Sometimes, I want to believe that the things that happen in my dreams are somehow indicative of things in reality. But I'm probably being completely irrational. Or am I? I don't know what to make of it all...
There are a few other things that make me question the "non-realness" of dreams.
1. The continuity of my dream world. My dreams don't consist of random adventures in random imagined places every time. Frequently I'll visit parts of the dream world where I've already been multiple times.
2. The lack of randomness. Dreams aren't like static on a television screen, it isn't just neurons firing randomly. Every dream is like a story.
3. My ability to recall my dreams increases greatly when in a semi-dream state. I'd challenge you all to try this because when I first figured it out it blew me away. When you wake up at night and you're laying there still sort of half asleep, try thinking about dreams you've had in the past. You'll find you're able to recall them much more easily and vividly than you normally could, even dreams you may have forgotten about completely.
I'm asking Jow Forums because Jow Forums is the closest we have to a philosophy/psychology board. I'm not asking /x/ because they're retarded.
In my dreams, most of the people I meet seem to be wandering around in a confused state and are chasing petty objectives. Almost as if they are dreaming too.
>3. My ability to recall my dreams increases greatly when in a semi-dream state.
To add some clarity to this - this interests me particularly because if any of you have ever tried to keep a dream journal, you're well aware that it's almost necessary to lie there completely still after you've awoken to recall the dream you've just had, because if you get up out of bed you'll tend to forget it completely, or at least a lot of the details of the dream.
I always attributed this to simply forgetting the dream because you waited too long to write it down, like forgetting the plot of a movie because you haven't seen it in a long time. But it doesn't seem to have anything to do with time at all - if you can get back into this semi-dream state that you're in immediately after waking, you'll be able to recall the dream again.
It's as though we have separate dream memories that can only be accessed when our brain is in a certain state.
Noah Howard
Everything is Maya. Dreams are no more nor less real than "reality".
Adam Richardson
Sometimes, I remember the transition from the waking world to the dream one. It feels like i'm being pressed through a thin veil. Once it envelopes my face, there is a sensation of being submerged in water (Kind of like sliding into a bathtub.) and then i'm dreaming.
Nolan Bell
Why are you and your Christcucked pals spamming this shit? Go push your modified Judaism elsewhere.
Whenever I dream about someone in particular I always get the urge to ask them if they had dreamt about me too, but I don't want them to think I'm insane. And well, I probably would be insane for asking that because if there were some sort of "shared dream world", we would've figured that out a long time ago.
I still can't help but think about it every time though, especially after a particularly powerful dream.
Nathaniel Rodriguez
Dreams are another form of communication for humans. I'm a mentalist and have been studying the occult for a bit now and recently I've noticed that the barrier between sleep and wake has been more visible. I can tell when I am falling asleep and I often find myself aware when I am dreaming and end up thinking about real life during them.
Jeremiah Lewis
I had a dream that Alex Jones was president of America. He had a beard like Mel Gibson.
sometimes I will ask them what year it is, Very few will give the same answer.
Adam Campbell
I had a dream last night where a friend of mine was still alive. It is not real. >because Jow Forums is the closest we have to a philosophy/psychology board wew lad
Noah Kelly
Lovecraft was correct. When we dream our spirits go to a real place, the Dreamlands
Xavier Collins
I had a dream that predicted the strange events of a frustrating day. In the dream it happened to me, in reality when it happened to someone who was with me, all key details matched. It's really weird because seeing keynotes to events that have not happened yet make you question things...
Kayden Gutierrez
Last night I dreamed I was with my family in a strange rural farm country fair kind of place. My father wanted to ask where something was and went to 3 oldish men sitting on some seats for directions. They were extremely rude and didn't tell us anything, one of them even aggressively nudging my father with his cane. Their behavior angered me and I wanted to attack them, but restrained myself. As we walk away I turn toward them and sneeze in their faces. As we wander about the fair I begin to sense them following us. Here and there. As we sat in a covered cafe I spot one sitting nearby. A buxom woman is serving us coffee. For some reason I feel we need to "escape" - so I pick up some peas from a bowl and tip them into the woman's breasts. She begins to dance about and in the next "scene" she is a cow rushing as if stung by a wasp. Me and my family cling to the cow as it crashes into a barn as we make our getaway. Then I woke.
Owen Evans
This is just your mind playing tricks on you. I had a somewhat similar case years ago when working on a particular script I couldn't get to execute properly. Tried all day and still failed. The solution came to me in my sleep, first thing I did was write it down as soon as I woke up. The script worked on first try.
Chase Fisher
I had an out of body experience when I was 9. I flew above my house on the astral plane. It was vivid. I could see every detail of my neighborhood but there was no people or animals anywhere. It was daytime and bright sunlight even tho I was in bed at night. I traveled down the street to the park and was floating between the two baseball diamonds when I was snapped back. I woke up agitated and angry. It was real.
I also had another "dream" around the same time which was exactly like 'A Christmas Carol', when the spirit is showing Scrooge scenes from his life. I was looking at myself (as a boy) sitting on a swingset crying. It was my mother's funeral in the dream. I actually felt the grief of death, even after I woke up. I was abused by my parents and I always interpreted this dream as God telling me not to hate my mother.
Carson Myers
Now you're freaking me out.
Dominic Young
I had a friend who said he had such experiences too. My sister says she can "control" her dreams. Make things happen the way she wants.
Jayden Peterson
Funny, I also once dreamt the solution to a scripting problem, and just like you it was an actual real solution that really worked and not some sort of weird phony "dream solution".
Ryan James
Astral projection or OBEs are something I experienced, or at least the physical sensation of getting out of your body and then being lucid in an extremely vivid dream world. The law of one, by Ra is channeled material that has very interesting infos on planes and densities (planes on a grander scale of evolution basically). Good luck!
Juan Perez
I was actually contemplating making a dream thread based on my dream last night. I was in Jerusalem on the wall watch Jews poke and instigate bears on the top of the wall. When the bears got mad they lept at the Jew and the Jew moved out of the way leading to the bears falling to their death off the wall. I remember very vivid detail that the bears would have their entrails out all over the ground and they were still alive attempting to crawl away. Then Jews would pick them up in wheelbarrows and take them away. I interpreted this as Israel is about to trick Russia into their demise. >inb4 blogpost
>Are dreams real? Yes. The "imaginings" of your "mind" are as real as the hallucinations of your waking reality. Don't even consider the logic of pure materialists if you want to get remotely close to the truth on this subject. One day in the future, we'll have access to technology that can accurately measure the discreet actions of consciousness on our physical reality, which will be the beginning of the next era of human evolution.
Brandon White
I havent really had dreams for about 3 years now. I was dating a girl who had dreams all the time and it made me realize I didnt even remember the last dream I had. Any idea on why I would literally never remember having a dream once I woke up? I mean not even waking up in the middle of a dream and remembering it for a moment, no memory or feeling of any dreams. Any ideas?
Jack Morris
Stop smoking weed
Carson Carter
You can peek into your future when you're dreaming. It takes practice but you can literally see where you will be in next 10 or 20 years or whenever you desire. If you cannot see anything then you are dead in that time.
Levi White
As 674 said, stop smoking weed if you haven't tried that. Recovering my dreams was the one thing that really gave me any motivation to stop with smoking. You still dream when you smoke weed, and your subconscious still benefits from the dream, but your waking mind has nothing to decode upon waking.
Benjamin Diaz
That's just your subconscious mind working on the problem while your conscious mind is asleep. Your subconscious mind has access to your knowledge base and the problem. All the information is there.
I dreamed about a scenario before it happened. I had no prior knowledge or access to that information. I experienced the prediction and witnessed the proof.
Nathan Campbell
Ahh yeah I smoke weed. She does too but has ridiculous crazy vivid dreams constantly. Any idea on why weed impacts?
Jeremiah Rodriguez
100% this. I haven't had a dream in 10 years
Kevin James
NOT POLITICS, NEWFAG! GO BE A FUCKWIT SOMEWHERE ELSE!
Henry Brooks
i dreamt my adult daughter was pregnant and knew the sex of the baby before she even knew she was pregnant
That's lucid dreaming. When I was young I lucid dreamed all the time. I became aware I was dreaming and was able to explore and go on adventures. I used to think everyone knew about that and did that, I thought it was strange when people did not believe me.
Luke Cooper
That's strange. I smoke a lot of weed every day and I still get occasional ultra-vivid dreams
Ethan Flores
Wtf is this shit, is Jow Forums even a political board anymore?
Jeremiah Carter
No, dreams are visions.
For example, last night I saw a vision of USA annexing Australia(for some reason, visions did not tell) in 2019, or 2020.
William Carter
My guess is that the THC causes changes in your brain's short-term memory, which completely blows your dream recall out of the water. It's very possible your gf is just more intuitive and has a more active astral experience.
Ryder Green
About as much as Sweden is Swedish. You Finns never stop, do you?
Ryan Edwards
Funny, I smoked last night and still had very vivid dreams too. I've found that going to sleep with a distinct intention to remember your dreams has a strong effect on the result.
Lucas Smith
Consciousness is a dream too my friend.
Oliver Butler
Amazing. I hope she was married.
Thomas Reyes
When you're sleeping, you're very sensitive to the spiritual realm, both good and evil.
It is when the subconscious snatches tiny ideas to recode your DNA for evolutionary purposes. Dream of what you need user!
Dominic Foster
Christ, even Aussie dreams are shit-posts.
Elijah Ross
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Kayden Green
Sometimes dreams show us what the future will be like if we continue on our current path, and then when we wake up we change our path so that those things don't happen.
Justin Smith
Multiple times I've dreamt of things that later happened, but it's also been inane shit.
Cooper Sanchez
This is true, I've met reoccuring characters in my dreams that I only know from my dreams. The most lucid dreams I usually have will usually have one of them or a specific character other than myself.
Hunter Harris
I feel very content with where my conscious mind is but it was very disconcerting to me when I realized I had no dream recollection. Made me feel like maybe I sacrificed that side to have a greater conscious self. I would like to balance it out so was happy to see the topic.
Any ideas outside of smoking weed? Or additional insight into how to increase my subconscious or my connection to it?
Julian Torres
I’ve had many dreams that ended up happening. Same exact scene playing out but the plot (reason it was happening) was missing in the dream. Best example I had a dream my brother relapsed on drugs and I had him pushed against a wall yelling at him. I woke up from my dream and told my mom.. she said “that would never happen” 3 months later I had my brother pushed against a wall yelling at him for relapsing. The reason he relapsed is because my mom died.
Ryan Green
This.. See this...
Tyler Phillips
When I was a kid I had a dream that me and some friends were sitting in my kitchen only it was completely different in every way. Different layout, furniture, cabinets, appliances, but 100% knew it was my kitchen. A few months later my house caught on fire and we had to move out for a bit while it was remodeled. I had nothing to do with the process, picking of furniture etc and couldnt impact it. When we moved back in I was sitting with a couple friends in the kitchen and realized it was that exact moment from my dream.
Liam Gray
Absolutely not! It's not God's will that you smoke weed!
If you contact the spirit realm outside God's will, you will get demons and trouble. It's a VERY dangerous path to take!
Repent from weed, and accept Jesus.
Jonathan Flores
That’s so interesting. Just so.. Weird man.. those moments when that happens are so surreal. I remember it all coming together..I just stop yelling at him and went to sit on the couch. Just so surreal
Aiden Barnes
any of you remember deja vu as a dream you didn't remember or is that just me?
Easton Stewart
Last night, I had a dream about a group of farmers with high-tech weapons who were in a battle with a huge T-Rex and the military at the same time (they seemed to be special ops dressed in black rather than combat soldiers). At first the T-Rex was helping the farmers, but after they defeated the military the farmers attacked the T-Rex. Really, really bizarre.
Colton Turner
Well like, aside from that though. Outside of the weed stuff and preaching and whatnot. Im fine with not smoking weed, but im looking for more in depth information than "god says" ya know?
Adrian Perez
I once had a nightmare where I was actually pooping in toilet.
Anthony Thompson
Time kind of stood still and the snapshot of what was in front of me matched the one in my mind from the dream, I wasnt even thinking about it until that instant when it all came back. Once that happened I stopped whatever conversation I was having and told my friends. I dont think they really understood how real or weird it was cuz we were like 11 so we were all like wow deja vu and kinda moved on.
Juan Allen
The only good way to the spiritual, is through Jesus. Don't seek anything other than Him!
That being said, I used to smoke weed from the age of 19 to 26, and those very rare moments when I had dreams, I would forget them immediately.
Now I dream almost every night, and I remember a lot of them. Weed destroyed my dreams.
I'm free from it now though, thanks to Jesus!
Alexander Morgan
>Different layout, furniture, cabinets, appliances, but 100% knew it was my kitchen
I get this a lot not just with places but also with people. It doesn't actually look like the person but somehow it's them. Not sure what I'd make of that.
Luis Sullivan
heresy
gtfo to /x/ with ur mental illness
Jack Green
I think many people today deny spirituality and it's being suppressed. It sounds like you just want amazing experiences but don't care about the cost. Those kind of people end up chasing after the occult and worshiping demons for power.
Michael Anderson
Take your meds OP.
Henry Butler
Ok, well im not convinced "Jesus" is the way. So please stop preaching him on a Taiwanese hill top rabbit herding forum.
Brody Nelson
That's fine, but I will never stop, I will talk about my Jesus to anyone who will listen
Have a nice day!
Chase Baker
Some strange things I have noticed. >recurring dreams with subtle changes >connected dreams, memory of what happened in other dreams >the best music I have ever heard has been in dreams, and my musical ability isn't that great >the best book I have ever read was in a dream >incredible cities that are not just a mashup of reality, completely new Of course, many of these things suggest that dreams are a manifestation of something beyond even your own brain's creative capacity. So what is going on? It's interesting, to say the least.
Connor Flores
Yeah man. I sometimes catch glimpses of alternative paths in the moment of a dejavu
Brayden Brooks
Nigger, im not going to worship a fucking demon. Im not afraid and im not tempted by shit, I am trying to better and balance myself. I am attempting to become more in touch with my spiritual and subconscious sides. Stop imposing your weaknesses on me, I know my motivations.
Logan Taylor
Dreams are the real reality, user. You should look into this more but be careful what you wish for, truth is stranger than fiction brother
Yes of course! Many people report an increase in dream recall by writing down the bits that your remember upon waking. You can also meditate as you lie down to sleep, and focus a clear, simple intent to achieve something specific in your dream state. Try going to bed with the intention to remember your dream upon waking, and then write down any details you can remember. Becoming more aware in your dreams will vastly improve your understanding of your subconscious mind over time, because the actions you take in your dream are non-intellectual for the most part, unless you become lucid.
Dreams are as real as your subjective experience during waking coinsciousness is.
Both are models of the world your brain constructs. Dream model is driven completely by memory and default mode activity, instead of awake model which is driven by both this and constant outside sensory input that steer behavior.
This is why 1. There indeed gan be continuity of dream worlds, just like there is continuity of thoughts when you wake up or are doing any other activity awake. So, especially when past dreams left an impression on you and you've ruminated over it after waking up, chances are there is a strong neuronal pattern that can be activated once again bringing you back tot his particular world (which might be permutated, but nonetheless bears much resemblance).
2. It's not neurons firing randomly. Neurons don't just 'fire' randomly. You build memories during sleep, you're just not aware of it in the same way you are aware of your subjective experience (unless you go lucid).
3. That's called hypnogagic state, where the brains entropy and criticality shifts from external to internal. That's why you have enhanced access to your inner world, start hallucinating and slowly fall asleep. Rather similar to psychedelic state.
Chase Allen
This is coming from someone who doubted Jesus was the way for spirituality. Your motivations are selfish and misguided. You do reap what you sow.
Set your heart free, user. Christ is the truth. You won't begin to learn until you learn to fear God.
Luke Williams
Stop smoking weed
Lucas Sanchez
Im not sure Jesus wasnt a re-telling of the Horus story. Im not sure if Jesus was gods son. Im not sure if Jesus was a man who had "christ consciousness", or what alchemists were really chasing when looking for the philosophers stone, the pureness of thought, clarity of mind, connection with the universe. Im not sure if Jesus was literally the next step in human evolution, a 46+2 with the power to heal, basically a demi god to us. I look at the bible and all religious books, I dont treat them as works of fiction, I treat them as allegorical. I have found too much deep information in them to discount them, but I dont think its always as literal as some people take it. Anyway I dont need to be preached to, im not uneducated, I am looking for true information from people who have actually looked in themselves.
Logan Wood
I'm pretty sure I realized I was dreaming a couple of times, resulting in almost total control of my innerspace and a feeling of euphoria during. I woke up well rested and happy.
Austin Roberts
Typical religious ideologue. Anyone who does it differently is doing it wrong. Attempting to balance your spiritual awareness is the farthest thing from selfish, and unlike you, OP is trying to do so without the "teachings" of your sky-daddy. Whether or not you realize it, the separation you see between you and Christ is non-existent, and the belief in separation is causing you to miss the point of this experiment.
Jacob Long
Last night my relationship with Adolph took a turn for the worse and he decided I was to be executed by him personally. I’m not lucid in my dreams but I have a great conscious awareness. I can still vividly remember him pulling the trigger and me dropping to the ground thinking if I felt ready to die yet. Not the first time I’ve died in my dreams but man it’s becoming worse because it seems more real every time it happens.
Kayden Hall
Fear is for the lost. Only by discarding fear can you be truly free. You will never be great if you live your life in accordance with fear.
Jeremiah Wilson
Once I dreamed one time that the ocean was in the sky, and nothing we thought was the way it is.
See I am not remembering ANYTHING at the moment, not even a little upon waking up. I would like to re-open that window to my subconscious mind so I can see where its at. For awhile I was taking my lack of dream recollection to mean my subconscious was peaceful, not having any dramatic problems it was wrestling with which came out. Now I am worried there are things there that I just might not be seeing because I have kind of shut that window.
Robert Foster
Maybe old Adolf is trying to tell you to focus on the present, and not the past.
Easton Taylor
try taking melatonin and/or zinc before you go to bed
Josiah Long
How many different versions of the truth are there?
Nathan Clark
fuck off Austria
Julian Ortiz
Don't worry, you'll awaken at the rate you're supposed to. I'm in a similar boat, but I recongize that unlearning and retraining take time. Don't force it, just keep it as a priority in your mind, absent of stress. There are actually more and more online resources for this type of thing each year, so it's a good time to be picking this up.
It was not, Zeitgeist has been debunked, all of the Horus crap came from New Age authors wanting to discredit Christianity. There are no actual academic sources used whatsoever in that movie.
I know Jesus is real, not only because of the Bible, but also because I have personally been filled with the Holy Spirit, and I've seen countless people healed in front of my eyes. I have prayed for strangers who have been healed. I've seen people get out of wheelchairs. I've seen people delivered from demons.
user, I tell you this because I love you, I've seen the power of God, it's so real, I'm not lying to you, it's the truth! God is so real, and so alive, what reason do I have to be lying to you my friend?
If you look in Youtube, you'll find plenty of testimonies. Sure that some might be fake, but that goes with everything, you'll learn to discern between the real and the fake, and the real outnumbers the fake by far.
"For the kingdom of God is not a matter of talk but of power." (1 Corinthians 4:20)
Here's a video of a Muslim girl who decided to follow Jesus getting baptized and delivered from demons: youtube.com/watch?v=h3dI8Cih_rE
Luis Morris
I find it fascinating how I can dream just 20 minutes in the real world, and it'll feel like....hours upon HOURS passed in the dream world
Furthermore, how some dreams feel 100% authentic, with no discernable difference.
What else....
Deja vu
Dreams where you physically FEEL what's happening.....And how your brain can replicate that feeling by itself
We probably won't understand dreams truly in my lifetime
Bentley Russell
This. Everything you experience is filtered through your brain first. Your whole reality is merely your brain's interpretation. Philosophically this means that dreams are just as "real" as your waking life.
Matthew Cox
>We probably won't understand dreams truly in my lifetime
I often wonder if understanding dreams requires understanding consciousness itself, or vice versa.
Nathan Foster
Just take psychedelics once, lie still for 3 hours with eyes closed and music and you will instantly see how brains are capable of constructing accurate dream worlds.
