>it has no games unless you do some dumb bullshit with WINE
there are loads of games capable if being played on linux. some of them were even designed for linux. one linux distribution, SteamOS, it's only function is playing games.
>user-friendly linux distributions
name one. just one. i'll wait
It's very good for low end computer and older pc. It's also good for system administrative task.
Ubuntu, Linux Mint.
windows 10 is too fucking annoying. if I was a gamer I would keep it but everytime I went to pee hd started reading like crazy. either update or some metrics or whatever. even when I turned it off I would need to do it all again after an update that usually takes a shit ton of time
It's free.
Usually things that are more complex have more customization and options for shortcuts than their simpler counterparts.
PC users would say Macs suck because you can't just drop graphics cards into Macs, yet mac users would say that's too difficult anyway.
It's a matter of getting what you want and which OS gives you permission to do what you want. Linux is the best in the realm of customization since it is literally open source.
paid software is too expensive in the third world, and pirating comes with a risk, so FLOSS becomes an attractive option in this scenario
Windows is actually designed to force you to work a certain way. They do this so the literal Pajeet Indians in tech support can tell you how to do things through the GUI.
Linux is FAR easier to use and maintain, but if you don't know how to use it you'll of course be confused. Games are already being solved thanks to Valve's Proton as well.
Honestly if you want the best of Linux with the best of Windows install MacOS. But don't get too attached because all signs point to Apple ditching Intel for ARM CPUs. This means hackintoshing will likely be impossible in the near future.
>pirating is a risk in the third world
You missed a comma. Read his post again.
>Linux is FAR easier to use and maintain, but if you don't know how to use it you'll of course be confused.
this is the dumbest statement i've ever seen made on teh interwebs, Richard. linux is only easy to use if you've never used anything else.
>giving into the botnet
>not using comfy, privacy respecting alternatives to CorporateShitware(tm)
pic related is Debian Linux with the Xfce desktop environment, it literally includes everything you would need out of the box, nothing proprietary
You're being oblivious. Every OS other than Windows is similar to Linux, because Linux is designed to be similar to Unix.
Linux doesn't try to prevent you from doing something as simple as seeing the device IDs of everything plugged into your USB ports. Ever had to figure out which "Unknown device" was the one you needed? That simple never happens on Linux because even if you have no drivers you can just type "lsusb" or "lspci" and see a list of all the devices on your system, including the vendor ID and product ID, which tell you EXACTLY what you have.
You're also not forced to use the god awful file manager Microsoft forces on you. You get to update when you want and you never have to jump through 3+ layers of GUI to do something.
Windows is designed to be ideal for offices. That's why you have to use things like Group Policy Editor to do something as simple as turn off your virus scanner.
The fact you need to manually install drivers on Windows is a huge sign that something is very, very wrong.
I installed Ubuntu because I couldn't be arsed to re-install Windows when I had an HD die, and I like it so much more--I don't have to dig through settings looking for how to disable notifications about fucking OneDrive and shit. Linux trusts you more.
Another thing: I wanted a little laptop to take with me to lunch and write on, and didn't want to spend much money. I bought an 85 USD refurbished chromebook on newegg, and installed GalliumOS, which is a Linux distro designed for chromebooks, and it works so incredibly well.
If you don't need windows for something, Linux is just the best option.
>t. system admin
by the time i ever need to use the lspci command, i've forgotten wtf the command is and have to google search what command i need and how to use it.
you're really gonna sit there and argue that the infinite possibilities, the very things that make linux so complex are what makes it simple? don't even.
Linux is Communism
Wake up sheeple
linux runs on 500/500 of the world's top super computers.
linux runs on the majority of the world's servers
Even M$ is bending over backwards for linux and developing their own implementation of linux(Azure) and running a microsoft
Linux is for people who spend inordinate time dicking around with computers, or for in the case of Ubuntu people who just want a basic facebook machine.
>And most importantly: it's FOSS, meaning you actually own your operating system and can freely modify and change the kernel to be whatever you like. Build on it, remove the parts, whatever.
because the regular user is going to give a shit about that lol
Which is more simple?
>Open terminal
>Type lspci
>Press enter
>Scroll
>Get device ID
or
>Open Computer Management
>Go to "Devices" on sidebar
>Sift through tree menu categories to find the device you're looking for
>Right -> Click Properties
>Go to "Details" tab on the new window
>Click drop down menu and select "device ID & vendor ID".
I even tried to be as verbose with the Linux steps as possible. Linux is far more simple to use and maintain. You're just so used to Microsoft that you think anything different is "hard". How are you any different from the people who hung onto Windows XP, or hang onto Windows 7 because they don't like the new versions?
You can't beat free. Plus it's really easy to customise both in aesthetics and functionality.
In Windows I often have to deal with a bunch of bloatware that I don't use and can't remove. But in Linux, I could just easily bypass or remove software that I don't want, creating a machine that only does what I want it to do.
I'm sure many people would appreciate having a file manager with tabs. It's 2018, not 1998.
>he doesn't use i3
It respects your privacy, has a lower memory footprint, is more customization, and offers tremendous power from the CLI.
Also, video games are for man children.
t. Xubuntu user
And I'm sorry if this post came off as harsh and argumentative. I just want you to realize that Windows isn't the best way to do computing. Yes it's best for games, but that is slowly changing.
It's worth dual booting at the very least. Ubuntu will set that up for you during the install even.
Don't pay attention to the people who go
>Ubuntu
They just want to feel superior for using something like Mint or Arch (cringe distro).
I don't play games, and literally everything else is easier to do, gives you more options and is cheaper on Linux.
I like to use GNU/Linux because I have more control over it. Don't have to worry about Windows updating itself randomly when you are in the middle of something. Programming on GNU/Linux just works, while Windows it is a pain to do any development that isn't in an IDE like Visual Studio.
user, i was trying to b8 you. i haven't used windows in about 5 years now. but, i did grow up on DOS and then windows, so if there is any troubleshooting that needs done, i can do it on windows whereas i can't do it on linux without running 80 google searches.
That's my point. Linux is actually MUCH better to use when you learn how to use it. You realize how retarded Windows is compared to literally everything else. MacOS is honestly the best OS there is for desktop use, but I doubt you want to buy a Mac.
>when you learn how to use it.
this goes back to what i said earlier tho. my computer is an internet box. i don't use administrative commands often enough for them to stay in my brain.
My computers are Internet boxes too. Linux is still way nicer even just for that.
Plus when you start to move away from "userfriendly" stuff like Ubuntu it actually becomes kind of a hobby. I was my least depressed when I used Linux, even though I'd never move back from MacOS.
The point still stands you retard
> Even M$ is bending over backwards for linux and developing their own implementation of linux(Azure) and running a microsoft
It's called "being vague". Either post could be the correct interpretation.
Microsoft tried that. It worked until the 2010s, now they're in decline everywhere other than offices and the servers that keep them running. Everyone else uses some kind of Unix-like, usually Linux.
it was a hobby for me for a couple years. then i wanted to be able to use the goddamn thing. so i went to user friendly. currently running mint. before that it was fedora 25. i'll never run a hobby box again.
I've been using Mint for three years on my laptop and I still have no fucking idea. I don't know much about coding but I've rarely struggled with getting anything done or troubleshooting on Windows. Gave up on trying to install Wine and Steam can't access the cloud so I just play games on my Windows 7 PC. Have to work on my PC too since I can't get the software I work on to work right. I probably bungled something up at some point that's causing problems now.
There are things I like about Linux and Windows has a lot of bullshit, but it is NOT user-friendly even at its most friendly state. It will not be user-friendly until you can run an .exe and not have to install everything via commands.
I think your experience is very typical for a lot of Linux users. People will generally start with an entry-level distro, get excited by tinkering and then climb up to more minimal and heavily customized setups where they spend a few years learning technical skills doing everything manually.
But once those skills are no longer exciting or new (and possibly you've gotten older and need your computer to actually do work) most people drift back to a distro that just werks.
i skipped the entry level shit. i went straight to Linux From Scratch, then to OpenSUSE, then to Slack, then fedora, then mint. and you're right. i just want it to work.
You can always read documentation on it or simply watch a tutorial if you're more visual yourself.
>You can always read documentation
i really hope you're not referring to the 'man' command
>it's up to the operating system to support a piece of software, not the other way around
Because it's a superior server operating system with a rich history and ecosystem around it.
>I'm a unix/linux sysadmin
No I'm talking about the wiki of your Linux distribution. Or you can always use the Gentoo wiki for troubleshooting most problems.
because freedom and you can actually make sure that the government isnt spying on you through components of your operating system.
also for me, windows takes like 5 times longer to boot and i also get "window not responding" alot, which i never get on linux.
you also have to fucking reboot for such simple changes
>oh you want to download this fucking mouse driver? must reboot to work!