DURRRRR COMMUNISM IS IMPOSSIBLE BECAUSE OF MUH HUMAN NATURE

>DURRRRR COMMUNISM IS IMPOSSIBLE BECAUSE OF MUH HUMAN NATURE

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then why has communism always failed?

It is though. And literally every iteration of communism,even under different names,has not worked. Capitalism is the best we can do right now. Besides, capitalism brought you the internet you are bitching on right now,and the plumbing,and the Vidya you waste all day on.

You need better b8 m8

>require that either everyone be completely cooperative and altruistic
>or that a singular authority/group with comple control remain cooperative and altruistic
DuRR GomMuNisM dOesN'T cOntRAdIcT hUmaN NatUre

So whats your response?

According to retard OP, your statement confirms his own. Good work on your History, OP! Here's a gold star! Everybody clap for OP, now, he's a special boy!

Because MY communism has never been tried

>implying we didnt live in a state of natural 'primal communism' for tens of thousands of years that flourished and had people much more content and happy then in modern times
DURRRRR BECAUSE YOU USE THINGS THAT COME FROM CAPITALISM MEAN CAPITALISM GOOD
>implying human nature is inherently selfish

tankies go home, communism has no chance of succeeding in the west, or at least in the united states. every branch of the armed forces leans conservative, most gun owners are conservative, most of the ultra-rich are conservative, most farmers are conservative. you'll starve to death before your communist utopia becomes a reality.

communism is a gay
and a big one at that

>>implying we didnt live in a state of natural 'primal communism' for tens of thousands of years that flourished and had people much more content and happy then in modern times
>
Oh yeah remember all those tens of thousands of years when we were redistributing the white man's resources to 60 IQ niggers for the sake of """fairness"""? And it made us all flourish? Yeah no me neither

>DURR COMMUNISM WILL WORK BECAUSE HUMAN NATURE IS THE WAY I BELIEVE IT IS AND NOT THE WAY OTHER PERSON BELIEVES IT IS

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we are literally born as greedless, non egoistic beings. as we grow up we grow an ego, and therefore greed grows within us.

I mean, it's true though. The fact that anyone with a three digit IQ would rather go down dying in war than let communism be established means that it will always be prevented.

It's human nature to survive long enough to pass your genes/legacy. That doesn't have to entail greed. All human beings require shelter and food.

>only babies with no knowledge of economics or the world or reality or anything at all, generally extremely naive and stupid, can support communism
Well I agree with you there

No, communism is impossible because I ain't giving garbage like you my money.

Equality is not only impossible, but also extremely and intensely evil and bad for everyone involved.

Nice strawman, dummy.

Communism fails because it has beings that are innately self interested and expects them to act in an altruistic way with no incentive to do so. It's destined to fail from the start because it is operating in a system that is completely different than the way the world actually works.

Name one communist country that has been allowed to exist without foreign intervention :)

lol, I'm gonna create a society with that has the equalness of communism and the innovativeness of capitalism. just wait bitches

Hot take: if you haven't read the Communist Manifesto you aren't allowed to comment on communism.

Name one country that has been allowed to exist without foreign intervention :)

If you rape and pillage your own country's people you're going to get your shit kicked in by the world police, no shit nigger. DON'T STEAL FROM YOUR OWN PEOPLE YOU FUCKING COMMIE SCUM

>all we do is sit there screaming if something that doesn't suit us happens
>we piss ourselves, shit ourselves, and expect someone else to clean us up
>we expect other people to feed us, take care of us, and are only capable of doing the first line ourselves
Actually, babies sound like your typical leftist. It all makes sense now: some grow out of it, some don't.

The United States

I know I wasn't specific with the definition of foreign intervention but you could at least recognize that every time a truly communist society gets going they have been systematically attacked by foreign powers with a vested interest in opposing communism/spoiler]

>Hey we should collectivise our food production, who's with me?
>me
>me
>me
>WHY ARE YOU RAPING AND PILLAGING ME?
>me

>>Hey we should collectivise our food production, who's with me?
>>me (the african nigger with 52 IQ)
>>me (the broke alcoholic)
>>me (the single mother with 5 niglet babies)
>>WHY ARE YOU RAPING AND PILLAGING ME? (the guy with money and resources)
>>me (the fat smelly neckbeard virgin OP)

Hahahahah I love how commies get so consistently BTFO on Jow Forums, what the fuck is with this board

Yeah not like they had to fight a war for their independence and become a superpower to maintain that independence or anything :) They were just left alone by the rest of the world :) Just existing in a paradise vacuum utopia :) Like communism :)

whoops, wrong board again, here try this
good luck friend

>natural primal communism
That's a weird way to spell "anarchy".

It's because even the garbage of society is above communists.

Dude what point are you even trying to make now.

>more ... happy then

Then/than confusion is even worse than being a communist.

Oh cool using racism to argue against communism. You've really convinced me now!

>born as greedless, non egoistic beings

Kids start being cunts as soon as they can. They're just weak and stupid at first so they can't pull any serious shenanigans til they develop a bit. You sound like a mid 50s white woman who shops in New Age candle stores, btw.

Bet none of your retard capitalists have anything beyond wikipedia education on economics. You actually have to read the books, not the summary on the back of it. What else do you expect from fat greedy fucks though?

That communism has never been given a fair, unadulterated chance at becoming successful due to interventionist actions of then-present super powers. Not that it would necessarily work, but dumb cappies trying make arguments while skimping on crucial details is annoying. But expected.

im perfectly aware of how I sound. I sound as if I preach about reiki and shit like that. but I dont care. my points should transcend how I am perceived.

when kids are born they perceive the entire world as a part of them, kids are pretty much born as enlightened beings, in a sense.

the idea that kids are born as selfish beings is insane to me. selfishness is a product of ego attachment.

nobodies ideology has ever been given a "fair, unadulterated chance", everyone has always had to deal with interference from their neighbors, get real please.

So communism is so fucking terrible that other systems simply existing make it collapse?
baka desu senpai

Wait you're agreeing with me now? I'm so confused. My original point was that every communist country ever was dismantled by foreign powers after the fact. I said The United States because after successfully revolutionizing and gaining independence they were left alone after the fact. (1812 in my mind doesn't count because the British achieved their goals in the northern territories and got back to fighting France).

Even if communism was "properly" implemented, I would still be fundamentally opposed to it because collectivism is pure evil.

Get thrown out of a helicopter, faggot OP.

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t. brainlet who has obviously never studied history

It truly is tho. Socialism is fine, but it should give it's services only to the productive members of our society.
Also state owned housing and free healthcare to keep those greedy cunts away from profiteering on the ordinary citizens.
Feels good living in a European country that follows some of those guidelines. Maybe we should be more strict on criminals and unemployed shits, but this way is good enough for me.
Enjoy paying your life savings for a checkup at the dentist americlaps.

fuck you people get rowdy talking about pointless shit

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Regardless of whether or not communism is the answer, Marx was pretty bang on with his criticisms of modern capitalism right now. I'm a lolbertarian, but it's hard to deny his criticisms on it.

As a NEET this defeats the good of Socialism to me. I say no. I prefer a social democracy welfare state.

Hi can I move in with you?

Thank,

Frustrated Americlap user

Thanks for actually studying a little, people commenting on things they have no clue about makes me almost as mad as profiteering landlords and paying 800,000 for my inevitable kidney transplant

>"How do we alter human nature?"
>*proceeds to indoctrinate people with propaganda from a young age*

what is more morally wrong, not communism, or indoctrinating people to a specific way of thinking from the age they are born just because you deem it to be "right"?

As a NEET I support social democracy with a strong welfare state. In capitalism if you don't work you go homeless. In socialism you get nothing and in communism sent to a gulag. In social democracy the NEET can live a happy comfy welfare lifestyle. Where will the money come from? Robots, self driving cars and 3d printers will do most work. We can print homes instead of constructing them.

let me just scan over your post
>as a neet
>social democracy
>self driving cars
>robots
>3d printers

yep, another jaded idealistic retard
have fun waiting for all that shit to happen and supporting strong welfare when you don't even have a job yet are capable of working