Why do so many people have sex for pleasure today? Isn't sex biologically supposed to be only for baby making?

Because it feels nice, which is the same reason why people fucked for millions of years. There is no desire to have lots of children, there is a desire to have lots of sex.

Bonobo Chimps, our closest living relative, literally fuck as a way of saying hello to each other.

Dolphins are known for being especially randy, known to suck each other's cocks and fuck anything that moves. Yes, people have actually been raped by dolphins (or at the very least had a dolphin pin them to the sea floor and dry hump them)

Pig orgasms are known to last for 30 minutes

Asking that question is like asking why people enjoy eating delicious food when food is only supposed to be fuel and you could make do with some nutrient sludge. Dick and pussy have nerve endings, stimulating them is pleasurable. Thousands of animals have been documented engaging in non-essential sexual activity, but only one species makes a big deal out of it

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Hedonism is devoting your life to short term pleasure seeking, not just the act of pleasure seeking.

whenever i feel bad about being a loser i have to remember and be thankful that at least im not like you guys

Oh no sex is so powerful you can combine it with holding in piss for more pleasure.

Western society has been literally dead for 50 years, it's just now the boomers stopped pretending. We are going to be replaced by something stronger, either a revived west, the islamic world, or as slaves to China

What the fuck has to do this thread with history or humanities

>i have to remember and be thankful that at least im not like you guys
you mean having an active sex life?

Stay mad, permavirgin

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*gets aids*

At least your not like what exactly? I simply stated a fact here.

i mean being a braindead shallow retard
being a virgin loser sucks, but being you sucks infinetely more

at least i have a brain and a working conscience

Same. We're supposed to be better than animals not succumb to our primal instincts. Im not perfect myself though i have masturbation addiction and sugar addiction.

the saddest part of all is that they see themselves superior
imagine if you renounced your humanity and decency and was proud of it

Humans are always hedonist, friends give you pleasure thats why you have them, learning new information(science) gives pleasure, fighting(war) causes please etc

It feels good

What is it called when someone stretches the definition of a word beyond its meaning?

im so sick of this shit answer
it always felt good and yet people werent always mindless animals

Make that 229 years

>Why do so many people have sex for pleasure today?
>today

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Hue Heffner had lots of sex with lots of women because he had money and was famous/infamous. That aside, the guy you're quoting is still pathetic because prostitutes are trivially easy to obtain in most of the industrialized world now.

>Pic
Actual cringe

People have always been mindless animals. What magical period in the past where people didn't fuck for pleasure are you referring to?

Of course it always existed. But people are public with how many partners they had etc without getting shamed. There is Sex every where too nowadays, in ads, music

I think the standard view of non-educated people is something similar to Bentham's hedonism. See

i meant to those magical times before modernity when moral standards existed

Ethics is humanities

People have always been fucking for pleasure, we are of the few animals that are in heat all year, now, that doesn't make it good, I suggest you to study Epicurus.

Vit C deficiency. Should've had an orange instead like they were taught in school.

Look at that old roman graffiti that's been meme'd to death on here. Literally nothing has changed. We love to fuck and feel good, that will never change.
Pretty sure tons of ancient songs were about love and sex.

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>I suggest you to study Epicurus
Why would you ever suggest that?

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Sex = chemical release which causese enjoyment.

You might as well ask why people try to achieve their goals, or why people exercise or why people enjoy the outdoors.

Because sex is one of the most pleasurable things a man can do alongside killing Germans

I'm not him, but Epicurus' hedonism was ascetic.

If sex wasn't pleasurable then there wouldn't be near as many people alive as there is today

late rome was a decadent degenerate civilization which collapsed because of it
stop using it as an example, it can only work with people who have no clue about history and culture and just want confirmation to their modernist self-delusions

people werent always degenerates so no

we are literally whining since cave times that we are losing ancestor's values

If you think there was ever a time when the Romans weren't "degenerate" by the standards of modern religious conservatives and those influenced by them then it is actually you who has no clue about history.

>time when the Romans weren't degenerate
early kingdom and to a lesser extent late kingdom and early epublic
but nice try degenerate, i see how you are trying to rationalize your degeneracy

no we didnt
degenerate, decadent civilizations did
like ancient rome, ancient egypt and similar i nhteir advanced stages

You know they had slaves who they fucked whenever they wanted right

>falling for the noble roman citizen meme
Fuck off, Cincinnatus.

Not really. This kind of complaint usually happens when things are getting worse. Augustus and Cicero did make complaints like this and their times really were kind of bad.
In the West, complaints like this were common in the late 1960's and they were right.

The Romans were mostly prudish people.

Nope, I put my time in and now I'm married to a woman without disease. I'm not a fay man.

>this much cope
You're still just a pathetic beta loser rationalizing his own lack of initiative

You know who else had lots of money and was famous? Bill Cosby and Harvey Weinstein.

It's fucking great for triggering the incel brigade who are basically the nu-moralfags of Jow Forums

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slavery as institution was very dynamic and turned into form know in popular media only later when rome got richer
not even to talk about the fact that it is not about individual acts of people
you are pretty brave for someone who actually has no clue about history, degenerate

They were allowed to, this didn't mean this was seen in a positive light, since this meant they were letting their passions take the better of them.
The "perfect Roman" would be a guy who would only have sex with his wife for the sake of procreation.

>be true Roman citizen
>have three slaves, two women and two boys that I bang literally whenever I want
>spend half my day in a bath house with naked strangers
>go to my buddy's house for a dinner party and more slave fucking
>lie in bed exhausted from bathing with naked strangers and slave fucking
>drift off to thoughts about how aggressive NEET's on Jow Forums will insist that I was prude in 2000 years from now

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>pathetic beta loser
im not rationalizing anything, i openly admit it, i would have sex and live social life if i could, but i cant

im saying im glad im not a shallow boomer moron like you

Slaves did not count as adultery, they were seen as free use lmao holy shit dude this is basic stuff.

One of the dumbest things ive ever read

>if I could be a normie If I could
>b-but not a happily married boomer! haha

>>You know who else had lots of money and was famous? Bill Cosby and Harvey Weinstein.
That's nice, but this has nothing to do with the fact that Hue Heffner would not have had harems of playboy girls if he wasn't rich and famous. Oh and both of the above mentioned men had women willingly have sex with them too.

>The "perfect Roman" would be a guy who would only have sex with his wife for the sake of procreation.
utterly fucking retarded. In Pompeii there are actual dicks carved right into the stone pointing in the direction of the brothel, and their graffiti was as raunchy as ours

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Sex? Pleasure? Where is this place that sex rates aren't declining?

do you seriously think no one fucked for fun in the history of mankind until the 1960s?

You don't need to be a shallow boomer moron to have sex. You just have to have your priorities and attitude in the right place and be willing to invest in yourself.

brainwashing

are you retarded or what?
i said clearly that im a loser and i cant be a normie even if i wanted (because i lack social skills, dont have any initiative or drive and have an unlikeable character)
still doesnt change that you and your boomer kind are the bottom of the bottom, shallow people who wallow in their own filth of materialism and conformism

Did you get your history knowledge from HBO's Rome?
If a Roman man had this kind of lifestyle, he would be considered effeminate, which was pretty much the worst insult for male Romans.

Or you know, be either willing to hire a prostitute or know how to spot and manipulate a woman with daddy issues. The self-improvement meme is unnecessary for getting pussy.

Hugh Hefner was widely loved by all of his bunnies, who referred to him as more like their best friend than their boss, and was always discreet about the offer for sex, using the phrase, "Do you want to go upstairs?" and never had to force himself on anyone, unlike the other two mentioned.

Hugh Hefner had mad game, that's why he was scoring the hottest pussy until well into his 70s and 80s. Money and power will only carry you so far

>You don't need to be a shallow boomer moron to have sex
im talking about the general attitude which i associate with boomers
>You just have to have your priorities and attitude in the right place and be willing to invest in yourself
my priorities are radically different since things you find important and normal i find disgusting and abhorrent

I would agree, that is a quite pleasurable feeling. Do you get that jerk in your body after too?

its not about individual acts but about general trends and attitudes which if oyu think havent changed you are utterly retarded

incel monologue tier
are you the italian from this afternoon on pol?

>Or you know, be either willing to hire a prostitute or know how to spot and manipulate a woman with daddy issues.
And *I'm* the one accused of being shallow...

Have fun with your syphilis and baby-mommas who hate your living guts even as they make off with your paycheck

Show me literally any primary source that considers slave fucking effeminate.

That chemical release which causes enjoy,emt was nature's best way to incentivize reproduction. Humans cheating it is against their best interests.

>im talking about the general attitude which i associate with boomers
Then you're a fucking delusional moron because I'm not even close to being a fucking Baby Boomer.
>my priorities are radically different since things you find important and normal i find disgusting and abhorrent
Like personal hygiene?

"Slaves did not count as adultery" doesn't mean they considered fucking them to be a good thing.

And? Brothels existing doesn't mean people were free love hippies.

not an incel (maybe technically i am, but i dont belong to subculture)
and i dont go to pol, got banned there some time ago

You live in a country where brothels are illegal you fucking weirdo.

>And? Brothels existing doesn't mean people were free love hippies.
what about all the grafitti?
>I.2.20 (Bar/Brothel of Innulus and Papilio); 3932: Weep, you girls. My penis has given you up. Now it penetrates men’s behinds. Goodbye, wondrous femininity!

>I.2.23 (peristyle of the Tavern of Verecundus); 3951: Restitutus says: “Restituta, take off your tunic, please, and show us your hairy privates”.

>I.4.5 (House of the Citharist; below a drawing of a man with a large nose); 2375: Amplicatus, I know that Icarus is buggering you. Salvius wrote this.

Such paragons of saintly virtue!

>Then you're a fucking delusional moron because I'm not even close to being a fucking Baby Boomer.
i didnt say you are a boomer, i merely associated your behaviour of conformism and materialism, of accepting mindlessly some social acts and shunning independent thinking to boomers - but perhaps thats a gen z trait too
>Like personal hygiene?
like being a shallow motherfucker who is led with his dick and mouth through life and accepts social norms for granted

people were getting their rocks off bumping uglies since the dawn of mankind. Sure, there's a movement nowadays, but you are never a stones throw away in history from some odd sex act or rumor. Try reading Shakespeare's comedies or Aristophanes, even Euripides' The Cyclops and tell me how prudish they were.
The greeks, letting their penchant for underage rent-boys aside, had festivals for rape-orgies.
If you think the trend and attitude away from rape, arranged marriages, and pedophilia towards consensual sex and stricter anti-rape/anti-pedophile law is negative, you are one twisted mind buddy.

Dude, once you get laid you'll realize you're being a fucking clown right now.

It does feel like we have regressed back. It seems like at some point we conquered our instincts and worked against them (which is after all what is means to be civilized) and then we regressed back to this state of fucking for fun.

well anyway what the guys said is true, they don't necessarily have to agree with it but it's the most fit answer to op's question
i really dont have that much sexual exp to be teaching around, but it feels good to have sex
never had casual sex tho

>Not the least significant part of the life of luxury and self indulgence lies also in sexual excess; for example those who lead such a life crave a variety of loves not only lawful but unlawful ones as well, not women alone but also men; sometimes they pursue one love and sometimes another, and not being satisfied with those which are available, pursue those which are rare and inaccessible, and invent shameful intimacies, all of which constitute a grave indictment of manhood.
>Men who are not wantons or immoral are bound to consider sexual intercourse justified only when it occurs in marriage and is indulged in for the purpose of begetting children, since that is lawful, but unjust and unlawful when it is mere pleasure-seeking, even in marriage.
>But of all sexual relations those involving adultery are most unlawful, and no more tolerable are those of men with men, because it is a monstrous thing and contrary to nature.
>But, furthermore, leaving out of consideration adultery, all intercourse with women which is without lawful character is shameful and is practiced from lack of self-restraint.
>So no one with any self-control would think of having relations with a courtesan or a free woman apart from marriage, no, nor even with his own maid-servant.
>The fact that those relationships are not lawful or seemly makes them a disgrace and a reproach to those seeking them; whence it is that no one dares to do any of these things openly, not even if he has all but lost the ability to blush, and those who are not completely degenerate dare to do these things only in hiding and in secret.

id say once you get a critical mind and a conscience you will start acting like a human being instead of an animal, but we both know that aint gonna happen

Brainlet spotted and reported

getting defensive there arent we?
anyways i will now stop talking to you since i go to Jow Forums to get some rest from redit and talking to you kinda defeats that purpose

>but perhaps thats a gen z trait too
Thanks for outing yourself as just another Millenial with an entitlement complex. I swear it's dipshits like you giving the rest of us a bad fucking name.

And you know what kind of woman wants a man who practices conformity and Materialism? pure Christian virgins, the kind who doesn't want a man who rocks the spiritual boat and will provide material comfort and support for his family as is his duty as a Christian man/

>like being a shallow motherfucker who is led with his dick and mouth through life and accepts social norms for granted
Shallow motherfuckers attract shallow women. Complex, cool motherfuckers attract complex, cool women. Slovenly manbabies who think they're entitled to a qt3.14 with pornstar-grade looks aren't attractive to nobody

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No, I don't?

You are taking brothel graffiti in a Holiday villa as what the average of Roman people were. This is like taking bathroom graffiti from a party town as the average of today.

i dont think you really understood the angle i was approaching this from

>Dude, once you get laid
Whenever I see someone posting this, I think of a weed smoker with a low IQ.

based

ran out of argument haven't we?

made me laugh lel

I was like you dude, I promise you this is a phase that you are in because deep down you do want to get laid, and you need to find a way to find superior to others. Your story is a constantly recurring one. Having sex for pleasure is one of the most human things you can do, animals fuck just to breed. You have it backwards.