>be me, soon 23yo virgin, undesired by women >lift, get fit, good looking 8/10 (maybe 7/10, but still), study for high paying, high status job >women still don't want anything from me, I'm probably uninteresting, no promising adventure >I probably won't have much more to offer for the next 6 years >don't want to lift anymore, starting to get seriously worried I might fall into a hole I can't get out of myself anymore >I already missed out on so much >I just want to enjoy the time I have but this keeps nagging on every moment >please, every second is precious >I'm scared >help
I don't even know what reaction or face to post. I don't know what to feel. I'm sorry if this doesn't belong to this board. But here is where my journey started. So I return to you to see where I have gone wrong. Was it to lift for women? Was it to believe it will get better? Where to go from now on? I can't give up, I can't get depressed, I can't let my emotions rule over me, yet I have nowhere to go and nothing to expect and nothing that drives me. I want to do this for life and beauty itself, for the unexplainable for what there are no words for. But my heart is getting too weak to believe, and I'm lsing my faith, my hopes.
If you are really all of those things you claim there is something very wrong with who you are, it's over
Zachary Williams
You are a sniveling coward with a shit personality. Women can smell the fear on you and find you disgusting.
Adam Clark
It’s not about virginity. It’s about a female taking interest in you and reassuring you that you aren’t flawed and that society hasn’t left you behind.I recommend installing tinder or something and putting what you’re studying for down on it and lie about having your virginity if someone asks you. You’ll at least get matches for sure at that point
Liam Allen
I don't care about it either. I care about being desired, being made feel that I am actually worth something. My country has the legal age of 16 :^) 40 yo man with 16 yo girl? No problem as long as it's of free will I am just different! What should I say? I can and want to change myself only so much. Yes I was always an outcast. They had to make me feel bad otherwise I would've been too good, better than all of them.
Jayden Hall
You are either: >not above 5/10 >not undesired by women, but too autistic to notice >not undesired by women, but dont understand that you have to make the first move >hopelessly boring
It's over.
Wyatt Green
>i dont want my emotions to cobtrol me >i have nowhere to go
Found the problem OP. By numbing yourself, you are limiting what you truely want to do with your life. Dont be afraid to let your emotions carry you in a direction. Some of the best musicians and artists are made because they're not afraid of the intense feelings that are inside of them.
Alexander Moore
>being made feel that I am actually worth something This is something you need to do for yourself. No one wants to carry your baggage.
Aaron Sanders
>Have tinder >good pics, clean, sixpack, athletic, not bulked up, 5'11 >First thing in Bio is my studies >0 matches >have already swiped through my entire city
Noah Hill
>They had to make me feel bad otherwise I would've been too good, better than all of them. Seems i was right, Mr Autismo. Good luck tho.
>have already swiped through my entire city You know you’re supposed to swipe the other way to get matches right?
Lucas Brown
Don’t worry user, I’ve fucked over 100 girls (and about a dozen men) and still feel the same as you.
Kayden Perez
Post face
Jack Morris
I'm older than you and worst off in all those things but I lift because it feels good.
Colton White
>They had to make me feel bad otherwise I would've been too good, better than all of them.
As a woman I just cringed at that. So, good luck with your cocky attitude.
Nathan Perez
>women still don't want anything from me, I'm probably uninteresting, no promising adventure If it helps, it's not you, it's them. I won't go on a rant here but that's what most western women look for and it's fucking stupid. Keep looking. All those women you've met so far weren't meant for you, there are women out there who can respect good work ethics and aren't looking for unrealistic passion, they're few and far between though. If you can, try and meet foreign women. Slavs have other issues but they're generally raised better in that regard, and they're kinda cute.
Jayden Green
But the emotions are so intense that when I show them openly people, especially women I believe, get scared, they can't handle it. They don't know what to do with it. It makes them feel awkward, they just want to feel happiness. I let my emotions guide myself for my studies. I can only do what I do with intense love for all the people equally, by always being there, awake and ready to help.
>not above 5/10 at least 7/10 >not undesired by women, but too autistic to notice I'd say I feel wel if a situation is awkward or if there is something in the air, this led to my first kiss a few months ago >not undesired by women, but dont understand that you have to make the first move I tried to talk to 2 women I liked this semester. Actually asked them if they want to grab a coffee. They all fled me. >hopelessly boring No. I can tell you so much about myself and why I am the way I am. But I can't do that if you are not ready. It's also not always the right moment. I want to talk to you about what keeps you awake at night and how you and I see the world around us.
Henry Morgan
>No. I can tell you so much about myself and why I am the way I am. But I can't do that if you are not ready. It's also not always the right moment. I want to talk to you about what keeps you awake at night and how you and I see the world around us.
Boring af
Luis Powell
I was in the same shoes as u OP. > studied for high paying job sacrificing social life etc > kissless virgin until 24y old > was something like 5-6/10 and kind of fat for like 2-3 years > managed to score good job with nice income still no gf coz socially awkward and body image issues > went to a "massage salon" just to experience how is it, at the end a hot girl touched my peepee and I came like instantly > went back and other places/escorts etc multiple times managed to last longer and longer > started gymming seriously > hit 4/3/2/1 > went to some music festivals and hooked up with some girls and slept with them in their or my tent/hotel > installed tinder and getting actual matches
The biggest positive effect that happened to me is that I switched from caring about what everyone else thinks to IDGAF, I was too self conscious about a lot of things and it made me miserable at times. It unintentionally gave me confidence and nowadays I get a lot more respect in any situations than I had before (not only because I'm fit but because I have more charisma). For example when I registered to tinder I had some cringeworthy conversations but I learned from them, I intentionally didn't want to match with the girls I liked the most because I wanted to talk to them after gaining experience. (It might sound lame but if you are not born into the best circumstances (good looks, genetics, social skills, etc) you have to adapt a lot).
tl;dr: - pick up some hobbies to make yourself interesting - lift - don't give a fuck what anyone thinks
You know it's true :^) Especially the girls always tried to fuck with me because I saw their true intentions. And they were quite successful let me tell you. They made me feel left out and undesired. They made the other boys turn against me. I fell into a hole of drug abuse and self hate. But I know that and it won't happen again. I'm not even mad. I just feel sad. I would have given them my heart and my all. All of them, boys and girls. And none of them wanted it.
Now my job gets it. And it always will be my first priority except if I ever have children. Then they will be first, but only by a close margin.
Ryan White
user, this is not highschool. Stop with your blog posts. If this is how you talk to girls, there's no hope for you. No one cares if you were bullied by little girls, okay? when you meet new girls do you actually try to make them laugh? try to talk about interesting stuff? or all you do is talking about what a victim you've been your whole life? cause if this is your attitude irl I would have zero interest in you.
Levi Perez
You must come off as creepy or some other weird vibe. Practice talking to people in a non romantic way because you are doing something wrong. Either that or you are just no way near as attractive as you think you are and don't have the personality to make up for it
Brandon Cruz
I'm not just talking about the "hi :)"
I'm talking about actually going to them and their group of friends and saying "Hey do you have a minute?" and go on from there? Have you ever actually done that? Let me tell you it took a fuckton of courage and my heart was racing. But I liked that. Thanks I appreciate reading your story and your advice. Thank you for taking your time. It's actually a fantasy of mine to pick up some girls at a goa festival like boom for example. They are special in a way I believe. Sensual and harmonic, with a wide spectrum of ways to love
Justin Jones
Ofc it's not how I talk to girls. I know they don't care. They would do the same. I just have not much to say. My hobbies are lifting and gaming. What the fuck do you want to hear? I mean what do normal people talk about?
Yes I do come off as creepy thats probably true. However I don't know why I am creepy. It's not like I'm hiding something. I clearly show that I am (only) romantically interested in them. (Maybe the only is the problem but I srsly can't fake the other interest) Isn't talking non romantically talking dooming you to the friendzone from the very first second on?
William Young
>about a dozen men There's your problem
Ayden Hernandez
If you have nothing to talk about then read and watch till you have stuff to talk about. You can talk about movies, science, books you've read, funny things you've seen recently,... I also hate it when a guy is so boring they can't change subject. Like they start talking about lifting and for two hours the only thing they can talk about is lifting. It bores me out of my fucking mind. Try to be chilled and joke around, make the girl laugh, do stupid shit. Don't be afraid. Also, I don't know about other girls, but for me it is really creepy if a guy just came up to me and asked if I have a moment. Instead of that try to start a conversation about whatever. If she was in a group, you can start by talking to another person and kinda make your way into that group of people. Then casually talk to her and only if she giggled at your stupid jokes or if she tried to converse with you, you can ask for her number.
Xavier Murphy
>Hi board I'm [slightly young age in the 20s] and I am self conscious I haven't had sex. I rate women and myself by numbers and in the same breath claim I want a meaningful relationship, or I hide from the fact I'm immature and have nothing to offer myself because I'm insecure by wanting to be a 'Chad'. Please help me.
I don't want to be that guy, but you're all NPCs.
Bentley Sullivan
No, it's not creepy. It shows I've got heart. I won't talk about superficial bullshit. You can do that with your slaves who will do anything to please you, even sacrifice their mind. I won't.
I expect some courage from the girl. And I CAN do that no matter what you say. You just have none :^)
Sebastian Evans
Okay, confirmed autistic.
Jonathan Carter
Mad because you can't have it all?
Robert Stewart
I think not necessarily autistic but OP might have Narcissistic personality disorder.
