At what age did you 100% finally realize realistically that you would not have a traditional life like your parents...

At what age did you 100% finally realize realistically that you would not have a traditional life like your parents, grandparents, uncles/aunties did: IE: wife, house, kids, and a well paid career all by your mid-late 20s?

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the day I was born user

especially considering that my parent (mother only) never had those things anyway

somehow she still expects me to be fucking perfect; rich and popular

I don't know where her expectations come from, look in a mirror bitch

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17-18
even if we assume it was still economical doable to achieve all what you said without being from a rich family, i realized i'm too much of an autistic ugly virgin to get a gf let alone being able to take care of kids.

Maybe 14-15, didn't take long to realize. The world is completely different, I share zero things in common with my parents.

My parents have been married for 35 years, they seem to hate each other, they always argue about random inconsequential shit, I've never seen them show any love or affection towards each other, they have nothing in common aside ethic background (Greek). They're heavily tied to each other financially and I believe they stay together because they know their finances would be worse off if they divorced and they don't want to throw away all the shit they built together, even though they can't stand each other anymore, and haven't for years.

They have not made marriage look like something I'd ever want to get myself involved in. I am terrified to end up in a situation like my parents where I am living with a woman who I don't like and she doesn't like me. That seems very stressful just to think about it, staying alone to me feels much less stressful.

I wonder if my parents actually had a loving marriage and showed affection towards each other, if that would have made me have a much more positive view of marriage.

I'm pretty sure your experiences are shared by many on this board.

About age 33 or so. I must be very slow. I always thought things would be better and I'd have my chance.

Probably during year two, so around eight years old.

5th grade when I realized I looked vastly different to everyone and was treated different compared to the other guys in class by the girls.

Same. My parents have had separate rooms for 15-20 years. If it wasn't for their children & being dirt poor, they probably would have split a long time ago.

I didn't, 'cause they aren't. My father is useless, he barely puts food on table 'cause he's a fucking addict to alchool and cigs, without my brother and grandparents lending him money he would be fucked. My mother has it worse since she couldn't finish school and can only do low-paying jobs. The rest of my family aren't really much better with one or two sucessful people.

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It had sunken in by the time I was 7 years old.

>mfw 80% of this it's true for my parents
>mfw i was born when my mother was 37,only child
I always wondered if the only reason i was conceived it's an attempt to save the marriage

I guess I knew deep down from high school, because when I hit 25 and 30 it didn't really hurt me as much as I thought it would, more a depressed resignation.

you don't need to wonder anymore user, you ARE the "save the marriage baby"

unfortunately a baby never saves the marriage, it usually makes everything worse

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#MeToo.
It's almost like you read my history. Weird.

When i threw all those things away at 18, cuz fuck being average.

22
when i was about to graduate college and had no job prospects or relevant experience in a field I wanted. Had no idea what I wanted to do, and I was at a large university where I was just another face in a sea of them. I also still had never been in a relationship or even attempted approaching a woman (nor had I been approached). Comparisons to friends (most of whom were older than me at the time) began and the seemed to be moving on with their lives.

Probably this year
20 yo

When I was 17, my mother cheated on father then divorced him. She then told my sisters and I that he was a bad father which was very obviously bullshit.
He was going to kill himself for a while but then he became religious and now he's fine. Ma seems to get a new bf every month these days.

I wonder if either of them will ever call me up and give me the "why aren't you married yet?" talk.

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>wife, house, kids, and a well paid career all by your mid-late 20s?
That's not a traditional life anymore.

End of high school. It's been 10 years since then, I work, come home, eat whatever pitiful amounts of food I have and stare at my ceiling wondering what it feels like to come home to a loved one and a homecooked meal. If dealing with me dead wouldn't cost somebody for funeral costs and emotional stress I would have been dead a long time ago. I wish I was an orphan or something so no one would miss me.

>homecooked meal from ur wife in 2018
umm...sweetie...no.

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I may be as delusional as the rest of this place but you're actually stupid if you don't think the matriarchs still don't take responsibility for food prep in nearly 100% of households. I'm not talking about dumb ass kids just peeking into their 20's mind you, they can barely wipe their own asses let alone cook.

Nothing about my life or family was "normal" or "traditional". So I'd say very early on, maybe 8. I never knew how abnormal and utterly empty it would be. Wouldn't have imagined in my wildest dreams I'd be a completely isolated hermit by age 26.

My parents had virtually nothing in common
I don't know what kept them together
I guess once my little sister is out of the house and fully independent I'll know if they actually love each other

When I was 17-18.
>No career choice
>Too dumb for university
>Too dumb for college
>Barely passed trade school
>Only started to work consistently 4 years ago
>Only held a few full jobs, and one of them paid a decent wage
>No gf
>Parents wanted me to be an engineer or a Lawyer by now
>Am hated by my mother for an incident which happened only a few months ago.

Booze keeps me going.

At 14 I slowly realized the game was rigged from the start, and that it would take an enormous amount of effort to get a wife who would probably cheat on me anyways. I guess I'll just become a wizard and make normalfag pay for letting it get this bad with my newfound powers.

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I haven't realized it and probably won't because I decided to take my life into my own hands before it was too late, and give myself something to be proud of.

since 11 -13 i knew i was an ugly loser with no qualities whatsoever 22 now and life is slowly getting better still can't imagine myself ever having a partner tho

At 20.
but i don't complain about it, i have a gf and i managed to make a living.
We make very little money but it's enough for us, i enjoy living with as little material stuff as possible