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>I don't think that our consciousness continues to exist after the destruction of our physical forms in any way

Our soul never dies; only the physical body dies. We neither fear death nor look forward to it , but revere it as a most exalted experience. Life, death and the afterlife are part of our path to perfect oneness with God.

I'm agnostic but pretty spiritual. I don't think there is a god but I'm open to the possibility of there being gods. one god doesn't make sense but multiple kinda does to me.

I'm a hardline atheist. It feels so liberating

Atheist.
>why are you what you are?
No one has given me even a remotely sufficient reason to believe in a deity. I welcome

More importantly, they act like atheists more than religious people. Agnostics don't pray, worship, participate in rituals or do anything at all religious.

(Fucking laptop)

...I welcome a display of that reason in this thread too but I don't think I'll find it.

I am religious. I was mentally abused for a long period of time, and I seeked out church to feel better about myself. I then unironically researched about it and started believing within the next year. Feels good man

im not gonna open the thread of read any of the responses but I want to remind you all that spirituality is a meme and you should read another book besides Harry Potter sometimes

I'm spiritual in the sense I think a humans and humanity are more than the sum total of meat and electro-chemical impulses. I think stories and legends that act as analogues to understanding are important.

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Did the mental abuse stop?

For the most part.
Originannall

>for the most part
what's that supposed to mean?

I was raised catholic until about my sophomore year in high school when I became agnostic. And then deist a few months later.

I would say I'm a polytheist or animist.
I honour a couple gods, and mostly local spirits.
I am like I am, cause I was sick of not knowing the answers to the questions I was asking. Experiences didn't match up, and honestly the church is a clusterfucking circle jerk, and atheists are just so fucking cringy.
I don't believe in divine creation, but I believe there is more going on than we know, and if you know where to look for it, shit's fucking lit.

That they are still in my life through someone else. I don't speak to them, but they do. It's kind of a big fuck you to me

>youtu.be/sNDZb0KtJDk
If I can't see it or touch it, psychically, it doesn't exist.

It means a religious people who supposedly values "research" still can't manage to muster clear answers, which makes me wonder how thorough his "research" must have been.

Fucking retarded theists. LOL.

And not a single empirical reason was stated that day, just "I don't like how x and y communities make me feeeeeeel".

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OUR GOD'S A SUN GOD, OUR GOD'S A FUN GOD. RA RA RA.

>a religious people
person* No more phone posting

It's good to know you aren't stuck with them anymore. Your first post just made it seem like you just used Jesus to self medicate and the problem was still ongoing.

do you not own a computer?

OK FINE.
>I was unhappy with the church
>decided to be edgy and try other religions
>join local paganish community ( heathens, pagans, polytheists, pantheists, occult, pretty much everything you can imagine )
>this community holds many events and rituals so I decided to go to one
BIG SHOCK
>have a life changing exsperience, see, hear, and feel things I can't explain
>PHYSICALLY SEE SOMETHING
>start to get into this stuff seriously, because I was a huge skeptic
>The more I put work in and learn the more shit starts to freak me out / excite me
>it's been 10 years now and the results, even though I tried so hard to disprove myself just didn't lie.

There is a reason ancient humans / native peoples commonly worked with the weird mysteries of this world.
But you know, you probably don't go outside so it's like speaking another language to you.

shit guys thoughts don't exist.

thoughts actually don't exist though.

I am your daddy. That's right
That's who I am

>do you not own a computer?
Computers aren't mobile. I'm getting bored inside an IKEA store while my happy homemaker is buying furniture.

>I was unhappy with the church
>decided to be edgy and try other religions
These first two lines say it all. You were unhappy with something you never rationally validated and when considering the next option, you chose to decide between other things that are tethered to the same lack of evidence instead of thinking to yourself about what's actually reasonable. That's not natural skepticism.

If you're not naturally skeptical, you'll surely more easily gravitate toward stupid new ideas and are susceptible to hallucinating, as you just conveyed that you did.

You theists are all retarded.

To all the people above 80 iq, how did the universe come to be?

Christianity was invented to remove spiritual and occult knowledge (the powers of the mind) from the populace and place this power in the hands of a "chosen" few to the detriment of all humanity. The powers of the mind and soul are very real. People who are unaware of or who do not believe in these powers are easy to control and manipulate by those who are skilled in using these energies.
We know "Yaweh/Jehova" of the bible to be a fictitious entity, and the people behind coercing this lie, to be the true deceivers of humanity and the masters of lies. This is evident in the many contradictions within the Judeo/Christian Bible, revealing this text to be the work of human beings who had occult knowledge and infused it with power to make it credible, and to incite fear in order to control.

If your answer is god, how did god come to be?

I'm an agnostic atheist. I don't believe any religion is correct. All those people believe their religion is true with equal conviction. Just so happens the religion they were subjected to as a child is the correct one? How lucky! Sarcasm aside, it seems like there may be a little bit of psychological bias there... A God may exist, but it's certainly not of any religious text. If there truly was a loving god and access to a pleasant afterlife was through believing him, why would he make it so difficult for any rational mind to believe? Anyone who's familiar with basic epistemic principles understands religiosity is philosophical suicide. Some claim that a universe without a god doesn't make sense, but that's not true. What created the universe? What created god? The answer is the same - itself. I do not see any evidence that a god or afterlife exists, nor do I see a rational philosophical argument for either. That's why.

but what if it was actually a deadly laser killing people

there was nothing stopping it, so it was inevitable

My answer is nothing as of yet, as I am only inquiring and not using it as a bait and switch tactic. In all sincerity, how did the universe come to be if there is no God, gods, entity?

I don't know how it came to be either, but filling in a gap of knowledge by invoking the divine is lazy, and laziness isn't reflective of an IQ above 80, and you're not a good representative of people who claim to have IQs above it.

That and sounding perplexed about not knowing how the universe came to be without divine intervention without starting off by being perplexed about how a divine entity came to be is also not representative of having an IQ over 80, which you clearly do not have.

i'm atheist because my parents are

>thinking my statements about iq are anything but hyperbolic banter
k. Seems to me I hit a nerve m8.

Just read the vedas you retarded fuck. Carl Jung read it

Eternally screaming atheist oh god why

But mine wasn't banter because you don't have an IQ above 80. You're too dumb to even try answering the meat of my point.

If you reply to me again, I bet you still won't. Laziness is inherent in theists.

>reading a bunch of poos
>caring about poo ideals
K.

>supremely buttblasted
Sorry I made you poo your diaper fren. The fact that you instantly visualize me as a theist made it all the more chuckleworthy. n_n

Agnostic that is starting to lean more and more towards Islam and Christianity

What's drawing you to them?

atheist

how the hell can a "god" exist if:
>there are many religions?
lemme use pascal's wager here. if a muslim were to die, he should end up in muslim heaven. however, he does not believe in the god pascal used when he made the wager, so he ends up in christian hell, therefore, being a significant loss.
plus, he could have used his OMNIPOTENCE to make everyone worship him. but there are populations that don't believe in that god or an abrahamic god.
>he doesn't give a shit to most of the things happening in this world?
4 o's. OMNIPOTENT. OMNISCIENT. OMNIPRESENT. AND OMNIBENEVOLENT. god would have used all of these powers to stop evil or disasters. but he seems quite biased when it comes to stopping such acts
>believers have different beliefs and interpretations of god's "holy book"?
lemme use christianity here as an example. we got catholics, protestants, fundies, and many more. these guys have different opinions on god's rules and message. god would have used his omnipotence to constantly enforce his rules, yet he seems lazy.

in short, god really is an illogical piece of bullshit.

This was you:
>In all sincerity, how did the universe come to be if there is no God, gods, entity?
If you're sincere, as you had said you were, and if you acknowledge the universe exists, then at best you're a deist.

Sorry if you think the distinction exculpates you from laziness. You're still a lazy inbred. Have courage and make your point about your beliefs.

The vedas talked about the big bang before big bang was a thing.

You seem low iq to understand it.

>still raging because I dared to push his atheistic buttons
I am an agnostic, almost atheistic in my beliefs. However my questions were of sincerity, how is the universe fabricated through the entirety in science if there was no one(thing) to form it? I enjoy your bitter, assmad replies though, they are stimulating, almost erotic. n-n

user I agree with you.
I've co.e to start calling myself a "Naturalistic atheist" in that the only higher power are the laws of the universe themselves.
From a more poetic stance I guess I'd call myself an atheist-pantheist

I kinda suck at typing but because I seen the immorality and hedonism in Atheism. I'm not a Jow Forumsyp deus vulter. Idk i just think there isba God abd the Abrahamic one feels like rhe right one. So I guess its a mix of muh feels and drawing to find God

Universe is series eternal and endless cycles of creation and destructions.

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>caring about fecal poos who merely talked about the big bang before the coinage of the phrase
>still the big bang
user no one cares about poos lol.

Not trying to be rude here genuinely curious.
Why does the abrahamic god feel right to you? And not any other gods?

The theory of the universe expanding and collapsing in infinite cycle, right? How did it come to exist in the infinite start, which made it so it lasted beyond our space and time? Can you apply the logic of a start to an infinite cycle? Give me more pls.

Once again, retard, you posted this in "sincerity":
>In all sincerity, how did the universe come to be if there is no God, gods, entity?
You learn more toward deism and theism than atheism if you think that's more of a perplexing starting point and question than "How would a divine entity have come to be?"

You claim agnosticism leaning toward atheism just as a lazy way to weasel out of a conversation with anyone who won't call you out for stupid questions like I did. You'd be happier in the low-IQ theist community with your value in dumb questions, I promise you that.

The big crunch theory has mostly been debunked due to dark matter increasing the rate of expansion of the universe past what would be needed for gravitational effects to begin compressing it again.
Heat death or the big rip are more likely.

Dark energy sorry. Not dark matter.
I just woke up five me a break

>is so buttblasted and angry that he continues to harp on questions that are simplistic
Hehehe, it's so fun to make you angry, I absolutely love that I found someone so intoxicated by my posts. But anyway, the only reason I have not answered your question is because it has been making you absolutely spiteful of my responses, unable to do anything but attempt to squash me in any type of insult, recourse, or argument. Your continuous, futile manner in your everso expanding butthurt is the only reason I have not been answering it, in which and of itself, is actually relatively basic on why a God or how a god could come to be. I absolutely love your vitriolic anger though, it feeds me like a kid who looks like an oversized bowling ball. uwu

Who really knows, and who can swear,
How creation came, when or where!
Even gods came after creation's day,
Who really knows, who can truly say
When and how did creation start?
Did He do it? Or did He not?
Only He, up there, knows, maybe;
Or perhaps, not even He.

-_Rig Veda 10.129.1-7

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They do not, what you call "thoughts" are electrical impulses which you can touch, study and manipulate.

This is why I don't wanna call myself atheist because all of you are so fucking cringy.

Ah okay. What is the current theories on this that I could look into then, that take a more promising approach?

Apatheism
My brain doesn't function well.

Alright user, you've convinced me to read poo verses. Thank you for not giving up on me.

Stop calling it poo.
What the fuck man

>t angry poo
You've already convinced me, I'd say that's a battle won.

If you are generally interested in astronomy, cosmology, and astrophysics PBS has a pretty decent channel on YT that does "better than popsci" stuff
m.youtube.com/channel/UC7_gcs09iThXybpVgjHZ_7g

They have some videos about stuff like this and a whole bunch of other good info.

If you are interested specifically about how the universe is expected to end based off our current understanding Google stuff like:
>deep time
>big rip
>heat death
>proton decay
>black dwarfs
>black hole evaporation due to hawking radiation
>dark age of the universe
>black hole era

Appreciate it, I just put your list into a notepad text and am going to watch a few of the videos on the channel you linked.

Solid. Have fun user. Space stuff is super cool. And that YT channel has a decent budget so they have good chi yo visually explain stuff.
Also go lurk /sci/ and check out their resources sticky for deeper academic level stuff

Oki, again, appreciate the time you took for helping.

CGI.
Fucking auto correct

Vedas is Indo-European

Any time user. If you wanna drop a throw away email I'll hyu so you can ask any questions you have.

[email protected]
throwaway.

Hitler was convinced that he was aryan. Guess where the word aryan came from?

It comes from an ancient language called sanskrit.

Idk how hitler even learned about vedas/sanskrit stuff

There was no particular name, because Hinduism was a way of life & a philosophy that shows countless ways of living your life on harmony with yourself, nature & divinity. Nobody has a reason to name a way of life!

Few names can be attributed to this philosophy - Sanatana Dharma, Vedism etc are couple of those.

Cool I'll shoot you an email when I'm back at my desk later

>the rishi weren't poos
Over my dead body, revisionist.

The vedas has more knowledge than those youtube videos

Nikola tesla even read the vedas

youtube.com/watch?v=AE4i3uBMq68

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Gut feeling honestly. God (Abrahamic God) makes me feel happy inside when I read Bible and about Islam. When i read about other religions it just feels like fiction to me. Buddhism is really cool though. You're not rude fren you're respectful. Sorry if i sound like a schizo when writing but im really bad at explaining

>if someone smart reads something then it's true
????

The term HINDUISM was coined by the British as late as the early nineteenth century in a not so mindful attempt to denote 'a' way of life for the then Indians, the Hindustanis called 'The Hindus' for short. A Hindu was a settler/occupier of a land called Hindustan, which today is primarily known as INDIA, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nepal and Myanmar. The term Hinduism and with it a NEW perceived definition of the 'HINDU' as 'a follower of Hinduism' came into everyday use after the RSS started successfully promoting it in 1925 and continues to do so to this date. They initially allowed the masses to believe that Hinduism is a religion.

The words "Hindu" and "Hinduism" do not appear in ANY VEDIC TEXTS

Yea
Another ancient text is called the
Upanishads

>German 19th century philosopher Arthur Schopenhauer, impressed by the Upanishads, called the texts "the production of the highest human wisdom".

Lots of profound thinkers probably read the vedas

What is special about being a Hindu ?

1) Believe in God ! - Aastik - Accepted.

2) Don't believe in God ! - You're accepted as Nastik.

3) You want to worship idols - please go ahead. You are a murti pujak.

4) You dont want to worship idols - no problem. You can focus on Nirguna Brahman.

5) You want to criticise something in our religion. Come forward. We are logical. Nyaya, Tarka etc. are core Hindu schools.

6) You want to accept beliefs as it is. Most welcome. Please go ahead with it.

7) You want to start your journey by reading Bhagvad Gita - Sure !

8) You want to start your journey by reading Upanishads - Go ahead.

9) You want to start your journey by reading Purana - Be my guest.

10) You just don't like reading Puranas or other books. No problem my dear. Go by Bhakti tradition . ( bhakti- devotion).

11) You don't like idea of Bhakti ! No problem. Do your Karma. Be a karmayogi.

12) You want to enjoy life. Very good. No problem at all. This is Charvaka Philosophy.

13) You want to abstain from all the enjoyment of life & find God - jai ho ! Be a Sadhu, an ascetic !

>spiritual
youtu.be/TlnPFa7gP4I

Just because they are profound and intelligent does not make them right. Though I think reading the Vedas would still be a good idea.

"There is no external hell, nor is there a Satan. However, there are hellish states of mind and woeful births for those who think and act wrongfully--temporary tormenting conditions that lift the fiery forces within." Satguru S'ivaya Subramuniyaswami, p. 155.

Hinduism does not believe in an eternal hell. However, hellish states of mind and woeful births do exist temporarily for those who think and act wrongfully. They consist of fear, hate, jealousy, bigotry and anger, and are brought about by one's own thoughts, actions and deeds. But they are not eternal and can be changed by positive karma.

Satan does not exist nor does he tempt mankind. (There asuras, immature entities of deception and hurtfulness.) There is no eternal damnation; the way out of hellish situations can be altered by positive karma. Paraphrased from Dancing with S'iva, p. 155

hinduwebsite.com/hinduism/death.asp

Anti-theist. Because I'm glad a childish evil dictator sky daddy isn't real

Vedas and Upanishads is what i really read. I recently got into it a week ago honestly.

Also american television is the most retarded shit. Western television in general. Actually television in general is retarded.

Religious - Specifically The New Church

I was raised in the church since I was 4. I had a period of edgy atheism in high school, but I realized that I actually do enjoy being a part of a religion. Furthermore, there isn't really any reason not to be religious (imo).

Agnostic of course, life itself is uncertainity

A satanist. I felt "at home" when I started reading about it.