If bad people get away with doing bad things then what is the point of being a good guy?

to get away with doing good things.

Who are you kidding, left looks like a whore too.

I've been thinking about this a lot lately
I've never been punished in my whole life for doing something wrong
But I've been punished a lot for doing nothing wrong

Well in America, justice is bought so if you fight back against injustice you will get fucked by the judicial system

I live in a state, for example, where you are not allowed to use a gun in self defense until you make an attempt to flee first

If you do "good" for rewards, you are no different than people doing evil for rewards

Because being good yourself inspires others to be good. It may seem like bad people always get away with their shit but if you keep being good and working towards making the world a better place then things will change.

>complaining about not having a free pass to kill people
You are not good either lol

Its not about doing good for rewards.

Its about when bad people get away with being shitty and doing shitty things to you but you turn the other cheek like a "good" person.

Its about how rather than being rewarded, being good gets punished, making it seem all the more pointless and even wrong sometimes. Just look at any superhero story, they all get shit on by everyone even though they risk their lives every day saving people

To remind everyone they meet that they're also good guys.

It is about doing good for rewards because you complain about the bad guys getting the reward. Then you even make the conclusion, that if the bad guy gets the reward, why not be bad instead? Because you dont want to be good, you want the reward, being good was just the means to the end, until you figured out that it doesnt actually work and instead being bad gets you the reward.

The truth is the world does not reward neither the good nor the bad. It rewards the strong. If we want the world to be good, it us up to us to fight the bad and sacrifice for good. If you don't like that, then being good is not your thing.

Virtue is overrated when it's making nothing happen, or at least making nothing moderately interesting happen. Will you look back from your deathbed at the all things you didn't do, because you were too eminently sensible to? Give in to your vices, virtue is a bore. I mean, virtue is so passive, it lets nothing in or out. It's the butter that you never swallow, melting in your mouth. And history hates the virtuous, Nietzsche tells us so, but adores the ones who dare to make a mess across the floor. Cultivate your vices, virtue is a bore

You really must act de facto to make anybody even care; just create a sticky situation and you're already halfway there. Read the Bible: even God agrees with me, his lowlife-loving son said they much prefer the sinners to the dull, obedient ones. Cultivate your vices, virtue is a bore. Think about it once: you can be right doing nothing, but it's like being a stopped clock. It produces much more rejoicing when you're evil then you're not, so there's really no excuse for not putting effort in. Just get out there and, as Iggy said, find some weird sin. Cultivate your vices, virtue is a bore

Milton, when the government proposed to censor books, once said no virtue untested is ever worth two hoots, but merely testifying to a failed imagination, that is, the feet of clay required to stay indifferent to temptation. Give in to your vices, virtue is a bore. So cultivate your vices like tiny bonsai trees, and listen to St Augustine or listen to me. But remember, I might very well be bluffing. They don't call me Old Nick for nothing. >:)

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there is no point, you just feel good with yourself by being nice but if you don't then you're probably full of resentment towards something

Your not talking about anything new. No one has really said that virtue is a universal force of the universe. Obviously its not. The point of virtue has always been that which we see as good, but something that always depends on us fighting for it to make it a reality.

Nothing you said is remotely interesting or thought provoking. You're basically saying "if no one stops you you can get away with doing bad things". Yeah no, shit sherlock. Thats the fucking point. Thats why we have governments and police to arrest criminals.

Jesus, the absolute state of edgy kids these days.

You do realize that by doing this you make only enemies right? Even the weakest man can put a knife in you while you sleep.
It pays to be kind because it lowers the chances of you being screwed over if you're also smart enough to recognize that people will still try to screw you. History will also remember you fondly should you become something important, instead of calling you a blight onto the earth.

>Your not talking about anything new
>He thinks anybody has ever said anything "new" since we crawled out of the mud.
>You're basically saying "if no one stops you you can get away with doing bad things".
ACKSHUALLY, I'm saying you should do bad things because it's not only more fun, but more genuine/authentic than hollowly trying (and constantly failing) to adhere to some inane, inhuman, inaccessible, impractical ideal.
>Thats why we have governments and police to arrest criminals.
Kek. You think politicians and police obey the fucking laws they sanctimoniously write and pretend to enforce? Governments are composed of selfish, opportunistic, flesh and blood bags of meat and shit no different from you or me; they aren't angels, they're just more animals delusionally convinced that their laws and their gods are the TRUE ones, even as they hypocritically violate them at every opportunity while simultaneously posing themselves as paragons of justice and order to maintain their systems of control that they inflict upon us, the humble hoi polloi. You reactionary bootlicker spookbois are a riot.

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Not going to jail.

>It pays to be kind because it lowers the chances of you being screwed over if you're also smart enough to recognize that people will still try to screw you.
It pays to be kind to people who deserve kindness, and to screw over and betray people who deserve to be screwed and betrayed (irl most people)

Okay? No one said the government is not human, lmao. I'm explaining to you how virtue works since you couldn't understand it on your own somehow
>virtue, law and order and inaccessible ideas
Right, that's why we live in a civilization with law and order. If it were up to people like you, we'd still be living like niggers in Congo. Why don't you move there by the way? Everyone there agrees with you. There is no law and order there so you can do whatever you want freely. Serious question, why don't you move there? It has everything you want, and since you say you hatw virtue, law and order because they are holding you back from living live to the fullest, it only makes sense that you'd want to live in place that has none of that. Why are you still here?

That's why good girls like bad boys.

Thats very convenient
>everyone i screw over automatically deserved it, anyone i didn't screw over automatically doesn't deserve it

Only highly hypocritical idealist pseud retards who don't care about anybody want you to be a good person.

>Law abiding citizens should have to endure the evil acts of evil men so that the rights of said evil men aren't violated in the same way the citizens were
Yeah, makes perfect sense.

Can you answer the question?

OP pic is shoegaze vs dreampop

There's a certain savage nobility to niggers that I admire. True, their societies are consistently garbage, but at least they know and accept that they are fucking animals. They don't put on airs of existential significance the way we Europeans do, they don't disingenuously pose themselves as temporarily embarrassed angels merely en route to a new utopian technological Eden if only the correct combination of rights and laws and principles and rules can be ascertained.
The """rule""" you follow always leads you inexorably to pic related; honestly now, without appealing to some stupid superstitious bullshit like god or heaven, of what use is your rule?

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Why are you completely unable to answer a simple question?

you need to be alpha to get away with doing bad things

What makes you think I didn't provide an adequete, well-reasoned response to your simple question?

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You should do good unto good and evil unto evil. Doing good things for others increases the chance that they will do good things for you (not kill you, trade with you, help you, etc), while doing evil to evil individuals will lower the population/power of those who harm you. All of this is predicated on ability and strength, but the more strength you have to do good, the better off everyone involved will be.

You're retarded. I ask you why don't live in Congo you explain why law and order are stupid. Jesus, do you have a brain injury?

It makes no difference where you live brah. You're going to get fucked no matter what space you occupy.

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No comment on that but your mentality is one where automatically anyone you do bad to deserved it and anyone you dont do bad things to didnt. Which sounds suspiciously like, anyone i am strong enough to victimize deserves it, and anyone who is stronger than me doesn't.

>still can't answer a simple question

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It feels good knowing that you're better than everyone else. Nothing wrong with doing things for your ego

>I don't like your answer, so it doesn't exist!
Lol I bet you think voting makes an iota of difference, or that society teaches you how to read and provides for you and shelters you out of the sheer goodness of its heart and not because it expects you to returh the favor by being a good little taxpaying wageslave consumer goy automaton for the majority of your life.

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>still struggling, fighting, reaching, battling to not answer the question
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance

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user took a psych 101 class and now he knows what cognitive dissonance is, even if he can't apply it correctly. :,)

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I know she's a pornstar but what's her name? can't remember

>what's her name?

Wreck-it-Ralph

There is no such thing as "good" or "evil." Do what benefits you and fuck everything else, because if you don't, other people will.

This is the dumbest thread ever and I hope you all choke gn

Hope you choke too bastard

left looks so much cuter holy shit

This is what turns our society into a third world shithole.

Welcome to humanity, hope you enjoy your stay. Life is about survival of the fittest, so, fight or perish.

Omg fuck off with your grade school social darwinism you pile of dumb shit. and
make you look like a retard. Human interactions are just as dependent on cooperation as they are competition and honestly it's all out of your hands anyway, because, if you're white, you're in all likelihood genetically predisposed to want to help people and use technological and social innovation to try to achieve harmony and homeostasis, even though your societies always invariably implode upon themselves, as described in . You have no choice but to enjoy the cycle kek.

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Society collectively decided to put bad people in cages, people cheat but justice grows with more good people, if you become bad you could set us back to the stone age and experience more harm , because justice is mutually beneficial for billions of people science says accountability will win in the end. You gonna bet on the browns or patriots winning the super bowl?

Sure, humans COULD achieve so much more if we weren't all a bunch of selfish, short-sighted assholes. But, we are, so, it's pointless to hope for something that is never going to happen and just try to enjoy yourself.

Prisoners dilemma shows that its more beneficial for everyone to act good.

Don't get it twisted. I'm not advocating for hedonistic resignation. I'm advocating for acceptance. They aren't the same thing.

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>Sure, humans COULD build functioning societies if we weren't all a bunch of murderous, criminal assholed. But, we are, so, it's pointless to hope for something that is never going to happen and just try to enjoy yourself.
And look where we are now. Violent crime a rarity these days.

You are the type of people holding society back. Its not everyone, its YOU. YOU are like that. Not everyone else. YOU ARE THE PROBLEM.

>Violent crime a rarity these days.
Where is a violent crime a rarity? In your dying society which grows closer and closer to collapse every day? I don't think that's saying much.

There is no point. It's a dumb construct, just watch out for you and anyone you love, everyone else is irrelevant, being nice gets you no where

>It is about doing good for rewards because you complain about the bad guys getting the reward.
You can be good to be good but still think it's unfair that bad people are rewarded. That's like the basic logic at the heart of all religions.

I've never even seen a violent crime in 23 years of life

It's nice to see myself as a good person. Probably inaccurate, but nice enough to do some good shit once in a while.

Congratulations for being born during the twilight of the west. Would you like a medal?

he literally answered it you sub 60 iq motherfucker

What the fuck she goes from cute to sexy. I want to date that.

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Be the change you want to see in the world and all that jazz.

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So what you're saying is violent crime isn't really down, it's just taking a break?

>like the one on the left more
She just has a more genuine smile on the left, that's just way more attractive than that bimbo look on the right imo

I agree user, both are beautiful but the picture on the left feels more comfy.

???? like its is now

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pretty funny, i dig the rhymes and the effort

Bad people who do bad things go to prison to be violently gangraped, unless you're into that, that is the perk of being good.

Do you really want to be like them?

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she really does look better on the left

thanks for that clip
searched it up and found the whole vid online
also found similar stuff through imdb link
thanks alot; opened up a whole new world to explore!

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there isn't if you live in an invidualist society

Sauce on this hot 18 yo dancing in that mini shirt?

Was that jap girl in the borat outfit a porn vid?

is it wrong for me to be liking left much better?

Yes, because you're being dishonest to virtue signal on a chinese cartoons forum.

>pic
Whoa, wtf? Are you telling me porn is fake?! Next you'll tell me the moon ain't made of cheese.

Not everyone gets away with doing bad shit though, and the point of being a good guy is because you want to. Literally that's it. Either you wake up wanting to be an asshole or you want to be nice to people so they'll be nice back.

>If bad people get away with doing bad things then what is the point of being a good guy?

- If you believe in the concept of the afterlife, then being a good guy gets you to heaven etc.
- because it feels good to be good to others, we humans have evolved in our brain conscience and empathy; these are biologically designed to reward us for performing altruistic acts. its what makes cooperation possible
- if you're not a psychopath or someone with impaired empathy, then doing bad things makes you feel guilty which is bad
- being a 'good guy' i.e. doing the 'morally-right' thing ultimately works in your self-interest because you signal to others that you are cooperative and are likely to be a mutually beneficial ally. I help my friend, he helps me back, win-win scenario
-it can be an ego boost thing, like you feel good knowing that you're a good guy, you don't have to live in fear or hide who you really are because you have no reason to

Women have no idea what men want holy shit go back to back you stupid roast

Because the guy carrying the gun will ultimately be the one who kills some body at the end of the day. Assuming the fight is over something dumb. It's better to try to leave if you know things will escalate until you need to draw your gun

Prison is filled with bad people who did not get away with doing bad things.

If every bad person got away with doing bad things there'd be no prisons. Besides, even a lot of the ones who get away with it for a long time don't get away with it forever.

>not really a "fake nice guy"
>but can't help but think about all the genuinely nice, kind people I've ever met, including myself most of the time, who despite being so, can't ever seem to catch a break in relationships or success in work
>meanwhile, can't help but think about all the people I've met who were genuine assholes who've had many sexual partners, been married, were successful managers, etc.

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None. The end justifies the means. A utopian society will never exist in our lifetime. Just look at how the 1% and their corporations and banks manipulate your puppet gov'ts and all the citizens. How do you think the rich get richer? By taking advantage of other people. There is no hope desu. Even a collective reasoning won't change it.

read 'just world theory'

fuck i dont know why girls wear make up they look so fucking bad

"Good" and "bad" are subjective. Morality is a social construct.

To die knowing you were right and influencing others to do the same. This doesn't apply to the friendless losers on Jow Forums though.

Thats a lot of buzzwords. I think youre just too cynical from years of festering resentment so you would rather condemn anyone who is nice than do it yourself

Prefer the term "Just World Fallacy" myself.

Has it ever occurred to you maybe then that niceness is not a factor when it comes to attractiveness?
Even from a biological evolutionary standpoint it makes no sense
All that matters is genes , status
So it makes sense that even if a guy is a murderer (like that Jeremy Meeks guy) women will drop their panties cause they find them hot
If anything being aggressive and mean is what women like

Personally, I don't care if being good isn't beneficial in terms of monetary or social gain, I'm good because for me it's the right thing to do, even in this chaotic world, all ever wanted to be was a superhero and give people hope, I want to make this world a better place, if that means I have to give up my life for it, so be it

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I'm a happy dude, and I like people too much to be bad. I can't imagine I would be as happy if I treated people poorly.

Though, I don't recommend being stupid nice, as in putting other peoples needs infront of your own all the time. You'll end up bitter, and make a post about it on r9k.