Do women even approach guys and ask them out or are men always supposed to?

you do need to be attractive or popular, the only thing you need is to be sociable. I can only talk with girls properly, I solid 6/10 and with no popularity, tho I got date today and she invited me. Just start talking with girls more, you can learn it how everything works with them. Good luck :^)

be glad that bitch was crazy

I messaged a guy on the pof app

>I was just having a drink by myself at a bar last week when a girl approached me. We ended up fucking at her place.
>tho I got date today and she invited me

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Why are you posting an ugly guy? It does help that I am good looking so that's why she came to talk to me in the first place but after it's all about being charismatic and confident.

>waste valuable vidya time in a slim hope she A:not only finds me attractive but is also B:daring enough to approach and not just signals and thinks me gay if I do not jump like a good doggie

Shit happens too rare to rely on.

Only relationship I've been in, the girl approached me, and basically drove the relationship and wore the pants. Rare I bet but it can happen.

That's Gigachad and there are girls photoshopping him in their pics
What I meant to say is, fuck off from r9k, successful normalfag

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Girls will do it when theyre thirsty enough.
When I was shopping new shoes with my normalfag sister she saw a hot guy and she asked him out.
Theyre in a relationship now and now shes fucking neglecting me. I hate both of 'em

>attention-cucked by a complete stranger
Hope you'll be careful around her next time and talk as few as possible

I thought shes joking but she was being serious

In my experience (Im prob way too old to be here) the more attractive a woman is, the less likely she is to do the asking. Guys should focus on getting over their fear of rejection and approach women they find attractive.

In grade 8 a girl came up to me while I was skipping class and giggled said I'm cute when I said some shit about hating school then she just sat down next to me and we started shooting the shit then she pretty much followed me for the next hour or so and ended up sucking me a bit and playing with my dick behind a church until some older kids walked by
Never got to nut with that girl. My mom was too much of a bitch and he was pissed off at me for telling everyone I fucked the shit out of her

I mean the girl who blew me was pissed off I bragged about fucking her and my mom was too much of a bitch for me bringing her over to be an option

Usually when girls ask me out it' not directly but just kind of starting a conversation with me and trying to be my friend. if a girl goes out of her way to be your friend then she wants your dick

How do you approach a woman without scaring her or making her uncomfortable?

Absolutely no girl would find that disgusting body attractive. Only gay men such as yourself would.

Imagine getting photo shop cucked by giga chad
Ouch

This.

As someone who is definitely a girl no one wants to fuck, I asked many guys out.

Make eye contact and smile. If she smiles back shes not totally disgusted but its not necessarily a total green light either. She may just be polite. Walk up and say hello. Make normal conversation, nothing sexual. If she seems comfortable and holds up her end of the conversation ask her if she might like to get together some time. Get her number and politely leave. Dont make it a long drawn out thing.

Women are more assertive than men in pursuing who they want. Some are blunt up front, some become frustrated when the guy doesn't respond to subtle yet clear invitations and challenge the man to do something. Simply because you have not experienced this doesn't mean they don't. We all do, even the apparent withdrawn, shy woman will let the man she desires know despite knowing she may be rejected.

never the girl you want tho

But what do I talk about? Unless something happens that I can turn into a talking point, I don't know how to randomly just do small talk with a stranger.

Start talking about the situation you're both in (for example, if you're both in class, about the lesson or the professor) and then diversify it.

Okay, thanks. I'll try it out sometime

I was asked out to watch star Wars with one, she was going to pay and all that.
Eventually she guilted me into going out with her to a bar.
Guess what? I got to see no star Wars after that. Something told me this was an actual date.

I was silly assuming otherwise and I just thought this was platonic. I played along because it's impolite not to. I didn't want to look like the bad guy at the time.

Some girls use the guilt thing but really using guilt is a guy tactic to get a girl to go out with them. I lost a boyfriend I loved because some guy was constantly pressuring me for a date and then he kept making me feel guilty for not going out with him. (I had agreed to go out with him before my boyfriend asked me out the first time but never went and he kept throwing that in my face) Of course I had a horrible time and felt guilty the whole night for doing this behind my boyfriends back and of course someone saw us out and told my boyfriend. My boyfriend broke up with me the next day.

the only thing i wanna do these days is play video games. that means i'm incompatible with everyone, even other female gamers.

oh well, there's nothing i or anyone can do. maybe i'll get bored one day, who knows.

>Do women even approach guys and ask them out or are men always supposed to?
>always
this is the problem with the spergs on Jow Forums. none of the shit you're wondering about is black and white, none of it works on immutable laws.

generally, no, women do not approach guys. the social convention is that men make the first move.

is this always the case? no. but generally it is.

>are men supposed to
supposed to? what the fuck does that mean.

again, there are things that are generally true, but there are no universal rules to this shit. it's not a recipe or something where you follow the steps and TA-DA now you have a gf

each encounter is unique, each person you deal with is unique, and YOU are unique.

the best general advice I can give you is to worry less about "approaching" and "asking out" and just try to build some meaningful platonic friendships with women. once those friendships become natural enough that you stop feeling like you need to turn to Jow Forums to decode the mysteries of women, then maybe you'll be ready to escalate a friendship into a romantic relationship.

but you're clearly not at that point yet.

>Usually a guy thing
Only if they were Futoshi-tier fedoras.
Anyone else is just not gonna care.

But this lady was gorgeous as all hell. Like, why the cosmic fuck would she trick me to go out with her like that?
When I was kinda forced to ask her out, she went 'sure!' so enthusiastically.
I just felt off. I feel like a potato, yet this cheesecake wanted me? The fuck?

>women
>assertive
You either are a woman or have never seen one.

All I can say is sometimes a guy becomes too stupid to fuck. Harsh I know but its like a switch. I can be so worked up about a guy, think of him constantly and tingly around him, get frustrated enough to offer myself and still he doesn't get it (and I'm not going to grab his groin even though I did do that with one guy and he got the message) and apathy sets in. Like fuck, he's stupid, I don't want him anymore.

Alright, I'll bite, a/s/l/why does no one like you?

You can get away with anything if you are Chad.

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>subtle yet clear invitations

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Woman so I know and all my friends are the same. We just do it differently, like only a few times have I just walked up to a guy I didn't know but that was at a club and wanted to dance but most of the time we do things like bake a guy something or give him some silly little gift or a card for his birthday but its a move nonetheless. If I get really frustrated a guy isn't gettin it then I get real sarcastic with him as a challenge and have even said something stupid like "if you snooze you lose" and was looking straight into his eyes. He got the message and asked me out. Or, I liked this one guy a lot but this other guy asked me out and I told him no because I was going on a date with the guy I liked. I freaked but my older sister knew the guy I liked and we made up a lie I told him no not wanting to hurt his feelings since I liked someone else. The guy I liked got the subtle message and I had a date with him the next weekend. He asked me, hehe.

should have a juxtaposed version with an omega to show the drastic difference

>Absolutely no girl would find that disgusting body attractive
How come he works as a model then?
instagram.com/berlin.1969/?hl=pl

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>be Chad
>woman 15 years older than me giving me these "moves"
>i don't respond to any of it, on purpose
>will have to tell her completely to fuck off or she won't get the message

women also think that guys will eventually crack if they keep trying, cuz wut guy duzint want pussy lol amirite?? teehee!!
nah, fuck that. some of us do have integrity.

as opposed to what? hey user do you want to have sex with me? now that would be insane even though that is exactly want I want.

I do something like give him some cookies I baked for his birthday. Crazy?

Kinda fat, don't care enough about make up and clothes to look cute despite being kinda fat.
I'm going at the gym and dieting, lost most of it now.

No that would be the "clear" part that you usually miss by a mile. What is so insane about admitting you want sex ffs?

Being honest some guys don't crack but most do but usually only for sex but then again that may be all I wanted in the first place or I am disappointed after and don't want him anymore.

First I would be too embarrassed to say that because he would think me a slut, clear enough?

>or I am disappointed after and don't want him anymore.
i don't even fuck with people if i think i'm not gonna want them anymore at some point.
i was never into human sampling.

Too bad, I like fat chicks. Oh well.

Welp, after I got rejected by literally every guy I asked out and no one asked me out in 23 years, I took a hint.
Sorry user. Maybe next life.

Male models are meant to attract men, not women. You just proved the point.

But how do you know that for certain? Aren't there things you really thought you wanted or wanted to do and then after you though it was a waste of time and disappointed? You had good intentions but it wasn't what you imagined.

Not every guy but but whatever.
I am hardly going to be your target of affection anyway, so why bother making you understand that "subtle" is roughly equal to "I hope that he can read my mind" with some guys.

>Aren't there things you really thought you wanted or wanted to do
honestly, no. i'm really simple and am content just being around women.

i think a lot of women's problem is that they are burnt out on people, you're bored of people due to over exposure.

I mean you'll get fat in your late 20s again, so I can wait.

I lost like 70 lbs. It was such a pain to lose it that I'd rather off myself than gain it back.

I lost 100+ 2 times so far, and lesser amounts in shorter bursts, gained it back every time after a few years of maintaining. Statistics say it's inevitable.

Why would you off yourself because of something that stupid?

>Why would you off yourself because of something that stupid?
Because I hate the way I look and the way I live when I'm fat.
It took a lot of work to stop eating as a way to cope with "bad days" and I really don't want to be like that anymore. If I get back at being like that, I feel like all the work I've done to change myself was pointless.

Yeah they do all the time, just not unattractive guys

Life is pointless. Why not work on learning to love yourself for something that actually matters?

>Why not work on learning to love yourself for something that actually matters?
It's not the fat itself, or even the way I look. It's the reason why I got fat and why I over eat, the fact that I eat too much when I'm upset or stressed, the fact that I can't cope with anything without eating 2 bars of chocolate and crying. It's not healthy, it's not the person I want to be, I've been trying so hard to not be like that.
Being in good shape and taking care of my body is the exterior sign of a lot of work I've been doing on myself as a person. I wouldn't be bothered to lose the way I look, it'd kill me to lose the work I've been doing on myself. That part matters to me.

*tink tink tink*
AHEM

FUCK FATTIES AND FUCK FAST FOOD

Thank you

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>It's the reason why I got fat and why I over eat, the fact that I eat too much when I'm upset or stressed, the fact that I can't cope with anything without eating 2 bars of chocolate and crying.
That just sounds adorable to me and I want to hug you and make things right for you, but I guess starving yourself for Chad is ultimately a better option.

Do you honestly think I'm trying to change the way I act to be more attractive to hot dudes, and not because it's an immensely unhealthy way to act which ruined my life?

if youre decently attractive and go out often to bars and clubs and parties you will occasionally get girls coming up to you yea

I've never been asked out, but had multiple girls approach me. Though every girl I've dated had approached me and aggressively pursued a relationship, I've had 5 relationships. After we've dated for months they've pretty much all said "you know you never asked me to be your gf" so I would ask them, so I guess girls really never ask guys out.

>Do women even approach guys and ask them out or are men always supposed to?
I lost my virginity after a girl approached me and asked for my number in high school.

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Yeah, otherwise you'd be married to a non-hot guy and lead a perfectly happy life already, like the other 70% of overweight women in the western world.

No guy (attractive or not) ever hit on me before I lost weight.
No guy ever said yes when I asked them out.

>burnt out on people
I wouldn't go that far nor agree with your reason. I am and my friends are frightened more than anything. Frightened the guy is really a bad guy no matter the outer wrapping and will attack at some point. I do concede a lot of this fear could be because attacks aren't more common now but we all hear about them. Like, I won't jog anymore without being in a group, afraid a guy will grab me, rape me and beat me to death.

careful user you can be falsely accuse of rape by the aggressor and initiator.

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There was one guy I liked that asked me to a dance but took off sniffing around some really cute girl and got mad at me I laughed when she wouldn't talk to him. I was the one wronged not him and it hurt my feelings he left me alone. So I lost some weight, got new clothes and changed my hair a bit and had all kinds of guys come after me. It was the same me so I didn't go with any of them but I did get what I wanted. The guy I liked started being real sweet and apologized for what he did before and I played along and went to a party with him and intimated sex might happen but this time I picked out the hottest guy there and madeout with him. FELT GOOD!

Women might approach to flirt if you are confident & in shape, but it is the man's job to ask them out.

hmmmmmmm

>originally so

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I had women "approaching" me, in terms of they laugh nervously, always sit near you and play with their hair.

That's the best case scenario and they do it mostly if you both are in a social setting like being in the same lecture for one or two months. You recognize that even then they don't ask you out, but they make it more than clear that she is a danger free zone.
But in a bar or a club or being a complete random student from another subject in the same uni? No, doesn't happen, the man must do the work.

My second last girlfriend hit on me hard first time we met. She was mad cute but had a missing hand and was mad bipolar and sjw.

Was a messy relationship at the end but was happy and good for a year.

It helps to have stuff going on in your life. Hobbies, interests, something. People seem to ask what you like doing or what you have planned for the weekend, whatever. If you have nothing going on you have nothing to say really. Developing a life outside of work or school will give you stuff to talk about and potentially stuff in common with her. Also may put you in a position where youre in a group of people with something in common and something to talk about.

>hobbies
>interests
Normie meme bullshit unless you have normie hobbies and interests or are good looking.

Ok. Go talk to some girl about sitting in your room all day and see what happens.
>Hey user what do you do?
>...

Yes, I'll talk to them about my love of movies, which they don't care about. I'll talk to them about my interest in A/V, which they don't care about. I'll talk to them about my love of the triple option, which they don't care about. Sorry, but unless you have normie hobbies & interests (drinking, drugs, partying, social media, etc.) or are good looking enough that your looks offsets your non-normie hobbies & interests, it's fucking pointless.

How do i talk to some random chick about my hobbies? I don't think walking up to a stranger and proceeding to talk about what you do in your free time is appreciated.

I dont care who you are or what you like, there are women who are into the same stuff, you just have to take the time and make the effort to find them.

Start a conversation about something you both have in common. If youre in school, talk about that. If youre in work, talk about that. Anything just to get the conversation started, then go from there.

Yes, randomly talk to thousands upon thousands of women who all have 50-100+ guys on their phones that are far better looking than you. You're a delusional normie if you think women give two shits about hobbies. They care about looks, money, height, and dick size. Everything after that are used as tiebreakers. Don't have those 4, you're fucked.

>there are women who are into the same stuff
Yeah and they don't give a shit that you're into it either.

Literally this, i've got the biggest crush on a girl, we have a lot of stuff in common but i'm just not "her type". Make good money, pretty /f/it , but ugly and balding. Sometimes you just lose the hand your dealt.

You should be talking to thousands of women. (figuratively) If she has a hundred guys on her phone, talk to someone else. The point about hobbies and interests is that if youre someone who has a hard time making conversation, it gives you something to talk about and if she asks what you like to do for fun, youre not standing there stuttering and staring at your shoes because you cant say "I dont do anything" without sounding like a retard.
Shitty women are shallow and superficial. You dont know if they are or not until you talk to them. If they are, move on.
Average guys have been getting laid and making babies since we were living in caves. Stop feeling sorry for yourself and talk to people.

ALL women have dozens or hundreds of guys at their literal fingertips either on dating apps or social media. A horde of guys who all want to get with her for one reason or another, all of which have a very high chance of being better looking than me. Everyone has hobbies and interests, but girls simply don't give a shit unless you're also good looking and then they can't really give two shits what you're into anyway.

>Shitty women are shallow and superficial
So basically all women

>Average guys have been getting laid and making babies since we were living in caves
False equivalency. To even compare how it was 20 years ago to today in terms of dating is retarded. It used to be your dating pool was who you went to school with, who was at your job, or lived near you. So yes, average guys and even below average guys could get a woman. Back further women cared more about security since they couldn't work and needed any man that could provide. No longer like that in any sense. Now they can get any guy within their search radius, can screen guys instantly, compare them instantly, and now longer need one for security.

Stop the normie bullshit or are you some retard that likes getting destroyed?

The hottest bang of my life was female initiated.

Ok, stay in your room jerking off and whining about how shitty women are (who you never talk to). Dont make any effort whatsoever.

>You should be talking to thousands of women. (figuratively) If she has a hundred guys on her phone, talk to someone else.
Everyone has a hundred guys on their phone if they have a phone.

Not an argument. Try refuting what I said or just admit you have no clue how things work as you're a normie.

Maybe you should work on your personality so you could have something interesting to offer for a girl

Men are supposed to. Some women do approach guys out but it's not common.