This is why incels are growing in numbers

Damn, cope is hard in this thread.

Well, whatever let's you sleep and keeps you in your comfort zone, user.

Not really. Both women and men kinda look worse (mostly got fatter). That's it.
Most men and most women still manage to have sex, and be in a relationship.
Incels are just a loud community of assholes who can't take responsibility for their own shortcomings, like many shitty females.

Incels are becoming fewer in number every day. Why are you lying?

It's just another tranny psyops thread.

You can stop reading but it doesn't change the fact that women don't need to pull anymore effort to land a decent man and men are now required to give twice the previously necessary effort to land an average girl (which isn't deemed average but is what an ugly girl used to be). This explains why most men are checking out of the dating scene and going MGTOW. Too much effort for too little reward (in fact I would argue that it's a negate reward).

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Bullshit. Males have also gone down considerably. being fit and muscular was always considered attractive to women, don't try to justify your own lazyness with this bullshit.

Are there 5 times more men than women now? I must have missed the news.

Yes men are required to do twice the amount of effort that women are required to do and men get less than women at the end of the equation.

I bet these faggots frequent inceltears and regularly post in every goddamned fembot orbiter thread that appears in the catalog.

saw this today on a reddit that was about programming. it's spreading.

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Actually yes, in the US, there are approximately a million fewer females under the age of 40 than males.

So there are 5 million males under the age of 40 in the US, user? Really?

I have noticed this trend as well. In the US the average young woman is overweight and fat, I think roughly 5'4 160lbs which is fat. Just being skinny and under 30 makes a woman at least 7/10 in the US, because her competition is so low. Now lets talk about young men. We are more than ever concerned with physical appearance, gym culture has gotten huge. There are guys that are wearing light make up, getting their hair done at salons, tanning, getting teeth whitened, wearing shoes with lifts. The competition has never been higher for men. You have to be like a legit 8/10 to land a 6/10.

Yup
indexmundi.com/united_states/age_structure.html

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False.
70% of men is overweight in the US, 60% of women is. And in their early 20s percentages are much lower.

Just because men started to care a little about how they look, which is something women have done forever, it doesn't mean much.

I've said it before but its getting harder and harder to have what our grandfathers and great grandfathers had. You could get a full time job and support 4 kids with just a HS education. Your wife was probably a virgin when you met and you married young. What do you get today? Well first off, just having a HS diploma won't pay enough for even an apartment, let alone a house, let alone a house, a wife, kids, a car.

What I'm getting at is this, we're being expected to bring MORE to the table than in the past, for LESS a reward. Go to college, get in deep debt, get a miserable job, marry a 27 year old girl that has slept with 10+ other guys, doesn't cook, doesn't really liek you, also has debt.

user, there are around 200 million people in the 0-40 group. Men are 0.5% more than women. It's not much.

You get a lot more.
My grandfather worked all his life, since he was 10. He never went on holiday. A family of 4 had one car. No tv, no smartphone, no internet. My dad had one pair of good shoes and one pair of everyday shoes till he was in high school.
You had lower expectations.

False. According to google its 32% for men and 35% for women in the USA. Also for men, just being slim/fit does not automatically make you attractive, but for women it does.

What the fuck am I getting? I work a job that 30 years ago never required a degree. None of the older guys have any education past high school, I was required to have at least a B.S. And yet I still don't get paid shit, and am forced to live in a disgusting apartment. The women in their generation were less fat, healthier looking and had lower physical standards for what an attractive male should be. A lot of older men I work with that have wives and families would be fucking incel today.

So no, I'm not getting more.

Im interested, how do post recession economics influence this?
yup if you guys werent virgins youd know trying have sex with a beautiful woman is harder than it sounds like and it feels the same physically anyways, thats why some guys like me are willing to shoot down and im probably being overconfident here lol

What are you even posting, user?
My rates are the rates of overweight or obese people of all ages sorted by gender. They're not false.

> Also for men, just being slim/fit does not automatically make you attractive, but for women it does.
Lol, no it doesn't. Just being thin doesn't make you attractive, whichever gender you are.

Take your bootstraps and hang yourself with them you fucking rat.

You have to live under a rock to seriously consider that a thin male has the same sexual value as a thin woman on the sexual and dating market, regardless of fitness.

>What the fuck am I getting?
A much comfier life than you'd ever have 50 years ago.

Yeah. The men in their generation weren't fat either and were healthier looking. My grandpa was stronger than my ex boyfriend when my grandpa was 80 and my ex was 21.
>had lower physical standards for what an attractive male should be.
That's untrue, people just cared less about looks because they married out of societal pressure. Ugly men and poor men still married ugly women or didn't marry at all.

>A lot of older men I work with that have wives and families would be fucking incel today.
Perhaps?

1. Its literally the 1st page on google
2. You are a fucking idiot to think a slim woman has the same value as a slim man, same age. I didn't say a woman being slim makes her "hot", but it does make her much more desirable in the sexual market place.

>yup if you guys werent virgins youd know trying have sex with a beautiful woman is harder than it sounds like and it feels the same physically anyways, thats why some guys like me are willing to shoot down and im probably being overconfident here lol

This is just you being insecure and rationalizing fucking ugly women. Saying "pussy is pussy" is like saying a $300 steak is the same as eating out of a dumpster.

Women have on average higher sexual value.
Just being thin doesn't make you attractive. A fit man is not automatically attractive, neither is a thin woman. I know plenty of thin girls who were single and virgins even till their mid 20s.

Its not comfy, only for a woman it is. Its a living hell for most men today. And men don't even like "comfy". Men in the past were uglier than they are today, yet women in the past were hotter, thinner and nicer.

You are so stupid that is hurts. I never said being thin makes you attractive. Men are repulsed by fat women, and women today are very fat, meaning that a woman just being thin makes her better looking than her competition. Its like being 5'10" and playing basketball. Its not a tall height, but what if your competition are men that are 5'3 -5'5? Suddenly, you're tall.

>Its literally the 1st page on google
What did you search for, idiot?

I don't think that, I never claimed to think that. Most men would fuck a warm dead body when horny enough, obviously women have higher sexual value in general.

>he places importance on the girl being a virgin
Life is better in every single way possible. You are just too stupid to understand this.

I hope someone kills your stupid ass since you can't understand simple statistics and how much more rights women have today. This alone increases the number of lonely men and their interest to society right now is 0%. I hope you get pic related treatment as soon as possible.

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>Life is better in every single way possible

For WOMEN, its 100x worse for men. This can be seen in the suicide rates, the amount of men going MGTOW, incel snapping and shooting places up, millions of young men not currently in the workforce. And yes virginity is extremely important for family oriented men.

> I never said being thin makes you attractive.
Literally said
>Also for men, just being slim/fit does not automatically make you attractive, but for women it does.

>Men are repulsed by fat women,
A lot are, a lot aren't.

Women are repulsed by fat men too, and 70% of them are fat. Just being not fat makes you better than 70% of your competition. By the same logic, not being fat makes you better than 70% of your competition.

A significant factor in traditional male attractiveness was the ability to financially provide for your ho. It's how a lot of weakass beta male boomers, like my dad and many of your fathers I'm sure, were able to attract non-roasted tail, simply by being an able provider.
That's all out the fucking window now; the boomer era industrial economy is dead as fuck, and what we have now is a shitty third service sector economy that favors females and female characteristics over males/masculine traits 9 times out of 10. More females attend and graduate from college and go on to find sustainable employment than males. Financially, younger, pre-wall females make more money per hour than younger men do now. Basically, the majority of young men today have been largely cut off from this entire hugeass fucking avenue of achieving status and differentiating oneself from the herd by attaining financially independence/stability/succedd, thus forcing them, in order to be able to compete sexually, to either double down on bullshit gym culture and looksmaxing and whatnot, trying to "become" the absurd manufactured hyperreal paragon of masculinity that is Chad, or to just drop out of the competition and become khv neets and/or trannies.

Men in the past weren't ugly.
Most men weren't overweight or obese. Most men were decently physically attractive, had jobs that kept them active, dressed well and groomed.
Most men my age sit at home playing videogames and smoking weed, are chubby, dress like shit, eat like shit, look like shit and get smashed every other weekend.
So do women.

I literally want to choke you through the internet for being so stupid. You're not understanding the concept of relativity, like the basketball analogy I made. Like the OP was getting at, the standards to be attractive for a woman are plummeting, while men are still held to an extremely high standard for genetic fitness. Only today can a woman be mediocre in every way possible, and still have a great life. And yes I will hate you until they bury me in a grave for that.

My grandfather had to work every day of his life 14 hours a day of bonebreaking work and still live in poverty. I'm studying in college, enjoying learning and having fun with friends. Once I graduate I will get a nicely paid job and take vacations around the world.

You are incredibly stupid. In your grandfather's generation, you would have died a long time ago because nobody would protect a mentally retarded weak lazy loser.

Men aren't interested in society because women have rights now? Kek.

>Financially, younger, pre-wall females make more money per hour than younger men do now.
Going to need a source on this.

women's right means they just have monopoly thru democrazy to dictate whatever they want which means men will get shittier deals overtime. the only way to counter this is to drop out and stop caring about the said society.

>My grandfather had to work every day of his life 14 hours a day of bonebreaking work and still live in poverty.
Yeah, because he had 15 children to provide for, that he got from the woman who wanted to fuck his useless mediocre wagecuck ass, you stupid pile of shit.

Did I not just fucking say that my job 30 years ago didn't require a degree, and yet today it requires at least a BS? You're a fucking college kid why are you even arguing with me? Have you ever had a full time job? Do you live with your parents? Go away

Why would the same phenomenon (population getting fatter) make the standards for women plummet while the standards for men raise? Again, when 3/4 of men are obese, if you're the thin one you're better than most of your peers. Be thin, you're better than the competition.
A lot of mediocre men have girlfriends too.

the only reason our shitty grandfather was able to do his wageslave duty was for a family and wife. can you get it thru your thick skull you fucking stupid roastie. no family and wife = no work. fucking stupid nigger.

This disingenuous fuck acting like feminism doesn't exist and isn't a dominant sociopolitical force in the west.

Women are getting pickier and pickier because they can afford to, and they can have less and less standards because they can afford to. Drop them off in eastern europe, where girls that are legit 9/10 and still struggle to find a husband that isn't a brick layer, and you will see the dynamics change. You have become so spoiled and lazy that you get away with being a mediocre human being, and are rewarded for it. but that is changing thank god.

Blame the fat angle.

Don't forget most women are way uglier than they appear and are therefore able to shoot out of their league destabilizing the natural selection they revere so dearly. This leads to the creation of more below average males and females where only the females end up reproducing while the males slowly die off as standards grow higher.

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Checked. And a potent observation as well.

You still haven't answered. You said that by being in shape a woman is much better than most of her peers - so is a man.
How does being better than the competition have a positive effect on the market value of women but a negative one on men?
Both women and men are more and more lazy.

The only difference between now and the 50s (and women in eastern Europe or poorer countries) is that a lot of young women in western world don't need a man to provide for themselves so they don't want to settle with someone they don't really like. They marry for love, not for convenience.

>They marry for love, not for convenience.
good, let's kill some roasties and faggots.

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No woman marries for love, you are seriously delusional if you believe that. A guy being in shape doesn't mean SHIT, most young men that want to get laid are in the gym constantly. But women aren't. I literally never see women under 40 in gyms unless they just had a kid. Why? Because you don't have to. The threshold to be attractive is set so low today that your chubby skinnyfat ass can just put on a pair of yoga pants or high waisted jeans and you're automatically the equivalent of a guy thats like an 8/10. This is not how it is outside the west, in eastern europe and asia you will never get a husband or any decent guy if you're chubby.

You are trying to argue with incels. Their mental capabilities are that of a woman with an IQ of 70.

That's purely anecdotal.
Literally all my friends go to the gym and watch their diet. Like, there's not ONE of us who doesn't count calories and go to the gym or do some sport at least 4 times a week.
One of my friends at work today told me she got fat, she's 120 lbs and 5'8".
And we're all college educated, in our mid 20s, making 50-60k$/year at least. And one of them is single and virgin.

Incels never explain their math. In the world you live in, all women can take their pick of the top 20% of men. This means there are 5 times more men than women. But... this is clearly not the case. So how do you explain this?

not him but there is two things to explain things kind of phenomenom:
not gonna spoonfeed you. google female dual mating strategy.
the other part of that equation is polygamy being on the rise. women would rather share a chad than abstain from him and have a beta fuck them.

>one of my ugly ass fuck friends is virgin
you are explaining this to a board full of male virgins so fuck off nigger
women sleep around like whores in their youth which makes up for it, not all of em thought but still. incels themselves need no explaining because they are very real.
youtube.com/channel/UCo1qRcO1OehgkOD_fHsu_uQ just watch this guys video since he's not a total retard.

She's very cute (and also thin), probably a 7.5/10. She's religious and most men in their early 20s won't abstain till marriage.

>polygamy being on the rise
Source
>women would rather share a chad than abstain from him and have a beta fuck them
Source

Exactly, though I believe its me being realistic more so than insecure.
Like have you even tried to have sex with a gorgeous woman? You feel mad pressured to perform well.
Also lol at your analogy never said go fuck a half dog demon spawn, just shoot down