Dealing with the black dog

Hey Jow Forums

Any advice for leashing the black dog (depression)?

Im at a complete loss. Im struggling to get out of bed most days.

I used to work out 6 days a week, I was pursuing a degree, I had a girl. Happiest I've ever been, and I thank places like this for helping me get there as stupid as that sounds.

But now? Im a wreck. The girl I thought was mine screwed me over, I've dropped out of university, I cant find the mental discipline to lift anymore. I've been out of work for a while, I don't socialise much, as I just dont feel the desire to anymore.

I want to start lifting again, I want to get my life back to how it was, but something just feels empty.

Any advice is appreciated

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friend.

ive been where you are

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you dont have to have super strict lifting routine, just do something to excercise

Stay Strong user. There can't be high points without low points. When you wake up, do not look at your phone or any technology. Get moving with pushups, a shower etc. and get a good start to the day and watch things change.

Op, I can honestly say the biggest thing is finding something worth fighting and living for. On days that I feel like I’m an autistic failure, I remember how far I’ve come and the battles I’ve fought, my brothers in arms and the stories I’ve lived through. Use the historical example of Robert the Bruce: at the lowest point of his fight for freedom, he was stuck in a cave, his army in tatters and the English combing the countryside for him. In the cave he saw a spider continuously try to make a web, but the constant downpour destroyed it each and every time. He wondered about the futility of the spider’s task, why it kept making the web despite failing each time. But one day, he woke up, and the web still stood, intact. He understood then what he had been looking for, that even when life is closing in around you and things look bleak, never, ever give up. He wound up leading his people to freedom, as you will lead yourself to a better tomorrow.

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stay strong user.

I've been where you are now. Things like this take time. Just keep forcing yourself to go to the gym and socialize and eventually(in time) you'll find the light at the end of the tunnel. Time heals all things.

I'll look into Vit D, thankyou.

Appreciate the reply. Yeah, I do think some sort of technology detox might be worthwhile, especially in terms of social media.
I've dragged myself to gym a couple of times the past few months, but I can't get myself thorugh my usual workout, hopefully I can get things back piece by piece. Thanks again for the reply

Thankyou. What you've posted is definitely true. A sense of purpose is definitely something every young guy needs. I think that's where a lot of my issues stem from, what felt like my "purpose" just doesn't seem to be the same anymore. Again, thankyou, tomorrow will be better I hope.

Hopefully so brother, right now it feels like time has just been passing me by, and there a sense that at 20 im wasting some of the "prime" years of my life

user, I'm just entering the same spot you're in.

I'm not really sure why but Im feeling really depressed, just got out of working out and my hiper sensibility that I'm having just fucked up the night with my girl.

At this point I'm really scared to go down the hole since I'm starting to live by myself and I have responsibilities that I just can't throw away like I used to do when I was younger.

I started running just for beating the shit out of my depression and my addictions, but now it seems that working it just gets me really bad mentally.

It is not my intention to make you feel bad, but I want to let you know that I'm with you user, and I really hope we can get mental stability and gains.

Keep fighting and my best wishes to you, dear unknown.


P.d. sorry for my English

Don’t just hope for a better tomorrow, fight for it. Life wasn’t meant to be easy, if it was easy what point would it have? Without evil, would good even be good, and without struggle, would triumph be worth anything at all? The power for a better tomorrow is in your hands, you are the architect of your fate. Don’t hope, do, believe in yourself and believe in your purpose while living up to those ideals you set for yourself. Stay strong brother, but in doing so live beyond hope and be strong in ways you can’t yet imagine.

It's tough at times. We'll both make it. I wish you the best brother.

Thankyou, mindset/outlook is definitely key. I'll work on things slowly, get back to what I used to be. Appreciate the reply, bro.

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I hope you can gleam some good habits from the advice people are giving you. Similar to you, last year I was hit with a number of mentally debilitating events. What worked for me was:

- not waking up late; wake up when everyone else would. I work a 9-5 job, so I would get up at the same time every single day, even the weekends
- set up a routine; you need to keep your mind occupied. I found depression would amplify when I was idle, so I created events in my calendar to fill my day (for weekends, because typically I'm working)
- listen to audiobooks, youtube videos, read self help. This one really helped me because it helped me form habits. Sure, they can give you motivation, but when you have those really shit days, that motivation evaporates. What I got from these sources was building up habits that formed the backbone of discipline. When shit days come (and they will always come), you have something to give you resiliency and mental fortitude.

There are some that posit that life is suffering by default. That is, doing absolutely nothing will do you no favours in digging you out of your deficit, and that we must continually put in effort to tip the scales. If you have trouble getting passed the front door, try to set your house/room in order. At least in this way, you reduce the things that become a mental burden in your closest domain.

I firmly believe that people can't transcend their current selves until a great deal of suffering takes place. I know you can't see it now, but when you make it through, OP (yes you will make it), you'll be thankful for this opportunity. If only you knew of the you that lies beyond this dark time.

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No problem man, the reason I reply is because I find myself thinking the exact same thoughts as you too many times for comfort. Just stay positive but keep fighting the good fight

>tfw been miserable my entire 26 years of life and honestly dont even know if im depressed

Start seeing a physcologist, look up some mindfulness stuff and start meditating.

youtu.be/pzMhLmErz5Q here is a beginner video I like and used a fair bit.

Really try to get back into the gym, at least for me I remind myself how good I feel afterwards regardless of how sluggish unmotivated I am and that usually gets me there, the mental health benefits are insane imo.

Also maybe do a bit of research about the effects of psilocybin for depression and see what you think.

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I feel your pain OP. I can't say I'm in quite the same spot, but my gf of 6 months just left. I know 6 months wasn't much but it was the best 6 months of my life, and she introduced me to rock climbing, which I'm near addicted to.

It's so incredibly hard to get my ass in there, because she still goes and I think is already seeing someone.. which is why she left.

Listen to . Get into a routine and try your absolute hardest not to break it.

This right here. I had an extremely down year, no real friends, some light drugs, terrible diet etc. There has to be destruction for you to even want to rebuild. My roughest year of life was 2 years ago but I am such a changed person I cant imagine going back

user I believe in you. Do it for yourself. The sun doesn't rise until you pull it up....Gotta earn that sunrise. Every day put that rock up the mountain; every night it falls; and you start again. i believe in you bro, that was me at the start of last year. I'm down 20 pounds, I'm getting better. Let's get better together alright

I've been there, m8. Doctors put me on SSRIs and all. They helped for a bit, but made me unstable. The problem wasn't chemical, it was the rut I'd carved for myself.

One day I'd had enough, and I decided on a routine: make my bed first thing in the morning. I didn't have to do anything else. Sometimes I made my bed and then did nothing else all day, sitting in a NEET cave, staring at my blank computer screen, but there was something about a made bed that pushed me to look at other things: put away the pencils on my desk. Organize my papers. Throw out the garbage. Soon I had a room I could show my friends, and I felt proud of it.

It was maybe twenty minutes of actual work spread out over two weeks, but it felt like a big improvement. And once you have that feeling, the setbacks in your future don't stand a chance, because you know you've done something.

So find a routine. It can be as simple as drinking a glass of water as soon as you wake up, but as long as it's something, it will push you up bit by bit.

Some day that black dog will be an old friend, instead of a burden. That's how I feel, now. I hope you will feel that way, too.

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Stop dwelling on yourself. Go help somebody else.

Not bullshitting you here. Either you will become so busy and enveloped in your mission you will forget about your depression, or you will find genuine fulfillment in being able to help others. Or both.

Trust me. The best way out of depression is to help other people.

I know that I get bouts of depression if I'm not living according to my goals and values. It feels like an incongruence with my long-term goals and almost like I've betrayed myself

What I've done that has helped has been vitamin d and zinc supplementation. Taking time out to meditate/pray. Create a bullet point list of things that I'm not happy about and each day fix at least one of those things.
When it gets really bad and I don't want to leave bed, I think about my Grandpa. I remember how he lived and how he treated me well. I think about how bad he would feel about me mistreating his grandson, myself. I remember how long he's been gone and realize that any day isn't guaranteed to me. I could go out tomorrow and be killed and my family will remember me as someone that gave up and spent all my time in bed. Being remembered as someone who pitied themselves, instead of the way I remember my Grandpa. So I get up and I do my routine even if I'm not feeling positive at all and I keep working at small things until I've forgotten to be despondent. It sometimes takes weeks and occasionally takes months but if I keep doing it, a step at a time, and meditating honestly on death I reach a point where I'm not in despair.

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Stay busy, pickup a new hobby, occupy your mind. Don't sit infront of a screen all day. Gym every day. Spend time with friends and family. Building a drift car, fitness and motorcycles got me out of my mid-20s slump.

Bro, don't let some chick ruin your favorite hobby. Go be the best fucking scrambler in there and make her regret leaving you.

Read a book called Darkness Visible by William Styron.