Why do fat girls go for Chads on tinder and shit? Like, they dont date people that look like them...

It's funny because you'll never make a million bucks by working hard.

>no thinking that people can be inherently bad
Okay, well, this is the big one. Why is this one wrong user?

>men are expected to date in their league
we are?? i've had sex with a lot of really attractive women and i look like a fart gave birth to a piss. i think somebody tricked you.

It's the other way around actually. Most men are average and rarely take care of their appearance while women do all sorts of things to look cute and they usually end up dating some funny average af looking dude. If you're talking about ONS fair enough but you'd be hard pressed to find couples were the dude is the good looking one and whenever it happens people are like "huh?".

>i think somebody tricked you.
It was himself!

Everything is because of someone or something else?
If I'm lazy, it's not because of someone else or some oppressing system.
If niggers steal bikes, it's not because they can't get one for $1 at some charity.
If we get blown up by muslims, it's not because they're not able to eat ham.

People chose to do evil. But somehow, she finds an external excuse for everything.

>she clearly said that if any Chad hit her up, she would leave me
leave her first
god that's a fucking inhuman thing to say

>Everything is because of someone or something else?

YES. YOU FUCKING RETARD, YES.

It's called causality and if you think you're some kind of unmoved mover then my nigga you're eirher God or mentally deficient. Goddamn.

>it's not because they can't get one for $1 at some charity.
point me to the $1 bike charity please.

you're a pretty dumb person if you think bike thieves actually want bikes anyway.

Expected by who? A bunch of angry manchildren incels?

Okay, well, nevermind her. You seem intelligent, so let me ask you a couple questions real quick. Do you trust yourself? Does anything have inherit value? Do you think you're a bad person? Is the world real?

People don't exist in a vaccuum.
If you're lazy, it's because your environment doesn't incentivize you to do more than the strictly necessary.
If niggers steal bikes, it's because they don't know anything better to make money.
If Muslims blow up people, it's because they've been manipulated into it.

The emphasis is on the "else", not the "someone or something".

No. No. Subjective. Yes.

They don't have any self-respect either.
We lost it after time, but they give it up from their own mind.
She told me "If I get fucked by anyone, all the better" one time. I think it hurt me and shut something inside me.
And on the other hand, she got the usual "rape" scenario they love so much. Aka she sucked some dude, they went to the toilet, she got fucked, she said "it's not getting in" at some time, it eventually got it anyway, and one week later she decided it was rape.

And she doesn't see the link between being willing to be fucked by anyone and what she calls rape.

I just don't get it, and what I don't get, I ignore.

I only trust my thoughts, and my body goes against it sometimes. Values are something you stick to. Only you can decide if they're worth following or if you're worth following them.
I am a neutral person. I do evil to those who are willing to do evil to me and am nice to those who don't.
The world is probably real, and it's shit.

Meh, I think it's finding excuses.

Okay, solid. So for that first one, why don't you trust yourself? If it's personal, don't feel the need to post it, but do remember this is Jow Forums and you're anonymous here. In regards to the other ones, we can get back to them later.

>every ugly white person is actually mixed lul

Anyone who believes it hasn't gone to the American south or the inbred regions of the UK.

she would actually be cute with 20 kg less, and proper hair. Look at that baby nose. Her skin is also correct.

>Only you can decide if they're worth following or if you're worth following them.
Okay, so, what would it take to break you out of this mindset? I don't mean it in like a "SJW HURR DURR BREAK THE PROGRAMMING" way, but I mean, in a thought experiment sense. As a human being, what kind of state would you have to be in to break it? Absolutely starving? Getting tortured?
>Values are something you stick to
Okay so different kind of idea of value there, I mean tangible and/or monetary value, that kind of value, but it's a respectable answer.

That's a fucking normie line you tell incels they need to go for girls in their league

Keep your fucking shit straight anti incels

I'm actually not him, I replied to your post anyway. But I'll explain regardless. It's because I have read quite a bit about how our memories and thoughts can be twisted and corrupted, and because I feel I have little to no control over my body.

But why do you want him to answer this?

Man the shills are hard at work in this thread

Well if you find intelligent people, don't you want to know what also makes them tick? Helps define yourself a bit it, and more than 1 mind is typically better than 1.

Okay, well in this context there's just me and you talking over a screen, relative to the moment then, do you trust yourself? Despite the paranoia (very base definition of the word, not insinuating actual paranoia) in regards to how memories are faulty, I don't think you're stupid enough to believe that your memories are ALWAYS needing a check, because then you just wouldn't function enough to even type anything out to me. You have to trust yourself enough to function, at least?

>shills
what are we even selling bro this is just some shitty message board

You need to think about things yourself. Ignore or confront everything that is said and search deep down what you think.
We mainly work by mirroring.
Why would you want to break from a mindset in which you have values. A world without rules is mayhem or a world in which everyone invents its own rules. If everyone was alone, that would work, but we interact with each other.
You don't need to torture someone to change its mind. You just have to act and behave. And they will mirror you.

Why do you think fags are so popular. They're everywhere and act as examples for younger generations. People mirror them. I doubt anyone would want to be a fag by themselves. It's just quite difficult to think on your own on this one since you'll be shunt if you don't think right. Hence the solution of ignoring them.

Guys will fuck anything to be honest, you'd be surprised how many matches they still get

>Why would you want to break from a mindset in which you have values.
You see that wasn't the question. I respect you enough to understand that that's a stupid idea to even really approach coming into this. But you misunderstood, I asked you personally user, what it would take for you? The question was less about the breaking and more about you, remember, we're intelligent, I'm trying to get what you think about the question I asked, since you're capable of independent thought, and since I don't know what you think.

How poorly would the world need to treat YOU to break that idea of living by values user? I know you don't need torture to change someone's mind, but you seem strong willed, would it take that level of awful treatment to break you?

True. Something I've found super funny though is that the ugliest ones are always these whose bio is something along the lines of "I don't want casual sex I want an honest man for a serious relationship", how fucking deluded is it for them to ask for that when they can't do basic self-care?

Bitch, get in a serious relationship with yourself first.

Personally, I don't think I'd make it past any kind of torture, or if I was starving, I'm kind of a "small quiet kid in class" type, I'd be fucked.

Just time and enough proofs that I am wrong in some way.

Shills for... What? Reason? Truth? Educating incels is shilling now?

I thought you had to be 18 to use Tinder

Okay, well, if you were told your whole life you're a criminal degenerate, everyone around you acted like that, the school system treats you like it, and the media tells you it, wouldn't that feel like that's enough time and proof to justify living without morals?
Wouldn't that just mean niggers are people who've been worn down by the world around them, because they're just people after all. They're no better than me or you, and by that standard they (should) follow their own values AND break under analogous terms, no?
And if that's the case, then Isn't people choosing to do evil just a person admitting they've been broken in some way then? Remember, they're people who are accountable for not living by values, and people DON'T just throw those away for NO reason.
In the same way that you "Do bad if someone does bad unto you" Doesn't everyone think that way? Isn't that why niggers justify chimping out?

True, that pic is fake.

Yes, of course. Even if I knew I was wrong about everything and all of my experiences were misremembered or fabricated, I would have to act like I trust myself, because I can't function otherwise. So I don't trust myself in principle, but I have to act like I completely trust myself because I don't really have any other alternatives. Even though I know I'm often wrong, I can't actually know if I'm wrong about anything right now, so I assume I'm always right until proven otherwise.

Afraid you won't get any insightful answers from me, so good luck with that other guy.

But you're thinking aren't ya? "I think, therefore, I am." Live it my dude, accepting you're possibly wrong and trusting yourself are two very different concepts. You've retreated a bit too much into your own head here, the possibility of your memories being altered drastically are very slim my dude, you're just someone posting on Jow Forums after all. Concept like that are fun to explore, but you should ground yourself a bit better, having that much self-doubt breeds some serious mental illnesses my dude. Like, you are kind of capable of pushing yourself into a serious free fall here. As faggy as it sounds, do some meditation, it's never been for me, but it helps you be able to grapple with that doubt much better.
I seriously appreciate the conversation user.

Most girls on Tinder are whores that's why.