Is there a job out there, that I don't have to apply for...

If you draw fetish art like diapers/inflation and your art skills are half-decent (as in better than deviantart autist mspaint garbage, the bar is unbelievably fucking low) you can seriously make triple digits off of commissions and make patreon money if you draw people's anime sparkledog OCs shitting themselves or turning into blueberries like in willy wonka
i'm unironically considering doing this myself

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Depending on where you live you could get involved with financial advisery. There's big cash in this shit, but you have to have a certain type of personality to fit in the profile.

They should just hire me if it's some easy sales job that even dumb niggers can do. I shouldn't be the one applying for a job that's literal slave-tier.
self-employment seems pretty neat but almost impossible in todays society
give it a try user, sounds lucrative

yeah but don't you need a degree for that and experience? also I'm not interested in finances and I have social anxiety so probably wouldn't be the best idea

Hooker if female. Nothing else really for men.

How the fuck are they supposed to know you want a job if you don't approach them?
Do you think they should just open up a phone book, check off all the people that already have jobs, aren't in school/college, older than 18 and pick a name at random?

Stop being a cuck and start your own business. The job market is fucked and you need to humiliate yourself just for a mcwagie

Nope. Massive corporations like OVB use a system of financial advisors, which they train themselves via courses and they spread through recommendations. It basically gets most of their advertisment budget. The advisor is just there to build trust, analyze the customer based on set series of questions, then feed all the data to OVB's internal software, which shows them the best possible deals on the market for every single financial product they might need. From insurance to mortgage. An acquaintance of mine offered me the job, I went through a part of their courses. They however require you to build your own customer base. Which means you have to go through your entire facebook friendlist and all other friends, fishing for some customers to reel in. It was wayy too fucking awkward for me to suddenly be required to talk to old highschool classmates and such and offer them my products. Not my cup of tea.

You're going to have to start your own bussiness if you want that. Or become an artist/freelancer or something like that.
Being a plumber or welder might be something you'd like.
Pays well and if you aren't working for someone else you can take or leave jobs as your financial situation allows.

... But as I said, once you're in and comfortable, this stuff just pours raw cash into your pocket and you're guaranteed to go only up in the system by the very partnership agreement you sign with them. If you feel like talking a bunch to all your friends, go for it. It's one of the most laid back and best paid jobs I've ever seen. You're literally your own boss 99% of the time.

I meant the applying process with interview and everything... I thought that was obvious but not for you apparently

>How do people find the motivation to go to degrading job interviews just to become slaves for 8hrs a day.
try not to be useless and a job interview becomes a showcase for the company to convince you to work for them. when your skills are in high demand and there are multiple companies ready to hire you at any moment, you can literally act like a diva at work

Whats stopping you from working as a tree man

lmao I think one of my old highschool friends tried to fish me for one of these things a couple years ago. I told him to fuck off, never talked to him again since.
If I fail at uni I'm gonna consider this. But don't you need money and connections to start a business?

two things:
1.gouverment and coorperations own the trees/ the land the trees stand on so I can't chop them down.
2. noone would buy them or only for extremly low prices

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>"Hello company man. I'd like a job."
>"What job?"
>"I don't want a fucking interview. I just want a job."
>"We need to know your experience, education, motivation and willingless to work with other people to determine what kind of job you're best suited for and if we can count on you being here for a few months or years."
>"FUCKING NORMIES I DON'T WANT AN INTERVIEW I WANT A JOB REEEEE!"

Not if you want a pleasant work experience.
I work in a field that requires a lot of specialised knowledge that not many people are interested in.
My boss doesn't really respect anything of what I say and if I go against him he gets very agressive. He has this problem with basically everyone though, even obviously highly experienced and valuable people that have worked for him loyally for years.
Good thing I have the option to fuck off in a few months.

Yup. His spot is exactly where I didn't want to end with my friends. Altough the service itself is not malicious. It's by no means any kind of scam, it just kinda feels a bit more forced on you than just regular advertisment, because you have to interact with the advisor directly. But you'll actually get the best deals.

It's all in this distrust from general population towards finances and such. Everyone feels that money is killing us all. .

Depending on where you live, berrypicking. If you're in aussieland you could probably get a detector and go looking for gold. Friend of mine did and he made quite a lot. Collecting and selling junk works too.

I didn't say it would be easy.
Freelance work is probably the best for you. But even that can be more work than it seems and you aren't as financially secure as in a normal job.
The naked truth is that unless you have inhereted, earned or won a lot of money, you'll have to work pretty hard for a large part of your life.
Even people who are very intelligent or have valuable skills still have to put in the hours. They are just more likely to retire earlier.
Sorry, user, but if you're lucky you might get a job that is fun or at least bareable to work at.

oh i wish i was pretty

You can buy a piece of land from the government or some random hillbillies. You'll probably need to take out a loan to do that though, since land costs a lot.
But if you manage to set up a succesfull bussiness you'll start earning money after several years of hard work.
After that you are set and the money will start flowing in. But the odds are that you'll go bankrupt before that happens.
So it's a high risk high reward type of deal.

What percentage of lumbermills' supply comes from one man self employed logging operations?

Clean malware out of and optimize old people's computers for 20 bucks an hour

>Just chopping wood in the forest all day
LEAVE THE TREES ALONE, YOU SON OF A BITCH

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Yeah I just looked up, You can get pretty decent land with forest for around 70k, but I have nothing close to that and won't be able to make enough profit to pay it back by just selling wood. Best thing would be if there was a big piece of land of which you could be self-sustainable. I wish I knew some like-minded people that would want to live in the forest with me.

Level headed. Many base products are on the same price level as they were 50 years ago. Decent quality timber sawed in the appropriate length (which will be so heavy they must be transported out with a forwarder) will be $100/m3 solid over bark with a very generous buyer. A rather big and straight fir/pine might total something like $2-300. Cutting something like that up manually will probably take an hour, especially if you need to roll the pieces manually with some sort of leverage. Meanwhile a harvester is going to finish off 50-70 trees in the same hour. Commissioning a machine like that costs about $300/hour, which means a landowner has the option of working their ass off in a not completely safe job or just sit here and shitpost while some machine is out there earning them $1-2k/hour. So that's why one don't see much manual logging these days, assuming one would've owned land anyway, which is a very long term investment for people who already have too much money.

you sound lazy as fuck and you would definetly hate being a lumberjack becside its hard physical and dangerous work and you just like the idea of it and not the reality

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How do i find i job working as IT in a office full of 20 something career women?

Greek brothel accountant

is there a job out there that isn't boring as shit, where i would want to go home every second i'm there?

no

that's why i quit my job and remain NEET. i do a bit of coding on the side to afford food and whatever

i worked 5 years straight, i never got a gf. so what's the point of slaving away if there's no real, tangible benefit? i'm so much happier now and i can lift weights and sleep as much as i want.

i don't like travelling or expensive shit, i buy food, car insurance, and gym membership ($10/mo) that's it. what's the problem?

My father regularly buys chopped wood from two guys that own a forrest. I'm not saying that they are rich or the norm, but they seem to make a living doing it.

Coding da way 2 be Once youre good you can make big money fast like

that's what I thought aswell. I have nothing to work towards. Everything would be much easier and fulfilling if I had a qt gf

Seems solid on paper, but working in a job with only young women isn't as fun as it sounds.

Can you make money out of coding without a title?

You can't love someone if you don't love yourself. If you can't be happy and motivated without a gf you most likely won't be happy with one.

>happy
i am happy now, because i quit my job. i was working 8hrs a day just to afford rent for an apartment. now i can do whatever i want all day, and i live with my parents so i'm not a slave

>motivated
i'm plenty motivated, i go to the gym almost every day. i'm not "motivated" to waste my youth slaving away to make some employer rich while making a landlord rich

fuck that

In my country 58% of the forest is privately owned, 17% govt companies and 25% private companies. The exact percentage that is self logged I dunno but I'm going to wager it's pretty high, many landowners also have their own machinery or they buy something over the period they're taking down an area and then sell it again. But there's also plenty who do it olden style with horses and sled and whatnot, while they don't deliver much of the total there's quite many of them and apparantely it's worthwhile. There are niches though, instead of selling to mills, selling firewood is pretty popular, anywhere you can refine the product even a little is going to earn you a lot more. Having ones own little sawmill and selling planks and stuff is going to be even more profitable, get a planer and other stuff, even more so.

Have your dad ever asked them if they pay their taxes, user?

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You just said you have nothing to work towards. Doesn't sound like you have a future or goal set out for yourself.
Going to the gym is fine, but unless you're a model you're not going to build a future with it.

They advertise their high quality hard wood publically out in the open where eveyone can see it.
So if the government isn't aware of it, it's really their own fault they didn't get their hands on those massive amounts of wood.

>You just said you have nothing to work towards.
no, i didn't. you're confusing "work" for "wageslaving"

i have improved health to work towards, i achieve this by eating healthy and exercising

>Doesn't sound like you have a future
are you saying i'm going to die very soon? if i'm alive in 1 year, that's the future.

>goal set out for yourself.
i do have goals. one example: 1 plate ohp, 2plate bench, 3plate squat, 4plate deadlift

>Going to the gym is fine, but unless you're a model you're not going to build a future with it.
what do you mean? it's going to keep me healthy, ensuring i don't die early, which means i'll have more of a future

imagine being so pathetic you derive your entire sense of worth via wagecuckery... you make no sense!

Got it. Here it's usually small scale and almost always paid under the table. Firewood has another perk as well in that one doesn't need to take down the finest trees for it, misshaped, split, cracked, snapped, generally broken, partially rotten, deadwood, insect attacked, it can all be sold as firewood at the same price.

Have you ever approached a woman or did you go full elliot rodger and expect one to ask you out?

>Have you ever approached a woman
sure, but when i was working it caused my health to go to complete shit. i have DSPS (normies have pathologized being a genetic night owl) so a 9-5 workday is actually going to cause me chronic sleep deprivation

also i'm a manlet, seriously balding (at 25) and a little chubby. i am working on getting lean, but it's going very slowly. i have terrible muscle building genes too, but that doesn't stop me from going to the gym nearly every day

>did you go full elliot rodger and expect one to ask you out?
honestly i was too depressed to do anything when i worked. i slept for most of the weekends too. i was a very miserable person, but now i'm not because i don't wageslave

the very unfortunate thing about my "career" (programming) is that virtually all the jobs want me to wake up early (when my body wants to sleep) and sit in an office all day. i'm trying to do freelancing but i barely get any hits, but it's more than enough for me to survive on since i don't have to pay rent

>are you saying I'm gonna die in 1 year
Not him, but cmon man don't act retarded. This isn't some semantics argument your having with your English teacher because you think it's funny to be technically correct. I know you're not THAT retarded and you know what he meant. A year from now, two years from now, imagine 10 years from now having the exact same everything. Thats what no future is. Living the same shitty NEET life for 50 years, with the one thing you change is what you watch on YouTube and the book you pretend to read

>I have any retarded combination of letters

The only thing you have user, is Big Gay

>imagine 10 years from now having the exact same everything

my parents own 2 houses. when they die, i will have a house to live in. i have a car. what's the problem?

the only main difference is i will have a healthier body than if i wageslaved

what "things" am i supposed to want, exactly? i wageslaved and the only thing i wanted was FREEDOM from that shit, and i finally got it.

>Living the same shitty NEET life for 50 years
my NEET life is infinitely more enjoyable than when i was wageslaving

i wanted to kill myself every day, now i don't. how is that a future, wanting to kill yourself every day because your job is destroying your health and happiness? not only by being utterly boring, but also causing chronic sleep deprivation

my life was 100x more "shitty" when i wageslaved

Its not about material possessions. Youre gonna get bored.
Cool, I can lift heavier objects now, I dont have to worry about shelter etc.
But what, youre just living day to day? Do you plan on doing anything impactful, do you plan on leaving a legacy?
What was the point of "living longer"? Just so you can experience NEETdom for a few more years?
Hell is real, and what makes it worse is when you realize we did it to outselves because we were too lazy.

For the brainlets, im not saying having a job will fix anything, but having actual ambitions will turn your life around

you don't want to work with women. they are always extremely incompetent and usually completely oblivious to it. she'll impede everyone's work either by messing everything up or constantly asking retarded questions and taking everyone's time. also, even a single woman with even a shred of power will equal to chaos, completely fucked up projects, hostile work environment, etc.