Saw this picture yesterday (and I think it's still on Jow Forums) and I wonder if we're the last losers/rejects? I mean sure, there will always been losers somewhere but I don't think they'll ever be as numerous and cohesive enough to form groups that the old rejects did. I mean, I look at incels and other offshoots like that and even they in their own unique and bizarre way are part of a group. I won't be surprised in there's an incel-con somewhere down the line.
I've already seen this image too OP. I wonder where it's from and when it was posted. I fainted the other day and I think I lost some memories so things are all hazy and I believe I've seen this image some time ago but I'm not completely sure. I have an incredible recognition memory because I literally recognize every single image I've ever seen on the internet but I think I lost some memories. They come back with time though, right?
>I've already seen this image too OP. I wonder where it's from and when it was posted No idea, but it's clearly from these times with the social media filter on the left photo.
>I fainted the other day and I think I lost some memories so things are all hazy a) Go to the doctor. b) Aren't you the early 20-something kid? Leave Jow Forums and do something fun with other people.
Mason Wilson
>b) Aren't you the early 20-something kid? Leave Jow Forums and do something fun with other people. I've got no friends, bucko.
>I've got no friends, bucko. SO? You are young, you don't want to get to 30 and realize that you wasted the time given to you. Find something constructive and sociable.
Adrian Ross
>just go out and make friends and be happy XD It's not that easy. Do you even know where we are? It's r9k.
Is this some new girl you are obsessed about, Kierkegaard or should I say Ricebot? What about Rianne van Rompaey? What about Dominique Swain from Lolita? Have you forgotten about them? Tell me how is it possible to stop obsessing over someone.
Andrew Bennett
You're under 30, get out.
Aiden Edwards
Real losers will always exist, we just don't fit into any group and never did, the outcasts among the sub-subculture.
Gavin Myers
You will hate yourself years down the line for letting dumb posts like this one you're making get in the way of your life.
Everything is available to you right now don't waste it.
Sure, there's a small amount of permanently broken people but >a lot of broken people used their fandoms/communities/groups to fix themselves. I think vast, vast majority of people given the right support, AT THE RIGHT AGE, would be doing well in their lives.
Jeremiah Peterson
>Is this some new girl you are obsessed about, Kierkegaard? No, it's just some random image on my drive lol
>What about Rianne van Rompaey? I'm still obsessed with that MILF. I still gather images of her, but why's she getting so old so quick?
>Tell me how is it possible to stop obsessing over someone. You could try reading Ovid's the Remedies for Love
>You will hate yourself years down the line for letting dumb posts like this one you're making get in the way of your life. >Everything is available to you right now don't waste it. Yeah I know. You're exactly right. I should start living but I just don't know how to start.
>I should start living but I just don't know how to start. Go to a mtg pre-release event or fighting game tourney or something along those lines, something dosed with tism and people.
Andrew Cooper
Anyone else 35?
Ryan Turner
I agree this is the last group of individual lone outcasts. The last among them came from class of 05 in flyover country, the Midwest, or the rural South, class of 03 on the coasts like NY or CA, class of 04 in the rest of the country in states like Arizona. I don't know why all the outcasts in class of 06 and later seem different. I can't put my finger on it.
Noah Long
These threads are always slow and die so quickly. I'll say whatever.
What age would you say the average robot now "grows up"? The point at which they somewhat accept responsibility for their situation, and it's not in fact literally everybody else's fault?
When I was about 16,17 I came here, green, main social interaction was with those chat boxes on anime sites and my classmates on myspace. I thought the posters here were so smart, they'd post graphs and use big words and I'd be convinced. I was already self-pitying because I couldn't find anyone relateable, and looked down on other people for not being as intelligent and "worldly", lol.
Anyway, that stopped at around 22 when I realised that people were smart in different ways, and to be honest I was a dipshit and had a lot of growing to do. I think robots here have a few factors holding them back; They don't have real-life social skills, so I think they have lower emotional intelligence so are slower to develop. They essentially spend their entire day on a social site, they forget that that's what Jow Forums is, rotting their brain. They don't even have to think. Their mindset is reinforced by this stuff being repeated over and over. I've seen some posts that aren't even cohesive. They're just filled with buzzwords and it's pretty sad to see them wasting their youth here but if you say something like "go outside" to escape this echo chamber, of course they never will.
And it's like, you've fucking been where they are, and you KNOW. Would I have listened? I guess not.
Jacob Roberts
>I can't put my finger on it. The ones just before them had dedication, the ones after had dedication and the facilities provided for them by the ones before and developed like normal people.
God no, I'm gonna ride 30 out and top my self at 31. I was dry heaving all night at my shit wageslave job just over the thoughts of my life being a complete nothing.
Ryder Baker
>What age would you say the average robot now "grows up"? The point at which they somewhat accept responsibility for their situation, and it's not in fact literally everybody else's fault? Somewhere around 20.
>And it's like, you've fucking been where they are, and you KNOW. Would I have listened? I guess not. Yeah but they have FAR more opportunities (in social terms) available to them. It doesn't matter how weird or tism'ed they are, as long as they have dedication (and the plasticity of your teens and 20s) they'll be fine. They have to be actively working against their own interests to fuck up.
Joseph Ward
Why didn't the 80s born outcasts turn out normal? Bullying and social expectations for jobs crippled the 80s born in a way that it didn't for people born earlier and later. These are the only long term NEETs without regret on average whereas the 25 year old NEET is suicidal and wants to change. Why the big difference in outlook and attitude?
Colton Butler
>I don't think they'll ever be as numerous and cohesive enough to form groups that the old rejects did.
Our population has shot up like crazy and we have the internet nowadays though.
Jeremiah Reyes
There are people here who could make 40+ threads, dude.
Bentley Murphy
>25 year old NEET is suicidal and wants to change I don't really have sympathy for ones born after '91. I think those born after '91 got to ride the wave of "geek is cool".
But to answer the rest of your question, the 80s born outcasts did grow up "normal" in the sense that their fandoms provided them with a sense of belonging and identity regardless of how much they were ridiculed by the mainstream.
If you mean US though, the 80s born outcasts who didn't have access to a fandom (and foolishly didn't realise the "realness" of the internet), well, if you don't learn social skills to interact with other people and it's not that much of a wonder on why we're fucked.
Economics and job opportunities and such are a completely different topic and a little beyond the scope of this thread (lest it draws the ire of Jow Forums and incels). Though I'll say one thing, everything these days requires collaboration since problems have become more and more complex, so that the days of the lone autist working on a solution are long gone.
Jow Forums has always been a little younger than it's contemporaries and I don't think it would be more than 3 anons and a bunch of LARPers.
Dominic Cook
This is a (new era) phase for most of these "rejects".
Tyler Hall
Don't die thread, 2018 isn't over just yet.
Jordan Lee
Wouldn't being a loser without a group of others to belong to make one even more of a reject?
>I won't be surprised in there's an incel-con somewhere down the line. Being an incel isn't something people celebrate, not like being a furry or reading comics or using linux or whatever.
Alexander Ward
>Wouldn't being a loser without a group of others to belong to make one even more of a reject? There will always be a few rejects, they'll just never be as numerous again.
>Being an incel isn't something people celebrate Nothing surprises me anymore and it shouldn't surprise you something like an incel con actually happens down the line.
Zachary Nguyen
>I don't really have sympathy for ones born after '91. I think those born after '91 got to ride the wave of "geek is cool".
OK being born in '91 I don't have your 80s viewpoint, but I disagree. People who had actually geeky interests weren't (even closely) held in the same esteem as normal people. And I know I didn't find anyone even close to being "my people" until late university. Being geeky was popularised in media and then actual well adjusted, already accepted people would allow themselves to show specific interests that they otherwise wouldn't brag about to be considered geeky. Like an interest in cooking, or uh, 90s cartoons.
I think it's a good thing overall, but geeky people were never cool, even when being geeky was cool.
Except now, actually. Maybe things have progressed that far.
Evan Cruz
turns out it's not your interests or fetishes or insecurities that prevent you from sleeping with women
it's your horrible attitudes and lack of job
William Jones
I dunno, like, 14?
Josiah Sanchez
how is this not funny? lol 40 year old boomer
Evan Ward
>it's your horrible attitudes I know it's going sound unconvincing here on Jow Forums, I was never a horrible person (to my knowledge), I was pretty shy and introverted and where I grew up was a very rough area and the school was a gigantic shithole mostly full of gang members and wannabe gang members. I spent most of my time alone at school and home. There was nothing like an anime club, or even a chess club where I was.
>I think it's a good thing overall Sure, but what happens to those of us left behind? Cos my interest in that world is dead but I have nothing to replace it with.
Thomas Butler
yes the one honest lonely nerd compared to the hundreds of bitter incels who had oneitis and never ever fucking got over it
Luke Davis
Not sure what you're trying to say but I'm mostly sure those incels are a) mostly under 25 let alone 30 and b) will eventually grow out of it.
I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do now that the entire playing field has been completely levelled. These days, when I'm not at work, I just a train trip to some town and just people watch.
Thomas Miller
Dude fucking SAME. I grew up in a small town and felt very very alone.
So much time later I've grown to not discredit them. This place has the community vibe of a village, but also a few facilities (no chess, anime, book clubs or anything though, I mean a football field and shops). But it's really that environment of...you have to be one of them to be content here. I feel like I started off with poor social skills and it just kind of snowballed because this place thrives on connections between people. There were a lot of power plays and stuff and I was nervous if anybody asked me a question because I was so sure that it was loaded in some way. In hindsight I have no idea what they thought of me. If life now tells me anything, it's that I've been erased from their memory by now.
Now back here 2 months before I go to Switzerland to work. This town is really not for me, even with fresh eyes. For the most part this country isn't either, and it's really sad because I spent such a long time here that a part of it should be dear to my heart. But the attitude just isn't compatible. The kind of attitude that my parents have had, that my brother is growing and that is currently swallowing up my 2 friends here. Just small, narrow minded goals and gossiping.
That aside, just DO IT, whatever "It" is for you. You'll regret the things you haven't done far more than most of what you did.
Isaiah King
I've missed on everything. But the best advice I can give you as a wizard is do want YOU want to do, "cos someone somewhere is always going to be disappointed in you, just make sure it isn't you 10 years down the line". And find like-minded people.
>you have to be one of them to be content here Perfectly captured my sentiments of the place I grew up in. What's aggravating though is that if I had lived in the adjacent boroughs where crime rates were the same (or higher) I would have more than likely found better people to become friends with.
Wyatt Allen
There are lots of things before you hit 30 like travel
Iv been to America once and that was to Florida been to France numerous times Spain once
Would love to goto japan and visit the Nordic countries
And how about Falling in love
I have no idea what that is like so dont ask me
My one regret not going into the services When i had the chance
I'll be 36 soon i want settle down have a few kids so much to do
I think at 22-23 I realized that getting drunk all the time and trying to be cool and make (fake) friends was gigantic waste of time and all that time I should have been studying and trying to advance my career and hone my craft Still feels like I figured it out too late
Christopher Bell
Fucking make sure you have a career that puts a roof over your head and grants you some autonomy and not a series of jobs Once you reach a certain point if youre still a grunt taking orders youll be one forever
Jace Gomez
>36 >But at this rate i mite do a hero before 40
Maybe I'm trying to make this a "me" problem but like at 36 in your entire 20s fandoms were still mostly insular things right?
Jace Phillips
Some what but when you turn on the tv or radio and hear that one of your heros has just died or you flick through kerang magazine and see the clown from slipknot say he's gonna be 50 soon It kinda put a new perspective on somethings
Sure but I meant that the fandoms were still a place for oddballs and weirdos at that point right? As you could've utilised them?
Kayden Adams
Yes but it was very different back then we didn't have things like the internet back then and most of the fandoms were populated by 10 year olds not mentally stunted 20 year olds
And during my 20s i was working a dead end job averaging 50+ hours a week
Aaron Gomez
Go to college and take something practical. I'll be 30 in Spring and a junior at university going for a new degree. It's fucking exhausting. If you aren't filthy rich or have enough issues for NEETbux, at least find a job that pays well.
Camden Young
>And during my 20s i was working a dead end job averaging 50+ hours a week Oh fuck, that's what happened to my 20s.
I sometimes wonder in my wageslave job if it would less miserable being alive if I got a giant windfall of money?
Nathan Robinson
I'm a 30 y/o NEET who plays vidya all day. Life is kinda comfy.
Matthew Campbell
>Life is kinda comfy. >kinda
Seems like you have reservations about it. I have more games than I play at 30 and doesn't really bring me any joy anymore.
Josiah Powell
All whites getting swept away by the black cock wave
Yeah, I'm just in denial about how miserable I really am. Gonna kill myself probably after Christmas
Adam Hill
Me too, man. There's no future for us. It's best to just get it over with.
Nolan Lopez
>the 80s born outcasts did grow up "normal" in the sense that their fandoms provided them with a sense of belonging and identity regardless of how much they were ridiculed by the mainstream. No we fucking didn't. The "fandoms" were always filled with cringy normalfag retards. An ugly normalfag is still a normalfag.
Anthony Smith
That was quick, I thought you were gonna drag it out for a little.
>cringy Like literally all of us were/are cringy and probably obsessive with our interests. How old are you?
Justin Long
Drag out what?
Anthony Thompson
>Like literally all of us were/are cringy and probably obsessive with our interests. How old are you? >80s born Can you read moron?
Kevin Gomez
I think you're role-playing, that's why I asked. I mean, what non-deluded 30+ loser would claim people in fandoms were "cringy" and have no self-awareness?
The "life is comfy" thing. Mind giving your life story up to this point?
Camden Sanders
Life is very comfy.
Dylan Miller
>this shit is in the navy and people still ask why i cant stand my own branch
I always thought she was made really uncomfortable by the girl taking the picture in this video. Like she was getting creeped out lesbian vibes from her.
Zachary Hernandez
r9k could do with some IDs.
Ian Jones
>what non-deluded 30+ loser would claim people in fandoms were "cringy" and have no self-awareness? Have you ever actually seen these people? We used to make fun of them on SomethingAwful and similar forums, cosplayers, furries, animetards, and so on, because they were exactly what I already said - autistic normalfags. No sane person wanted to do anything with "fandoms" of any kind.
Kevin Taylor
Are you a loser? Is that what you consider yourself?
Nolan Adams
>Have you ever actually seen these people? No, you misunderstood me, I'm saying what person would make these claims and have no self-awareness of their *own* cringy-ness? I'm well-aware of their cringy-ness, I'm talking about *you*.
>because they were exactly what I already said - autistic normalfags. What exactly is a normalfag to you? Like maybe you've ascended unto Godhood or something but I'm not above any of these people. I mean, sure SA and Fark and all those other websites did laugh at them but a) I'm sure many goons were part of a fandom and b) those fandoms have persevered into almost mainstream, if not completely mainstream.
If that's not what I am, then tell me. I'm a newly designated wizard, with a dead-end job and not much else.
Lucas Bailey
Did you ever have any aspirations to "win" by normal people standards?
Brayden Barnes
>those fandoms have persevered into almost mainstream, if not completely mainstream. Yes, they have been absorbed by the globalist monoculture, just like everything else. What does that have to do with anything?
Justin Carter
I guess so, I mean, I didn't have anybody else to compare with. My school/area didn't have anything remotely "alt/scene" or anything like that. I was a smart kid, gifted and talented, but I guess the pressures of being bullied and alone got to me and I never amounted to anything in the end. I did get into a red-brick uni but that also amounted to zero.
>Yes, they have been absorbed by the globalist monoculture, just like everything else. What does that have to do with anything? What? What does *that* have to do with anything? If you want to talk about how everything can be assimilated by the corps, that's a completely different conversation. My point is that they remained steadfast in their fandoms and it paid off, and those that want to follow in those cringy fandoms can do so without being ostracised.
And as someone said: >a lot of broken people used their fandoms/communities/groups to fix themselves. Those fandoms can be used for social growth.
Robert Kelly
I think you're just idealizing the fandoms you were never a part of dude.
Justin Hernandez
The simple state of being comfortable in your own skin makes you a normie and not a robot no matter what you think. Similarly, anyone who seems normal but is actually really uncomfortable with themselves is actually a robot who doesn't realize it.
Andrew Thompson
Who the fuck was talking about being a robot you piece of fucking shit normalfag who came here in 2012?
Jordan Diaz
Like, even if I am idealising it, what would I have lost if I had the chance to join one when I was younger (or if I'd been born 5 years later)?
I'm barely hovering above zero.
Josiah Bell
28 and a virign and my life is ridiculous parent's are in their late 60's and broke as fuck i worked for years as a cook but couldnt save any money now my car is broken down and i can barely get to college and i live miles out in the country. Please tell me what am I supposed to do with no job and no money and no car????
Grayson Evans
I don't know man, you passed the magic 25 mark that these threads used to have. Even though these threads are 30+, 25 is kind of the point of no return.
Blake Price
make me lmao. no but really make me
Anthony Cooper
>no but really make me What exactly are you doing in life right now? Hell, what are you doing besides Jow Forums right this moment?
Parker Butler
I'm 35.
>no money >no real career >barely going to transfer to a university next year as long as I don't fail classes
I guess I got some good things going though. My gf loves me and would take a bullet for me for example. I have loving family and friends too. Yeah, shit could be a lot worse.
Oh come on now, you're just kicking people when they're down.
Landon Morgan
His just larping. If he was 35 with a loving family and girlfriend than he wouldn't be here.
Sebastian Smith
I went to a gathering of friends, the first one I've been to in 10 years. Seeing couples made me sad, I thought I'd moved past this but I've been a bit depressed ever since. Why can't I just forget other people and do my own thing? I'm autistic and don't have good enough social skills to even bother.
Jack Nelson
I hate every single aspect of my life. There is zero chance of things getting better on this trajectory. Kind of want to just quit my job and spend what little money I have traveling, then maybe just be a homeless person until I kill myself.
>I went to a gathering of friends, the first one I've been to in 10 years. What made you decide to go to one?
Logan Murphy
My longest friend is a guy I had a secret crush on since high school. That guy is married and is about to have a kid.
Lincoln Barnes
I dunno, I just got bored I guess. Life was starting to feel a bit too meaningless so I thought I'd accept the invite and go try to not embarrass myself too badly.
Isaac Rivera
Gaaaaay. But yeah, my peers (I'm reluctant to call them friends) have started having kids now.
How was it?
Michael Smith
>Kind of want to just quit my job and spend what little money I have traveling I've had (wageslave) job interviews in different towns cos for some reason their head offices are located outside of my city.
I enjoyed it, despite the pang of regret that sits in my soul, people watching and sight-seeing after the job interviews gave me a sense of relief.
Connor James
I hate life but im glad i got bach degree in IT. Would unironically kill myself doing most other jobs at this point cant imagine working retail
Dominic Martinez
It was ok, but I can't help but feel that I'm oppressing women with my presence. I still have trouble keeping conversations going and looking at people when I talk to them. I just wasn't made for social interaction. I'm crying right now for the first time in years. Ahh ok I'm good now.
Jonathan Bell
>have started having kids now.
That the problem being in your 30's. Your the weird one because you don't gave kids. Also it's not gay.
Isaiah Hill
that's not true. i had 2 girlfriends over the summer and got my dick sucked by both in one day. stop believeing memes
Aaron Nguyen
>cant imagine working retail My supervisor is a man who at lunchtime was offered a slice of pizza (with large pepperoni slices) and asked if it was vegetarian. The guy offering said it was a meat BBQ supreme. My supervisor ate it. The following day, he realized he ate a meat pizza.
My supervisor is a man who when asked by a customer where the ice was, his reply was "fresh or frozen?".
Everyday at work I wish for death.
Jaxon Cook
>I just wasn't made for social interaction. I guess saying practice is a little too late. This is where I feel a being part of a fandom (back then) would have been beneficial. You probably wouldn't have felt so self-conscious.
Even if they were actually old people, they clearly come from a different pool of people.
Andrew Foster
This is just gross. Can't believe I share a site with those people.
Easton Ross
Your family are a burden aren't they? You done with life but you kill yourself and you'll put them through hell.
Daniel Wright
They actually dis have a meet up of incels , somebody posted a pic of it on r/braincels . As you would expect it was a bunch of white manlets and one of them looked like the Charleston church shooter .
Christopher Garcia
>I sometimes wonder in my wageslave job if it would less miserable being alive if I got a giant windfall of money? I don't even want anything astronomical, just enough so I can put a little in savings and occasionally having the ability to do something nice for myself. Instead I'm barely treading my head above water.
>tfw this took forever to reply to because I'm at my shit wal-job